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Dr. Sarah shrugs as little penises are ripped and sliced en masse.
This post has a happy ending....
DR. SARAH SHRUGS AS LITTLE PENISES ARE RIPPED AND SLICED EN MASSE... British general practitioner Dr. Sarah Vaughan is *also* in effect shrugging as ADULT VAGINAS are sliced en masse - obviously criminally - as other crimes against babies are committed by her fellow medical doctors. Copied to the Tendring Primary Care Trust - THINK PREVENTION! See quote below. The senseless adult vagina slicing is happening there in Britain along with the crimes against babies... Sheesh, OBs are KEEPING birth canals closed the "extra" up to 30% when babies get stuck... Please "steer" your GPs to stop OBs from doing this. Trust inaction is harming babies and costing money. See below... DR. SARAH SHRUGS AS LITTLE PENISES ARE RIPPED AND SLICED EN MASSE... I wrote: I question Sarah's statement that it is true that circumcision prevents penile cancer. Sarah replied: That wasn't my statement. I said that it cut the risk, not that it prevented it entirely. To which I replied: I didn't say you said it prevented it entirely. British general practitioner Dr. Sarah now shrugs: shrug We're using the word 'prevent' in a different sense, then. I understand it as meaning that you stop something from happening altogether, whereas you seem to have used it in this case as meaning that circumcision prevents *some cases of* penile cancer. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...083a7f34c85170 MINOR CORRECTION SARAH: I perceived YOU to have used the word "prevent" in this case to mean that ripping and slicing baby penises prevents some cases of penile cancer. I still don't agree... As I noted in my initial response: According to the www.cirp.org website (no author given)... "The American Cancer Society issued a five part advisory statement on penile cancer in June 1999. Circumcision is not considered to be beneficial in preventing or reducing the risk of penile cancer..." "Abraham Wolbarst's promotional claims that circumcision prevented penile cancer were false and mislead the medical community for decades.30 Circumcision does not prevent penile cancer..." http://www.cirp.org/library/disease/cancer/ Sarah, I am truly biased in this matter - but I think justifiably so. My own penis was ripped and sliced illegally when I was an infant - most American babies had their penises ripped and sliced illegally. For most of my life, I had no idea that, "One-half to one-third of the skin on the...penile shaft is sliced off." http://www.infocirc.org/MensHlth.htm (paraphrasing Ronald Goldman, PhD, author of Circumcision: The Hidden Trauma) "The average circumcision cuts off what would grow into about 12 square inches of sexually sensitive skin." http://www.infocirc.org/MensHlth.htm (quoting Ronald Goldman, PhD, author of Circumcision: The Hidden Trauma) Most American babies are STILL having their penises ripped and sliced illegally as American medicine uses the penile cancer scare tactic to stay out of prison. (I am for pardons in advance for medical doctors for the reason given below.) Massive OBVIOUS child abuse is being committed by your fellow medical doctors here in America. Sarah, shrugging is not appropriate. Blithely saying of the penile cancer scare tactic "It is true" and not mentioning the American medical religion's LIES is not appropriate. Some little boys are losing their LIVES or "just" their penises (that is some little boys are losing ALL of the penis - not "just" the foreskin). Rare as death and loss of penis are, they are TOTALLY unjustified when there are NO MEDICAL INDICATIONS for the mass ripping and slicing. Making most male infants "just" scream and writhe and bleed is also totally unjustified when there are NO MEDICAL INDICATIONS. The next time you think to blithely answer "It is true" in response to a question about the penile cancer scare tactic, please also offer readers American medicine's BALD LIES. See "Some History" below. Anything less just perpetuates the ongoing mass child abuse here in America. AN EXEMPTION FOR THE ANCIENT JEWISH RITUAL: IT LEAVES MOST OF THE FORESKIN ON THE PENIS... As I've noted, I am in favor of an exemption from the child abuse laws for the ancient Jewish ritual that leaves most of the foreskin on the penis. I mention this because, coincidentally, the most recent American medical lie [2004] involves perpetuation of the falsehood that American medicine's TOTAL foreskin amputation is the same as the ancient Jewish ritual that leaves most of the foreskin on the penis. No, I don't think parents who have their babies circumcised are guilty of child abuse. Nor do I think MDs should be prosecuted. MDs should be pardoned in advance: As med students they are TRAINED to perform obvious felonies that are far worse than infant penis ripping and slicing. See Bravo Jan! Do it for the babies! (Midwifery Today editor Jan Tritten) http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3067 SOME HISTORY Back in 1987, there were NO medical indications for routine infant circumcision - the American Academy of Pediatrics was on record three times (1971,1975 and 1983) as having found no medical indications for routine circumcision... Also in 1987, a national study by nurses determined that doctors could not agree as to whether babies feel pain. [J Obstet Gynecol Neonatal Nurs 1987;16(6):387] In late 1987 the American Academy of Pediatrics perpetuated phony "babies can't feel pain" neurology. It was phony LACK OF MYELIN "babies can't feel pain" neurology. ("Lack of myelin" is phony neurology because most of the nervous system never becomes myelinated and unmyelinated fibers are thought to transmit the most excruciating qualities of pain.) BILLIONS OF DOLLARS' WORTH OF INFANT SCREAMS AGO... I called for an end to the obvious mass child abuse and for a religious exemption for Jews... In January 1988, the American Academy of Pediatrics came out against all religious exemptions. In February 1988, the American Academy of Pediatrics came out in favor of anonymity for perpetrators of child abuse. In March 1988, the California Medical Association declared the "no medical indications" surgery "an effective public health measure" - thereby overriding the CMA Scientific Board which had just months previous squashed a nearly identical resolution. In 2000, the American Academy of Pediatrics FINALLY acknowledged that babies can feel pain. But AAP cited a study which *repeated* the phony "lack of myelin neurology - this time to explain why babies resist being strapped down spread-eagled. (Ostensibly, lack of myelin makes babies stiff - but no explanation was given for the fact that babies are not stiff when they are sleeping - which - incidentally - is said to be the reason many circs were begun when babies slept.) As indicated above, recently, the American Academy of Pediatrics perpetuated the fraud that the American medical religion's TOTAL foreskin amputation procedure is the same as the ancient Jewish procedure that leaves most of the foreskin on the penis. See Pediatrician 'ethics' (Attn: Gesundheit et al.) http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2908 Todd Dr. Gastaldo PS1 Sarah, a medical doctor shrugging as infant penises are ripped and sliced en masse is pretty bad, IMO. MDs over here in America are getting some further help in committing their massive child abuse crime - from a SEEMINGLY unlikely source... See NO CIRC voted for circumcision! (Is Jan Tritten the Marilyn Milos of Midwifery?) http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3102 PS2 I indicated above that you are also in effect shrugging as ADULT VAGINAS are sliced en masse - obviously criminally - as other crimes against babies are committed by her fellow medical doctors. When I pointed out you were ignoring the obvious OB lies, you initially indicated that there was nothing you could do - you are a GP. Now I see where one of your fellow British GPs is advising a first-time mother against a homebirth because she is a first-time mother! http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...546939bfe62973 Given your comment that you couldn't do anything because you are not an OB, I thought British GPs had nothing whatsoever to do with birth. I thought it a typo when this woman's husband said she was booking with a GP. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...f8120c928afccb Is it routine for pregnant women in Britain to book with a GP? Sarah, it seems to me that British GPs could have a HUGE effect on birth position - esp.if given The Four OB Lies! When I again pointed out that you were ignoring obvious OBs lies, you blamed my long posts (fair enough)... You wrote: "No ****, Sherlock. Remember me mentioning that I feel your posts get very long to the point where the important bits in what you're saying tend to get lost/obscured? I wasn't kidding. As a veteran of many, many debates that have turned nasty in one way or another, I can genuinely sympathise if you've had to put up with lying opponents." Strangely though Sarah, you indicated that exposing the obstetrician lies "wouldn't make a difference in anyone's birthing position," as in, "I'm just not sympathetic enough to spend hours going through lengthy posts working out who said or did what and what the truth of it all was in order to comment. That wouldn't make a difference to anyone's birthing Position..." http://groups-beta.google.com/group/.../msg/c169babf0... (Some of the text above appeared in a previous post...Biased British GPs? Cyworks/nhsFamilyChoice to help babies? http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3096) Sarah, you are STILL ignoring obvious medical doctor lies. People - particularly young medical doctors - are loathe to help expose huge lies. If you don't want to do anything about the mass child abuse and mass adult abuse (sometimes fatal), then just don't post. Just hang out here with the ladies. I will respect that. But flip me off with another "No **** Sherlock" - and I will want to play some more. : ) As you might have noticed, my game is simply ending a serious LIFE-AND-DEATH grisly medical game - for moms and the little ones inside them. OBs themselves have indicated that closing birth canals FAR LESS than 30% can KILL. Sheesh Sarah, your fellow medical doctors are KEEPING birth canals closed the "extra" up to 30% when babies get stuck. As I wrote to Olivia Gordon of "Cyworks/nhsFamilyChoice": I'm biased... Trained as a doctor of chiropractic, I cringe at the grisly spectacle of obstetricians pulling on tiny spines with hands, forceps or vacuums * with birth canals closed up to 30% - sometimes pulling so hard that spinal nerves are ripped out of tiny spinal cords... HOW can I stop this grisly obstetric travesty? I keep thinking... THE TENDRING PRIMARY CARE TRUST (PCT) "STEERS THE WORK OF GP PRACTICES..." "The NHS spends public money - your money - on health care, treatment and **prevention**...Tendring Primary Care Trust [PCT] aims to deliver better and more responsive health services to improve the health of people in your area. The Trust holds the NHS budget for our local population of 139,000 people. It steers the work of GP practices..." http://www.essex.nhs.uk/documents/gu...ring%20pct.pdf Sarah, DO pregnant women in Britain routinely book with GPs? If so - or regardless - maybe when your baby gets older you will ask your fellow British GPs to help stop the grisly travesties? Maybe you will ask the Tendring Primary Care Trust to "steer" GPs into stopping OBs? I hope so. I'll copy this to the following personnel at Tendring Primary Care Trust (PCT): David Rex Chairman Paul Unsworth Chief Executive Sarah Gallone Complaints and Education Manager Jan Chittock Child Protection Administrative Assistant via Catherine Morgan Communications Manager Tendring Primary Care Trust Canarvon House Canarvon Road Clacton-on-Sea Essex CO15 6QD tel: 01255 206067 A few last notes... As usual, I am in favor of pardons in advance for medical doctors. As med students medical doctors are TRAINED to perform obvious felonies. Sarah, when you watched "lots" of semisitting deliveries, you watched lots of birth canals being closed up to 30%. Perhaps you also watched OBs KEEPING birth canals closed when babies get stuck - keeping women semisitting or dorsal as they pulled with hands, forceps or vacuums? Sheesh, I can't believe it's still happening. Sincerely, Todd ("Sherlock") Dr. Gastaldo PS It's snowing here in Oregon! Hooray! Happy New Year everyone! 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I have had it on good authority from a friend who is a loving mother,
that the most natural, comfortable and easy position was the one in which she chose to give birth. She was leaning forward, leaning on the head of the bed, and the baby came out behind her. Gravity definitely helped - I don't know if it opened the pelvis or not, but she and several others I have been swearing by this way of giving birth. The very sight of stirrups anyway is enough to make me cringe and I certainly wouldn't see it as a comforting or welcoming sight when I'm in full labor. |
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"anyone4tea" wrote in message oups.com... I have had it on good authority from a friend who is a loving mother, that the most natural, comfortable and easy position was the one in which she chose to give birth. She was leaning forward, leaning on the head of the bed, and the baby came out behind her. Gravity definitely helped - I don't know if it opened the pelvis or not, but she and several others I have been swearing by this way of giving birth. Lucy, The uterus uses the baby to open the pelvis (with the help of abdominal musculature). If the mother was off her sacrum (off her back/butt) - and it sounds like she was - then she allowed her pelvis to open the "extra" up to 30%. The very sight of stirrups anyway is enough to make me cringe and I certainly wouldn't see it as a comforting or welcoming sight when I'm in full labor. Stirrups mean woman-on-her-back/butt generally - which means the birth canals is closed the "extra" up to 30%. That's what makes me cringe - plus there is the likelihood (IMO) that being on the sacrum torques the sacroiliac joint the wrong direction and NEUROLOGICALLY inhibits labor. Todd |
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todd, i dont think you are doing your causes any favours using posters names
like this... c "Todd Gastaldo" wrote in message link.net... This post has a happy ending.... DR. SARAH SHRUGS AS LITTLE PENISES ARE RIPPED AND SLICED EN MASSE... British general practitioner Dr. Sarah Vaughan is *also* in effect shrugging as ADULT VAGINAS are sliced en masse - obviously criminally - as other crimes against babies are committed by her fellow medical doctors. Copied to the Tendring Primary Care Trust - THINK PREVENTION! See quote below. The senseless adult vagina slicing is happening there in Britain along with the crimes against babies... Sheesh, OBs are KEEPING birth canals closed the "extra" up to 30% when babies get stuck... Please "steer" your GPs to stop OBs from doing this. Trust inaction is harming babies and costing money. See below... DR. SARAH SHRUGS AS LITTLE PENISES ARE RIPPED AND SLICED EN MASSE... I wrote: I question Sarah's statement that it is true that circumcision prevents penile cancer. Sarah replied: That wasn't my statement. I said that it cut the risk, not that it prevented it entirely. To which I replied: I didn't say you said it prevented it entirely. British general practitioner Dr. Sarah now shrugs: shrug We're using the word 'prevent' in a different sense, then. I understand it as meaning that you stop something from happening altogether, whereas you seem to have used it in this case as meaning that circumcision prevents *some cases of* penile cancer. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...083a7f34c85170 MINOR CORRECTION SARAH: I perceived YOU to have used the word "prevent" in this case to mean that ripping and slicing baby penises prevents some cases of penile cancer. I still don't agree... As I noted in my initial response: According to the www.cirp.org website (no author given)... "The American Cancer Society issued a five part advisory statement on penile cancer in June 1999. Circumcision is not considered to be beneficial in preventing or reducing the risk of penile cancer..." "Abraham Wolbarst's promotional claims that circumcision prevented penile cancer were false and mislead the medical community for decades.30 Circumcision does not prevent penile cancer..." http://www.cirp.org/library/disease/cancer/ Sarah, I am truly biased in this matter - but I think justifiably so. My own penis was ripped and sliced illegally when I was an infant - most American babies had their penises ripped and sliced illegally. For most of my life, I had no idea that, "One-half to one-third of the skin on the...penile shaft is sliced off." http://www.infocirc.org/MensHlth.htm (paraphrasing Ronald Goldman, PhD, author of Circumcision: The Hidden Trauma) "The average circumcision cuts off what would grow into about 12 square inches of sexually sensitive skin." http://www.infocirc.org/MensHlth.htm (quoting Ronald Goldman, PhD, author of Circumcision: The Hidden Trauma) Most American babies are STILL having their penises ripped and sliced illegally as American medicine uses the penile cancer scare tactic to stay out of prison. (I am for pardons in advance for medical doctors for the reason given below.) Massive OBVIOUS child abuse is being committed by your fellow medical doctors here in America. Sarah, shrugging is not appropriate. Blithely saying of the penile cancer scare tactic "It is true" and not mentioning the American medical religion's LIES is not appropriate. Some little boys are losing their LIVES or "just" their penises (that is some little boys are losing ALL of the penis - not "just" the foreskin). Rare as death and loss of penis are, they are TOTALLY unjustified when there are NO MEDICAL INDICATIONS for the mass ripping and slicing. Making most male infants "just" scream and writhe and bleed is also totally unjustified when there are NO MEDICAL INDICATIONS. The next time you think to blithely answer "It is true" in response to a question about the penile cancer scare tactic, please also offer readers American medicine's BALD LIES. See "Some History" below. Anything less just perpetuates the ongoing mass child abuse here in America. AN EXEMPTION FOR THE ANCIENT JEWISH RITUAL: IT LEAVES MOST OF THE FORESKIN ON THE PENIS... As I've noted, I am in favor of an exemption from the child abuse laws for the ancient Jewish ritual that leaves most of the foreskin on the penis. I mention this because, coincidentally, the most recent American medical lie [2004] involves perpetuation of the falsehood that American medicine's TOTAL foreskin amputation is the same as the ancient Jewish ritual that leaves most of the foreskin on the penis. No, I don't think parents who have their babies circumcised are guilty of child abuse. Nor do I think MDs should be prosecuted. MDs should be pardoned in advance: As med students they are TRAINED to perform obvious felonies that are far worse than infant penis ripping and slicing. See Bravo Jan! Do it for the babies! (Midwifery Today editor Jan Tritten) http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3067 SOME HISTORY Back in 1987, there were NO medical indications for routine infant circumcision - the American Academy of Pediatrics was on record three times (1971,1975 and 1983) as having found no medical indications for routine circumcision... Also in 1987, a national study by nurses determined that doctors could not agree as to whether babies feel pain. [J Obstet Gynecol Neonatal Nurs 1987;16(6):387] In late 1987 the American Academy of Pediatrics perpetuated phony "babies can't feel pain" neurology. It was phony LACK OF MYELIN "babies can't feel pain" neurology. ("Lack of myelin" is phony neurology because most of the nervous system never becomes myelinated and unmyelinated fibers are thought to transmit the most excruciating qualities of pain.) BILLIONS OF DOLLARS' WORTH OF INFANT SCREAMS AGO... I called for an end to the obvious mass child abuse and for a religious exemption for Jews... In January 1988, the American Academy of Pediatrics came out against all religious exemptions. In February 1988, the American Academy of Pediatrics came out in favor of anonymity for perpetrators of child abuse. In March 1988, the California Medical Association declared the "no medical indications" surgery "an effective public health measure" - thereby overriding the CMA Scientific Board which had just months previous squashed a nearly identical resolution. In 2000, the American Academy of Pediatrics FINALLY acknowledged that babies can feel pain. But AAP cited a study which *repeated* the phony "lack of myelin neurology - this time to explain why babies resist being strapped down spread-eagled. (Ostensibly, lack of myelin makes babies stiff - but no explanation was given for the fact that babies are not stiff when they are sleeping - which - incidentally - is said to be the reason many circs were begun when babies slept.) As indicated above, recently, the American Academy of Pediatrics perpetuated the fraud that the American medical religion's TOTAL foreskin amputation procedure is the same as the ancient Jewish procedure that leaves most of the foreskin on the penis. See Pediatrician 'ethics' (Attn: Gesundheit et al.) http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2908 Todd Dr. Gastaldo PS1 Sarah, a medical doctor shrugging as infant penises are ripped and sliced en masse is pretty bad, IMO. MDs over here in America are getting some further help in committing their massive child abuse crime - from a SEEMINGLY unlikely source... See NO CIRC voted for circumcision! (Is Jan Tritten the Marilyn Milos of Midwifery?) http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3102 PS2 I indicated above that you are also in effect shrugging as ADULT VAGINAS are sliced en masse - obviously criminally - as other crimes against babies are committed by her fellow medical doctors. When I pointed out you were ignoring the obvious OB lies, you initially indicated that there was nothing you could do - you are a GP. Now I see where one of your fellow British GPs is advising a first-time mother against a homebirth because she is a first-time mother! http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...546939bfe62973 Given your comment that you couldn't do anything because you are not an OB, I thought British GPs had nothing whatsoever to do with birth. I thought it a typo when this woman's husband said she was booking with a GP. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...f8120c928afccb Is it routine for pregnant women in Britain to book with a GP? Sarah, it seems to me that British GPs could have a HUGE effect on birth position - esp.if given The Four OB Lies! When I again pointed out that you were ignoring obvious OBs lies, you blamed my long posts (fair enough)... You wrote: "No ****, Sherlock. Remember me mentioning that I feel your posts get very long to the point where the important bits in what you're saying tend to get lost/obscured? I wasn't kidding. As a veteran of many, many debates that have turned nasty in one way or another, I can genuinely sympathise if you've had to put up with lying opponents." Strangely though Sarah, you indicated that exposing the obstetrician lies "wouldn't make a difference in anyone's birthing position," as in, "I'm just not sympathetic enough to spend hours going through lengthy posts working out who said or did what and what the truth of it all was in order to comment. That wouldn't make a difference to anyone's birthing Position..." http://groups-beta.google.com/group/.../msg/c169babf0... (Some of the text above appeared in a previous post...Biased British GPs? Cyworks/nhsFamilyChoice to help babies? http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3096) Sarah, you are STILL ignoring obvious medical doctor lies. People - particularly young medical doctors - are loathe to help expose huge lies. If you don't want to do anything about the mass child abuse and mass adult abuse (sometimes fatal), then just don't post. Just hang out here with the ladies. I will respect that. But flip me off with another "No **** Sherlock" - and I will want to play some more. : ) As you might have noticed, my game is simply ending a serious LIFE-AND-DEATH grisly medical game - for moms and the little ones inside them. OBs themselves have indicated that closing birth canals FAR LESS than 30% can KILL. Sheesh Sarah, your fellow medical doctors are KEEPING birth canals closed the "extra" up to 30% when babies get stuck. As I wrote to Olivia Gordon of "Cyworks/nhsFamilyChoice": I'm biased... Trained as a doctor of chiropractic, I cringe at the grisly spectacle of obstetricians pulling on tiny spines with hands, forceps or vacuums * with birth canals closed up to 30% - sometimes pulling so hard that spinal nerves are ripped out of tiny spinal cords... HOW can I stop this grisly obstetric travesty? I keep thinking... THE TENDRING PRIMARY CARE TRUST (PCT) "STEERS THE WORK OF GP PRACTICES..." "The NHS spends public money - your money - on health care, treatment and **prevention**...Tendring Primary Care Trust [PCT] aims to deliver better and more responsive health services to improve the health of people in your area. The Trust holds the NHS budget for our local population of 139,000 people. It steers the work of GP practices..." http://www.essex.nhs.uk/documents/gu...ring%20pct.pdf Sarah, DO pregnant women in Britain routinely book with GPs? If so - or regardless - maybe when your baby gets older you will ask your fellow British GPs to help stop the grisly travesties? Maybe you will ask the Tendring Primary Care Trust to "steer" GPs into stopping OBs? I hope so. I'll copy this to the following personnel at Tendring Primary Care Trust (PCT): David Rex Chairman Paul Unsworth Chief Executive Sarah Gallone Complaints and Education Manager Jan Chittock Child Protection Administrative Assistant via Catherine Morgan Communications Manager Tendring Primary Care Trust Canarvon House Canarvon Road Clacton-on-Sea Essex CO15 6QD tel: 01255 206067 A few last notes... As usual, I am in favor of pardons in advance for medical doctors. As med students medical doctors are TRAINED to perform obvious felonies. Sarah, when you watched "lots" of semisitting deliveries, you watched lots of birth canals being closed up to 30%. Perhaps you also watched OBs KEEPING birth canals closed when babies get stuck - keeping women semisitting or dorsal as they pulled with hands, forceps or vacuums? Sheesh, I can't believe it's still happening. Sincerely, Todd ("Sherlock") Dr. Gastaldo PS It's snowing here in Oregon! Hooray! Happy New Year everyone! 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Dr. Sarah shrugs as little penises are ripped and sliced en masse. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3104 Christine "Mamma Mia" replied: "todd, i dont think you are doing your causes any favours using posters names like this..." http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...be88fd7215689a Christine, You may be right. But (did I mention?) OBs are KEEPING birth canals closed the "extra" up to 30% when they pull with hands, forceps and vacuums - sometimes pulling so hard that spinal nerves are ripped out of tiny spinal cords. Yet medical doctor Sarah is still ignoring the lies... Some babies die - some are paralyzed - most "only" have their spines gruesomely wrenched. This gruesome spinal manipulation is occuring thousands of times per day. As a doctor of chiropractic, I have a special obligation to speak out. All *medical* doctors - including our own British general practitioner Sarah Vaughan - have an ethical obligation to expose obvious medical lies and thereby PREVENT unnecessary suffering/unnecessary surgeries. Yet medical doctor Sarah is still ignoring the lies... This is a massive obstetric CRIME that sometimes causes babies loss of life or loss of limb. It is obstetric criminal negligence - OBVIOUS obstetric criminal negligence that sometimes escalates to criminally negligent homicide. OBs themselves have indicated that closing the birth canal FAR LESS than 30% can KILL. I simply didn't believe Sarah when she said there was nothing she could do about OB behavior because she is a GP. I still don't believe her - esp. not now that I read about the pregnant British woman booking with a British GP who is advising against homebirth. See again: Dr. Sarah shrugs as little penises are ripped and sliced en masse. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3104 As I noted, perhaps when Sarah's baby gets older and she gets back to work as a GP, she will start working on PREVENTION. Perhaps Sarah's employer - Tendring Primary Care Trust - will take action before Sarah does - perhaps when Sarah goes back to work as a GP, she will be "steered" to warn women about about OBs are doing... Tendring Trust spends on prevention and "steers" GPs... THE TENDRING PRIMARY CARE TRUST (PCT) "STEERS THE WORK OF GP PRACTICES..." "The NHS spends public money - your money - on health care, treatment and **prevention**...Tendring Primary Care Trust [PCT] aims to deliver better and more responsive health services to improve the health of people in your area. The Trust holds the NHS budget for our local population of 139,000 people. It steers the work of GP practices..." http://www.essex.nhs.uk/documents/gu...ring%20pct.pdf The Trust that employs Sarah "steers" GPs and "spends" on prevention. THAT is the primary reason I named her. Christine, I don't think you do my cause any favours by publicly suggesting that I should not respond to British GP Sarah Vaughan by name when she ignores medical doctor lies and blithely shrugs as infant penises are ripped and sliced en masse. I think everyone on the newsgroup should be asking the British GP why she is ignoring the obvious OB lies. I think everyone on the newsgroup should be asking the British GP if she REALLY thinks it's legal for OBs to lie and close birth canals up to 30% and keep birth canals closed the "extra" up to 30%. I think everyone on the newsgroup should be asking the British GP what she intends to do about the FACT that - whereas SHE learned about the "extra" up to 30% - many women never hear about it - and those that do have to ASK their obstetricians for it. A major obstetric crime is occurring. The time for "nice" is long past. Besides, I *am* being nice - to babies. Sincerely, Todd PS I keep thinking about that recent video on Dr. Phil of the woman whose boy was paralyzed - the midwife was pulling on the baby's head with the woman on her back. Arrrggghhh. I wonder what it feels like to have a spinal nerve ripped out of the spinal cord? Some babies are having this and worse happen to them as Sarah the British GP ignores the medical doctor lies and flips me off with a "No **** Sherlock" and now a shrug. Medical doctor silence - medical doctor SARAH VAUGHAN silence - THAT is a big part of what is making it so that women have to ASK obstetricians for the "extra" up to 30%. An email from Sarah to Tendring Primary Care Trust - cc'd to me and misc.kids.pregnancy - would do me wonders and MIGHT kick off some action finally. Sarah could say: Todd's right - The Four OB Lies are pretty obvious - and so are the grisly biomechanics of semisitting delivery. Simple no? I noted some of the OB lies in an Open Letter to the FTC years ago... http://home1.gte.net/gastaldo/part2ftc.html THE FOUR OB LIES... OB LIE #1. After MASSIVE change in the AP pelvic outlet diameter was clinically demonstrated in 1911 and radiographically demonstrated in 1957, the authors of Williams Obstetrics began erroneously claiming that pelvic diamaters DON'T CHANGE at delivery. OB LIE #2. After Ohlsen pointed out in 1973 that pelvic diameters DO change - the authors of Williams Obstetrics began erroneously claiming that their most frequent delivery position - dorsal - widens the outlet. OB LIE #3. After I pointed out in 1992 that dorsal CLOSES - and so does semisitting - the authors of Williams Obstetrics - put the correct biomechanics in their 1993 edition - but kept in their text (in the same paragraph!) - the dorsal widens bald lie that first called my attention to their text... OB LIE #4. OBs are actually KEEPING birth canals closed when babies get stuck - and claiming they are doing everything to allow the birth canal open maximally. (ACOG Shoulder Dystocia video - also forceps and vacuum births are performed with the mother in lithotomy.) See Make birth better: Dan Rather, before you leave CBS... http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2983 Sorry to have disappointed you Christine. Feel free to retract your support publicly. I can take it. Same goes for the various other women who have expressed support. Sarah could have just remained silent about matters medical and just hung out with the ladies. If she remains silent about "my causes," I will not mention her name again. I hope she doesn't remain silent. I hope she finally speaks out - to Tendring Primary Care Trust - and copies me and misc.kids.pregnancy. Women shouldn't have to ASK their obstetricians for the "extra" up to 30%. Medical doctor silence as babies suffer needlessly is plain wrong. Sincerely, Todd |
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In message .net, Todd
Gastaldo writes major snippage Sarah, shrugging is not appropriate. Blithely saying of the penile cancer scare tactic "It is true" and not mentioning the American medical religion's LIES is not appropriate. Quoting me out of context is not appropriate either. I specifically stated, in the post in question, that I did _not_ regard the penile cancer scare tactic, as you aptly describe it, as a reason to circumcise babies routinely. From the post in its entirety, it was also clear that I was siding with the OP, a woman who did not want her son to undergo a routine circumcision. I have made it clear both in that same thread and elsewhere on this ng in the past that I am against routine infant circumcision. As for the shrug, that was in response to the fact that we seemed to have had a minor mutual misunderstanding about a detail of the debate, and was not, repeat, *not* in response to the fact that the American medical profession apparently considers it appropriate to leave it up to parents to decide whether to have skin removed forcibly from their children's genitals for spurious reasons. The comment on reduced penile cancer rates was in accordance with what I've previously read in medical sources. Established medical wisdom has been wrong on subjects enough times before that it wouldn't surprise me greatly if you were right and the information I'd previously read was wrong, and, if so, I'm happy to accept that. I am not, however, happy to accept you quoting me out of context and titling your post in such a way that it appears that I support a position on circumcision that I have made it quite clear that I vehemently oppose. Sarah -- "I once requested an urgent admission for a homeopath who had become depressed and taken a massive underdose" - Phil Peverley |
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Well said, Sarah.
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I disagree. : )
"anyone4tea" wrote in message oups.com... Well said, Sarah. |
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That's fine, Todd, I don't mind disagreements... when they are about
trivial things. Online communication is a blessing... but a curse when communication is misconstrued. Todd, you have some excellent opinions and many of us applaud your efforts to raise awareness of the issues with which you are concerned. Sarah agrees with you. If you have agreement with others, you may not wish to turn them off supporting your cause, or you, by going after them after miscommunication. Take a chill pill |
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"anyone4tea" wrote in message ups.com... That's fine, Todd, I don't mind disagreements... when they are about trivial things. Online communication is a blessing... but a curse when communication is misconstrued. Todd, you have some excellent opinions and many of us applaud your efforts to raise awareness of the issues with which you are concerned. Sarah agrees with you. If you have agreement with others, you may not wish to turn them off supporting your cause, or you, by going after them after miscommunication. Take a chill pill well said c |
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