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Question 7: Dr Andrew Wakefield - Drawn Out Trial Why did it take so long for the charges to be brought against you, Murch and Walker-Smith? I think that is really a question for the prosecuting council I don't know, and I suspect it may go to the quality of the charges themselves, the reliability of the charges. How do you construe a charge out of 'you caused this child to have a lumbar puncture'? What does that mean? You didn't do it, you didn't order it, you didn't assess the child in advance to determine whether they needed it. You were part of none of those things, yet you caused the child to have a lumbar puncture. Well, it is an interesting form of words, so I don't know, I don't know, but I suspect they wanted to get as much together as they could, to throw everything in there in the hope that something would stick. Question 9: The Trial of Clinical Medicine But I thought we were supposed to be living in a democracy? So did I (laughs), we are so far from living in a democracy, so far, and this is a very very important case in so many ways. I know that may sound very pompous to say that but actually orthodox medicine is on trial here. We, my colleagues and I, practice orthodox medicine based implicitly on the history of the patient, the physical examination of the patient, the correct clinical evaluation of the patient, making a diagnosis, treating that, the disease, and monitoring the patient. That is what we do, and that is the kind of medicine that should be practice. That is really being challenged now. When that comes into conflict with the beliefs, the diktat of public health, it is no longer someway permissible to do that, so medicine is on trial, and if we lose, the position of the Department of Health is endorsed, then their ability to persecute doctors in this way is upheld, then what happens in the future? What happens when their is a drug related injury to a patient, what happens when a new complication emerges from a treatment or a vaccine? Doctors are going to say, hey, it's too bad, I'm not going to get involved, because you have Big Pharmaceutical industry there, with their friends in government, that are going to come down on me and make my life a misery. It happened with Thalidomide and it has happened time and time again. Every time a doctor puts his head up above the parapet and said this vaccine or this drug is not safe, then his world had been turned upside down. That is not a reason to walk away, in fact it is every reason to fight it because otherwise we just hand over, give up, hand over the world to the drug companies and walk away. Question 11 Dr Andrew Wakefield - The Frighteners How do you feel about the lack of support shown by fellow doctors generally? (inaudible, letters?) from GPs and psychiatrists, and others saying this is what happened to this child, and we are right behind with you. Where are you? I don't see you, but that is OK, that's OK, I don't feel any antipathy towards them. It is just human nature. Maybe they are not sufficiently persuaded that they are ready to come all the way out. Maybe....many of the doctors I deal with are parents of affected children themselves, they know what happened. Sometimes they are still frightened to say. That I find a little difficult to swallow. Their children have been damaged and yet they still are keen to keep quiet about it. |
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On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 09:36:26 +0100, "john" wrote:
Question 7: Dr Andrew Wakefield - Drawn Out Trial Why did it take so long for the charges to be brought against you, Murch and Walker-Smith? I think that is really a question for the prosecuting council I don't know, I don't suppose for one moment it had anything to do with Wakefields propensity for hiring lawyers and employing delaying tactics? and I suspect it may go to the quality of the charges themselves, the reliability of the charges. How do you construe a charge out of 'you caused this child to have a lumbar puncture'? What does that mean? It was all clearly explained in the judgment. Has he not read it? I know that may sound very pompous to say that but actually orthodox medicine is on trial here. It sounds extraordinarily pompous given that he was found guilty of dishonesty. It wasn't his poor research which was investigated but his arrogant, misleading and dishonest behaviour. Question 11 Dr Andrew Wakefield - The Frighteners How do you feel about the lack of support shown by fellow doctors generally? (inaudible, letters?) from GPs and psychiatrists, and others saying this is what happened to this child, and we are right behind with you. Where are you? I don't see you, but that is OK, that's OK, I don't feel any antipathy towards them. It is just human nature. Maybe they are not sufficiently persuaded that they are ready to come all the way out. Isn't a bit more likely that in view of his dishonesty, bad science, and use of the law to suppress information and critics that he has no supporters? |
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"Peter Parry" wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 09:36:26 +0100, "john" wrote: Chucking mud at wakefield isn't going to hide the fact you have kept a dangerous vaccine on the market for 22 years and counting, causing a huge epidemic of autism and bowel disease. That is worse than criminal, satanic sums that up and that is one top of injecting mercury into millions of kids and pregnany women |
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On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 21:14:57 +0100, "john" wrote:
"Peter Parry" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 09:36:26 +0100, "john" wrote: Chucking mud at wakefield Wakefield is wallowing in a mud bath entirely of his own manufacture. These advertisements you keep posting for him are simply showing up the way he is trying to distort reality. Unfortunately for him the stench around his rotting ideas will never go away. isn't going to hide the fact you have kept a dangerous vaccine on the market for 22 years and counting, causing a huge epidemic of autism and bowel disease. There isn't a shred of evidence to support this asinine ideas. Wakefields reliance upon the flawed work of Unigenetics has been proven to be worthless. His hypothesis depended upon finding measles in the gut and it simply wasn't there. He is now chasing money, not science. satanic sums that up Would that involve burn marks from sitting on Ley lines? |
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