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There are many team sports that are customarily IM Observation learned outside school now. For instance, baseball. The kids start with t-ball when they are little, and learn the skills before they are old enough to be embarrassed and when everyone else is a klutz too. Most of my grandsons have been started in Tball when they were kindergarten age or before. Ditto soccer. They can't dribble very well, or shoot or pass, they are just out there running around. Even my youngest two kids did soccer when they were in elementary school, and my ds did football also. I've got a grandson that has been in football, baseball, soccer and basketball. Football wasn't very good for him because he is a big boy for his age and would have to play with older kids with more skills (it's segregated by weight). So I would say that it isn't really necessary to play baseball or most team sports in school. We did have a kind of feeder system for wrestling in the county schools where one of the middle school coaches taught the boys the basics, and the high school that his kids went to had good wrestling teams. There was also some track and field on the middle school level and the PE teachers acted kind of as recruiters. The only sports I was any good at in elementary school were dodgeball and hopscotch. I'm not sure what the knock on dodgeball is - I was really good at the dodging part, and I didn't have to throw the ball much because by the time I was out there were only one or two of us left. I couldn't even jump rope very well and usually volunteered to be an all day ender. I also absolutely could not climb a rope because I didn't have enough upper body strength. I've never learned to dribble a ball without hitting my foot, and I almost flunked softball in college - I totally failed ALL the skill tests, and only passed because I got 100% on the written exam. grandma Rosalie |
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Speaking as a non-athletic sort, this would have been even worse! It's
bad enough to be shuffled to a position where your inadequacies will do as little damage to your team as possible. If you are stuck in a key position, where everyone can REALLY see and concentrate on how bad you are -- and where you have a higher chance of making an error that will cost points for your team -- it is downright humiliating. A Which is yet another important purpose of team sports in PE. Teaching about fair play. Teaching about NOT laughing at your team mates who may be less talented than you are. (When I took vocal music classes in high school the teacher had a standing rule that any student who laughed at another student's performance automatically got an F for the marking period.) About encouraging and helping one another. About doing your best being more important than winning. Naomi CAPPA Certified Lactation Educator (either remove spamblock or change address to to e-mail reply.) |
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(and the laughs and derision when I made an error), I hated
knowing I was no good and not likely to get better . . . And if the teacher permitted laughs and derision, that was his/her fault, and should have been stopped. Naomi Naomi CAPPA Certified Lactation Educator (either remove spamblock or change address to to e-mail reply.) |
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In article ,
"ColoradoSkiBum" wrote: : I hated playing the games, I hated knowing that no one wanted me : on their teams (no matter how the teams were chosen), I hated the : disappointed groans of my team mates when they saw the ball coming : towards me (and the laughs and derision when I made an error), I hated : knowing I was no good and not likely to get better . . . : : I probably ought to add that I was incredibly unpopular in grade school, : and things didn't get better for me until about my last year of high : school. PE was only one arena where that played out, but it gave other : kids LOTS of opportunities to let me know what they thought of me. I don't know how old you are, but I'm betting that those experiences have had an enormous effect on you as an adult. Why would anyone want to put their child through that, just so they can grow up with a complete lack of self-confidence? I'm 51 now, so it's been a while. I think I've mostly gotten over it, to the point where I will risk looking foolish while I try something new. More importantly, perhaps, I frequently do things I'm not very good at in front of the kids with whom I work, and generally enjoy myself. I want them to know that it's OK not to be good at everything, it's OK to try and fail, and it's even OK to have a good time while you lose. However, it takes very little to tap into that humiliated little girl, to remember what it felt like. meh -- Children won't care how much you know until they know how much you care |
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In article , Naomi Pardue says...
Speaking as a non-athletic sort, this would have been even worse! It's bad enough to be shuffled to a position where your inadequacies will do as little damage to your team as possible. If you are stuck in a key position, where everyone can REALLY see and concentrate on how bad you are -- and where you have a higher chance of making an error that will cost points for your team -- it is downright humiliating. A Which is yet another important purpose of team sports in PE. Teaching about fair play. Teaching about NOT laughing at your team mates who may be less talented than you are. (When I took vocal music classes in high school the teacher had a standing rule that any student who laughed at another student's performance automatically got an F for the marking period.) About encouraging and helping one another. About doing your best being more important than winning. All the while you're the material for the 'lesson plan', for the bad sports as well as the good. And you're 'opporunity to be a good sport Exhibit A' for the bad PE teacher as well as the good. banty |
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In article et,
"Amy" wrote: These days, lines in PE are a "no-no" as well as other "old time methods" such as picking teams or using exercise as punishment and of course, the biggest PE no-no of all time, dodgeball! What's dodgeball? I remember incessant softball and volleyball (well, they did more than that, but softball and volleyball seemed to have more time devoted to them than the other sports!) And I should ask you my perennial questions, as you have a professional interest: Can you suggest some good forms of exercise for two unsporty adults with a 2.5yo in tow? Do you know of any coping mechanisms for said unsporty mother when said 2.5yo becomes interested in sporting activities? (I am having trouble coping with throwing the ball in the back yard!) -- Chookie -- Sydney, Australia (Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply) "...children should continue to be breastfed... for up to two years of age or beyond." -- Innocenti Declaration, Florence, 1 August 1990 |
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On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 22:10:37 +1000, Chookie
wrote: What's dodgeball? I remember incessant softball and volleyball (well, they did more than that, but softball and volleyball seemed to have more time devoted to them than the other sports!) Dodgeball is a game where two teams have a ball and try to hit the people on the other team. You are supposed to throw at the area between the shoulders and the knees, but most of us experienced plenty of hits in the head and other places if we were not very quick. The ball used is a soft rubber, but it's not a beach ball and it stings when it hits you if it is thrown hard by someone who is good at aiming and throwing. You are out if you are hit. And the thrower is out if the ball is caught in the air by someone on the other team. The object is to get everyone on the other team out. The last man or team standing is the winner. Most of the kids I knew hated this game. But then we were the ones who were not *quick* and got hit by the ball a lot. There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. The Outer Limits |
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