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Old April 7th 07, 10:21 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine,uk.people.health
john
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http://www.whale.to/a/graphs.html


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Old April 8th 07, 02:59 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine,uk.people.health
Jeff
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They show that the health of people were improving, but that the vaccines
prevented deaths.

Nothing new here.

Of course, they are highly selected to make it seem like the vaccines didn't
have any effect. Nothing new here, either.


Jeff

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Old April 8th 07, 11:05 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine,uk.people.health
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"Jeff" wrote in message
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They show that the health of people were improving, but that the vaccines
prevented deaths.

Nothing new here.

Of course, they are highly selected to make it seem like the vaccines
didn't have any effect. Nothing new here, either.


You liars should know. You start your graphs just before vaccination
started.


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Old April 8th 07, 03:18 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine,uk.people.health
Jeff
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"JOHN" wrote in message
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"Jeff" wrote in message
news:g0YRh.583$V15.459@trnddc02...

They show that the health of people were improving, but that the vaccines
prevented deaths.

Nothing new here.

Of course, they are highly selected to make it seem like the vaccines
didn't have any effect. Nothing new here, either.


You liars should know. You start your graphs just before vaccination
started.


Why don't you show us where, John?

And why don't you show us graphs that show the incidence of disease, not
just the deaths? Vaccines not only prevent deaths, but they prevent the
incidence of disease and the problems resulting from the illnesses, like
meningitis and deafness.

Jeff

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Old April 8th 07, 03:55 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine,uk.people.health
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"Jeff" wrote in message
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Why don't you show us where, John?


here is one of your graphs on incidence
http://www.quackwatch.com/03HealthPr...mu/immu01.html

incidence is one you can fiddle as allopaths keep the stats on that, if
anyone

death stats are compulsory, and kept by gov, so you can't fiddle them so
easy


And why don't you show us graphs that show the incidence of disease, not
just the deaths? Vaccines not only prevent deaths, but they prevent the
incidence of disease and the problems resulting from the illnesses, like
meningitis and deafness.

Jeff


incidence is meaningless, as you liars know which is why you go on about it,
hoping we ignore death stats

morbidity is tied to mortality


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Old April 8th 07, 04:32 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine,uk.people.health
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"JOHN" wrote in message
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"Jeff" wrote in message
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Why don't you show us where, John?


here is one of your graphs on incidence
http://www.quackwatch.com/03HealthPr...mu/immu01.html

incidence is one you can fiddle as allopaths keep the stats on that, if
anyone


You confuse me, John. What difference does it make? You use the graph on the
stats on death made by allopaths? Are you suggesting that the stats that
allopaths keep on incidence are bad, but the ones they keep on deaths are
good?

death stats are compulsory, and kept by gov, so you can't fiddle them so
easy


Gee, John, get a clue, if you can.

Who fills of the death certificates? Mostly allopaths.

And why don't you show us graphs that show the incidence of disease, not
just the deaths? Vaccines not only prevent deaths, but they prevent the
incidence of disease and the problems resulting from the illnesses, like
meningitis and deafness.

Jeff


incidence is meaningless, as you liars know which is why you go on about
it, hoping we ignore death stats


Tell that to the parent who has to miss work for a week, and the income from
work, so that she can take care of her sick kid. Tell that to the parents of
kids who are left brain-injured or deaf from measles. Tell that to parents
who have to take their kid to the hospital because he won't drink because of
the chicken-pox lesions in his throat.

Like it or not, allopaths not only want to prevent death, but allopaths want
to prevent all disease as well as the problems that result from having
disease, like brain damage and deafness.

morbidity is tied to mortality


Yeah, and with better treatments, as well as better general health thanks to
better sanitation and better quality food available, there is far less
mortality. But, without vaccines, thousands of kids would still die from
vaccine-preventable illnesses each year, like measles, rubella (from
congenital rubella), and chicken pox.

How many people died from smallpox last year? Zero, thanks to vaccines. And
please don't suggest that this is because of better nutrition and health and
sanitation. There are many areas of the world where there is poor sanitation
(i.e., they poop in the streem or on the ground), poor nutrition and poor
health. Yet, there is no smallpox, thanks to vaccines.

Jeff

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Old April 8th 07, 09:17 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine,uk.people.health
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"Jeff" wrote in message
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Like it or not, allopaths not only want to prevent death, but allopaths
want to prevent all disease as well as the problems that result from
having disease, like brain damage and deafness.


reality check: allopaths are the leading cause of death
http://www.whale.to/a/dean.html


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Old April 8th 07, 11:36 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine,uk.people.health
Jeff
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"JOHN" wrote in message
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"Jeff" wrote in message
news:wW7Sh.2314$%l5.1645@trnddc05...

Like it or not, allopaths not only want to prevent death, but allopaths
want to prevent all disease as well as the problems that result from
having disease, like brain damage and deafness.


reality check: allopaths are the leading cause of death
http://www.whale.to/a/dean.html


Incorrect. People die for the most part because they have diseases. They
don't die because they are treated by allopaths, which, by your definition,
I am not one.

Jeff

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Old April 12th 07, 07:07 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine,uk.people.health
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In article ,
JOHN wrote:

"Jeff" wrote in message
news:wW7Sh.2314$%l5.1645@trnddc05...

Like it or not, allopaths not only want to prevent death, but allopaths
want to prevent all disease as well as the problems that result from
having disease, like brain damage and deafness.


reality check: allopaths are the leading cause of death
http://www.whale.to/a/dean.html


Better reality check -- the numbers in that so-called report are
mostly either irrelevant, obsolete, or speculative.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"HPV shots don't cause promiscuity. Tequila shots do." -- Bill Maher



 




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