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Old April 18th 05, 05:33 PM
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I seem to recall that the policy for routine Hep B immunizations of
children was made in 1991, with vaccinations starting in 1992. This
indicates that the vaccine had no, or at most minor (negligible?),
role in increased mercury exposure through thimerosal formulation of
the vaccine.

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Old April 18th 05, 07:18 PM
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I seem to recall that the policy for routine Hep B immunizations of
children was made in 1991, with vaccinations starting in 1992. This
indicates that the vaccine had no, or at most minor (negligible?),
role in increased mercury exposure through thimerosal formulation of
the vaccine.



Hepatitis B immunization has been ongoing in a number of childhood and
adult populations in the United States and other countries since the
vaccine was first licensed in 1981.

Since 1983, all Alaska Native infants have been routinely vaccinated with
the available licensed hepatitis B vaccines, beginning at birth.


Since 1991, millions of trusting American parents were manipulated into
allowing an unknown, untested, toxic substance to be injected into their
vulnerable newborn babes. Parents were told a vaccination was to
“protect” their babies against hepatitis B. They were not told that
hepatitis B was a sexually transmitted disease—contracted in the same
manner as syphilis and gonorrhea.


Donna


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Old April 19th 05, 12:11 AM
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Kevysmom wrote in message:
This observation is, of course,
not empirical evidence supporting the hypothesis that the increases

in
ADHD and ASD prevalences are attributable to changing patterns in
diagnosis and classification, rather than changes in the real risk of
the conditions. However, there is value in noting the similarities in
the patterns of the curves for the autism and other health

impairments
categories and the contrast between these categories and the other
categories."

Caledonia



If you finished reading the rest of the article below of what you
posted...It says:


The numerators are incomplete because some children are home schooled

or
are in private school. And some do not aquire special education
classifications.

Conclussions;

Cohort curves suggest that autism prevelances has been INCREASING

with
time, as Evidenced by higher prevalances among younger birth cohorts.

The
narrowing if vertical seperation of the cohort curves in recent years

may
mark a slowing in the autism prevalence increase.

Donna


It's interesting, and your summary was reasonable as I said, but it
still omits the fact that prior to 92 there was no consistent (or even
available) ASD Dx, and that the trend of diagnosing ASD seems to track
the trend of other sped-diagnoses, i.e., an initial upswing followed by
a decline.

Thank you for pointing me to the site, though -- it's cool to get a
click-through to a full text article from last month.

Out of curiousity, what makes you focus on Hep-B? (There are a lot of
articles on the same site that debunk the vaccination/ASD link, b/t/w.)
Like, for Hg emissions, why not focus on states that have a lot of coal
emissions? Or the recent upswing in China's emissions?

Caledonia

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Old April 19th 05, 04:29 PM
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Kevysmom wrote:
I seem to recall that the policy for routine Hep B immunizations of
children was made in 1991, with vaccinations starting in 1992. This
indicates that the vaccine had no, or at most minor (negligible?),
role in increased mercury exposure through thimerosal formulation of
the vaccine.



Hepatitis B immunization has been ongoing in a number of childhood

and
adult populations in the United States and other countries since the
vaccine was first licensed in 1981.


But it was not on the recommended list (i.e., policy) until 1991-1992,
right? That suggests taht its usage was not common until 1992, the end
of your original time frame. This would suggest that it had no or
little role in increased exposure to thimerosal.


Since 1983, all Alaska Native infants have been routinely vaccinated

with
the available licensed hepatitis B vaccines, beginning at birth.


Since 1991, millions of trusting American parents were manipulated

into
allowing an unknown, untested, toxic substance to be injected into

their
vulnerable newborn babes. Parents were told a vaccination was to
"protect" their babies against hepatitis B. They were not told

that
hepatitis B was a sexually transmitted disease-contracted in the

same
manner as syphilis and gonorrhea.


Hep B is transmitted by means other than sexual activity or intravenous
drug use. About 10 years after it made the recommended list, the
incidence of Hep B in U. S. children declined by 89%. The vaccine was
responsible for this decline. What in the vaccine is "toxic"?

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Old April 19th 05, 09:04 PM
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What in the vaccine is "toxic"?



MERCURY! 12.5 mcg INJECTED into one day old infants! The EPA limit for
ingesting mercury is 6 mcg....Yes, I know the mercury is out, So they say.
Only trace amounts are left. BS


Donna

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Old April 19th 05, 09:53 PM
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"Kevysmom" wrote in message
lkaboutparenting.com...
http://www.physiciansweekly.com/article.asp?
issueid=221&articleid=2130

Increase in Autism Prevalence Not Due to Diagnosis Shift

The prevalence of autism has been increasing in children, according to
results published in the March 2005 issue of Pediatrics, but NOT

because
the more recent diagnostic criteria have identified autistic children
among those previously determined to be mentally retarded or to have
speech or language impairments. Autism was found to be especially
prevalent in children born between 1987 and 1992, There was an increase
with each year after 1992, But it wasnt as great.

REFERENCE LINKS: An abstract of the study is available at
pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/abstract/ 115/3/e277.

What happpened between 1987 and 1992?


Easy...the US Department of Edcuation began kicking butt about why school
districts were allowing kids to graduate without learning. Thus, a
vigorous
look at all students who were not learning ensued, and the rise in
diagnosis
was fostered. Further, in 1991, the same Department classified AD/HD as a
'Other Health Impaired" problem, thus making kids with it elegible for
special education.



Mark,
Take it up with the Pediatric Journal, They are the ones who did the
study. Maybe they will peer review your thoughts and publish them...


There have been other studies which say what I said.



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Old April 19th 05, 09:58 PM
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"Kevysmom" wrote in message
lkaboutparenting.com...


I seem to recall that the policy for routine Hep B immunizations of
children was made in 1991, with vaccinations starting in 1992. This
indicates that the vaccine had no, or at most minor (negligible?),
role in increased mercury exposure through thimerosal formulation of
the vaccine.



Hepatitis B immunization has been ongoing in a number of childhood and
adult populations in the United States and other countries since the
vaccine was first licensed in 1981.

Since 1983, all Alaska Native infants have been routinely vaccinated with
the available licensed hepatitis B vaccines, beginning at birth.


Since 1991, millions of trusting American parents were manipulated into
allowing an unknown, untested, toxic substance to be injected into their
vulnerable newborn babes. Parents were told a vaccination was to
"protect" their babies against hepatitis B. They were not told that
hepatitis B was a sexually transmitted disease-contracted in the same
manner as syphilis and gonorrhea.


Studies have shown that in approximately 1/3rd of all new HepB cases the
disease vector cannot be determined. IOW, they do not know where it came
from.



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Old April 19th 05, 10:00 PM
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"Kevysmom" wrote in message
lkaboutparenting.com...
What in the vaccine is "toxic"?



MERCURY! 12.5 mcg INJECTED into one day old infants! The EPA limit for
ingesting mercury is 6 mcg....Yes, I know the mercury is out, So they say.
Only trace amounts are left. BS


Ingesting and injecting are two different things, and the effect may be
totally different.

As for BS, only trace amounts are left, and no one, except you and the
anti-vac liars make a claim otherwise.



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Old April 19th 05, 10:05 PM
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1. All mercuries are not the same. Mercury salts, elemental mercury and
methylmercury are all toxic, while thimerosal, and its physiologic
product ethylmercury, are not at the dosages (formerly) used in
childhood vaccines.

2. Ingestion and injection are two different routes of administration
and will be biochemically treated differently. Your comparison is
apples to oranges.

3. Why do you think "they" are lying (whomever "they" are)?

4. What evidence do you have that suggests thimerosal is "toxic" in the
doses formerly used in childhood vaccines?

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Old April 19th 05, 10:15 PM
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MERCURY! 12.5 mcg INJECTED into one day old infants! The EPA limit for
ingesting mercury is 6 mcg....Yes, I know the mercury is out, So they

say.
Only trace amounts are left. BS


Ingesting and injecting are two different things, and the effect may be
totally different.

As for BS, only trace amounts are left, and no one, except you and the
anti-vac liars make a claim otherwise.



If my son was disabled by a drunk driver I would be one of the MADD(moms
against drunk drivers)

But my son was not, Instead he was disabled by mercury that was injected
into me while I was pregnant! argh


Donna

 




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