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Moving to another state
Kari wrote in message ... Just for a laugh and to compare, we have a 3 bedroom, 2 full bath one story home, 1400 square feet of living space. 0.62 acres of land. 2 car garage, full unfinished basement. We do have a lot of pluses, like central air, central vac, very large deck, sprinkler system outside, very nice outdoor shower, 2 person jacuzzi in the master bath, 2 gas fireplaces, and a hot tub outside. Still, our house is small; and the realtor recommended listing it for $330,000. Can you believe that? Yikes! Or that may be good for you guys if you can sell it for that! Right, if we can, we'll have a very low mortgage where we're heading. We'll be able to put a lot down. I forgot to mention that we have a pool too, and a huge wraparound deck that is connected to the pool/house off the sliding glass door. And a fireplace too. I love our yard, we have a great yard that is totally off the road and is very nicely landscaped - it was that way when we bought it so we were lucky. Everyone has told us we got a great deal even around here with real estate being dirt cheap. Of course Im ready to move 5 miles up the road to a house on the bay but we'll see how that goes!! Wow, your house sounds great! Thanks Kari! We're actually heading up to the northern New Hampshire/Eastern Vermont border area. We did look into your area a bit, but we're more famiar with the NE, so I think we'll stick around here. That sounds great. We were looking into relocating to Vermont for awhile about a year ago. South eastern Vermont, my husband had a job offer out in Brattleboro I think it was and I thought it looked great! Or course he didn't take it, he was worried about political problems..with all the treehuggers (for lack of a better word) out there with him working at a nuclear power plant...you get the idea He heard horror stories from some of the other guys about protests in front of the plant and in town and I didnt think that was too great for our kids if their father worked at a place that most people in town wanted shut down. And we ARE pretty treehuggerish ourselves so no offense to anyone by the way Kari I remember that, and was wondering if you were going to go. We love Vermont. laurie mommy to Jessica, 27 months and Christopher, 12 weeks *This email address is now valid* |
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H Schinske wrote in message ... Laurie wrote: Just for a laugh and to compare, we have a 3 bedroom, 2 full bath one story home, 1400 square feet of living space. 0.62 acres of land. 2 car garage, full unfinished basement. We do have a lot of pluses, like central air, central vac, very large deck, sprinkler system outside, very nice outdoor shower, 2 person jacuzzi in the master bath, 2 gas fireplaces, and a hot tub outside. Still, our house is small; and the realtor recommended listing it for $330,000. Can you believe that? Sure. In Seattle, depending on condition, neighborhood, and architectural style, you might well get $50K or $100K more than that! It would almost surely be at least as much as you quote, unless it had some other drawback, like being a really ugly style or on a busy street. --Helen No kidding, my brother lives in Seattle and the real estate is even worse there, since you get very little land! And no, though it's ranch it's quite pretty (more like a contemporary, doesn't look like a ranch) and it's on a nice quiet street, 0.3 miles to a pond and in a town with the best school system around. laurie mommy to Jessica, 27 months and Christopher, 12 weeks *This email address is now valid* |
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Rosalie B. wrote in message ... x-no-archive:yes Wendy Marsden wrote: Laurie wrote: We're mostly likely going to NH, possibly VT. We looked seriously into VT last year, but didn't find exactly what we wanted. What do you mean by "services'? Have you thought about western RI? We lived there and it was very nice a rural, but close enough to the city that we got city advantages too. I think it's still pretty expensive there, though. (though not as bad as where we are now) laurie mommy to Jessica, 27 months and Christopher, 12 weeks *This email address is now valid* New Hampshire has no sales tax and no personal income tax. You do the math. Anyone with a special needs kid moves across the border. Real estate taxes are truly incredible, too. I only live 20 miles south of New Hampshire and I can tell you that there is a different culture to NH, more of an anti-establishment ethos, like why they don't have a helmet law. It's truly a "live free or die" mentality, except I usually call it "live free AND die." I suppose it appeals to people, but not to me. I've lived in Vermont, both in the Northeast Kingdom and in Burlington, and worked for a few years in Brattleboro. I wouldn't hesitate to go back. Wendy grandma Rosalie |
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Laurie ) wrote:
And no, though it's ranch it's quite pretty (more like a contemporary, doesn't look like a ranch) and it's on a nice quiet street, 0.3 miles to a pond and in a town with the best school system around. I didn't mean *your* house might be ugly, I'm sure it's not! I just meant to compare prices for a house with those specs in general ... :-) --Helen |
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"Laurie" wrote: Rosalie B. wrote in message ... Laurie wrote: We're mostly likely going to NH, possibly VT. We looked seriously into VT last year, but didn't find exactly what we wanted. What do you mean by "services'? Have you thought about western RI? We lived there and it was very nice a rural, but close enough to the city that we got city advantages too. I think it's still pretty expensive there, though. (though not as bad as where we are now) I think that depends on what you call western RI. We lived in Summit (post office Greene since Summit was too small to have it's own PO) just across the border from CT in Coventry township. It was very rural. We sold our house there (5 bedrooms 2.5 baths, fireplace and pond) for $28K in 1974 and it took us 6 months or so to sell it. grandma Rosalie |
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:38:05 GMT, "E"
wrote: now we're trying to figure out how to swing things and daycare. seems I would just be handing daycare my paycheck, so seems a lot of work for nothing PLUS I lose time with my DD! unfortunately, I don't have the kind of job I can do from home either, and my commute is at least 45 minutes. hah - this started out to be a laugh, sorry about the self-pity party Edith You know, this is why I think anyone who is thinking about going back to work needs to really carefully look at the expenses and whether or not the paycheck is going to actually help them make ends meet. I know that the first year I went back to work full time, almost the entire check went to daycare, the clothing I needed to work and other expenses I would not have had if I had been staying home. When this situation arises, perhaps you can rethink whether or not you can hold off working until your children are older (after school daycare should certainly be less expensive than all day care for toddlers and preschool children). I don't know the solution, but we are not likely to get daycare costs to come down given that we are paying very low wages to the workers in such situations already. -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. Outer Limits |
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"Laurie" wrote in
: Wendy Marsden wrote in message ... Laurie wrote: We're mostly likely going to NH, possibly VT. We looked seriously into VT last year, but didn't find exactly what we wanted. What do you mean by "services'? New Hampshire has no sales tax and no personal income tax. You do the math. Anyone with a special needs kid moves across the border. Real estate taxes are truly incredible, too. I noticed that they're higher than in the NE part of VT, but they're terrible where I am, too. I think the taxes in my town are one of the highest in the state. this is very true & getting worse. NH is currently without a budget also. the govenor has cut special services by over 2 mil this year & it was underfunded *before* the cuts. my little guy is in speech therapy, but i'm putting him in Montessori preschool when he hits 3 because the state program preschool is depressing (broken toys, puzzles missing pieces... basicly freebie yard sale cast-offs) and crowded (over 30 kids in a developmental delays class?) & i feel it would cause regression in his social skills, where he's just *starting* to lose his fear of other people. he'd be lost there. he handles one on one with his speech & occupational therapists great now, and does well in a playgroup with 3-5 other kids (and 2-3 adults). he's still overwhelmed by large groups though. *we're* considering moving to upstate NY, since land prices are *so* much lower, as are real estate taxes ( i'm a farmer. anything with more than 30 acres in NH is pushing 5 figures now)... after factoring my income taxes/sales taxes in NY vs. my income taxes & property taxes in NH, i'll come out a bit ahead in NY and, yes, there *are* income taxes in NH. they tax the heck out of capital gains. i love VT, but so do all the NYC & NJ people and they've pushed property prices through the roof I only live 20 miles south of New Hampshire and I can tell you that there is a different culture to NH, more of an anti-establishment ethos, like why they don't have a helmet law. It's truly a "live free or die" mentality, except I usually call it "live free AND die." I suppose it appeals to people, but not to me. actually, that is one thing i like about NH. no one even looks twice when i have purple hair... ok, purple streaks in flaming red hair, although now it'd be in getting very grey hair i have a friend who has been a biker for over 25 years. he doesn't wear a helmet because he *would* rather die than break his neck & be paralyzed. i don't like his logic, but it's his life... heh, i have a nice farm for sale in southern NH... lee -- It is paradoxical that many educators and parents still differentiate between a time for learning and a time for play without seeing the vital connection between them. -Leo Buscaglia, author (1924-1998) |
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toto wrote: On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:38:05 GMT, "E" wrote: now we're trying to figure out how to swing things and daycare. seems I would just be handing daycare my paycheck, so seems a lot of work for nothing PLUS I lose time with my DD! unfortunately, I don't have the kind of job I can do from home either, and my commute is at least 45 minutes. hah - this started out to be a laugh, sorry about the self-pity party Edith You know, this is why I think anyone who is thinking about going back to work needs to really carefully look at the expenses and whether or not the paycheck is going to actually help them make ends meet. I know that the first year I went back to work full time, almost the entire check went to daycare, the clothing I needed to work and other expenses I would not have had if I had been staying home. When this situation arises, perhaps you can rethink whether or not you can hold off working until your children are older (after school daycare should certainly be less expensive than all day care for toddlers and preschool children). I don't know the solution, but we are not likely to get daycare costs to come down given that we are paying very low wages to the workers in such situations already. Unfortunately, the other thing you may need to consider is the "long view" of your career. In many fields, if you take several years away, you are never able to return -- or if you do, you will be returning many steps below where you left. In my case, the economics were very clear: putting two infants and a 3 yo in daycare would cost so much that what little I might clear after child care expenses would certainly have been eated up (and then some) by the expense of maintaining a professional wardrobe and by the costs for commuting. It did, however, cost me that particular career. In the long run, I don't regret it in the least, and am quite happy in my current career (though the pay bites, I love the work.) However, the long range effect on your career should also be considered. meh -- Children won't care how much you know until they know how much you care |
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:38:05 GMT, "E"
wrote: now we're trying to figure out how to swing things and daycare. seems I would just be handing daycare my paycheck, so seems a lot of work for nothing PLUS I lose time with my DD! Have you actually sat down and calculated how much you were *actually* making? I mean, after daycare, after traveling expenses, after take out meals (both lunch and dinner), etc. You may find that you are making nothing. If you are, you could stay at home, and you would be working to pay for daycare. -- ==Daye== Momma to Jayan #2 EDD 11 Jan 2004 E-mail: brendana AT labyrinth DOT net DOT au |
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:54:22 -0500, toto
wrote: You know, this is why I think anyone who is thinking about going back to work needs to really carefully look at the expenses and whether or not the paycheck is going to actually help them make ends meet. This is why I am a SAHM. If I went to work, we would not be that much ahead. I think I worked it out to be about $20 a week or something. I am NOT going to go through all that hassle for $20 a week in the end. Plus, my DD would be in daycare. I would rather be at home with her. -- ==Daye== Momma to Jayan #2 EDD 11 Jan 2004 E-mail: brendana AT labyrinth DOT net DOT au |
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