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"Sue" wrote in message ... Our Girl Scouts have dues that are paid either in advance or each week. Many actitivies, or special things are paid with this money. However, that doesn't include a gift at the end though. -- Sue (mom to three girls) Ours too -- a one time fee at the beginning of the year. That money goes directly back to the girls in the form of craft supplies, field trips, etc. So, no, it doesn't include anything for the leaders. Bizby |
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"jojo" wrote in message . com... Bizby i have not had time to read all of the posts, but if you sent out the emails at the end of last week or this week, spring break may be a reason for no response. I never check my email from home, and if I were off this week would not know about your request till next week. his may not be the case, but an explaination for lack of resoponse? hugs, jojo The first e-mails went out a couple of months ago, and the more specific ones a couple of weeks ago. But our spring break is still weeks away. Bizby |
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In article , Cathy Kearns
says... "lenny fackler" wrote in message roups.com... bizby40 wrote: Our Girl Scout leaders are retiring after 5 years. All I wanted to do was to get a little gift, show a little appreciation. After all, we haven't given them anything as a group *ever*. It's a nice idea but these things do tend to accumulate and become, if not overwhelming, a major annoyance. It seems like someone is constantly organizing an impromptu fundraiser. I don't think of myself as a cheapskate and I try to do my part but between family and close friends, the clubs and activities of my two children, pre-school classes, neighborhood kids, and the hat passing and fundraising that goes on at the office it sometimes drives me crazy. If you're the fifth person hitting me up that week I might blow you off. And my kids aren't even regular school age yet. It's going to get so much worse. So, do you consider mother's day presents for your mother a "fund raiser"? These are people who volunteered their time for 5 years for these girls. Ten dollars for a thank you gift does not seem out of line. I would want to tell these folks, if you don't appreciate the time volunteers are putting in for your children, be it scouts or coaching teams or whatever, don't send the kids. If you are too busy to respond to emails or come up with thank yous or remind your child to dress for a picture you could probably get all sorts of time back by cutting back on these activities altogether. This just reminds me of the bride and groom who feel they don't need to do thank you notes for the gifts because they are too busy. So, for the poster whose kids aren't even regular school age, if you don't have time to at least thank the volunteers, if not help with the troop/team/group, don't sign the kids up for their activities. It's really that simple. Oh foo. *I'm* one of those volunteers, and frankly I don't expect the umptheenth doohickey as a 'thanks'. The verbal thanks and little day to day helps is enough for me. From the POV of a parent, sometimes, when it came to a teacher, I wanted to do my own gift, then what do I tell Ms. Organizer when she wants the ten bucks for the Great Group Gift? "no thanks I'm going something to that end on my own" dosnt' work because she has it all written down, how big the gift certificate is going to be, how much everyone should 'chip in'. It *is* a case of causes of various worthiness that have been knocking on our doors and coming over our telephones and coming in our kids' backpacks, and it turns into Gift Fatigue and Fund Raiser Fatigue because the two kinds of things are often not that distinguishable and do ask for stuff out of the same pot of resources. I'm not saying there's no good reason to give gifts as thanks, but it does have to be done againt this background of STUFF that people are bothered for all the time. So it takes some sensitivity and flexibility. Banty |
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"Cathy Kearns" wrote in message . com... "lenny fackler" wrote in message oups.com... bizby40 wrote: Our Girl Scout leaders are retiring after 5 years. All I wanted to do was to get a little gift, show a little appreciation. After all, we haven't given them anything as a group *ever*. It's a nice idea but these things do tend to accumulate and become, if not overwhelming, a major annoyance. It seems like someone is constantly organizing an impromptu fundraiser. I don't think of myself as a cheapskate and I try to do my part but between family and close friends, the clubs and activities of my two children, pre-school classes, neighborhood kids, and the hat passing and fundraising that goes on at the office it sometimes drives me crazy. If you're the fifth person hitting me up that week I might blow you off. And my kids aren't even regular school age yet. It's going to get so much worse. So, do you consider mother's day presents for your mother a "fund raiser"? These are people who volunteered their time for 5 years for these girls. That was my feeling. I think there can be too many of these things too. But in this case, we've got women that have been donating their time and energy directly to our girls, with no compensation, for 5 whole years. So, drop the baby shower for the co-worker you barely know. Give the soccer coach who spent 8 weeks with your child a heartfelt "Thanks!", but these ladies deserve something special. Bizby Ten dollars for a thank you gift does not seem out of line. I would want to tell these folks, if you don't appreciate the time volunteers are putting in for your children, be it scouts or coaching teams or whatever, don't send the kids. If you are too busy to respond to emails or come up with thank yous or remind your child to dress for a picture you could probably get all sorts of time back by cutting back on these activities altogether. This just reminds me of the bride and groom who feel they don't need to do thank you notes for the gifts because they are too busy. So, for the poster whose kids aren't even regular school age, if you don't have time to at least thank the volunteers, if not help with the troop/team/group, don't sign the kids up for their activities. It's really that simple. |
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"Cathy Kearns" wrote: "lenny fackler" wrote in message oups.com... bizby40 wrote: Our Girl Scout leaders are retiring after 5 years. All I wanted to do was to get a little gift, show a little appreciation. After all, we haven't given them anything as a group *ever*. It's a nice idea but these things do tend to accumulate and become, if not overwhelming, a major annoyance. It seems like someone is constantly organizing an impromptu fundraiser. I don't think of myself as a cheapskate and I try to do my part but between family and close friends, the clubs and activities of my two children, pre-school classes, neighborhood kids, and the hat passing and fundraising that goes on at the office it sometimes drives me crazy. If you're the fifth person hitting me up that week I might blow you off. And my kids aren't even regular school age yet. It's going to get so much worse. So, do you consider mother's day presents for your mother a "fund raiser"? These are people who volunteered their time for 5 years for these girls. Ten dollars for a thank you gift does not seem out of line. I would want to tell these folks, if you don't appreciate the time volunteers are putting in for your children, be it scouts or coaching teams or whatever, don't send the kids. If you are too busy to respond to emails or come up with thank yous or remind your child to dress for a picture you could probably get all sorts of time back by cutting back on these activities altogether. This just reminds me of the bride and groom who feel they don't need to do thank you notes for the gifts because they are too busy. So, for the poster whose kids aren't even regular school age, if you don't have time to at least thank the volunteers, if not help with the troop/team/group, don't sign the kids up for their activities. It's really that simple. That's a little harsh. It CAN be overwhelming if you end up being hit up for $10 at work for a wedding gift for a co-worker, $10 for a gift for the volunteer who teaches your kid's religious education class, $10 for the little league coach, and $10 for the scout troup leader all in the same week or two. And if you have several children, there ARE weeks like that, and it DOES start to feel out of control and frustrating. (And there are also people who are CONSTANTLY finding reasons to ask everyone for money to give gifts, even for people who are already being paid -- teachers, ministers, etc, to a point that begins to feel ridiculous. -- Children won't care how much you know until they know how much you care |
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"Penny Gaines" wrote in message ... bizby40 wrote: "Sue" wrote in message ... "bizby40" wrote in message People that don't read their e-mail is another peeve of mine. :-) Are you sure people who have email know how to use it? Many of the parents in the girls' troops don't know how to use their email. Send correspondance through the child at school, mail it or call. Okay, people who have e-mail and don't learn to use it is a third peeve of mine! :-) I have email, and know how to use it, but I get so much spam in my inbox that I ignore anything sent in non-plain-text from a name I don't recognise. Often I ignore anything from names I don't recognise. People who use there e-mail addresses willy-nilly all over the internet thus getting their mailboxes full of spam is a fourth peeve of mine!!! (no matter how you look at it, I'm gonna be peeved if I can't e-mail someone about something legit.) Personally, I get tired of all the nickel and diming that gets asked of us for different projects, field trips, gifts for teachers and with three kids it starts to add up. I do think $10 is a bit much. I would lower it to $5. Well, I didn't intend to give an amount at all, until a couple different people asked. To me, $10 split between two people isn't much at all. So that's what I said. I don't think I worded it in such a way that people should have taken it as an obligation to give that much, or to give any at all. I guess that's one reason why I'm so annoyed. I'm just trying to do something nice for a couple of people who deserve it, and now I have to worry about exactly how everything I say is worded so that everyone is happy. We don't split things like that in our family: either I pay the lot, or dh pays the lot. It adds up when you have more then one child in the activity - you might be seeing "$5 per parent", which seems reasonable, but I'd be seeing "$20 for my two girls", which is an expense. No, that was $5 per leader -- there are two leaders retiring. And there are no siblings in the troop. -- Penny Gaines UK mum to three |
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Cathy Kearns wrote: "lenny fackler" wrote in message oups.com... bizby40 wrote: Our Girl Scout leaders are retiring after 5 years. All I wanted to do was to get a little gift, show a little appreciation. After all, we haven't given them anything as a group *ever*. It's a nice idea but these things do tend to accumulate and become, if not overwhelming, a major annoyance. It seems like someone is constantly organizing an impromptu fundraiser. I don't think of myself as a cheapskate and I try to do my part but between family and close friends, the clubs and activities of my two children, pre-school classes, neighborhood kids, and the hat passing and fundraising that goes on at the office it sometimes drives me crazy. If you're the fifth person hitting me up that week I might blow you off. And my kids aren't even regular school age yet. It's going to get so much worse. So, do you consider mother's day presents for your mother a "fund raiser"? Why would I think that? These are people who volunteered their time for 5 years for these girls. Ten dollars for a thank you gift does not seem out of line. I didn't say it was out of line. I would want to tell these folks, if you don't appreciate the time volunteers are putting in for your children, be it scouts or coaching teams or whatever, don't send the kids. Buying them gifts is the only way to show your appreciation? If you are too busy to respond to emails or come up with thank yous or remind your child to dress for a picture you could probably get all sorts of time back by cutting back on these activities altogether. I'm usually not too busy to do any of those things. This just reminds me of the bride and groom who feel they don't need to do thank you notes for the gifts because they are too busy. In what way? Does Miss Manners say you have to buy a gift for your children's troop leaders? So, for the poster whose kids aren't even regular school age, if you don't have time to at least thank the volunteers, if not help with the troop/team/group, don't sign the kids up for their activities. It's really that simple. I appreciate my children's coaches and teachers (although most of them are actually paid). When it comes to sports with volunteers running the teams my wife or I are there to pitch in whenever we can. I was only trying to explain the point of view of a parent who may not quickly respond to every request for another 5,10 or $20. They come frequently and often for causes that I'm not particularly moved by. Burnout can occur. I'm venting from the opposing view of the original vent but to be honest, if my child had a scout leader for 5 years I'm sure I would really want to do something for them. |
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"bizby40" wrote in message ... "jojo" wrote in message . com... Bizby i have not had time to read all of the posts, but if you sent out the emails at the end of last week or this week, spring break may be a reason for no response. I never check my email from home, and if I were off this week would not know about your request till next week. his may not be the case, but an explaination for lack of resoponse? hugs, jojo The first e-mails went out a couple of months ago, and the more specific ones a couple of weeks ago. But our spring break is still weeks away. Bizby oh....gee...sorry this turned out to be such a pain for you...certainly was a nice thought and I'm sure the thought does count..... Happy St. Patrick's Day! jojo |
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In article , bizby40 says...
"Penny Gaines" wrote in message ... bizby40 wrote: "Sue" wrote in message ... "bizby40" wrote in message People that don't read their e-mail is another peeve of mine. :-) Are you sure people who have email know how to use it? Many of the parents in the girls' troops don't know how to use their email. Send correspondance through the child at school, mail it or call. Okay, people who have e-mail and don't learn to use it is a third peeve of mine! :-) I have email, and know how to use it, but I get so much spam in my inbox that I ignore anything sent in non-plain-text from a name I don't recognise. Often I ignore anything from names I don't recognise. People who use there e-mail addresses willy-nilly all over the internet thus getting their mailboxes full of spam is a fourth peeve of mine!!! (no matter how you look at it, I'm gonna be peeved if I can't e-mail someone about something legit.) Our Cub Scout Committee chair had a computer, but was barely computer literate and was absolutely overwhelmed by the spam she was getting. She didn't know a file from an application - to her it was all pictures on a screen and things to click here and there (I know, I helped her a few times) so email filters were way beyond her. One of the societal costs to spam. So, I had to do everything with her hardcopy for the newsletter unless I had a chance to sit with her with a floppy disk I would give her and help her use it. Which was a hassle, because that's a pretty central role for a Cub Pack. But her email address was useless. Banty |
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"Banty" wrote in message ... [snip] Our Cub Scout Committee chair had a computer, but was barely computer literate and was absolutely overwhelmed by the spam she was getting. She didn't know a file from an application - to her it was all pictures on a screen and things to click here and there (I know, I helped her a few times) so email filters were way beyond her. One of the societal costs to spam. So, I had to do everything with her hardcopy for the newsletter unless I had a chance to sit with her with a floppy disk I would give her and help her use it. Which was a hassle, because that's a pretty central role for a Cub Pack. But her email address was useless. Banty I'm such a nerd -- I computerize everything I take over. I do the school directory -- the first year was such a pain to get everything entered. Now I use Word and Mail Merge and zip, it's done. I'm Girl Scout treasurer, and when I get the hard copies of the financial sheets, the first thing I do is make an Excel Spreadsheet out of it. I just became the awards chair for the Cub Scouts, and the first thing I did upon getting all the hand- written notes from my predecessor was to put them all into Excel. Heck, my grocery list is in Excel, and I use Mail Merge to print out the envelopes for my Christmas cards! The last time I needed a full check-up, I scanned in the questionnaire from the doctor so I could type my responses. My secret goal is to remove all pencils from my life. Bizby |
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