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help me keep my son from perpetuating the cycle of abuse (very long)
"Tiffany" wrote in message ... wrote in message news:KDDSa.107753$N7.14512@sccrnsc03... Lisa aka Surfer wrote: Well done, Tom. You have a bigger heart than I, it was clear from the very first reply from Betsy that she wasn't going to get the point. Yet you still took the time. Man oh man you're doing well these days!!!! Lisa Actually, Lisa, you and Tom are as emotionally abusive to me on here as always and I won't put up with it from you either. And I was able to resolve things with Betsy as I apologized for my sarcasm and she did get through to me in email. Because she did truly care for me and my son's best interests. You never have. You have always been catty and superior and very hurtful to me and I will not allow you to continue to do that to me here. L, you need to let go of this 'being abused online' stuff. No one can hurt you unless you let them, online. Don't read their posts for god sake. Ditto, I agree here Lorian. Killfile him, you've enough on yer plate without making yourself read stuff that you know is going to get you down. Dolores |
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dolores wrote:
No I didn't mean *real* murder (getting away with murder must be an Irish phrase). I meant that he knew he could push the boundaries with you cos he could tell you had difficulty saying no.... "getting away with murder" is a phrase here too, it just struck a little too close to my heart as I am so afraid of the police at this point since they so consistently blame me and punish me whenever I ask them for help in a crisis. And now my son has called my mother and lied to her too and she didn't even call me to check the story out at all, she just assumed that I was violent and told him to call his father to see if he could go live with him. Is SHE insane? For one thing, she doesn't know me very well since she isn't around me on a daily basis at all so she is no judge of my character and for another thing, sending my so to call his father is sending him to certain and painful rejection, his father doesn't WANT him. This is the man who left me when I was pregnant and who complains about paying child support, saying it is free money that I don't earn and that he has his "own" family to support so he can't afford my son. I hope to God my mother is never called upon as my next of kin to determine whether I should be committed long term to a psychiatric unit because she told me to my face that she assumed my son's story of me being violent was true. What a bitch. The people in my life who do know me who know I wouldn't and couldn't hurt him since I am physically unable are not related to me though. And she has a history of abusing me herself but that was long ago. ****. I am so scared now. what am I going to do? I need to find out the laws for my state and how to get myself a guardian or something. For once I wish I was married. Oh I didnt mean *you* threatened it, I meant a few others that replied to your post suggested it, and (personally) I dont this would be good in your particular situation, after all who else has this lad got....and it would probably cause more problems than it would solve, I think. This is what I think would have been ideal for you when you first became pregnant. I think social services should try and help, not just you, but all first time mothers that have come from an abusive family by placing them in a family that could be considered relatively normal (cos there's no such thing as an ideal family). Long term it would save the Gov. a whole lot of money and there'd be a lot less children in this world suffering, simply cos the parents had no idea how to be parents. I searched for it in church after church but I never found it. If I am ever rich I will start a chain of these. Oh yeah!!.. I never thought of this group. Did you ever consider going to them before, when your lad was little? We did go to parents anonymous when he was little but I was always living with an abuser at the time so it only went so far I'm afraid. I dont know if I would call this *being there* for you, but I hope things do get better for you. It is people like you who have reached out to me in these times of crisis throughout my life that have sustained me and kept me going. I appreciate your practical advice and words of kindness so much. |
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help me keep my son from perpetuating the cycle of abuse (very long)
Tiffany wrote:
wrote in message news:KDDSa.107753$N7.14512@sccrnsc03... Lisa aka Surfer wrote: Well done, Tom. You have a bigger heart than I, it was clear from the very first reply from Betsy that she wasn't going to get the point. Yet you still took the time. Man oh man you're doing well these days!!!! Lisa Actually, Lisa, you and Tom are as emotionally abusive to me on here as always and I won't put up with it from you either. And I was able to resolve things with Betsy as I apologized for my sarcasm and she did get through to me in email. Because she did truly care for me and my son's best interests. You never have. You have always been catty and superior and very hurtful to me and I will not allow you to continue to do that to me here. L, you need to let go of this 'being abused online' stuff. No one can hurt you unless you let them, online. Don't read their posts for god sake. Hey, don't take the responsibility off of Lisa and put it on me Tiffany. Lisa has a very long history of being cruel to me in her posts to me. She doesn't need to waste bandwidth targeting me when I am at my most vulnerable with hurtful remarks but she does it all the time. There is no difference between if she said it to me online or in the mail or on the telephone or to my face, words hurt. Get in her face, not mine. |
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help me keep my son from perpetuating the cycle of abuse (very long)
Rolly The Pervert wrote:
wrote in message news:KDDSa.107753$N7.14512@sccrnsc03... Lisa aka Surfer wrote: Well done, Tom. You have a bigger heart than I, it was clear from the very first reply from Betsy that she wasn't going to get the point. Yet you still took the time. Man oh man you're doing well these days!!!! Lisa Actually, Lisa, you and Tom are as emotionally abusiveslap And what you gonna do about it? **** off bitch So, calling me a bitch is ok with the group? It's my fault for failing to ignore him? Tell me why it isn't his fault. |
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help me keep my son from perpetuating the cycle of abuse (very long)
wrote in message et... Tiffany wrote: wrote in message news:KDDSa.107753$N7.14512@sccrnsc03... Lisa aka Surfer wrote: Well done, Tom. You have a bigger heart than I, it was clear from the very first reply from Betsy that she wasn't going to get the point. Yet you still took the time. Man oh man you're doing well these days!!!! Lisa Actually, Lisa, you and Tom are as emotionally abusive to me on here as always and I won't put up with it from you either. And I was able to resolve things with Betsy as I apologized for my sarcasm and she did get through to me in email. Because she did truly care for me and my son's best interests. You never have. You have always been catty and superior and very hurtful to me and I will not allow you to continue to do that to me here. L, you need to let go of this 'being abused online' stuff. No one can hurt you unless you let them, online. Don't read their posts for god sake. Hey, don't take the responsibility off of Lisa and put it on me Tiffany. Lisa has a very long history of being cruel to me in her posts to me. She doesn't need to waste bandwidth targeting me when I am at my most vulnerable with hurtful remarks but she does it all the time. There is no difference between if she said it to me online or in the mail or on the telephone or to my face, words hurt. Get in her face, not mine. My point is don't read them. This is the internet and anyone can say what they want. All we can do is not read it. OR if you do read it, take it with a grain of salt. I really don't understand why you let the written words of people you don't know and will never know hurt you. Take the useful posts with you, let the unuseful ones go. |
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help me keep my son from perpetuating the cycle of abuse (very long)
Rolly The Pervert wrote:
wrote in message news:KDDSa.107753$N7.14512@sccrnsc03... Actually, Lisa, you and Tom are as emotionally abusiveslap And what you gonna do about it? **** off bitch Tom, you are simply proving my point as what you just did is emotional abuse! I thought you were in recovery? And every techie knows that databasix is the last resort of the coward usenet poster who needs to hide behind a terms of service agreement that allows for anything goes. Better watch it though, there are still laws to follow... |
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wrote in message news:GHISa.96500$GL4.27021@rwcrnsc53... Rolly The Pervert wrote: wrote in message news:KDDSa.107753$N7.14512@sccrnsc03... Lisa aka Surfer wrote: Well done, Tom. You have a bigger heart than I, it was clear from the very first reply from Betsy that she wasn't going to get the point. Yet you still took the time. Man oh man you're doing well these days!!!! Lisa Actually, Lisa, you and Tom are as emotionally abusiveslap And what you gonna do about it? **** off bitch So, calling me a bitch is ok with the group? It's my fault for failing to ignore him? Tell me why it isn't his fault. Err... here we go again. To me, no name calling is ok but I can't control what Roy types or what Paul types nor would I want to. There is no one to be at fault here. You have name called also though, maybe not using b---- but you called Paul a women abuser which is pretty harsh. More so then being a bitch as most women confess to being a bitch. You are dealing with alot right now.... why make it worse by dealing with negative posts? |
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help me keep my son from perpetuating the cycle of abuse (very long)
Tiffany wrote:
wrote in message My point is don't read them. This is the internet and anyone can say what they want. All we can do is not read it. OR if you do read it, take it with a grain of salt. I really don't understand why you let the written words of people you don't know and will never know hurt you. Take the useful posts with you, let the unuseful ones go. to tell you the truth, the sane part of me thought of that right after I hit send, lol. I sometimes have to speak out for my own mental health but after that I was going back through and seeing how Dennis and Lisa ignored Tom's vicious reply to my original message and how he even started a whole new thread that was even more vicious but they replied to his one positive post and either they are deeply in denial, co-conspirators with him in some unconscious way, or they were just trying to accentuate the positive. I have more faith in Dennis than in Lisa based on history but the bottom line is: take the good, leave the bad. |
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help me keep my son from perpetuating the cycle of abuse (very long)
Tiffany wrote:
Err... here we go again. To me, no name calling is ok but I can't control what Roy types or what Paul types nor would I want to. There is no one to be at fault here. You have name called also though, maybe not using b---- but you called Paul a women abuser which is pretty harsh. um, he IS a woman abuser, Paul Fritz abuses me here regularly, duh Tiffany. More so then being a bitch as most women confess to being a bitch. So, I abuse Paul Fritz worse than he abuses me? ok, you can just stop "helping" me now, thank you. I've had enough mind games for awhile. You are dealing with alot right now.... why make it worse by dealing with negative posts? good point. |
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help me keep my son from perpetuating the cycle of abuse (very long)
"Tiffany" wrote in message ... wrote in message news:GHISa.96500$GL4.27021@rwcrnsc53... Rolly The Pervert wrote: wrote in message news:KDDSa.107753$N7.14512@sccrnsc03... Lisa aka Surfer wrote: Well done, Tom. You have a bigger heart than I, it was clear from the very first reply from Betsy that she wasn't going to get the point. Yet you still took the time. Man oh man you're doing well these days!!!! Lisa Actually, Lisa, you and Tom are as emotionally abusiveslap And what you gonna do about it? **** off bitch So, calling me a bitch is ok with the group? It's my fault for failing to ignore him? Tell me why it isn't his fault. poor looney lorain, still can't grasp the concept of a unmoderated NG Err... here we go again. To me, no name calling is ok but I can't control what Roy types or what Paul types nor would I want to. There is no one to be at fault here. You have name called also though, maybe not using b---- but you called Paul a women abuser which is pretty harsh. Actually, that would just be a lie snicker More so then being a bitch as most women confess to being a bitch. You are dealing with alot right now.... why make it worse by dealing with negative posts? Maybe because she thrives on it. |
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