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#61
May 19th 05, 01:59 PM
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"LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:NuSie.6088$z_.1560@attbi_s71... "Jeff" wrote in message ink.net... "LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:G2Nie.4969$WG.1961@attbi_s22... (...) http://www.909shot.com/Kids/terry.htm http://www.909shot.com/Kids/anna.htm http://www.909shot.com/Kids/richie.htm http://www.909shot.com/Kids/nicky.htm These stories are real sad. My heart goes out to the kids and their parents. As these strories point out, vaccines are not 100% safe. No one ever claimed they were. Well, you said; They are proven to be safe. Riding on an airplane has proven to be safe. The death rate of riding on an airplane is far lower than the death rate of riding the same distance in a car (in fact, you are more likely to get killed on the way to the airport than in a plane crash). But people still die in airplanes. By safe, I meant realitively safe. I did not say 100% safe. Nothing is 100% safe. Jeff Sadly, there are some very bad reactions to vaccines. However, far more kids would die from infectious diseases than from the vaccines. There is risk to everything we do. The risk of vaccines is far less than the benefit from vaccines. Jeff 
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#62
May 19th 05, 02:12 PM
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"Jeff" wrote in message nk.net... "LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:LQMie.5259$796.3405@attbi_s21... (...) Vaccines have prevented something like 15,000,000 deaths a year. There are some very serious reactions. But nothing like the 15,000,000 lives they save a year. The benefits of vaccines far outweight the risks. Jeff Thanks for correcting your mistake What mistake is this? Thinking you can have a reasonable discussion with Jan. I make this mistake all the time.
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#63
May 19th 05, 02:21 PM
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"LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:mbSie.6060$z_.4128@attbi_s71... "Jeff" wrote in message nk.net... "LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:cXMie.4958$WG.3674@attbi_s22... (...) Yeah, and if I spent a few hundred dollars on a treatment, I would claim I felt better, too. Stupid statement. Can you please provide peer-reviewed evidence that patients who get the chelation therapy have few heart attacks, live longer, less chest pain or any other objective measure of benefit? Jeff That line is worn out now, Jeff, stop being childish. Asking you support your claims with real proof is not being childish. Jeff *I* didn't make any claims. The line peer reviewed is worn out and childish. Bull****. You are afraid of it. You cannot handle it. So, like everything else which you are afraid of, you reject it. Intellectual coward.
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#64
May 19th 05, 02:22 PM
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"LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:jjSie.5984$V2.3333@attbi_s72... "Jeff" wrote in message nk.net... Instead of your rants and raves, how about taking a specific claim Dr. Barrett makes, like EDTA chelation therapy is useless for heart disease, is inaccurate? Jeff I have made no rants nor raves. Sure you have. You just do not have any insight into your obsessions.
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#65
May 19th 05, 02:24 PM
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"LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:NuSie.6088$z_.1560@attbi_s71... "Jeff" wrote in message ink.net... "LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:G2Nie.4969$WG.1961@attbi_s22... (...) http://www.909shot.com/Kids/terry.htm http://www.909shot.com/Kids/anna.htm http://www.909shot.com/Kids/richie.htm http://www.909shot.com/Kids/nicky.htm These stories are real sad. My heart goes out to the kids and their parents. As these strories point out, vaccines are not 100% safe. No one ever claimed they were. Well, you said; They are proven to be safe. Jeff did not say 100% safe. Sad that your reading comprehension skills are so lacking. However, vaccines are safe. Safety is not 100% vs. 0%.
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#66
May 19th 05, 07:45 PM
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"Jeff" wrote in message nk.net... "LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:mbSie.6060$z_.4128@attbi_s71... "Jeff" wrote in message nk.net... "LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:cXMie.4958$WG.3674@attbi_s22... (...) Yeah, and if I spent a few hundred dollars on a treatment, I would claim I felt better, too. Stupid statement. Can you please provide peer-reviewed evidence that patients who get the chelation therapy have few heart attacks, live longer, less chest pain or any other objective measure of benefit? Jeff That line is worn out now, Jeff, stop being childish. Asking you support your claims with real proof is not being childish. Jeff *I* didn't make any claims. The line peer reviewed is worn out and childish. Askinig someone to back up her statements is childish. Thanks for admitting you are being childish. Now this is wasting band width, and needs end
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#67
May 19th 05, 08:15 PM
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"LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:_85je.7428$WG.2421@attbi_s22... "Jeff" wrote in message nk.net... "LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:mbSie.6060$z_.4128@attbi_s71... "Jeff" wrote in message nk.net... "LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:cXMie.4958$WG.3674@attbi_s22... (...) Yeah, and if I spent a few hundred dollars on a treatment, I would claim I felt better, too. Stupid statement. Can you please provide peer-reviewed evidence that patients who get the chelation therapy have few heart attacks, live longer, less chest pain or any other objective measure of benefit? Jeff That line is worn out now, Jeff, stop being childish. Asking you support your claims with real proof is not being childish. Jeff *I* didn't make any claims. The line peer reviewed is worn out and childish. Askinig someone to back up her statements is childish. Liar. I never said that. You deleted the word "never." What I said is: begin quote Askinig someone to back up her statements is never childish. I do admit, asking you for you to back up your claims when you fail to do so is getting tiring. Of course, so are you stupid claims. end quote Thanks for admitting you are being childish. Changing the words someone said when one can readily demonstrate that they were changed is childish and stupid. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...1442e791272284 Now this is wasting band width, and needs end I agree. You, including your intellectual dishonesty and outright lies, are wasting bandwidth. Jeff
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#68
May 19th 05, 10:38 PM
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"LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:_85je.7428$WG.2421@attbi_s22... "Jeff" wrote in message nk.net... "LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:mbSie.6060$z_.4128@attbi_s71... "Jeff" wrote in message nk.net... "LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:cXMie.4958$WG.3674@attbi_s22... (...) Yeah, and if I spent a few hundred dollars on a treatment, I would claim I felt better, too. Stupid statement. Can you please provide peer-reviewed evidence that patients who get the chelation therapy have few heart attacks, live longer, less chest pain or any other objective measure of benefit? Jeff That line is worn out now, Jeff, stop being childish. Asking you support your claims with real proof is not being childish. Jeff *I* didn't make any claims. The line peer reviewed is worn out and childish. Askinig someone to back up her statements is childish. Thanks for admitting you are being childish. That is so intellectually dishonest of you. Jeff never said that. You intentionally edited his words to change his meaning 100%. Intelligent people never do that. Now this is wasting band width, and needs end What are YOU so afraid of? Why is it so important to you to stop people from asking you to actually provide some real proof, not scaremongering and/or saleshype?
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#69
May 22nd 05, 12:17 AM
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"Jeff" wrote in message nk.net... "Askinig[sic] someone to back up her statements is never childish." "LadyLollipop" wrote in message news:_85je.7428$WG.2421@attbi_s22... Askinig someone to back up her statements is childish. Thanks for admitting you are being childish. Now this is wasting band width, and needs end "Jeff" responded in message ink.net... Askinig someone to back up her statements is childish. Liar. I never said that. You deleted the word "never." What I said is: begin quote Askinig someone to back up her statements is never childish. I do admit, asking you for you to back up your claims when you fail to do so is getting tiring. Of course, so are you stupid claims. end quote Thanks for admitting you are being childish. Changing the words someone said when one can readily demonstrate that they were changed is childish and stupid. http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...1442e791272284 Now this is wasting band width, and needs end I agree. You, including your intellectual dishonesty and outright lies, are wasting bandwidth. Jeff Mark Probert also caught you in the lie and posted: "That is so intellectually dishonest of you. Jeff never said that. You intentionally edited his words to change his meaning 100%. Intelligent people never do that." At point, realizing that you were CAUGHT IN A LIE, you shut up and never posted to that thread again. --Rich
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