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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
"Paul Anderson" wrote in message ... On Fri, 4 May 2007 13:15:09 -0700, "DB" wrote: "Robert" wrote in Abortion is not murder, that's one of many of your lies. Abortion avoids a unwanted baby, saved from being abused. LOL, so how do you "avoid" a baby that is already conceived and is a living being? You lie to support the lie. Conception is merely a point in the human reproduction cycle. There is not baby at conception, nor for many months later if at all. A baby is an infant or a young child; an infant is A child in the first period of life, beginning at his birth. Until there is a birth, there is no child, no living being. Which is why abortion is not and never has been considered to be murder (except by Pro-Lifers, and then only for the purpose of opposing abortion.) So how do you explain the Violence Against Unborn Children Act and the fact 34 states has statutes making it illegal to kill an unborn child? Abortion is court sanctioned murder that exempts mothers and doctors who legally terminate the unborn child's rights. When anyone other than a mother or doctor terminates an unborn child's legal rights, it is considered a crime. |
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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
On Fri, 4 May 2007 13:15:09 -0700, "DB" wrote:
"Robert" wrote in Abortion is not murder, that's one of many of your lies. Abortion avoids a unwanted baby, saved from being abused. LOL, so how do you "avoid" a baby that is already conceived and is a living being? At some point, you do have to end it's life right? No, you terminate the pregnancy, before there is a baby. preferably before the embryo attaches to the uterus. The morning after pill, is almost ideal. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
On Fri, 4 May 2007 13:53:01 -0700, "DB" wrote:
"Paul Anderson" wrote in period of life, beginning at his birth. Until there is a birth, there is no child, no living being. Oh, so I guess ripping the legs and arms off a living & growing being is OK with your conscience? That's fine, nobody said you were moral! Regardless of what you want to call a fetus, you still have to kill it to end it's life, right? End of civility, because of your persistent lying. No, you dumb **** life began's at birth. A abortion doesn't kill a baby, because babies have been born. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
On May 4, 2:55 pm, "Bob Whiteside" wrote:
"Paul Anderson" ...... Conception is merely a point in the human reproduction cycle. There is not baby at conception, nor for many months later if at all. A baby is an infant or a young child; an infant is A child in the first period of life, beginning at his birth. Until there is a birth, there is no child, no living being. Which is why abortion is not and never has been considered to be murder (except by Pro-Lifers, and then only for the purpose of opposing abortion.) So how do you explain the Violence Against Unborn Children Act Pro-Life fantasy. There is no such act. and the fact 34 states has statutes making it illegal to kill an unborn child? Since abortion is legal in all 50 states, another Pro-Life fantasy. What is a fact is that abortion is not and never has been considered murder in any legal jurisdiction anywhere and anytime. Abortion is court sanctioned murder You continue to post this lie that exempts mothers and doctors who legally terminate the unborn child's rights. When anyone other than a mother or doctor terminates an unborn child's legal rights, it is considered a crime. well DUH!! The killing an unborn child against the wishes of the woman has been a crime for at least 3,000 years. That law is Pro- Choice -- Pro-Choice supports the woman's right to choose to carry to term. Killing an unborn child against her wishes is a Pro-Life position. |
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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
"Paul Anderson" wrote in Without birth, there is no separate life. Ask yourself why you are forced to constantly lie to promote the "Pro-Life" agenda. It's not a pro-life agenda, common sense says that to end life you have to kill it. You people have sanitized this vile act to the point where you actually believe your own tripe. Mate, I could care less what you do with your own family, seems a dog has more rights than your own unborn. I'm sure for you It's no different than squashing a bug under your shoe and you scrape it off with little thought to its' existence. We were all put on this earth for a reason, who are you to decide the fate of all future generations? |
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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
"Bob Whiteside" wrote in is no child, no living being. Which is why abortion is not and never has been considered to be murder (except by Pro-Lifers, and then only for the purpose of opposing abortion.) So how do you explain the Violence Against Unborn Children Act and the fact 34 states has statutes making it illegal to kill an unborn child? http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/relea...0040401-3.html The state seems to recognise that unborns have a soul! Abortion is court sanctioned murder that exempts mothers and doctors who legally terminate the unborn child's rights. Yes, nomatter how they slice it, dice it or chop it into pieces to kill thenew life being, it's still murder. Just because it's legal, doesn't make it right! |
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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
wrote in message oups.com... On May 4, 2:55 pm, "Bob Whiteside" wrote: "Paul Anderson" ..... Conception is merely a point in the human reproduction cycle. There is not baby at conception, nor for many months later if at all. A baby is an infant or a young child; an infant is A child in the first period of life, beginning at his birth. Until there is a birth, there is no child, no living being. Which is why abortion is not and never has been considered to be murder (except by Pro-Lifers, and then only for the purpose of opposing abortion.) So how do you explain the Violence Against Unborn Children Act Pro-Life fantasy. There is no such act. You are correct - I misspoke. The correct name for the law is the Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004. and the fact 34 states has statutes making it illegal to kill an unborn child? Since abortion is legal in all 50 states, another Pro-Life fantasy. What is a fact is that abortion is not and never has been considered murder in any legal jurisdiction anywhere and anytime. Your statement above is not true. Abortion was considered a crime before Roe v. Wade. Many jurisdictions classifed that crime as murder. Abortion is court sanctioned murder You continue to post this lie Not true. Abortions were court sanctioned by judcial activists who clearly stated they didn't know where the right to privacy could be found in the Constitution but they felt there should be a right to privacy. There is no legal argument to support this stance and Justice Blackmun who wrote the Roe v. Wade decision acknowldged that fact. The U.S. Supreme Court overstepped its authority by creating public policy (normally a function of the Congress) for abortion. Whether you call it murder, infanticide, or a medical procedure, abortions are a court only sanctioned event. that exempts mothers and doctors who legally terminate the unborn child's rights. When anyone other than a mother or doctor terminates an unborn child's legal rights, it is considered a crime. well DUH!! The killing an unborn child against the wishes of the woman has been a crime for at least 3,000 years. That law is Pro- Choice -- Pro-Choice supports the woman's right to choose to carry to term. Killing an unborn child against her wishes is a Pro-Life position. The killing of an unborn child against the wishes of the mother has just recently become a crime. Pro-Choice advocates aggressively argued against making the killing of an unborn child a crime because they feared its passage would somehow limit abortions. The irony is the Violence Against Unborn Children Act has given fathers access to the legal system to seek justice when an unborn child is murdered. Preventing fathers from having legal recourse in the event of an unborn child's death was a significant motivator for feminists to try to prevent the act from being passed. Their concern, of course, is the next step is for fathers to have a say in whether their child can be aborted. |
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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
"DB" wrote in message ... "Paul Anderson" wrote in Without birth, there is no separate life. Ask yourself why you are forced to constantly lie to promote the "Pro-Life" agenda. It's not a pro-life agenda, common sense says that to end life you have to kill it. You people have sanitized this vile act to the point where you actually believe your own tripe. Mate, I could care less what you do with your own family, seems a dog has more rights than your own unborn. I'm sure for you It's no different than squashing a bug under your shoe and you scrape it off with little thought to its' existence. We were all put on this earth for a reason, who are you to decide the fate of all future generations? Good points. The legal penalties for killing an endangered species or damaging a wetlands area are grossly more serve when compared to the non-consequences of terminating an unwanted children. It's just amazing to think about how human life has a lesser value than spotted owls or sea lions or native plants. |
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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
"Bob Whiteside" wrote in It's just amazing to think about how human life has a lesser value than spotted owls or sea lions or native plants. Well for those that would kill their own innocent child, their lives are not worth much. |
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Child's First Right Is to Be Born, Insists Holy See
On Fri, 4 May 2007 18:53:49 -0700, "Bob Whiteside"
wrote: wrote in message roups.com... On May 4, 2:55 pm, "Bob Whiteside" wrote: "Paul Anderson" ..... Conception is merely a point in the human reproduction cycle. There is not baby at conception, nor for many months later if at all. A baby is an infant or a young child; an infant is A child in the first period of life, beginning at his birth. Until there is a birth, there is no child, no living being. Which is why abortion is not and never has been considered to be murder (except by Pro-Lifers, and then only for the purpose of opposing abortion.) So how do you explain the Violence Against Unborn Children Act Pro-Life fantasy. There is no such act. You are correct - I misspoke. The correct name for the law is the Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004. Ah, same as State legislation you mention below, the killing an unborn child against the wishes of the woman has been a crime for at least 3,000 years. That law is Pro-Choice -- Pro-Choice supports the woman's right to choose to carry to term. Killing an unborn child against her wishes is a Pro-Life position. Much the same as the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, which codified into Federal Law that the life ofd a human being begins at birth. and the fact 34 states has statutes making it illegal to kill an unborn child? Since abortion is legal in all 50 states, another Pro-Life fantasy. What is a fact is that abortion is not and never has been considered murder in any legal jurisdiction anywhere and anytime. Your statement above is not true. Abortion was considered a crime before Roe v. Wade. Many jurisdictions classifed that crime as murder. Being a crime does not make an act murder. No jurisdiction classified abortion as murder -- if otherwise was true then it would be trivial to cite the actual legislation. Has never been done because such has never existed. Abortion is court sanctioned murder You continue to post this lie Not true. Abortions were court sanctioned..... Not sanctioned, not murder. Your constant lies are boring. ..... well DUH!! The killing an unborn child against the wishes of the woman has been a crime for at least 3,000 years. That law is Pro- Choice -- Pro-Choice supports the woman's right to choose to carry to term. Killing an unborn child against her wishes is a Pro-Life position. The killing of an unborn child against the wishes of the mother has just recently become a crime. Exodus whatever -- "when men strive...." You can also look up Blackstone's commentaries. Get yoursellf educated. |
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