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Old May 1st 06, 08:37 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,sci.med,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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Default Systems of medicine explained: Conventional, alternative, integrative, complementary and more


http://www.newstarget.com/019365.html

By Mike Adams
Monday, May 01, 2006

Excerpts:

What's the deal with all the different systems of medicine? And what's the
difference between "Western medicine" and "conventional medicine?" Here,
you'll find some honest answers.
"Conventional medicine" refers to the classic medical training offered
through mainstream medical schools. This is a drugs-and-surgery approach to
medicine that largely excludes nutrition, wellness, mind-body medicine,
patient education, and other natural therapies.

"Organized medicine" refers to the collection of organizations that promote
conventional medicine. This encompasses pharmaceutical companies, the FDA,
hospitals, doctors, medical schools, and medical organizations such as the
American Medical Association as well as disease organizations like the
American Cancer Society and the American Diabetes Association. It's called
organized medicine because it is an organized system of profit-minded
players who engage in the marketing, screening, diagnosis and treatment of
diseases, all under the watchful eye of the FDA, using tactics that resemble
organized crime.

"Advanced medicine" refers to the future of medicine, based on supporting
the patient's health and wellness rather than attacking the patient with
various chemicals or procedures like radiation and surgery. Advanced
medicine is the first step to the new age of understanding about the true
underlying causes of health and wellness. Advanced medicine makes
conventional medicine and Western medicine obsolete, and it includes
therapies like phototherapy, sunlight, nutrition, sound therapy, vibrational
medicine, electromedicine, mind-body medicine, energy healing, and other
similar modalities that were once considered experimental, but are now
well-known to be both safe and effective at supporting the health of the
patient.

Full article at link


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Old May 1st 06, 10:59 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,sci.med,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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Default Systems of medicine explained: Conventional, alternative, integrative,complementary and more

Jan Drew wrote:
http://www.newstarget.com/019365.html

By Mike Adams
Monday, May 01, 2006

Excerpts:

What's the deal with all the different systems of medicine? And what's the
difference between "Western medicine" and "conventional medicine?" Here,
you'll find some honest answers.
"Conventional medicine" refers to the classic medical training offered
through mainstream medical schools. This is a drugs-and-surgery approach to
medicine that largely excludes nutrition, wellness, mind-body medicine,
patient education, and other natural therapies.


Not correct. Many evidence based medicine doctors do provide serious
nutrition counsellings. My internist does.

"Organized medicine" refers to the collection of organizations that promote
conventional medicine. This encompasses pharmaceutical companies, the FDA,
hospitals, doctors, medical schools, and medical organizations such as the
American Medical Association as well as disease organizations like the
American Cancer Society and the American Diabetes Association. It's called
organized medicine because it is an organized system of profit-minded
players who engage in the marketing, screening, diagnosis and treatment of
diseases, all under the watchful eye of the FDA, using tactics that resemble
organized crime.


I ran that paragraph though my bull****ometer and this is what happened
to Mike's claim of being an objective journalist:

http://tinyurl.com/q3f3r

"Advanced medicine" refers to the future of medicine, based on supporting
the patient's health and wellness rather than attacking the patient with
various chemicals or procedures like radiation and surgery. Advanced
medicine is the first step to the new age of understanding about the true
underlying causes of health and wellness. Advanced medicine makes
conventional medicine and Western medicine obsolete, and it includes
therapies like phototherapy, sunlight, nutrition, sound therapy, vibrational
medicine, electromedicine, mind-body medicine, energy healing, and other
similar modalities that were once considered experimental, but are now
well-known to be both safe and effective at supporting the health of the
patient.


Anyone who can claim that Mike Adams is objective needs a check-up from
the neck up.



Full article at link


  #3  
Old May 1st 06, 11:10 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,sci.med,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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Default Systems of medicine explained: Conventional, alternative, integrative,complementary and more

From Stuart Hyderman who also claims to be a chiropractor wrote in message:
Mark Probert wrote in message
...
Jan Drew wrote:
http://www.newstarget.com/019365.html

By Mike Adams
Monday, May 01, 2006

Excerpts:

What's the deal with all the different systems of medicine? And what's

the
difference between "Western medicine" and "conventional medicine?" Here,
you'll find some honest answers.
"Conventional medicine" refers to the classic medical training offered
through mainstream medical schools. This is a drugs-and-surgery approach

to
medicine that largely excludes nutrition, wellness, mind-body medicine,
patient education, and other natural therapies.


Not correct. Many evidence based medicine doctors do provide serious
nutrition counsellings. My internist does.

"Organized medicine" refers to the collection of organizations that

promote
conventional medicine. This encompasses pharmaceutical companies, the

FDA,
hospitals, doctors, medical schools, and medical organizations such as

the
American Medical Association as well as disease organizations like the
American Cancer Society and the American Diabetes Association. It's

called
organized medicine because it is an organized system of profit-minded
players who engage in the marketing, screening, diagnosis and treatment

of
diseases, all under the watchful eye of the FDA, using tactics that

resemble
organized crime.


I ran that paragraph though my bull****ometer and this is what happened
to Mike's claim of being an objective journalist:

http://tinyurl.com/q3f3r

"Advanced medicine" refers to the future of medicine, based on

supporting
the patient's health and wellness rather than attacking the patient with
various chemicals or procedures like radiation and surgery. Advanced
medicine is the first step to the new age of understanding about the

true
underlying causes of health and wellness. Advanced medicine makes
conventional medicine and Western medicine obsolete, and it includes
therapies like phototherapy, sunlight, nutrition, sound therapy,

vibrational
medicine, electromedicine, mind-body medicine, energy healing, and other
similar modalities that were once considered experimental, but are now
well-known to be both safe and effective at supporting the health of the
patient.


Anyone who can claim that Mike Adams is objective needs a check-up from
the neck up.



Full article at link




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Old May 1st 06, 11:26 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,sci.med,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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Default Systems of medicine explained: Conventional, alternative, integrative, complementary and more

"Jan Drew" wrote:


http://www.newstarget.com/019365.html

By Mike Adams
Monday, May 01, 2006

Excerpts:

What's the deal with all the different systems of medicine? And what's the
difference between "Western medicine" and "conventional medicine?" Here,
you'll find some honest answers.
"Conventional medicine" refers to the classic medical training offered
through mainstream medical schools. This is a drugs-and-surgery approach to
medicine that largely excludes nutrition, wellness, mind-body medicine,
patient education, and other natural therapies.


Wow! My doctors must have been away the day they didn't learn about
nutrition and patient education.

I must read on. Will more bull**** follow?

"Organized medicine" refers to the collection of organizations that promote
conventional medicine. This encompasses pharmaceutical companies, the FDA,
hospitals, doctors, medical schools, and medical organizations such as the
American Medical Association as well as disease organizations like the
American Cancer Society and the American Diabetes Association. It's called
organized medicine because it is an organized system of profit-minded
players who engage in the marketing, screening, diagnosis and treatment of
diseases, all under the watchful eye of the FDA, using tactics that resemble
organized crime.


Why, yes it does.

"Advanced medicine" refers to the future of medicine, based on supporting
the patient's health and wellness rather than attacking the patient with
various chemicals or procedures like radiation and surgery. Advanced
medicine is the first step to the new age of understanding about the true
underlying causes of health and wellness. Advanced medicine makes
conventional medicine and Western medicine obsolete, and it includes
therapies like phototherapy, sunlight, nutrition, sound therapy, vibrational
medicine, electromedicine, mind-body medicine, energy healing, and other
similar modalities that were once considered experimental, but are now
well-known to be both safe and effective at supporting the health of the
patient.


And there is more! Who would have thought that "Advanced medicine"
would almost exclusively consist of ancient crap that has been proved
ineffective many times over not just years but decades and even
centuries? Who would think that the "future of medicine" is identical
to "the history of medicine"?

I don't see "taking the waters" and "adjusting the humours" in the
list. Oversights, I'm sure.

--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com
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Old May 2nd 06, 12:54 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,sci.med,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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Default Systems of medicine explained: Conventional, alternative, integrative, complementary and more


"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...
Jan Drew wrote:
http://www.newstarget.com/019365.html

By Mike Adams
Monday, May 01, 2006

Excerpts:

What's the deal with all the different systems of medicine? And what's
the difference between "Western medicine" and "conventional medicine?"
Here, you'll find some honest answers.
"Conventional medicine" refers to the classic medical training offered
through mainstream medical schools. This is a drugs-and-surgery approach
to medicine that largely excludes nutrition, wellness, mind-body
medicine, patient education, and other natural therapies.


Anecdotes are Bull****. Mark Probert

"Organized medicine" refers to the collection of organizations that
promote conventional medicine. This encompasses pharmaceutical companies,
the FDA, hospitals, doctors, medical schools, and medical organizations
such as the American Medical Association as well as disease organizations
like the American Cancer Society and the American Diabetes Association.
It's called organized medicine because it is an organized system of
profit-minded players who engage in the marketing, screening, diagnosis
and treatment of diseases, all under the watchful eye of the FDA, using
tactics that resemble organized crime.


I ran that paragraph though my bull****ometer and this is what happened to
Mike's claim of being an objective journalist:


I regret having to point out that this post is not in the spirit of
'live and let live.'



"Advanced medicine" refers to the future of medicine, based on supporting
the patient's health and wellness rather than attacking the patient with
various chemicals or procedures like radiation and surgery. Advanced
medicine is the first step to the new age of understanding about the true
underlying causes of health and wellness. Advanced medicine makes
conventional medicine and Western medicine obsolete, and it includes
therapies like phototherapy, sunlight, nutrition, sound therapy,
vibrational medicine, electromedicine, mind-body medicine, energy
healing, and other similar modalities that were once considered
experimental, but are now well-known to be both safe and effective at
supporting the health of the patient.


Anyone who can claim that Mike Adams is objective needs a check-up from
the neck up.


I regret having to point out that this post is not in the spirit of
'live and let live.'



Full article at link


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Old May 2nd 06, 12:57 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,sci.med,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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Default Systems of medicine explained: Conventional, alternative, integrative, complementary and more


"Peter Bowditch"
"Jan Drew" wrote:


http://www.newstarget.com/019365.html

By Mike Adams
Monday, May 01, 2006

Excerpts:

What's the deal with all the different systems of medicine? And what's the
difference between "Western medicine" and "conventional medicine?" Here,
you'll find some honest answers.
"Conventional medicine" refers to the classic medical training offered
through mainstream medical schools. This is a drugs-and-surgery approach
to
medicine that largely excludes nutrition, wellness, mind-body medicine,
patient education, and other natural therapies.


Wow! My doctors must have been away the day they didn't learn about
nutrition and patient education.

I must read on. Will more bull**** follow?


I regret having to point out that this post is not in the spirit of
'live and let live.'


"Organized medicine" refers to the collection of organizations that
promote
conventional medicine. This encompasses pharmaceutical companies, the FDA,
hospitals, doctors, medical schools, and medical organizations such as the
American Medical Association as well as disease organizations like the
American Cancer Society and the American Diabetes Association. It's called
organized medicine because it is an organized system of profit-minded
players who engage in the marketing, screening, diagnosis and treatment of
diseases, all under the watchful eye of the FDA, using tactics that
resemble
organized crime.


Why, yes it does.

"Advanced medicine" refers to the future of medicine, based on supporting
the patient's health and wellness rather than attacking the patient with
various chemicals or procedures like radiation and surgery. Advanced
medicine is the first step to the new age of understanding about the true
underlying causes of health and wellness. Advanced medicine makes
conventional medicine and Western medicine obsolete, and it includes
therapies like phototherapy, sunlight, nutrition, sound therapy,
vibrational
medicine, electromedicine, mind-body medicine, energy healing, and other
similar modalities that were once considered experimental, but are now
well-known to be both safe and effective at supporting the health of the
patient.


snip

--
Peter Bo



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Old May 2nd 06, 12:59 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,sci.med,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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Default Systems of medicine explained: Conventional, alternative, integrative, complementary and more

From Stuart Hyderman who also claims to be a chiropractor wrote in message:
Jan Drew wrote in message
om...

"Peter Bowditch"
"Jan Drew" wrote:


http://www.newstarget.com/019365.html

By Mike Adams
Monday, May 01, 2006

Excerpts:

What's the deal with all the different systems of medicine? And what's

the
difference between "Western medicine" and "conventional medicine?" Here,
you'll find some honest answers.
"Conventional medicine" refers to the classic medical training offered
through mainstream medical schools. This is a drugs-and-surgery approach
to
medicine that largely excludes nutrition, wellness, mind-body medicine,
patient education, and other natural therapies.


Wow! My doctors must have been away the day they didn't learn about
nutrition and patient education.

I must read on. Will more bull**** follow?


I regret having to point out that this post is not in the spirit of
'live and let live.'


"Organized medicine" refers to the collection of organizations that
promote
conventional medicine. This encompasses pharmaceutical companies, the

FDA,
hospitals, doctors, medical schools, and medical organizations such as

the
American Medical Association as well as disease organizations like the
American Cancer Society and the American Diabetes Association. It's

called
organized medicine because it is an organized system of profit-minded
players who engage in the marketing, screening, diagnosis and treatment

of
diseases, all under the watchful eye of the FDA, using tactics that
resemble
organized crime.


Why, yes it does.

"Advanced medicine" refers to the future of medicine, based on

supporting
the patient's health and wellness rather than attacking the patient with
various chemicals or procedures like radiation and surgery. Advanced
medicine is the first step to the new age of understanding about the

true
underlying causes of health and wellness. Advanced medicine makes
conventional medicine and Western medicine obsolete, and it includes
therapies like phototherapy, sunlight, nutrition, sound therapy,
vibrational
medicine, electromedicine, mind-body medicine, energy healing, and other
similar modalities that were once considered experimental, but are now
well-known to be both safe and effective at supporting the health of the
patient.


snip

--
Peter Bo





  #8  
Old May 2nd 06, 01:58 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,sci.med,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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Default Systems of medicine explained: Conventional, alternative, integrative,complementary and more

Jan Drew wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...
Jan Drew wrote:
http://www.newstarget.com/019365.html

By Mike Adams
Monday, May 01, 2006

Excerpts:

What's the deal with all the different systems of medicine? And what's
the difference between "Western medicine" and "conventional medicine?"
Here, you'll find some honest answers.
"Conventional medicine" refers to the classic medical training offered
through mainstream medical schools. This is a drugs-and-surgery approach
to medicine that largely excludes nutrition, wellness, mind-body
medicine, patient education, and other natural therapies.


Anecdotes are Bull****. Mark Probert


That is not what I said in my comments regarding this opinion piece. You
snipped them without mentioning them. Here is what I said:

Not correct. Many evidence based medicine doctors do provide serious
nutrition counsellings. My internist does.

Anecdotes are bull**** when someone is trying to prove a scientific
point. However, when the discussion is of social issues, as is the case
here, anecdotes are completely valid.

"Organized medicine" refers to the collection of organizations that
promote conventional medicine. This encompasses pharmaceutical companies,
the FDA, hospitals, doctors, medical schools, and medical organizations
such as the American Medical Association as well as disease organizations
like the American Cancer Society and the American Diabetes Association.
It's called organized medicine because it is an organized system of
profit-minded players who engage in the marketing, screening, diagnosis
and treatment of diseases, all under the watchful eye of the FDA, using
tactics that resemble organized crime.


I ran that paragraph though my bull****ometer and this is what happened to
Mike's claim of being an objective journalist:


http://tinyurl.com/q3f3r


(snipped URL restored)

I regret having to point out that this post is not in the spirit of
'live and let live.'


This post is clearly within the parameters of "live and let live" as I
am discussing issues, not the person who posted them. Further,
discussing the person who wrote the article is also within the
parameters of "live and let live".

"Advanced medicine" refers to the future of medicine, based on supporting
the patient's health and wellness rather than attacking the patient with
various chemicals or procedures like radiation and surgery. Advanced
medicine is the first step to the new age of understanding about the true
underlying causes of health and wellness. Advanced medicine makes
conventional medicine and Western medicine obsolete, and it includes
therapies like phototherapy, sunlight, nutrition, sound therapy,
vibrational medicine, electromedicine, mind-body medicine, energy
healing, and other similar modalities that were once considered
experimental, but are now well-known to be both safe and effective at
supporting the health of the patient.


Anyone who can claim that Mike Adams is objective needs a check-up from
the neck up.


I regret having to point out that this post is not in the spirit of
'live and let live.'


This post is clearly within the parameters of "live and let live" as I
am discussing issues, not the person who posted them. Further,
discussing the person who wrote the article is also within the
parameters of "live and let live".

Full article at link


  #9  
Old May 2nd 06, 01:59 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,sci.med,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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Default Systems of medicine explained: Conventional, alternative, integrative,complementary and more

Jan Drew wrote:
"Peter Bowditch"
"Jan Drew" wrote:

http://www.newstarget.com/019365.html

By Mike Adams
Monday, May 01, 2006

Excerpts:

What's the deal with all the different systems of medicine? And what's the
difference between "Western medicine" and "conventional medicine?" Here,
you'll find some honest answers.
"Conventional medicine" refers to the classic medical training offered
through mainstream medical schools. This is a drugs-and-surgery approach
to
medicine that largely excludes nutrition, wellness, mind-body medicine,
patient education, and other natural therapies.

Wow! My doctors must have been away the day they didn't learn about
nutrition and patient education.

I must read on. Will more bull**** follow?


I regret having to point out that this post is not in the spirit of
'live and let live.'


Peter never agreed to that, and furthermore, this post is clearly within
the parameters of "live and let live" as I am discussing issues, not the
person who posted them. Further, discussing the person who wrote the
article is also within the parameters of "live and let live".




"Organized medicine" refers to the collection of organizations that
promote
conventional medicine. This encompasses pharmaceutical companies, the FDA,
hospitals, doctors, medical schools, and medical organizations such as the
American Medical Association as well as disease organizations like the
American Cancer Society and the American Diabetes Association. It's called
organized medicine because it is an organized system of profit-minded
players who engage in the marketing, screening, diagnosis and treatment of
diseases, all under the watchful eye of the FDA, using tactics that
resemble
organized crime.

Why, yes it does.

"Advanced medicine" refers to the future of medicine, based on supporting
the patient's health and wellness rather than attacking the patient with
various chemicals or procedures like radiation and surgery. Advanced
medicine is the first step to the new age of understanding about the true
underlying causes of health and wellness. Advanced medicine makes
conventional medicine and Western medicine obsolete, and it includes
therapies like phototherapy, sunlight, nutrition, sound therapy,
vibrational
medicine, electromedicine, mind-body medicine, energy healing, and other
similar modalities that were once considered experimental, but are now
well-known to be both safe and effective at supporting the health of the
patient.


snip
--
Peter Bo



  #10  
Old May 2nd 06, 03:01 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,sci.med,misc.kids.health,talk.politics.medicine
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Default Systems of medicine explained: Conventional, alternative, integrative,complementary and more

From Stuart Hyderman who also claims to be a chiropractor wrote in message:
Mark Probert wrote in message
...
Jan Drew wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...
Jan Drew wrote:
http://www.newstarget.com/019365.html

By Mike Adams
Monday, May 01, 2006

Excerpts:

What's the deal with all the different systems of medicine? And what's
the difference between "Western medicine" and "conventional medicine?"
Here, you'll find some honest answers.
"Conventional medicine" refers to the classic medical training offered
through mainstream medical schools. This is a drugs-and-surgery

approach
to medicine that largely excludes nutrition, wellness, mind-body
medicine, patient education, and other natural therapies.


Anecdotes are Bull****. Mark Probert


That is not what I said in my comments regarding this opinion piece. You
snipped them without mentioning them. Here is what I said:

Not correct. Many evidence based medicine doctors do provide serious
nutrition counsellings. My internist does.

Anecdotes are bull**** when someone is trying to prove a scientific
point. However, when the discussion is of social issues, as is the case
here, anecdotes are completely valid.

"Organized medicine" refers to the collection of organizations that
promote conventional medicine. This encompasses pharmaceutical

companies,
the FDA, hospitals, doctors, medical schools, and medical

organizations
such as the American Medical Association as well as disease

organizations
like the American Cancer Society and the American Diabetes

Association.
It's called organized medicine because it is an organized system of
profit-minded players who engage in the marketing, screening,

diagnosis
and treatment of diseases, all under the watchful eye of the FDA,

using
tactics that resemble organized crime.

I ran that paragraph though my bull****ometer and this is what happened

to
Mike's claim of being an objective journalist:


http://tinyurl.com/q3f3r


(snipped URL restored)

I regret having to point out that this post is not in the spirit of
'live and let live.'


This post is clearly within the parameters of "live and let live" as I
am discussing issues, not the person who posted them. Further,
discussing the person who wrote the article is also within the
parameters of "live and let live".

"Advanced medicine" refers to the future of medicine, based on

supporting
the patient's health and wellness rather than attacking the patient

with
various chemicals or procedures like radiation and surgery. Advanced
medicine is the first step to the new age of understanding about the

true
underlying causes of health and wellness. Advanced medicine makes
conventional medicine and Western medicine obsolete, and it includes
therapies like phototherapy, sunlight, nutrition, sound therapy,
vibrational medicine, electromedicine, mind-body medicine, energy
healing, and other similar modalities that were once considered
experimental, but are now well-known to be both safe and effective at
supporting the health of the patient.

Anyone who can claim that Mike Adams is objective needs a check-up from
the neck up.


I regret having to point out that this post is not in the spirit of
'live and let live.'


This post is clearly within the parameters of "live and let live" as I
am discussing issues, not the person who posted them. Further,
discussing the person who wrote the article is also within the
parameters of "live and let live".

Full article at link




 




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