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Burned by our drinking water? (Hydrofluoric acid: The burn thatkeeps on burning until...)
BURNED BY OUR DRINKING WATER?
See HOLY STOMACH ACID, BATMAN! Below. Paul Connett, PhD, please see QUESTIONS below. HYROFLUORIC ACID: THE BURN THAT KEEPS ON BURNING Hydrofluoric acid hurts when it burns - and hurts as it KEEPS burning - under the skin...until it finds an ion like calcium... According to Charles Stewart, MD, FACEP: "[T]he fluoride leaches calcium from all available tissues, a process that can cause decalcification of bone and systemic hypocalcemia." Steve B. Harris, MD indicates that a rather small hydrofluoric acid burn can kill. (See below.) Apparently calcium will put out the fluoride fire/burn on the skin - but once the fluoride fire goes THROUGH the skin - it keeps burning - which requires INJECTIONS of calcium... See FULLER EXCERPT Charles Stewart, MD, FACEP "Chemical Injuries to the Skin"...below. INTERESTING: "Many household aluminum brighteners or rust removal agents..contain [hydrofluoric acid]..." BURNED BY OUR DRINKING WATER? Hydrofluoric Acid vs. Fluoride Ion QUESTIONS for Paul Connett, PhD... Paul: Steve B. Harris, MD (quoted below) says rather emphatically that fluoride ION is not absorbed by the skin. Is this true? IF TRUE, does this mean that fluoride ion is not absorbed AT ALL - that "only" the hydrofluoric acid (HF) is absorbed via the outside the body? Does fluoride ion pass into the body INTERNALLY - or (again) is it "only" the hydrofluoric acid that gets through gut/intestinal and lung/respiratory epithelium? See your FAN/FAQ Question #8 quoted below... Steve says: "At a pH of 5.5 (the lowest you're likely to get in tap water)...the log of the ratio of F- to HF is [pH-pKa] which is 5.5-3.5 = 2, so there's 100 times more flouride ion F- than there is HF. And since the flouride ion concentration is 1 part per million, that means the HF concentration is one part in a 100 million or 0.01 ppm..." http://groups-beta.google.com/group/ alt.conspiracy/msg/6c12710cf650e9fc? "FLUORIDATION" APPEARS TO ME TO BE AN EXTREMELY LOW CONCENTRATION (0.01 ppm) HYDROFLUORIC ACID CHEMICAL BURN INSIDE AND OUTSIDE OUR BODIES... The body puts out the fluoride fire in its tissues using calcium... Again quoting Charles Stewart, MD, FACEP: "[T]he fluoride leaches calcium from all available tissues, a process that can cause decalcification of bone and systemic hypocalcemia." Regarding fluoride skin absorption... You say in your Fluoride Action Network/FAN (my comments are interspersed #####)... Question #8: If I take a shower with fluoridated water, will the fluoride enter through my skin? FAN has yet to see any direct evidence to verify this concern. If you are aware of any such evidence, please let us know. #### Paul, I don't know how direct his evidence for HF getting in - but Steve is pretty direct about saying that fluoride ION does NOT pass through the skin. ##### Paul/FAN continues... It is important to keep in mind, however, that the extent to which fluoride makes its way through the skin depends to a large extent on the acidity of the water. It is clear, for instance, that fluoride in highly acidic water can enter the skin. #### This accords with what Steve B. Harris, MD wrote - though - again - he says only hydrofluoric acid gets through. #### Paul/FAN continues... It is unclear, though, whether fluoride in water with a neutral acidity, such is the case with most tap water, can do the same thing... #### This must be the answer to my INTERNAL fluoride absorption question. The fluoride that is of so much concern to anti-fluoride activists MUST be absorbed by gut/intestinal and lung/respiratory epithelium because if it's "only" hydrofluoric acid that is absorbed - simply consuming only neutral pH drinking water would solve most of the problem, right? ##### Paul/FAN concludes... One issue that warrants further research, however, is the extent to which hot water may facilitate the passage of fluoride through the skin via the opening of the skin's pores. FAN is aware of no evidence supporting or negating this possibility. http://www.fluoridealert.org/faqs.htm#Q8 HOLY STOMACH ACID BATMAN! STOMACH ACID IS GOING TO YIELD MORE HYDROFLUORIC ACID FROM TAP WATER... I just found this on Paul's FAN website: "Ingested fluoride is transformed in the stomach to hydrofluoric acid, which has a corrosive effect on the epithelial lining of the gastrointestinal tract. Thirst, abdominal pain, vomiting, and diarrhea are usual symptoms. Hemorrhage in the gastric mucosa, ulceration, erosions, and edema are common signs." SOURCE: Environmental Protection Agency. (1999). Recognition and Management of Pesticide Poisonings. 5th Edition. (Available online) http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/gi/ Hydrofluoric acid attacking the GI tract is going to burn through tissue till it finds calcium or some other ion, right? Fortunately, there's plenty of calcium in most diets and in most bodies... And the fluoride makes it into bone - but those hip fractures... I'd still like to know whether fluoride (the ion) passes through gastrointestinal cells... CANCER I wonder how "fluoride" (hydrofluoric acid?) causes cancer... I've been wondering about this more because this month (June 2005) the Environmental Working Group is saying there is maybe more bone cancer in boys from fluoridation. How does THAT work? http://ewg.org/issues/fluoride/20050606/index.php Our own Environmental Protection Agency/EPA fired Dr. William Marcus, PhD for saying stuff like... "Fluoride is a carcinogen by any standard we use. I believe the EPA should act immediately to protect the public, not just on the cancer data but on the evidence of bone fractures, arthritis, mutagenicity and other effects." *- Dr. William Marcus, PhD, EPA scientist writing in the Food and Water Journal, Summer, 1998 http://aquasafe.us/AquaSafe-Action.htm In 1992, Dr. Marcus got fired by EPA... In 1994, because he sued, Dr. Marcus got his EPA job back... http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/...p/marcus2.html WHAT IF THE FLUORIDE POLLUTERS GOT BUSY? What if they started an anti-fluoride campaign designed to make sure fluoridation ended "nicely" - without district attorneys and attorney generals PROSECUTING the rather obvious mass battery? Why aren't the most prominent anti-fluoride protesters mentioning the fact that common law indicates that it is a CRIME to medicate without consent? WHAT IF THE MOST PROMINENT ANTI-FLUORIDE ACTIVISTS ARE WORKING FOR THE FLUORIDE POLLUTERS? Why the silence about the common law/crime aspect? In May 2000 the Fluoride Action Network (FAN) was formed by a coalition of activists and scientists from 12 countries (see: http://www.fluoridealert.org). FAN's goal is to end fluoridation and minimize exposure to fluoride. FAN's founding members include the late David Brower; Teddy Goldsmith; Michael Colby; Gar Smith; Terri Swearingen; the union representing professional employees at EPA headquarters; and Dr. Hardy Limeback, Canada's leading dental authority on fluoridation who in 1999 apologized for having promoted fluoridation for 15 years. In 2000, there was also the Masters and Coplan "It's the lead/arsenic - use pure sodium fluoride stupid" study. (Anti-fluoride protesters are in effect telling courts that fluoridation can be made much BETTER - by using "pharmaceutical grade" fluoride. See the very end of this post.) In 2001, there was the QUILES faucet fraud, rubberstamped by the Florida Supreme Court... A FLUORIDE FUNNY... Even if it were to be proven that fluoride CURES cancer, common law indicates it is the crime of battery to administer it without consent ATTENTION PAUL CONNETT, PhD... I mention this "fluoride funny" again Paul, because you repeatedly ASK if it is OK to mass medicate without consent in your famous 50 REASONS essay. When I telephoned last year to ask why you were silent about the fact that common law indicates medication without consent is a CRIME - you went silent and gave me the email address of QUILES attorney Doug Balog who - citing QUILES - told me that the medication without consent is NOT a crime. (At the end of our conversation last year, since the UCLA chemistry department had not contacted you regarding my $1000 donation to you to get a UCLA chemistry professor to your conference, you asked if you could use my $1000 donation to UCLA to bring others to your first annual anti-fluoride extravaganza - and I said yes - and you later told me that my $1000 helped get Virginia Brown to the affair. As you may know, Virginia supports you in your silence. I discuss Virginia further below.) I think it rather incredible Paul that when I brought up the common law indicates it's a CRIME notion - you initially said there is no money for attorneys. As I noted for you last year - if (SINCE) it's a crime - it means FREE attorneys! The California Supreme Court wrote in the 1993 case of Daniel Thor v. The Superior Court of Solano County 93 C.D.O.S. 5658: "The common law has long recognized this principle: A physician who performs any medical procedure without the patient's consent commits a battery irrespective of the skill or care used." [Thor at 5659] It's a SLAM DUNK - and we can use HUMOR to educate the public until those FREE ATTORNEYS (district attorneys) finally take action. It IS pretty funny that it looks like its been a CRIME all along! See LAUGH it out of the water! (also: Virginia heard from Paul Connett?) http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3604 It's getting the FREE ATTORNEYS to prosecute that is the trick - and the best way to do that is to start TALKING about the common law/crime aspect. So why the silence, Paul? NOTE: Steve B. Harris, MD recently said (rather arrogantly) in response to my notion that medication without consent is a crime: "Without enforcement, there is no law. Without law, there is no crime...These are elementary principles. Get an adult to explain them to you." http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3663 If no one talks about the common law/crime aspect there will be no enforcement. Paul, do you agree with QUILES attorney Doug Balog who promotes the Florida Supreme Court's 2002 rubberstamping of QUILES? Do you agree with the QUILES argument that fluoridation is not medication because Florida cities are fluoridating faucets, not bloodstreams? Why have you not attacked the QUILES faucet fraud? Why are you still silent about the fact that common law indicates that medication without consent is a crime? Since you ASK in your 50 REASONS essay whether medication without consent is OK. Why not amend your 50 REASONS essay and mention the common law/crime notion - and the QUILES faucet fraud? In regard to these latter questions Paul, did you get any of my emails? See for example: Virginia's apology - it's a start (copied to Paul Connett, PhD) http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3616 Copied to: Paul Connett, PhD via , , VIRGINIA BROWN, PRESIDENT OF PINELLAS (FLORIDA) CITIZENS FOR SAFE WATER/CSW Virginia recently wrote on the Yahoo Fluoride Discussion Group: I think Paul Connett would be the one to answer these scientific questions, though I am not sure that he is highly educated in Naturapathic expertise. I know that chlorine will enter your body through your dipped finger immediately! From what we received the toxins in the hydroflurosilicic acid are absorbed both through the skin, and the vapors from the hot shower as we breathe, more than 50 %. I do not have the reference for that in front of me. I would have to look the references up to validate that.As a naturapath student, I know that everything we put on the skin is absorbed and enters the bloodstream. Most people haven't got a clue, including some scientists! I don't think they put the 2 plus two together to realize the way the body works. I think it is just a lack of awareness. I do not know of substances that are not absorbed when placed on the skin. Certain substances clog the pores,certain oils. Olive oil does not clog the pores. You could ask Paul about this. He may or may not know the answers to every point, but may know some on the science and chemistry aspect. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fluoride/message/2271 Virginia, I am not sure to whom you were responding. I did not recognize your "science of things" subject line as being from a previous poster and you did not include any text from a previous post. Maybe you were responding to me? I did post recently about Fluoride Skin Absorption - here is the URL... http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3663 You mentioned asking Paul Connett, PhD about "the science and chemistry aspect." As you may remember, Paul Connett, PhD is silent about the CRIME aspect - and you support Paul in his silence... See again: Virginia's apology - it's a start (copied to Paul Connett, PhD) http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3616 Inspite of Paul's silence about the crime aspect, I have asked him about fluoride skin absorption... See above. Debra Lynn Dadd (author of Home Safe Home dld123.com) found research evidence that fluoride is absorbed through the skin... She responded to my post: "I did quite a bit of research about flouride skin absorption when I was writing the new edition of my book Home Safe Home (dld123.com). I did find evidence that it is absorbed through the skin. I would have to dig up that research. But I had thought for years that it was not absorbed and apparently it is." Again, Steve B. Harris, MD says rather emphatically that fluoride does NOT pass through the skin - because it is an ION - but that hydrogen fluoride does pass through the skin - the more acidic the water the more hydrogen fluoride available to pass through the skin. See Steve's COMMENT below. ------ Forwarded Message From: "Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com" Organization: http://groups.google.com Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,misc.health.alternative,sci.med,tal k.politics.medicine,alt.sk incare.acne Date: 18 Jun 2005 18:48:16 -0700 Subject: Fluoride Skin Absorption The lack of information regarding the absorption by skin is particularly disturbing as recent research has uncovered hundreds of papers in the European literature regarding the use of fluorides as effective anti-thyroid medication, including bath therapy. Between 1932 and 1962 Gorlitzer von Mundy cured over 650 patients suffering from hyperthyroidism (over-functioning thyroid gland) effectively with baths containing hydrogen fluoride (HF). After first conductiong over 1500 trials on mice and tadpoles, he prescribed 20-minute full baths containing 30 ccm of concentrated HF per 200 liters of water. Temperature was mostly 36º Celsius.It took on average 15 baths to completely cure the patients, who also gained 20 kg of weight as a result. He warned that such treatment should only be applied to hyperthyroid patients, for to apply such measures to euthyroid (normal) people would surely lead to hypothyroidism. COMMENT: Flouride (F- ion) is not absorbed through the skin, since it's an ION. However, the study above was done using HF (hydrofluoric acid) which is a well-known and very insidious weak acid, precisely BECAUSE it stays undissociated to a large extent at pH's lower than its pKa of 3.5, and thus presents significant amounts of undissociated HF. This molecule is lipid soluble and DOES pass through skin and tissues, where it causes all kinds of damage by complexing with Ca+2. This is why a concentrated HF burn to only 2% of your body (a 5 or 6 inch square patch on your chest, say) can be FATAL. It doesn't happen in an hour or even a day. But you're dead all the same if you don't get very painful and specific treatment. A bath in which 20 grams of HF is added to 200 L of water would give you a pH of about 3, and only about a quarter of the HF would ionize to F- and H+. The rest would remain as HF, and be available for skin absorption at a concentration of approximately 4 mM, or perhaps a bit less (I'm too lazy to do the exact quadratic). That's 80 mg/L or 80 ppm of HF undissociated. Not fatal, but (as the article indicates) enough body flouride absorption to have systemic effects. By contrast, at a pH of 5.5 (the lowest you're likely to get in tap water) things are quite different. Now the log of the ratio of F- to HF is [pH-pKa] which is 5.5-3.5 = 2, so there's 100 times more flouride ion F- than there is HF. And since the flouride ion concentration is 1 part per million, that means the HF concentration is one part in a 100 million or 0.01 ppm. Compare with 80 ppm in the medicinal bath. You could expect HF concentrations in tabwater therefore only 1/8000th or so of the low pH HF therapeutic baths. And I suppose a correspondingly smaller effect. But you cannot say that NONE will be absorbed. SBH NOTE: I am assuming that Steve's "hydrogen fluoride" is the same as hydrofluoric acid. My chemistry is shaky, I'm embarrassed to say... Charles Stewart, MD, FACEP says "fluoride ions may enter" in "Chemical Injuries to the Skin": "...fluoride ions may enter the body through the skin or any mucous membrane, including the respiratory and gastrointestinal system. Damage is not due to the hydrogen ion but results from release of toxic fluoride ions." http://www.hypertension-consult.com/...xtbook/124_che micalinjuries.htm NOTE: Charles says fluoride "ions" enter the skin but then he says that "damage results from release of toxic fluoride ions" - which indicates to me (in accord with Steve's words) that fluoride ions do NOT pass through the skin... HYDROFLUORIC ACID: THE BURN THAT KEEPS ON BURNING... Apparently calcium puts out the fluoride fire on skin - but once the fluoride fire goes THROUGH the skin - it keeps burning - which requires INJECTIONS of calcium... FULLER EXCERPT Charles Stewart, MD, FACEP "Chemical Injuries to the Skin"... Hydrofluoric Acid Burns HF is used in the glass and semiconductor industries as an etching agent, in the plastic industries for production of various plastic materials, and as a solvent for uranium. Many household aluminum brighteners or rust removal agents also contain HF.22,23 [Citing 22. Flood S. Hydrofluoric acid burns. Am Fam Physician 1988;37:175-182; and 23. Trevino MA, Herrmann GH, Sprout WL. Treatment of severe hydrofluoric acid exposures. J Occup Med 1983;25:861-863.] General Principles. From a clinical toxicology perspective, HF is important because it can produce extensive tissue damage, even at low concentrations. Moreover, it can result in potentially lethal systemic manifestations. Although HF causes caustic injury to the skin, it is less caustic than hydrochloric or sulfuric acids. Solutions containing HF in a concentration greater than 50% will produce immediate pain and apparent tissue destruction. HF solutions with a concentration in the range of 20-50% will produce clinical signs of injury within hours of exposure. On the other hand, injuries will not be apparent for up to 24 hours with solutions of less than 20%.23-29 Finally, fluoride ions may enter the body through the skin or any mucous membrane, including the respiratory and gastrointestinal system. Damage is not due to the hydrogen ion but results from release of toxic fluoride ions. From a pathophysiological point of view, fluoride ions cause a breakdown in all calcium-dependent reactions in the cell membrane,30 a process that results in liquefaction necrosis of the skin and subcutaneous tissues. Without specific treatment, damage will progress over many hours, because the fluoride ions are not neutralized by the normal body defenses against acids or bases. Because the salts continue to be bioactive, the fluoride ions must be inactivated by combining them with other cations, including calcium and magnesium, which will form insoluble and nontoxic salts with fluoride anions.31 All other salts are soluble and dissociate completely, thereby permitting continued diffusion of ions into the tissues. In addition, it should be stressed that if calcium is not available from an exogenous source, it will be leached from the patient's bony calcium deposits, a process that can produce life-threatening hypocalcemia. Presentation. Topical exposure to HF is associated with extensive skin damage, including deep tissue destruction. Most exposures involve the skin, eyes, respiratory tract, or oral mucosa; even rectal exposure has been documented.32 The initial presentation usually consists of pain at the site of the exposure, which is uniformly described as excruciating, particularly after exposure to solutions with greater than 20% concentration. Regional nerve blocks may be required for relief. Local erythema and edema also may be present. As the injury progresses, erythema and edema progress to blanching. Bullae denote a more severe burn that requires aggressive treatment. A grossly necrotic area may develop with subsequent tissue sloughing and a very slowly healing lesion. In severe cases, bone injury may be present and severe decalcification may be noted. HF burns have caused systemic hydrofluorosis with subsequent death.33-35 Initial Treatment. Immediately after exposure, the affected area should be flooded with copious amounts of water at low pressures. All clothing and shoes can be removed in the shower to decrease the possibility of further contamination to both patient and staff. If there is evidence of skin damage, including erythema, the assumption can be made that the skin has been penetrated by fluoride ions, which will require inactivation. It is equally appropriate to assume that all skin spills are still contaminated and that the patient will develop additional injury if these areas are not treated. Before proceeding with decontamination, the physician must ensure that he or she is adequately protected against HF exposure. Either butyl rubber or nitrile gloves and apron are recommended and should be worn. Shoe covers will decrease both ³tracking² and contamination. All contaminated clothing and bedding should be placed in heavy plastic garbage bags and labeled. The involved skin should be copiously flushed with running water while further preparations are in progress. In particular, nail beds and skin folds must be scrupulously cleansed. All bullae and vesicles should be aspirated to remove fluoride-containing fluids. Care must be taken not to spill the aspirate on any other part of the skin. Finally, the lesions should be debrided. Topical Agents. After the area has been flooded with water for at least 30 minutes, any remaining fluoride ions can be ³fixed² with the application of magnesium oxide, calcium chloride, or calcium gluconate solutions or topical ointments. Unfortunately, there is no convincing evidence that any of the these compounds produce significant tissue penetration. Despite all of the manufacturers' claims, the inactivated complex with fluoride in deep tissues simply will not be formed if the solution or ointment doesn't penetrate deeply enough to bind with free fluoride ions.36 Consequently, once the fluoride has penetrated the skin, topical agents generally will no longer be effective. If calcium chloride or gluconate gel is used, however, the residual fluoride will combine with the calcium and probably will neutralize any residual fluoride still on the skin.37 This reaction will produce insoluble calcium fluoride which precipitates and clouds the clear gel. These cloudy areas mark neutralization of fluoride deposits,30 which prevent further damage, making topical therapy worthwhile even if deep penetration into tissue fails to occur. Local Infiltration. After debridement of lesions, 10% calcium gluconate can be injected into the burn to further bind the fluoride ions. This slow and painful process deposits calcium directly into the tissues and eventually provides pain relief. About 0.5 mL of solution should be injected intradermally for every square centimeter of tissue damage. The injection is extended about 0.5 cm into the margins of the burn to bind ions that may have already migrated to this distal location.22,23,25,26 To ease the pain of injection, a 27- or 30-gauge needle should be used and the area should be infiltrated slowly. Unfortunately, the volume of calcium gluconate that can be administered is limited to only 0.5 cc per injection. This severely restricts the amount of calcium that can be injected therapeutically at one sitting. Recurrence of the pain is an indication of further fluoride ion migration and necessitates an additional injection. Caution is advised, however, because multiple injections may contribute to local tissue ischemia. Calcium chloride is corrosive and should not be used for local infiltration.38 Intra-arterial Infusion. Intra-arterial calcium may provide better distribution and less tissue distention than injections into the burn. The arterial catheter should be placed in the distribution system. Arterial infusion of calcium may provide relief from burns to the fingertips without loss of either nail or distal finger.39,40 Calcium may be infused as either the gluconate or chloride over four hours.41 If the patient complains of continued pain, additional calcium may be infused. Dressings and Topical Agents. After the injection of calcium, the area may be covered with a topical agent. Topical agents that have been used include calcium gluconate or chloride gels and soaks, magnesium oxide gel, paste, or soaks, and benzethonium and benzalkonium chloride soaks. Magnesium oxide dressings are less expensive and easier to obtain but are not as effective as calcium-based dressings.26,27 Calcium chloride soaks may also be used. Some authors recommend 2.5% calcium gluconate in a gel vehicle, but further clinical trials are indicated before advocating this more costly therapy.28 A mixture of 2.5-5.0% calcium gluconate in KY jelly may be used as an inexpensive alternative.29 Some authorities also recommend the use of quaternary ammonia compounds such as Hibiclens or Zephiran. These ammonia compounds have a dubious effect upon fluoride skin poisoning.23,42 They may also tend to irritate sensitive skin tissues like the face or eye. HF can rapidly penetrate the nail bed and destroy the underlying nail bed and matrix. Infiltration of calcium ions into the subungual spaces is extremely painful and may cause vascular compromise in the restrictive space between nail and nail bed. When ungual areas are involved in a HF burn, the affected nail must usually be excised under regional anesthesia. Removal of the nail will allow regeneration after the injury. The wound must be inspected frequently to determine whether there is any further damage. Recurrence of pain is an indication for reinspection and reinjection. A fluoride burn should always be reinspected at 24-hour intervals, no matter how small or innocuous it seems. Surgical debridement may be necessary to prevent continued necrosis or if the exposure is in an inaccessible area.32 Systemic Complications. (See Table 3.) Skin burns with HF may be associated with significant systemic absorption of fluoride ions. Systemic toxicity can also occur with ingestion of sodium fluoride and inhalation of HF vapors.43 As earlier noted, the fluoride leaches calcium from all available tissues, a process that can cause decalcification of bone and systemic hypocalcemia. Table 3. Signs of Acute Systemic Fluoride Toxicity Hypotension Bradycardia, followed by tachycardia Prolongation of the QT interval Ventricular fibrillation (often intractable) Respiratory depression Pulmonary edema Seizures CNS depression Carpopedal spasm or tetany (not often found) Hypocalcemia, hypomagnesemia Coagulation disorders (rare) The precipitous drop in serum calcium has been implicated in fluoride-induced sudden death and may be more life-threatening than the burn damage.34,44 The first sign of hypocalcemia is a profound bradycardia with a prolonged QT interval, which usually occurs within 30-45 minutes after exposure. Accordingly, patients who are suspected of having this complication should be admitted to a telemetry unit to monitor for QT prolongation and possible dysrhythmias, as ventricular fibrillation may soon follow. This dysrhythmia may respond to high doses of intravenous calcium and surgical excision of the burn wound.45 Death may also be caused by respiratory distress due to airway edema.46 Several authors have reported use of massive doses of calcium salts for relief of hypocalcemia.47 If there is evidence of systemic fluorosis or the possibility of inhalation injury, the patient should be admitted to the hospital and observed for at least 24 hours. Monitoring of liver function studies, renal function studies, electrolytes, and serial serum calcium levels is indicated .23 Ocular Injuries. HIT solution or vapor in or around the eye causes more extensive damage than other acids in similar concentrations. Deep penetration and liquefaction necrosis make HF especially destructive to the eye. Eye burns should be treated with immediate and copious irrigation immediately after exposure. A Morgan contact irrigating lens is well suited for this procedure. Eyelid spasm may be decreased by use of tetracaine or other ophthalmologic anesthetic solutions.22 Following this irrigation, a l% calcium gluconate solution in isotonic sodium chloride can be used as drops and instilled every 2-3 hours.23 Other authors feel that only irrigation with water, isotonic saline solution, or magnesium chloride solutions offered therapeutic benefit.24,48 Prompt ophthalmologic consultation is essential. http://www.hypertension-consult.com/...xtbook/124_che micalinjuries.htm END FULLER EXCERPT Charles Stewart, MD, FACEP "Chemical Injuries to the Skin"... A few last notes for Virginia Brown, President, Pinellas Citizens for Safe Water/CSW... Again, you wrote: "I think Paul Connett would be the one to answer these scientific questions, though I am not sure that he is highly educated in Naturapathic [sic] expertise." I am not sure what naturopathy has to do with anything - other than the fact that naturopaths - like toxicologists and many others - are no doubt interested in the absorption of toxic substances. Virginia, last year you assured me that you would bring up at CSW meetings the fact that common law indicates that medication without consent is a battery - in children battery is child abuse - but you didn't. This year, you supported Paul Connett, PhD in his silence about common law indicating that medication without consent is a battery. See again: Virginia's apology - it's a start (copied to Paul Connett, PhD) http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3616 This year you said you would discuss the QUILES faucet fraud at your next CSW meeting. Did you at least discuss the QUILES faucet fraud at your recent CSW meeting? I saw where Tom Nocera's "pro-pharmaceutical grade mass battery" lawsuit got a lot of attention at your recent (June 18?) CSW meeting. As I've previously noted: The fluoride polluters must LOVE it when anti-fluoride protesters sue to get PURE "pharmaceutical grade" fluoride into their drinking water. The attorney in the Escondido, Calif. Lawsuit actually says in his brief that the lawsuit is not about fluoridation! Yeah, go for mass battery with the pure stuff with Tom Nocera¹s lawsuit - and hope that Pinellas County can¹t afford the pure stuff. But what if that ³pure stuff² strategy was ³canned-in-advance² to give anti-fluoride protesters something ³constructive² to do to keep their minds ON Paul Connett¹s favored VOTE-IT-OUT strategy and OFF the fact that common law indicates that fluoridation without consent is a CRIME * mass battery? Again Virginia, did you at least discuss the QUILES faucet fraud at your recent CSW meeting? For anyone who hasn't read the QUILES faucet fraud... See Florida fluoride is for faucets * not people! http://groups-beta.google.com/group/ misc.kids.pregnancy/msg/864b9d151f31e678 Alternate URL: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/2667 Thanks for reading everyone. Sincerely, Todd Dr. Gastaldo Hillsboro, Oregon This email will be posted for global access in the Google usenet archive. Search http://groups.google.com for "Burned by our drinking water? (Hydrofluoric acid: The burn that keeps on burning)" |
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