jumperoo?

I may suggest one of those pushing walker things, they look like fun,
but won't work til DD can pull up. For now, she pulls down ;-). She
loves to grab chairs and pull them TO her. Oh joy. Our biggest problem
right now is her clothes get super dirty on the bum (wood floors) due
to her scooting.

Just remembered, the one thing that suddenly seemed to help both of ours
pull up, was a toy that had a plastic base and two solid plastic arches,
it had various attachments that you could roll some plastic balls down,
and as always, batteries that made things go beep and music play. Once
they can cruise, it flips partially and is the most gentle slide
possible. It was kind of a replacement for the baby gym, got a
reasonable amount of use, about a year per child. Of course they both
like pulling up on furniture, but this was just the right height and
strong enough, the edge of the sofa which was a similar height at first
was too soft for them and other classic pull up things were too high, or
unstable. Unfortunately I can't find a picture to show you what I mean.

Anne

On Jun 17, 10:19 am, cjra wrote:
On Jun 14, 2:48 pm, cjra wrote:





My mom's been offering to buy a jumperoo (or similar) for DD's
birthday because she's concerned about DD's lack of interest in
walking/standing (she has the strength, just won't put her feet down).

Now, DD is nearly 1 yr old and almost 20 lbs. My thoughts are 1) she's
too big (or nearly so) for it anyway and 2) she'll walk when she wants
to walk and 3) we don't have space for more stuff.

What's the current thought/recommendation on these things? I know
walkers are not recommended, what about the jumper?

We do have another followup with the developmental specialist in
August, whom we're seeing just as a f/u to her birth issues, so far
there hasn't been too much concern. She's a little behind on
milestones, but well within the curve. She doesn't crawl, but scoots
all over the place. She pulls up onto her knees occasionally, so she
*can* just doesn't appear to want to.

Thank you all for the advice. I managed to convince my mom not to buy
it by using the 'pediatricians don't recommend blah blah blah" line.
My mom seems to be concerned about DD's lagging in milestones,
probably knowing the birth problems. Between 8 kids and 25 grandkids,
I'm sure milestones have been all over the place, and only one of
those has issues (Asperger's syndrome), but for some reason she's
extra concerned about DD.

I may suggest one of those pushing walker things, they look like fun,
but won't work til DD can pull up. For now, she pulls down ;-). She
loves to grab chairs and pull them TO her. Oh joy. Our biggest problem
right now is her clothes get super dirty on the bum (wood floors) due
to her scooting.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

A scooter, that's cute! Too bad about the clothes, but they would get
fairly dirty crawling around any which way.

My first born would not let his knees touch the ground (like walking
on all fours), my second, regular type crawling, my third used to have
one leg that sort of dragged behind. My mom was really concerned. I
am happy to report all my kids, who walked at different times and
crawled in different ways, turned out just fine.

Vickie

On Jun 17, 4:50 pm, Vickie wrote:
On Jun 17, 10:19 am, cjra wrote:





On Jun 14, 2:48 pm, cjra wrote:

My mom's been offering to buy a jumperoo (or similar) for DD's
birthday because she's concerned about DD's lack of interest in
walking/standing (she has the strength, just won't put her feet down).

Now, DD is nearly 1 yr old and almost 20 lbs. My thoughts are 1) she's
too big (or nearly so) for it anyway and 2) she'll walk when she wants
to walk and 3) we don't have space for more stuff.

What's the current thought/recommendation on these things? I know
walkers are not recommended, what about the jumper?

We do have another followup with the developmental specialist in
August, whom we're seeing just as a f/u to her birth issues, so far
there hasn't been too much concern. She's a little behind on
milestones, but well within the curve. She doesn't crawl, but scoots
all over the place. She pulls up onto her knees occasionally, so she
*can* just doesn't appear to want to.

Thank you all for the advice. I managed to convince my mom not to buy
it by using the 'pediatricians don't recommend blah blah blah" line.
My mom seems to be concerned about DD's lagging in milestones,
probably knowing the birth problems. Between 8 kids and 25 grandkids,
I'm sure milestones have been all over the place, and only one of
those has issues (Asperger's syndrome), but for some reason she's
extra concerned about DD.

I may suggest one of those pushing walker things, they look like fun,
but won't work til DD can pull up. For now, she pulls down ;-). She
loves to grab chairs and pull them TO her. Oh joy. Our biggest problem
right now is her clothes get super dirty on the bum (wood floors) due
to her scooting.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

A scooter, that's cute! Too bad about the clothes, but they would get
fairly dirty crawling around any which way.

Yeah, I figured as much. She was content to just scoot around her mat
before (which takes up most of the living room), but now is determined
to scoot all over the house. Even the floor I cleaned yesterday was
dirty enough by last night to make her clothes a mess, not to mention
the few raw wood floors we still have.... I try not to let her get
that far, but sometimes she's fast.


My first born would not let his knees touch the ground (like walking
on all fours), my second, regular type crawling, my third used to have
one leg that sort of dragged behind. My mom was really concerned. I
am happy to report all my kids, who walked at different times and
crawled in different ways, turned out just fine.

eh, I'm not really worried. She does the bum scoot with the leg
dragging behind. Unfortunately that means one leg gets a bit
'burned' (not really a rug burn, as there's no rug, it just gets a bit
raw).

I thought maybe she wasn't crawling due to the wood floors, but the
babysitter has carpet and she doesn't crawl there either.

On Jun 17, 1:36 pm, "Welches"
wrote:

Is she bottom shuffling rather than crawling?

Bottom shuffling. She refuses to get on all fours, even when we help
her. She can lift up on her arms, and she sort of does the army crawl
but not quite, she wiggles her bum around enough to get herself
moving.

I think there's research out there (I was told by a Doctor) showing that on
average bottom shufflers walk considerably after their peers, months later.
I can't remember the reason sited but it seemed to come from a reliable
source (might have been the BMJ). Certainly the bottom shufflers I've known
have been late to walk.
Having just google searched "bottom shuffling" walking I've come up withhttp://www.fleshandbones.com/readingroom/pdf/1508.pdf
If you go to the second page (I think it's labelled as page 25) at the top
on the right hand column it says that bottom shufflers are later to walk.
Hope that might help with your mum.

That's good to know, I'll remember that when everyone says she should
be walking by now.


I might speak to your mum. Ask her why she seems particularly concerned
about your dd, if you have that sort of relationship with her. It may be
that she thinks she's spotted something, or just she "has a feeling" (which
could be entirely wrong! so don't let that panic you if she says that) or
maybe she feels extra protective because of the birth problems.

She lives far away so hasn't spent that much time with her (3 weeks in
total, at separate times), so I doubt she's noticed anything. She's
just nervous due to DD's birth problems.

cjra wrote:

On Jun 17, 4:50 pm, Vickie wrote:
On Jun 17, 10:19 am, cjra wrote:

Thank you all for the advice. I managed to convince my mom not to buy
it by using the 'pediatricians don't recommend blah blah blah" line.
My mom seems to be concerned about DD's lagging in milestones,
probably knowing the birth problems. Between 8 kids and 25 grandkids,
I'm sure milestones have been all over the place, and only one of
those has issues (Asperger's syndrome), but for some reason she's
extra concerned about DD.

I may suggest one of those pushing walker things, they look like fun,
but won't work til DD can pull up. For now, she pulls down ;-). She
loves to grab chairs and pull them TO her. Oh joy. Our biggest problem
right now is her clothes get super dirty on the bum (wood floors) due
to her scooting.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

A scooter, that's cute! Too bad about the clothes, but they would get
fairly dirty crawling around any which way.

Yeah, I figured as much. She was content to just scoot around her mat
before (which takes up most of the living room), but now is determined
to scoot all over the house. Even the floor I cleaned yesterday was
dirty enough by last night to make her clothes a mess, not to mention
the few raw wood floors we still have.... I try not to let her get
that far, but sometimes she's fast.


My first born would not let his knees touch the ground (like walking
on all fours), my second, regular type crawling, my third used to have
one leg that sort of dragged behind. My mom was really concerned. I
am happy to report all my kids, who walked at different times and
crawled in different ways, turned out just fine.

eh, I'm not really worried. She does the bum scoot with the leg
dragging behind. Unfortunately that means one leg gets a bit
'burned' (not really a rug burn, as there's no rug, it just gets a bit
raw).

I had one that refused to crawl (on her hands and knees) in the grass,
so she crawled on the cement driveway. She didn't get a burn - she
rubbed her knees raw and left bloody knee prints.

I found this horrible, but she didn't appear to even notice, and I
couldn't get her to do it any other way.

I thought maybe she wasn't crawling due to the wood floors, but the
babysitter has carpet and she doesn't crawl there either.

"Welches" wrote in message
...

Is she bottom shuffling rather than crawling?
I think there's research out there (I was told by a Doctor) showing that
on average bottom shufflers walk considerably after their peers, months
later. I can't remember the reason sited but it seemed to come from a
reliable source (might have been the BMJ). Certainly the bottom shufflers
I've known have been late to walk.
Having just google searched "bottom shuffling" walking I've come up with
http://www.fleshandbones.com/readingroom/pdf/1508.pdf
If you go to the second page (I think it's labelled as page 25) at the top
on the right hand column it says that bottom shufflers are later to walk.
Hope that might help with your mum.

Strictly anectdote here, but my "bottom shuffler" here walked at 13 months
(didn't pull himself up to stand until he was nearly 12mo). Pretty average
for the walking bit. However, he has never been a risk taker so I think it
was more of a personality thing than anything else. He's 6.5 now and
extremely athletic and coordinated.

JennP.