Vent: solids and a 6 mo

Oh dear,
The *&^% date on my computer has rearranged itself again ... sorry. I've
fixed in the computer (I hope) but any ideas on how to fix it on the
message?


Amanda




"A&G&K" wrote in message
...
My friend's DD is just over 6 mo and was introduced to solids a few weeks
ago. That is fine by me, but maybe its the benefit of hindsight telling
me
the following is just plain stupid....
This baby is on several different kinds of mushed fruits and veges
(including broccoli and cauliflower which I personally would wait a bit
longer to introduce). They are being introduced at the rate of 1 new food
per day (way too quickly for me).
My particular worry is that my friend plans on introducing toast fingers
with avocado *next week*. This child gets to suck on raw carrot, apple
and
celery (also a big *no* from me). My friend thinks that because her DD
has
no teeth, she couldn't possibly choke on anything as she has "no capacity
to
bite anything off". I've told her that my DD didn't get teeth until she
was
9-10 mo and had no problems gnawing things to death (including furniture).
They shovel food into this girl whether she wants it or not (I tried
explaining that when she repeatedly spits food back and gags on it, she's
not being "naughty" ... she just *ain't* ready yet).
The big rush is that my friend went back to work last week and they left
it
until 2 weeks ago to try to get their DD to drink ebm from a bottle or a
sippy cup.The father is looking after the child during the day. The baby
has been just waiting it out for her mother to come home in the evenings
(about 7 hours later) for a feed (or a drink). ... and its 30 degrees
Celsius here at the moment so dehydration is a real factor.

Now, I have tried to tell her that pushing solids faster is not the answer
and I'd be experimenting a bit more with bottles, sippy cups or anything
that could get some ebm into the child, but my friend is very strong
willed
and is *always* right. I've said that perhaps she should delay her return
to work for another week or two (hovering in the wings and letting Daddy
feed the baby emb anyway he could). I even suggested that the father
could
drive their DD into my friend's work for emergency bf if its going to be a
7
hour wait between feeds.
What else can I do?

Amanda

--
DD 15th August 2002
1 tiny angel Nov 2003

I've cancelled the message so I hope that works ... will resend another day
when this one disappears ...
sorry sorry sorry
Amanda


"A&G&K" wrote in message
...
Oh dear,
The *&^% date on my computer has rearranged itself again ... sorry. I've
fixed in the computer (I hope) but any ideas on how to fix it on the
message?


Amanda




"A&G&K" wrote in message
...
My friend's DD is just over 6 mo and was introduced to solids a few
weeks
ago. That is fine by me, but maybe its the benefit of hindsight telling
me
the following is just plain stupid....
This baby is on several different kinds of mushed fruits and veges
(including broccoli and cauliflower which I personally would wait a bit
longer to introduce). They are being introduced at the rate of 1 new
food
per day (way too quickly for me).
My particular worry is that my friend plans on introducing toast fingers
with avocado *next week*. This child gets to suck on raw carrot, apple
and
celery (also a big *no* from me). My friend thinks that because her DD
has
no teeth, she couldn't possibly choke on anything as she has "no
capacity
to
bite anything off". I've told her that my DD didn't get teeth until she
was
9-10 mo and had no problems gnawing things to death (including
furniture).
They shovel food into this girl whether she wants it or not (I tried
explaining that when she repeatedly spits food back and gags on it,
she's
not being "naughty" ... she just *ain't* ready yet).
The big rush is that my friend went back to work last week and they left
it
until 2 weeks ago to try to get their DD to drink ebm from a bottle or a
sippy cup.The father is looking after the child during the day. The
baby
has been just waiting it out for her mother to come home in the evenings
(about 7 hours later) for a feed (or a drink). ... and its 30 degrees
Celsius here at the moment so dehydration is a real factor.

Now, I have tried to tell her that pushing solids faster is not the
answer
and I'd be experimenting a bit more with bottles, sippy cups or anything
that could get some ebm into the child, but my friend is very strong
willed
and is *always* right. I've said that perhaps she should delay her
return
to work for another week or two (hovering in the wings and letting Daddy
feed the baby emb anyway he could). I even suggested that the father
could
drive their DD into my friend's work for emergency bf if its going to be
a
7
hour wait between feeds.
What else can I do?

Amanda

--
DD 15th August 2002
1 tiny angel Nov 2003

I always feel sorry for babies with Moms that don't know what there doing.
The only thing you can do is offer advice and hope she listens a little.
Give her some books maybe.
Kris



"A&G&K" wrote in message
...
My friend's DD is just over 6 mo and was introduced to solids a few weeks
ago. That is fine by me, but maybe its the benefit of hindsight telling
me
the following is just plain stupid....
This baby is on several different kinds of mushed fruits and veges
(including broccoli and cauliflower which I personally would wait a bit
longer to introduce). They are being introduced at the rate of 1 new food
per day (way too quickly for me).
My particular worry is that my friend plans on introducing toast fingers
with avocado *next week*. This child gets to suck on raw carrot, apple
and
celery (also a big *no* from me). My friend thinks that because her DD
has
no teeth, she couldn't possibly choke on anything as she has "no capacity
to
bite anything off". I've told her that my DD didn't get teeth until she
was
9-10 mo and had no problems gnawing things to death (including furniture).
They shovel food into this girl whether she wants it or not (I tried
explaining that when she repeatedly spits food back and gags on it, she's
not being "naughty" ... she just *ain't* ready yet).
The big rush is that my friend went back to work last week and they left
it
until 2 weeks ago to try to get their DD to drink ebm from a bottle or a
sippy cup.The father is looking after the child during the day. The baby
has been just waiting it out for her mother to come home in the evenings
(about 7 hours later) for a feed (or a drink). ... and its 30 degrees
Celsius here at the moment so dehydration is a real factor.

Now, I have tried to tell her that pushing solids faster is not the answer
and I'd be experimenting a bit more with bottles, sippy cups or anything
that could get some ebm into the child, but my friend is very strong
willed
and is *always* right. I've said that perhaps she should delay her return
to work for another week or two (hovering in the wings and letting Daddy
feed the baby emb anyway he could). I even suggested that the father
could
drive their DD into my friend's work for emergency bf if its going to be a
7
hour wait between feeds.
What else can I do?

Amanda

--
DD 15th August 2002
1 tiny angel Nov 2003

Well it's like the old saying, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't
make them drink. Give her the information, but your going to have to let her
raise her own child the way she sees fit. I personally would back off. You
don't like it when people want you to do things to your baby that you are
not comfortable with, so why should she.

I personally don't see why so many on this board get so worked up over
solids. It's not like she is starting really early.
--
Sue (mom to three girls)
I'm Just a Raggedy Ann in a Barbie Doll World...

A&G&K wrote in message
...
My friend's DD is just over 6 mo and was introduced to solids a few weeks
ago. That is fine by me, but maybe its the benefit of hindsight telling
me
the following is just plain stupid....
This baby is on several different kinds of mushed fruits and veges
(including broccoli and cauliflower which I personally would wait a bit
longer to introduce). They are being introduced at the rate of 1 new food
per day (way too quickly for me).
My particular worry is that my friend plans on introducing toast fingers
with avocado *next week*. This child gets to suck on raw carrot, apple
and
celery (also a big *no* from me). My friend thinks that because her DD
has
no teeth, she couldn't possibly choke on anything as she has "no capacity
to
bite anything off". I've told her that my DD didn't get teeth until she
was
9-10 mo and had no problems gnawing things to death (including furniture).
They shovel food into this girl whether she wants it or not (I tried
explaining that when she repeatedly spits food back and gags on it, she's
not being "naughty" ... she just *ain't* ready yet).
The big rush is that my friend went back to work last week and they left
it
until 2 weeks ago to try to get their DD to drink ebm from a bottle or a
sippy cup.The father is looking after the child during the day. The baby
has been just waiting it out for her mother to come home in the evenings
(about 7 hours later) for a feed (or a drink). ... and its 30 degrees
Celsius here at the moment so dehydration is a real factor.

Now, I have tried to tell her that pushing solids faster is not the answer
and I'd be experimenting a bit more with bottles, sippy cups or anything
that could get some ebm into the child, but my friend is very strong
willed
and is *always* right. I've said that perhaps she should delay her return
to work for another week or two (hovering in the wings and letting Daddy
feed the baby emb anyway he could). I even suggested that the father
could
drive their DD into my friend's work for emergency bf if its going to be a
7
hour wait between feeds.
What else can I do?

Amanda

--
DD 15th August 2002
1 tiny angel Nov 2003

"Sue" wrote in message
...
Well it's like the old saying, you can lead a horse to water, but you
can't
make them drink. Give her the information, but your going to have to let
her
raise her own child the way she sees fit. I personally would back off. You
don't like it when people want you to do things to your baby that you are
not comfortable with, so why should she.

I personally don't see why so many on this board get so worked up over
solids. It's not like she is starting really early.
--
Sue (mom to three girls)
I'm Just a Raggedy Ann in a Barbie Doll World...

Thanks Sue,
The reason I won't back off is that I am worried about the child ... it was
35 degrees CELSIUS here yesterday ... far too hot for a 6 mo to go *7 hours*
without liquid!
The other reason is that this particular friend is always telling everyone
else how to do things ... ... so I think its important she doesn't get so
used to the sound of her own voice that she fails to see that her child may
be in danger of dehydration. I figure that if she is so happy to give
advice, then she has to have it both ways, and listen to others as well.

I will always intervene if I think a child's health is in danger.

Cheers
Amanda

--
DD 15th August 2002
1 tiny angel Nov 2003

"K.B." wrote in message
ink.net...
I always feel sorry for babies with Moms that don't know what there doing.
The only thing you can do is offer advice and hope she listens a little.
Give her some books maybe.
Kris


Its a bit more like prizing "babywise" out of her hands. (Mind you, I have
not bothered to read that book so I can't really comment on its content ....
I have read a lot of negative reviews of it though).

I should gather my info from the clinic nurse (quite good material is
printed by our State govt health dept) and give her that. What I'd really
like is to get her to come and talk to my clinic sister / LC / counsellor /
all-round great person .... Chris .... she gives great advice, is very pro
bf and is also a shoulder to cry on if you need it. Unfortunately she's on
hols at the moment.

If only the weather wasn't so hot at the moment I wouldn't be so worried.

Cheers
Amanda

Hi -

Tell your friend a scary story about a toothless baby who choked on a
carrot. Make SURE your friend and her husband know how to do an infant
Heimlich manoeuver. And most of all, have your friend discuss what the
infant is getting with her ped.

The tight spacing between the introduction of new solids isn't nearly as
big an issue. The only reason for it is so parents can tell WHICH food
is bothering baby if an allergy/intolerance develops, not to prevent an
allergy/intolerance. The choke hazard issue is the biggie. (Cooked,
mushed carrots are fine, just not raw ones.)

Babies survive a lot of sub-optimal behaviors. It's the dangerous ones
you need to watch out for, so just concentrate on that.

--Beth Kevles

http://web.mit.edu/kevles/www/nomilk.html -- a page for the milk-allergic
Disclaimer: Nothing in this message should be construed as medical
advice. Please consult with your own medical practicioner.

NOTE: No email is read at my MIT address. Use the AOL one if you would
like me to reply.

That's not the only reason to do it. If you introduce too many new foods
into short of a time frame, especially when they've only just begun solids,
it can cause their systems to go out of wack, causing major constipation or
on the other side, vomitting and diarrhea, which might not be a reaction to
the foods themselves, but rather all of the new stuff that their bodies
haven't learned to digest yet. So it's just nice for the digestive system
to be able to take time to learn how to digest the new foods before going on
to the next one.

On the subject of raw foods, babies aren't supposed to have them raw for
some reason, they must be cooked, regardless of how they're served (whole or
mushed)

The tight spacing between the introduction of new solids isn't nearly as
big an issue. The only reason for it is so parents can tell WHICH food
is bothering baby if an allergy/intolerance develops, not to prevent an
allergy/intolerance. The choke hazard issue is the biggie. (Cooked,
mushed carrots are fine, just not raw ones.)

Babies survive a lot of sub-optimal behaviors. It's the dangerous ones
you need to watch out for, so just concentrate on that.

--Beth Kevles

http://web.mit.edu/kevles/www/nomilk.html -- a page for the
milk-allergic
Disclaimer: Nothing in this message should be construed as medical
advice. Please consult with your own medical practicioner.

NOTE: No email is read at my MIT address. Use the AOL one if you would
like me to reply.

Tell your friend a scary story about a toothless baby who choked on a
carrot. Make SURE your friend and her husband know how to do an infant
Heimlich manoeuver.

I inhaled some carrot when I was, oh, dunno, a year and a bit. They'd given it
to me to play with more than to eat, and I was staggering around the kitchen
gnawing bits off. It was apparently a pretty nasty business. The babysitter
turned me upside down and thumped me or something and it came up again, but
apparently I was in definite danger, not just gagging.

--Helen

"Mom2Aries" wrote in message news:fTKFb.619473$HS4.4527534@attbi_s01...
On the subject of raw foods, babies aren't supposed to have them raw for
some reason, they must be cooked, regardless of how they're served (whole or
mushed)

Are you sure? Both my pedi and a book I have say raw fruits are okay
with being careful about choking hazards.

KC