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"Child Support" money?
"Gini52" wrote in message ... In article , Moon Shyne says... "Gini52" wrote in message ... In article , Fighting For Kids says... On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:45:28 -0500, "Tiffany" wrote: ===== The dollar spent on the child will come with a receipt. So I can't buy anything for my children at a street fair, or some other place where they don't issue receipts? Can't buy ice cream from the ice cream truck because they don't issue receipts? ===== ===== You think those things are necessities that your x should be paying for? T It could be.. if the street fair is selling school supplies cheaper than walmart and you buy them there isnt that still spending money on the child's basic needs? I can think of all kinds of necessity items one could by at a street fair vs a store. All brand new items often less expensive than at the stores themselves. ===== Logic dictates that incidental spending be attributable to the CP's percent share. The NCP is not responsible for the entire financial output for the child(ren). Y'all didn't forget about that part, did you? Considering that the CS I receive is less than half the actual expenses for the children, nope, I sure didn't forget that part. ===== But, apparantly you didn't get the part where I stated that accountability should not be applied to lower income NCPs where the ordered support amount doesn't cover actual expenses. Only *lifestyle* support should be subject to accountability and *then* only the amount which exceeds the states' basic needs amount. My proposal doesn't apply to you at all so go for the ice cream and have a great time :-) ......moonie is once again playing games.......since she is the one that is determining what the childrens expenses are. Lifestyle support should NOT be part of the CS equaltion. It is simply a gross violation of a person's basic constitutional rights. The state has determined the amount required to supply a child with their basic needs (foster care payments) Each parent sould be responsible for half, and anything else should be up to the individual parent's choosing......NOT at the whim of the CP like moonie. ===== ===== |
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"Child Support" money?
Gini52 wrote in message ... In article , Fighting For Kids says... On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 21:45:28 -0500, "Tiffany" wrote: ===== The dollar spent on the child will come with a receipt. So I can't buy anything for my children at a street fair, or some other place where they don't issue receipts? Can't buy ice cream from the ice cream truck because they don't issue receipts? ===== ===== You think those things are necessities that your x should be paying for? T It could be.. if the street fair is selling school supplies cheaper than walmart and you buy them there isnt that still spending money on the child's basic needs? I can think of all kinds of necessity items one could by at a street fair vs a store. All brand new items often less expensive than at the stores themselves. ===== Logic dictates that incidental spending be attributable to the CP's percent share. The NCP is not responsible for the entire financial output for the child(ren). Y'all didn't forget about that part, did you? ===== ===== Good point...... and I do have to add, I don't know if it is law but I have had to demand receipt for things I have bought at unusual places. I didn't care if it was on a crappy piece of paper. Prove is prove. T |
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"Child Support" money?
Moon Shyne wrote in message ... "Tiffany" wrote in message ... Moon Shyne wrote in message ... "Gini52" wrote in message ... In article , Moon Shyne says... "Dave" dave@freedoms-door wrote in message ... "Jon" wrote in message news:Gvxsb.181492$HS4.1507961@attbi_s01... So if you receive support you can never buy a lottery ticket or take a drink? Child support should not be used for anything other than for supporting the child. So I use the child support to support the children, and buy my lottery ticket with my own money. Now........... how can you tell which dollar was which? They all look the same. ===== The dollar spent on the child will come with a receipt. So I can't buy anything for my children at a street fair, or some other place where they don't issue receipts? Can't buy ice cream from the ice cream truck because they don't issue receipts? ===== ===== You think those things are necessities that your x should be paying for? I think those are the sort of things that many, if not most, parents occasionally purchase for their kids, whether the marriage is intact or not. There are any number of things that I purchase for my children that I don't get a receipt for - lunch tickets for school, for example (at 1.55 (elementary school) and 1.85 (junior high), a nutritious bargain at that price) - I was questioning the requirement that you can only buy things for which you get a receipt. T You don't think if it came down to it, you couldn't get the school to write you a receipt? I am sure they would, especially if the government was requesting it. Besides, your ex should only have to pay half of that. And whether a marriage is intact or not, ice cream is not necessary. If you can't afford it, don't get it. T |
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"Child Support" money?
Gini52 wrote in message ... In article , Moon Shyne says... "Gini52" wrote in message ... In article , Moon Shyne says... "Gini52" wrote in message ... In article , Moon Shyne says... "Dave" dave@freedoms-door wrote in message ... "Jon" wrote in message news:Gvxsb.181492$HS4.1507961@attbi_s01... So if you receive support you can never buy a lottery ticket or take a drink? Child support should not be used for anything other than for supporting the child. So I use the child support to support the children, and buy my lottery ticket with my own money. Now........... how can you tell which dollar was which? They all look the same. ===== The dollar spent on the child will come with a receipt. So I can't buy anything for my children at a street fair, or some other place where they don't issue receipts? Can't buy ice cream from the ice cream truck because they don't issue receipts? ==== Yep. It comes from your percent share. (My proposal is, however, that only the amount over reasonable actual expenses should be subject to accounting.) Who gets to decide what "reasonable expenses" are? ===== Already posted. ===== ===== It seems we pick this apart but forget logic. lol T |
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"Child Support" money?
Chris wrote in message news:bcEsb.257$6G3.227@fed1read06... "Tiffany" wrote in message ... The DaveŠ wrote in message ... Moon Shyne wrote: The dollar spent on the child will come with a receipt. So I can't buy anything for my children at a street fair, or some other place where they don't issue receipts? Can't buy ice cream from the ice cream truck because they don't issue receipts? Apparently not. If you are so selfish with your own money that you can't spring for an ice cream, this will be a problem, won't it? Well, I don't think it should be a nickel-dime thing. CP's should be accountable for the large sums of money that doesn't seem to go to the kids, not a mere $2.50 for an ice cream. $2.50 here, $2.50 there. Nickels and dimes add up to dollars. T True it does, but if one can't afford ice cream and needs child support to pay for it........ maybe they shouldn't buy the ice cream. T |
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"Child Support" money?
Moon Shyne wrote in message ... "The DaveŠ" wrote in message ... Moon Shyne wrote: The dollar spent on the child will come with a receipt. So I can't buy anything for my children at a street fair, or some other place where they don't issue receipts? Can't buy ice cream from the ice cream truck because they don't issue receipts? Apparently not. If you are so selfish with your own money that you can't spring for an ice cream, this will be a problem, won't it? Considering that the CS I currently receive is less than half the actual expenses for the children, you would be way off base in your remark. Some receive no financial support. |
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"Child Support" money?
Chris wrote in message news5Gsb.293$6G3.120@fed1read06... "Fighting For Kids" wrote in message ... On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 20:54:44 -0800, "Chris" wrote: I COULD be wrong, but I believe that you are legally entitled to a receipt. lol, you may be legally entitled but that doesnt mean you are going to get one. You are legally entitled to wake up tomorrow morning, but that doesn't mean someone won't put a bullet in your head tonight. What's your point? Wow.... I do think you are right about the receipt thing too. So if you are needing receipts, wouldn't it be suggested you don't buy from someone who won't give it to you? Duh. lol T |
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"Child Support" money?
Moon Shyne wrote:
The dollar spent on the child will come with a receipt. So I can't buy anything for my children at a street fair, or some other place where they don't issue receipts? Can't buy ice cream from the ice cream truck because they don't issue receipts? Apparently not. If you are so selfish with your own money that you can't spring for an ice cream, this will be a problem, won't it? Considering that the CS I currently receive is less than half the actual expenses for the children, you would be way off base in your remark. That's not what you said. You're avoiding the point. Your statement gave no indication that you were talking only about you, specifically. Can you address the response to your own point, or not? |
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"Child Support" money?
"Tiffany" wrote in message ... Moon Shyne wrote in message ... "Tiffany" wrote in message ... Moon Shyne wrote in message ... "Gini52" wrote in message ... In article , Moon Shyne says... "Dave" dave@freedoms-door wrote in message ... "Jon" wrote in message news:Gvxsb.181492$HS4.1507961@attbi_s01... So if you receive support you can never buy a lottery ticket or take a drink? Child support should not be used for anything other than for supporting the child. So I use the child support to support the children, and buy my lottery ticket with my own money. Now........... how can you tell which dollar was which? They all look the same. ===== The dollar spent on the child will come with a receipt. So I can't buy anything for my children at a street fair, or some other place where they don't issue receipts? Can't buy ice cream from the ice cream truck because they don't issue receipts? ===== ===== You think those things are necessities that your x should be paying for? I think those are the sort of things that many, if not most, parents occasionally purchase for their kids, whether the marriage is intact or not. There are any number of things that I purchase for my children that I don't get a receipt for - lunch tickets for school, for example (at 1.55 (elementary school) and 1.85 (junior high), a nutritious bargain at that price) - I was questioning the requirement that you can only buy things for which you get a receipt. T You don't think if it came down to it, you couldn't get the school to write you a receipt? I am sure they would, especially if the government was requesting it. As far as I know, she is legally entitled to a receipt. Besides, your ex should only have to pay half of that. And whether a marriage is intact or not, ice cream is not necessary. If you can't afford it, don't get it. T |
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"Child Support" money?
"Tiffany" wrote in message ... Moon Shyne wrote in message ... "The DaveŠ" wrote in message ... Moon Shyne wrote: The dollar spent on the child will come with a receipt. So I can't buy anything for my children at a street fair, or some other place where they don't issue receipts? Can't buy ice cream from the ice cream truck because they don't issue receipts? Apparently not. If you are so selfish with your own money that you can't spring for an ice cream, this will be a problem, won't it? Considering that the CS I currently receive is less than half the actual expenses for the children, you would be way off base in your remark. Some receive no financial support. As it SHOULD be, unless they are receiving voluntary welfare donations. |
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