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Old August 18th 04, 12:59 PM
xfredwx
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Default The right choice?

This isn't exactly easy for me to say, but I feel like I have to.

I'm 16 and I just found out what really happened to me. I was
circumcised, and yeah, my parents never bothered to tell me that or
tell me why they had it done, and I don't feel comfortable asking
them. Thanks to the internet I got to find out on my own.

I feel sooo violated and sooo angry at them. I honestly can't believe
they let someone do this to me. They actually let someone strap me
down when I was at my most defenseless and most vulnerable and rob me
of normal, functional genitalia. Why didn't they protect me? Why did
they betray me?

Maybe this doesn't matter to most of you, but it matters to me. The
vast majority of men in the world are intact and get to take their
normal, functional organs for granted, but because my parents didn't
give ****, mine got mutilated. I'll never ever get to experience it.
They denied me that, and for what?

I really don't trust them anymore. I have difficulty reconciling these
emotions. If they are my parents and they love me, why would they let
this happen to me? Were they ignorant? Or did they know full well what
they were doing and go ahead anyway to make me "look like daddy" like
I'm some ****ing piece of property instead of person? I honestly don't
know, and I'm not sure I want to.

Now I'm stuck this way for the rest of my life. Great. I'd really like
to forgive them, but I don't think I ever can.

I understand you all want what's best for your children and there's
lots of decisions you'll have to make for them, but this is certainly
not one of them. Please, please, please let him decide what he wants
to do with his body. He's only in your care for a few years, and if
you do this to him he will be STUCK THAT WAY FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE
and if he doesn't like it HE WILL HATE YOU!

The thought of another guy finding this out and having to feel the way
I do right now makes me sick. Please let your son choose!
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Old August 18th 04, 01:33 PM
Jeff
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Can you please take you anticircumsicm debate stuff the news groups who
care?

Jeff


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Old August 18th 04, 03:25 PM
Byron Canfield
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"xfredwx" wrote in message
m...
This isn't exactly easy for me to say, but I feel like I have to.

I'm 16


I doubt it. Mentally, perhaps (or less).



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Old August 19th 04, 01:26 AM
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"Byron Canfield" wrote in message
news:JFJUc.31236$mD.23944@attbi_s02...
"xfredwx" wrote in message
m...
This isn't exactly easy for me to say, but I feel like I have to.

I'm 16


I doubt it. Mentally, perhaps (or less).


I don't think he'd appreciate it that you snipped his post.





(sorry)


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Old August 20th 04, 04:22 PM
Byron Canfield
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"db" wrote in message ...

"Byron Canfield" wrote in message
news:JFJUc.31236$mD.23944@attbi_s02...
"xfredwx" wrote in message
m...
This isn't exactly easy for me to say, but I feel like I have to.

I'm 16


I doubt it. Mentally, perhaps (or less).


I don't think he'd appreciate it that you snipped his post.



LOL! And when he's obviously without the means to make an intelligent
choice -- what a shame!


--
"There are 10 kinds of people in the world:
those who understand binary numbers and those who don't."
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Byron "Barn" Canfield


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Old August 22nd 04, 11:39 AM
Catherine Woodgold
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xfredwx ) writes:
This isn't exactly easy for me to say, but I feel like I have to.

I'm 16 and I just found out what really happened to me. I was
circumcised, and yeah, my parents never bothered to tell me that or
tell me why they had it done, and I don't feel comfortable asking
them. Thanks to the internet I got to find out on my own.

I feel sooo violated and sooo angry at them.

[...]
The thought of another guy finding this out and having to feel the way
I do right now makes me sick. Please let your son choose!


I hear your grief and frustration and I sympathize.

I believe that by posting messages such as yours, you can help
to reduce the number of people who will have to go through
such an experience.
--
Cathy
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Old August 22nd 04, 10:10 PM
Catherine Woodgold
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xfredwx ) writes:
(Catherine Woodgold) wrote in message ...
xfredwx ) writes:
This isn't exactly easy for me to say, but I feel like I have to.

I'm 16 and I just found out what really happened to me. I was
circumcised, and yeah, my parents never bothered to tell me that or
tell me why they had it done, and I don't feel comfortable asking
them. Thanks to the internet I got to find out on my own.

I feel sooo violated and sooo angry at them.

[...]
The thought of another guy finding this out and having to feel the way
I do right now makes me sick. Please let your son choose!


I hear your grief and frustration and I sympathize.

I believe that by posting messages such as yours, you can help
to reduce the number of people who will have to go through
such an experience.


That's the only reason why I posted it! This is so embarrasing to even
talk about, but if I don't it won't stop.


That's courageous of you to post like that.

Maybe one reason you got such a high percentage of hostile
responses might be that the people who would answer sympathetically
are too modest to get into a discussion over the Internet with
a stranger about this sort of topic.

I was thinking of suggesting that if you want more supportive
responses you could try newsgroups such as alt.activism.children
or alt.teens. (Note: alt.teens doesn't welcome crossposted
messages.) However, I see that your purpose is not mainly
to get support but is to warn parents so the same thing
doesn't happen to others. I think you chose the right
newsgroups.
--
Cathy
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Old August 22nd 04, 10:19 PM
Catherine Woodgold
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CBI ) writes:
Because 99% of the time these posts are being made by one of a few
activists posting under a false name just to try to dig this same
tired discussion up again.


There's nothing wrong with being active in trying to make
the world a better place.

There's nothing wrong with being one of a few people who
hold a certain point of view. There's nothing wrong with
expressing one's opinion if one is in the minority.
Actually I think it shows courage, and helps society progress.

There's nothing wrong with using a pseudonym when posting to
a newsgroup. I've been posting under nicknames on some web
fora, to get some privacy when discussing personal matters.
Is your name really "CBI"???!!

People who are tired of a discussion can just skip it.
Many newsreaders have filters or "killfiles" that people can
use to, for example, skip all messages containing the
word "circumcised". People who don't want a discussion
to be long can also help improve things for others who
agree with them by refraining from posting on those
threads.
--
Cathy
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Old August 23rd 04, 04:51 AM
00doc
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Catherine Woodgold wrote:
CBI ) writes:
Because 99% of the time these posts are being made by one

of a few
activists posting under a false name just to try to dig

this same
tired discussion up again.


There's nothing wrong with being active in trying to make
the world a better place.

There's nothing wrong with being one of a few people who
hold a certain point of view. There's nothing wrong with
expressing one's opinion if one is in the minority.
Actually I think it shows courage, and helps society

progress.

Certainly not. However, badgering people who are tired of
the discussion with repetitive posts is probably not a good
tactic. You lose whatever credibility and sympathy you may
have had.


There's nothing wrong with using a pseudonym when posting

to
a newsgroup. I've been posting under nicknames on some

web
fora, to get some privacy when discussing personal

matters.
Is your name really "CBI"???!!


There is nothing wrong with the reasonably consistant use of
a pseudonym. Really, Usenet is by its nature simultaneously
anonymous (because you never really know who is posting any
given post) and not (because it is amazing how the
identities get found out). Anyone who either expects full
anonymity or trusts entirely that they know who is posting
is being naive. We have no idea whether or not you are
really named Catherine and there is no way you could prove
it without resorting to some other media.

However, all that aside, it something is entirely different
to make up a new identity for the purpose of deception.


 




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