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Old January 4th 05, 11:02 PM
Roger
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In one age, called the Second Age by some,
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Tommy wrote
in message 2719771.Zq8IR33xm8@FreeBSD:

Mr. Ellis wrote:


Mr. McVay,

Because of my reversed opinion about the Holocaust I can clearly see where
The Nizkor Project is a valuable asset to people wanting to research facts
about the Holocaust.


The Nizkor Project is a valuable asset to push hatred against the German
people for crimes they didn't commit.


.... which lie the pathetic ignorant lying little child has swallowed
whole, because zie fantasizes that Nizkor will filter out zir address
and give it to the ADL -- this, despite the facts that zie has *yet*
to explain:

1. How zir IP address will be found amongst the many hits that Nizkor
gets every day.
2. What, exactly, the ADL would *do* with that IP address
3. Why either the ADL or Nizkor would care enough about a pathetic
ignorant lying little child to put forth any effort at all in
this regard.

Nor will the pathetic ignorant lying little child be able to cite a
*single* instance of any "pushing of hatred" on the part of Nizkor.

Thousands of thankless hours have been used building
the Nizkor Project and I was wrong for criticizing you and your work.


Thousands of thankless hours have been used to make so-called survivors of
work-camps rich!


Of course, that pathetic ignorant lying little baby will be completely
unable to document a single survivor of a work camp that had been made
rich by the efforts of Nizkor, while all the while maintaining that
personages such as weber, irving, and zundel (who demonstrably *do*
make their livings swindling the like of tommie) do so out of the
goodness of their hearts, simply because they reinforce that pathetic
ignorant lying little child's irrational hatred

Please accept my apologies for any offending remarks or discredit I may
have directed towards you or your life's work.


You want forgiveness for speaking your mind? That goes to your current state
of mind...Lol


No, zie apparently wants forgiveness for the offensiveness of zir
previous tactics and statements.

That you cannot understand this speaks to your own ignorance and lack
of perception.

Sincerely,


Why not ask Ken if you can suck his dick on main street?


And so the pathetic ignorant lying little baby takes zir last step
into the quagmire that mixes irrational hatred, dishonesty and a
fascination with homoerotic imagery, becoming the compleat denier.

zir mommie must be *so* proud of zie...
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Old January 4th 05, 11:53 PM
Roger
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In one age, called the Second Age by some,
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Tommy wrote
in message 1659287.AVQx5EpHUL@FreeBSD:

Roger wrote:


You're an idiot!


And you're running.

Again.

Why don't you tell us all the answers to the questions:;

restore

In one age, called the Second Age by some,
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Tommy wrote
in message 2719771.Zq8IR33xm8@FreeBSD:

Mr. Ellis wrote:


Mr. McVay,

Because of my reversed opinion about the Holocaust I can clearly see where
The Nizkor Project is a valuable asset to people wanting to research facts
about the Holocaust.


The Nizkor Project is a valuable asset to push hatred against the German
people for crimes they didn't commit.


.... which lie the pathetic ignorant lying little child has swallowed
whole, because zie fantasizes that Nizkor will filter out zir address
and give it to the ADL -- this, despite the facts that zie has *yet*
to explain:

1. How zir IP address will be found amongst the many hits that Nizkor
gets every day.
2. What, exactly, the ADL would *do* with that IP address
3. Why either the ADL or Nizkor would care enough about a pathetic
ignorant lying little child to put forth any effort at all in
this regard.

Nor will the pathetic ignorant lying little child be able to cite a
*single* instance of any "pushing of hatred" on the part of Nizkor.

Thousands of thankless hours have been used building
the Nizkor Project and I was wrong for criticizing you and your work.


Thousands of thankless hours have been used to make so-called survivors of
work-camps rich!


Of course, that pathetic ignorant lying little baby will be completely
unable to document a single survivor of a work camp that had been made
rich by the efforts of Nizkor, while all the while maintaining that
personages such as weber, irving, and zundel (who demonstrably *do*
make their livings swindling the like of tommie) do so out of the
goodness of their hearts, simply because they reinforce that pathetic
ignorant lying little child's irrational hatred

Please accept my apologies for any offending remarks or discredit I may
have directed towards you or your life's work.


You want forgiveness for speaking your mind? That goes to your current state
of mind...Lol


No, zie apparently wants forgiveness for the offensiveness of zir
previous tactics and statements.

That you cannot understand this speaks to your own ignorance and lack
of perception.

Sincerely,


Why not ask Ken if you can suck his dick on main street?


And so the pathetic ignorant lying little baby takes zir last step
into the quagmire that mixes irrational hatred, dishonesty and a
fascination with homoerotic imagery, becoming the compleat denier.

zir mommie must be *so* proud of zie...

/restore

1. How *will* your IP address be found amongst the many hits that
Nizkor gets every day?
2. What, exactly, the ADL would *do* with that IP address?
3. Why would either the ADL or Nizkor care enough about a pathetic
ignorant lying little child to put forth any effort at all in this
regard?
4. Can you cite a *single* instance of any "pushing of hatred" on the
part of Nizkor.
5. Can you document a single survivor of a work camp that had been
made rich by the efforts of Nizkor?
6 Why do you maintain that personages such as weber, irving, and
zundel (who demonstrably *do* make their livings swindling the like of
tommie) do so out of the goodness of their hearts, with no financial
recompense?
7. Why do you completely discount the urge to apologize for
offensive behaviour?
8. What *is* the fascination you deniers have with homoerotic
imagery?
9. Is your mommie really proud of your question about main street?
10. Why did you snip everything you want to pretend you're not
running from?
11. Why do you continue to tell lies avoid talking about the thing
you yourself bring up?
12. When are you going to admit that you have neither the guts nor
the skill to read a text file whose location is fully qualified for
you, protected by someone whose skills you have repeatedly denigrated
(with absolutely no basis for doing so?)

Or will you simply snip everything again in an infantile tantrum of
denial?
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Old January 5th 05, 12:05 AM
Kenneth McVay OBC
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In article ,
Roger roger@. wrote:

[ignorant child flushed down the tommy]
1. How zir IP address will be found amongst the many hits that Nizkor
gets every day.


Nizkor employs a specially written Jewish script we call the
tommyrhythm. It instantly and permanently identifies ignorant
children, notes their IPN, home address, telephone number, quantity of
unsightly zits, height, weight, hair and eye colour, and transmits
that information to Abe Foxman.

Piece of cake.

2. What, exactly, the ADL would *do* with that IP address


The ADL publishes all of this information daily on the cover of the
New York Times, under the heading "Ignorant Children of the Day."

3. Why either the ADL or Nizkor would care enough about a pathetic
ignorant lying little child to put forth any effort at all in
this regard.


We don't, we just don't have anything better to do than persecute
stupid, pre-pubescent ignoramuses like tommy.


--
"...I note that on the few occasions of which I am aware where purveyors of
anti-Semitic propaganda have endeavoured to justify their materials in
court on the facts and the merits, they have been singularly unsuccessful..."
(http://www.vex.net/~nizkor/hweb/peop...ga/reason.html)
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Old January 5th 05, 12:10 AM
Roger
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In one age, called the Second Age by some,
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Tommy wrote
in message 15186355.EHEQQAybqF@FreeBSD:

Roger wrote:


In one age, called the Second Age by some,
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Tommy wrote
in message 1659287.AVQx5EpHUL@FreeBSD:


Roger wrote:


You're an idiot!


And you're running.


Again.

Cause your an idiot.


No, quite obviously because you are completely incapable of conducting
a substantive discussion without resorting to dishonesty, distortion,
denial and dick fantasies.

mommie must be bursting with pride...

Btw, I'm not to have anymore dealings with you. It's
not by my choice or anything. Hell, if it was up to me, I would just
killfile ya for a 'week' or so and then come back and argue with ya.


"Not by your choice," is it? what -- they won't let you be in the
denier club if you keep getting your head handed to you?
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Old January 5th 05, 12:11 AM
Roger
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In one age, called the Second Age by some,
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Tommy wrote
in message 1992814.LkKjm0eZRn@FreeBSD:

Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:


Your current address is nod.org? Sure it is.


I think the guy has the hots for ya Ken.


Please, this is not the place for your adolescent fantasies...
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Old January 5th 05, 12:18 AM
Roger
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In one age, called the Second Age by some,
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Tommy wrote
in message 2442537.K5PCrfP2LR@FreeBSD:

Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:


In article ,
Roger roger@. wrote:


[ignorant child flushed down the tommy]


1. How zir IP address will be found amongst the many hits that Nizkor
gets every day.


Nizkor employs a specially written Jewish script we call the
tommyrhythm. It instantly and permanently identifies ignorant
children, notes their IPN, home address, telephone number, quantity of
unsightly zits, height, weight, hair and eye colour, and transmits
that information to Abe Foxman.


I have no idea what you do with the IP numbers that you get..


Nor anything at all but your own delusions that they "get" any at all,
let alone *Do* anything with them. But that doesn't stop you from
using your fear that your address will be forwarded to the ADL as a
lame excuse to justify not reading the evidence presented on Nizkor,
thereby protecting your hard-won ignorance.

But, would you
be kind enough to tell Roger that your server/logs show the IP-numbers of
those that visit your website.


You know this for a fact? And even if such information *is*
collected, how *would* they go about the process of determining which
one of them was yours -- that *was* your lie, if you will remember:
that you dare not go to Nizkor because they will give your IP address
to the ADL.

*Then* we can talk about what they would do with it, and why either
entity would bother.

My friend Mud Pie - You know him from soc.culture.canada) Why is it that
everytime he refutes the post you make, he get thousands of packets coming
in from Israel? Ken are you behind that?


Because you're lying about that, too?

Just a guess...
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Old January 5th 05, 12:32 AM
Roger
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In one age, called the Second Age by some,
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Tommy wrote
in message 1215279.ST8pXLsmeM@FreeBSD:

So much for "not having any more dealings with me," huh?

Roger wrote:



You're an idiot!


And you're running.


Again.


Cause your an idiot.


No, quite obviously because you are completely incapable of conducting
a substantive discussion without resorting to dishonesty, distortion,
denial and dick fantasies.

mommie must be bursting with pride...


Is that a wiggers way of saying "YO MAMMA" What is it with blacks and you
wannaBe's and peoples mother? Never got that yo mamma stuff.


No, it's a way of maybe getting you to examine your motives: would
your mommie be proud of you accusing another poster of wanting to suck
someone's dick?


Btw, I'm not to have anymore dealings with you. It's
not by my choice or anything. Hell, if it was up to me, I would just
killfile ya for a 'week' or so and then come back and argue with ya.


"Not by your choice," is it?


Not by my choice, like I said; when you get on my nerves I plonk ya for a
week.


So, someone has a gun to your head and is *making* you run away,
pathetic ignorant lying little child?

what -- they won't let you be in the
denier club if you keep getting your head handed to you?


No, nothing to do with revisionism or who believes what. Some people think
you're doing wrong.


Of course, some people also lie to themselves that they are an honest
seeker after truth, when their documented behaviour shows that
protecting their hard-won ignorance and thereby justifying their
irrational hatred is far more important.

Once again -- why do you run from answering some very honest
questions, babychild?

1. How *will* your IP address be found amongst the many hits that
Nizkor gets every day?
2. What, exactly, the ADL would *do* with that IP address?
3. Why would either the ADL or Nizkor care enough about a pathetic
ignorant lying little child to put forth any effort at all in this
regard?
4. Can you cite a *single* instance of any "pushing of hatred" on the
part of Nizkor.
5. Can you document a single survivor of a work camp that had been
made rich by the efforts of Nizkor?
6 Why do you maintain that personages such as weber, irving, and
zundel (who demonstrably *do* make their livings swindling the like of
tommie) do so out of the goodness of their hearts, with no financial
recompense?
7. Why do you completely discount the urge to apologize for
offensive behaviour?
8. What *is* the fascination you deniers have with homoerotic
imagery?
9. Is your mommie really proud of your question about main street?
10. Why did you snip everything you want to pretend you're not
running from?
11. Why do you continue to tell lies avoid talking about the thing
you yourself bring up?
12. When are you going to admit that you have neither the guts nor
the skill to read a text file whose location is fully qualified for
you, protected by someone whose skills you have repeatedly denigrated
(with absolutely no basis for doing so?)

Run away baby -- throw us another tantrum and maybe someone will give
your binkie back...
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Old January 5th 05, 12:38 AM
Kenneth McVay OBC
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In article 2442537.K5PCrfP2LR@FreeBSD, Tommy wrote:
Kenneth McVay OBC wrote:

In article ,
Roger roger@. wrote:

[ignorant child flushed down the tommy]
1. How zir IP address will be found amongst the many hits that Nizkor
gets every day.


Nizkor employs a specially written Jewish script we call the
tommyrhythm. It instantly and permanently identifies ignorant
children, notes their IPN, home address, telephone number, quantity of
unsightly zits, height, weight, hair and eye colour, and transmits
that information to Abe Foxman.


I have no idea what you do with the IP numbers that you get..But, would you
be kind enough to tell Roger that your server/logs show the IP-numbers of
those that visit your website.


We ignore the logs completely, other than to collect stats every
night, at which point they are deleted.

My friend Mud Pie - You know him from soc.culture.canada) Why is it that
everytime he refutes the post you make, he get thousands of packets coming
in from Israel? Ken are you behind that?


You are simply too stupid for words, child.

--
"...I note that on the few occasions of which I am aware where purveyors of
anti-Semitic propaganda have endeavoured to justify their materials in
court on the facts and the merits, they have been singularly unsuccessful..."
(http://www.vex.net/~nizkor/hweb/peop...ga/reason.html)
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Old January 5th 05, 12:56 AM
Roger
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In one age, called the Second Age by some,
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Kenneth McVay OBC wrote
in message :

In article 2442537.K5PCrfP2LR@FreeBSD, Tommy wrote:


My friend Mud Pie - You know him from soc.culture.canada) Why is it that
everytime he refutes the post you make, he get thousands of packets coming
in from Israel? Ken are you behind that?


You are simply too stupid for words, child.


And you know what? I was bored, and so ran a few Google searches.
"mudpie" and "group:soc.culture.canada" produce a total of ~200 hits,
only three of which were from 2004 or 2005: two of those were test
messages, and one of which was a steal'n'paste whose misleading title
was answered 18 lines in, including word wraps but excluding white
space -- it appears that "mudpie" has the same reading comprehension
problems as the pathetic ignorant lying little child. Limiting the
search by the keywords "nizkor" "ken" and "mcvay" individually reduces
the posts to a handful, none of which can really be termed a
refutation of anything ken had written, since most of them amount to
"me, too's" in reply to the kind of forged accusations of tax evasion
and such that are well known to readers of alt.rev. The others are
simply steal'n'pastes that anyone familiar with the pathetic ignorant
lying little child habitually runs from the discussion of in a.r: not
least of which is the abbott "Prussian Blue" post from which the
babychild has been running for coming up on two years now.

So, as I guessed in my first response to this: yet another baby-lie
from the pathetic ignorant lying little child.

Run away, babychild -- throw us another tantrum on the way out...
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Old January 5th 05, 01:07 AM
Roger
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In one age, called the Second Age by some,
(an Age yet to come, an Age long past)
someone claiming to be Tommy wrote
in message 1285526.C6GKeKJaNe@FreeBSD:

Roger wrote:


You're an idiot!


And you're running.


Again.


Cause your an idiot.


No, quite obviously because you are completely incapable of conducting
a substantive discussion without resorting to dishonesty, distortion,
denial and dick fantasies.

mommie must be bursting with pride...


Is that a wiggers way of saying "YO MAMMA" What is it with blacks and you
wannaBe's and peoples mother? Never got that yo mamma stuff.


No, it's a way of maybe getting you to examine your motives: would
your mommie be proud of you accusing another poster of wanting to suck
someone's dick?


My mom has no idea what I do on the computer


Something I'm sure you are very thankful for. Why don't you show her
the one where you asked if someone wanted to suck ken's dick? Or the
one where you called her a lamer? Or any of the multitude of posts in
which you attempt to justify your hatred of an entire group of people
(moist of whom you do not know nor will ever meet) by posting lies you
stole from some hater site?

..As for Don, well, I've never seen anyone kiss so much ass.


No, you've puckered up far more at the altar of Holocaust denial,
especially before the icon of mark weber.

As for him sucking Ken's dick - that was an
analogy and you know it!


An analogy for *what*? You really shouldn't continue to use words you
haven't the slightest glimmer of understanding of.

It was a gratuitous insult, the like of which you regularly use in
place of substantive discussion, and which your mommie would wash your
mouth out for using.

Btw, I'm not to have anymore dealings with you. It's
not by my choice or anything. Hell, if it was up to me, I would just
killfile ya for a 'week' or so and then come back and argue with ya.


"Not by your choice," is it?


Not by my choice, like I said; when you get on my nerves I plonk ya for a
week.


So, someone has a gun to your head and is *making* you run away,
pathetic ignorant lying little child?


It's not me dumb ass, its you.


No, pathetic ignorant lying little child: it's *you* that continues to
lie and run from discussions, and it's *you* that throws tantrums when
that fact is pointed out to you.

what -- they won't let you be in the
denier club if you keep getting your head handed to you?


No, nothing to do with revisionism or who believes what. Some people think
you're doing wrong.


Of course, some people also lie to themselves that they are an honest
seeker after truth, when their documented behaviour shows that
protecting their hard-won ignorance and thereby justifying their
irrational hatred is far more important.


Roger do you know how old I am? I may be a little younger than you think.


You couldn't possibly be more immature than your posts have shown you
to be, those being the only basis on which I can base an impression of
your age. None of which even *begins* to refute the fact that you
will continue to run away from actually *learning* anything about the
history you purport to "revise," which means that you will continue to
have to lie and run.

And everyone then has the opportunity to point and laugh at the
pathetic ignorant lying little child throwing another tantrum.

Some may think your a dirty old man.


Some may. Some even may have justification for such a
characterization.

But not you: you are simply trying once again to distract from your
complete inability to do more than throw yourself to the floor and
kick you heels over the several questions your irrational hatred will
not let you answer honestly:

1. How *will* your IP address be found amongst the many hits that
Nizkor gets every day?
2. What, exactly, the ADL would *do* with that IP address?
3. Why would either the ADL or Nizkor care enough about a pathetic
ignorant lying little child to put forth any effort at all in this
regard?
4. Can you cite a *single* instance of any "pushing of hatred" on the
part of Nizkor.
5. Can you document a single survivor of a work camp that had been
made rich by the efforts of Nizkor?
6 Why do you maintain that personages such as weber, irving, and
zundel (who demonstrably *do* make their livings swindling the like of
tommie) do so out of the goodness of their hearts, with no financial
recompense?
7. Why do you completely discount the urge to apologize for
offensive behaviour?
8. What *is* the fascination you deniers have with homoerotic
imagery?
9. Is your mommie really proud of your question about main street?
10. Why did you snip everything you want to pretend you're not
running from?
11. Why do you continue to tell lies avoid talking about the thing
you yourself bring up?
12. When are you going to admit that you have neither the guts nor
the skill to read a text file whose location is fully qualified for
you, protected by someone whose skills you have repeatedly denigrated
(with absolutely no basis for doing so?)

Run away baby -- throw us another tantrum and maybe someone will give
your binkie back...
 




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