New familial autism link discovered

JanD wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote in message
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wrote:

Mark Probert wrote:


Eric D. Peterson, M.D., F.A.C.C., Associate Professor of Medicine, Duke
University Medical Center, Durham, NC. Received research grants from
Millenium, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Schering-Plough, and CV Therapeutics.
On the speakers' bureaus for Millennium and Schering-Plough.
(Circulation. 2004;110:2506-49.)

***

All of these companies make vaccines.

So? The Dr. Peterson that the articles refers to is in *Colorado* named
Eric Peter Peterson, MD, and the bull**** you posted refers to Eric
David Peterson, MD, the cardiologist. Of course, the other Dr. Eric W.
Peterson, the psychiatrist, also in North Carolina, may have been the
one...nope...his middle intial is 'W'.


I noticed that and was in the process of double-checking it. You are
correct and I apologize to the readers in this ng and Dr Peterson from
Colorado.

When the name is common, checking is necessary. There are even multiple
me's.


But only ONY Mark S. Probert in NY.

There are people who do not show up on databases, telephone searches,
etc. Thus, you do not really know squat.

Mark Probert wrote:
JanD wrote:

OH, Just a slight thing, Vaccine man overlooked.

Uh huh,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Thanks, TC


Well, TC, when I showed the error, was intellectually honest and
acknowledged that there was a mistake of identity since the article
referred to a different Dr. Peterson.

You posted your nonsense more than a half-hour after TC acknowledge the
error.

Now, Jan Drew, do you have enough intellectual honesty to acknowledge
yours?


Hmmm???




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Vaccine-man wrote:

23/11/05 - Health news section

Autism family link discovered

Relatives of people with autism who do not have the disorder themselves
may still display behaviours and brain differences linked to the
condition, scientists have found.

The discovery could make it easier to spot families at risk of having
an autistic child.

It could also help in the quest to identify the genetic and
environmental triggers for the condition, characterised by emotional
detachment and an inability to relate to others.

Dr Eric Peterson, from the University of Colorado in Denver, USA,
compared the brain scans of 40 parents with autistic children with
those of 40 matched parents whose children were normal.

The parents of autistic children shared several differences in brain
structure with their offspring.

These included an unexpected increase in the size of the motor cortex
and basal ganglia, both areas linked to movement planning and
imitation.

The neighbouring somatosensory cortex, by contrast, was smaller than
average.

This region is important for understanding social information such as
facial expressions - a skill autistic people often lack.

There were also reductions in the cerebellum, important for
co-ordinating movement, and a frontal region thought to play a key role
in understanding the intentions of others.

Another study led by Brendon Nacewicz, from the University of
Wisconsin-Madison Medical School in the United States, tested for
avoidance of eye contact, a common feature of autism.

While parents seemed normal in this respect, brothers of autistic
children avoided eye contact just as strongly as their affected
siblings.


Find this story at
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...page_id =1797




Eric D. Peterson, M.D., F.A.C.C., Associate Professor of Medicine, Duke
University Medical Center, Durham, NC. Received research grants from
Millenium, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Schering-Plough, and CV Therapeutics.
On the speakers' bureaus for Millennium and Schering-Plough.
(Circulation. 2004;110:2506-49.)

***

All of these companies make vaccines.

TC

JanD wrote:
"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...

wrote:

Mark Probert wrote:


Eric D. Peterson, M.D., F.A.C.C., Associate Professor of Medicine, Duke
University Medical Center, Durham, NC. Received research grants from
Millenium, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Schering-Plough, and CV Therapeutics.
On the speakers' bureaus for Millennium and Schering-Plough.
(Circulation. 2004;110:2506-49.)

***

All of these companies make vaccines.

So? The Dr. Peterson that the articles refers to is in *Colorado* named
Eric Peter Peterson, MD, and the bull**** you posted refers to Eric
David Peterson, MD, the cardiologist. Of course, the other Dr. Eric W.
Peterson, the psychiatrist, also in North Carolina, may have been the
one...nope...his middle intial is 'W'.


I noticed that and was in the process of double-checking it. You are
correct and I apologize to the readers in this ng and Dr Peterson from
Colorado.

When the name is common, checking is necessary. There are even multiple
me's.


But only ONY Mark S. Probert in NY.

The one that was D I S B A R R E D.

Oh, and you forgot to acknowledge your error as TC did. Do you have any
intellectual honesty????

Thanks, interesting read. UM MOM Susan
"Vaccine-man" wrote in message
oups.com...
23/11/05 - Health news section

Autism family link discovered

Relatives of people with autism who do not have the disorder themselves
may still display behaviours and brain differences linked to the
condition, scientists have found.

The discovery could make it easier to spot families at risk of having
an autistic child.

It could also help in the quest to identify the genetic and
environmental triggers for the condition, characterised by emotional
detachment and an inability to relate to others.

Dr Eric Peterson, from the University of Colorado in Denver, USA,
compared the brain scans of 40 parents with autistic children with
those of 40 matched parents whose children were normal.

The parents of autistic children shared several differences in brain
structure with their offspring.

These included an unexpected increase in the size of the motor cortex
and basal ganglia, both areas linked to movement planning and
imitation.

The neighbouring somatosensory cortex, by contrast, was smaller than
average.

This region is important for understanding social information such as
facial expressions - a skill autistic people often lack.

There were also reductions in the cerebellum, important for
co-ordinating movement, and a frontal region thought to play a key role
in understanding the intentions of others.

Another study led by Brendon Nacewicz, from the University of
Wisconsin-Madison Medical School in the United States, tested for
avoidance of eye contact, a common feature of autism.

While parents seemed normal in this respect, brothers of autistic
children avoided eye contact just as strongly as their affected
siblings.


Find this story at
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...page_id =1797
©2005 Associated New Media

On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 15:10:58 -0500, Mark Probert wrote:

wrote:
Vaccine-man wrote:

23/11/05 - Health news section

Autism family link discovered


snipped to save space

Another study led by Brendon Nacewicz, from the University of
Wisconsin-Madison Medical School in the United States, tested for
avoidance of eye contact, a common feature of autism.

Eye contact is a culture specific thing. Not in every country children
are taught this way. In is not necessarily an indication of autistic
tendencies.


While parents seemed normal in this respect, brothers of autistic
children avoided eye contact just as strongly as their affected
siblings.


Find this story at
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...page_id =1797



Eric D. Peterson, M.D., F.A.C.C., Associate Professor of Medicine, Duke
University Medical Center, Durham, NC. Received research grants from
Millenium, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Schering-Plough, and CV Therapeutics.
On the speakers' bureaus for Millennium and Schering-Plough.
(Circulation. 2004;110:2506-49.)

***

All of these companies make vaccines.

So? The Dr. Peterson that the articles refers to is in *Colorado* named
Eric Peter Peterson, MD, and the bull**** you posted refers to Eric
David Peterson, MD, the cardiologist. Of course, the other Dr. Eric W.
Peterson, the psychiatrist, also in North Carolina, may have been the
one...nope...his middle intial is 'W'.

If this shoots a big hole in your conspiracy theory crap, please learn
to live with it.

Does not look like a response to the comment "all these companies make
vaccines". And this fact is very relevant. It is like Philip Morris
financing a study on genetics of lung cancer. Would the researchers find
"familial links"? Most likely, yes. When a patient comes to a doctor's
office for the first time, he/she must answer questions about family
history of diseases, including heart disease, cancer etc. All of them have
genetic components. Autism is no exception.

Of course such a hypothetical study of lung cancer genetics would be a
distraction from other causes. So it is no wonder that vaccine
manufacturers finance a study leading away from environmental causes of
autism. And the latest increase in autism can have only environmental
causes becauses the genes do not mutate that fast.

"mike" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 15:10:58 -0500, Mark Probert wrote:

wrote:
Vaccine-man wrote:

23/11/05 - Health news section

Autism family link discovered


snipped to save space

Another study led by Brendon Nacewicz, from the University of
Wisconsin-Madison Medical School in the United States, tested for
avoidance of eye contact, a common feature of autism.

Eye contact is a culture specific thing. Not in every country children
are taught this way. In is not necessarily an indication of autistic
tendencies.


While parents seemed normal in this respect, brothers of autistic
children avoided eye contact just as strongly as their affected
siblings.


Find this story at

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...althnews.html?
in_article_id=369547&in_page_id=1797



Eric D. Peterson, M.D., F.A.C.C., Associate Professor of Medicine, Duke
University Medical Center, Durham, NC. Received research grants from
Millenium, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Schering-Plough, and CV Therapeutics.
On the speakers' bureaus for Millennium and Schering-Plough.
(Circulation. 2004;110:2506-49.)

***

All of these companies make vaccines.

So? The Dr. Peterson that the articles refers to is in *Colorado* named
Eric Peter Peterson, MD, and the bull**** you posted refers to Eric
David Peterson, MD, the cardiologist. Of course, the other Dr. Eric W.
Peterson, the psychiatrist, also in North Carolina, may have been the
one...nope...his middle intial is 'W'.

If this shoots a big hole in your conspiracy theory crap, please learn
to live with it.

Does not look like a response to the comment "all these companies make
vaccines". And this fact is very relevant. It is like Philip Morris
financing a study on genetics of lung cancer. Would the researchers find
"familial links"? Most likely, yes. When a patient comes to a doctor's
office for the first time, he/she must answer questions about family
history of diseases, including heart disease, cancer etc. All of them have
genetic components. Autism is no exception.

Of course such a hypothetical study of lung cancer genetics would be a
distraction from other causes. So it is no wonder that vaccine
manufacturers finance a study leading away from environmental causes of
autism. And the latest increase in autism can have only environmental
causes becauses the genes do not mutate that fast.


All disease is a composite of genetics and environment. It is rare to have
all of one or the other.

"Mark Probert" wrote in

Now, Jan Drew, do you have enough intellectual honesty to acknowledge
yours?

I guess not. One can be sure that they will misrepresent anything in pushing
their agenda.

wrote:

Mark Probert wrote:


Eric D. Peterson, M.D., F.A.C.C., Associate Professor of Medicine, Duke
University Medical Center, Durham, NC. Received research grants from
Millenium, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Schering-Plough, and CV Therapeutics.
On the speakers' bureaus for Millennium and Schering-Plough.
(Circulation. 2004;110:2506-49.)

***

All of these companies make vaccines.

So? The Dr. Peterson that the articles refers to is in *Colorado* named
Eric Peter Peterson, MD, and the bull**** you posted refers to Eric
David Peterson, MD, the cardiologist. Of course, the other Dr. Eric W.
Peterson, the psychiatrist, also in North Carolina, may have been the
one...nope...his middle intial is 'W'.


I noticed that and was in the process of double-checking it. You are
correct and I apologize to the readers in this ng and Dr Peterson from
Colorado.

TC

Kudo's to you! How often have we not seen in this/these newsgroup(s)
that an error was pointed out to a poster and all we got back were
cursing and insults. This reaction is most refreshing.

JohnDoe wrote:
wrote:

Mark Probert wrote:


Eric D. Peterson, M.D., F.A.C.C., Associate Professor of Medicine, Duke
University Medical Center, Durham, NC. Received research grants from
Millenium, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Schering-Plough, and CV Therapeutics.
On the speakers' bureaus for Millennium and Schering-Plough.
(Circulation. 2004;110:2506-49.)

***

All of these companies make vaccines.


So? The Dr. Peterson that the articles refers to is in *Colorado* named
Eric Peter Peterson, MD, and the bull**** you posted refers to Eric
David Peterson, MD, the cardiologist. Of course, the other Dr. Eric W.
Peterson, the psychiatrist, also in North Carolina, may have been the
one...nope...his middle intial is 'W'.



I noticed that and was in the process of double-checking it. You are
correct and I apologize to the readers in this ng and Dr Peterson from
Colorado.

TC


Kudo's to you! How often have we not seen in this/these newsgroup(s)
that an error was pointed out to a poster and all we got back were
cursing and insults. This reaction is most refreshing.

It is a credibility raising action.

mike wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 15:10:58 -0500, Mark Probert wrote:


wrote:

Vaccine-man wrote:


23/11/05 - Health news section

Autism family link discovered



snipped to save space

Another study led by Brendon Nacewicz, from the University of
Wisconsin-Madison Medical School in the United States, tested for
avoidance of eye contact, a common feature of autism.

Eye contact is a culture specific thing.

Controlled for by using subjects from one culture.

Not in every country children
are taught this way. In is not necessarily an indication of autistic
tendencies.

"Individuals with autism have difficulties with many forms of social
communication, and their gaze processing is impaired at various levels,
such as eye contact, gaze following, joint attention, and understanding
gaze within a mentalistic framework..."

http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/99/14/9602

Scholar Results 1 - 20 of about 5,150 for eye contact autism. (0.18
seconds)


While parents seemed normal in this respect, brothers of autistic
children avoided eye contact just as strongly as their affected
siblings.


Find this story at
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...page_id =1797



Eric D. Peterson, M.D., F.A.C.C., Associate Professor of Medicine, Duke
University Medical Center, Durham, NC. Received research grants from
Millenium, Bristol-Myers Squibb, Schering-Plough, and CV Therapeutics.
On the speakers' bureaus for Millennium and Schering-Plough.
(Circulation. 2004;110:2506-49.)

***

All of these companies make vaccines.

So? The Dr. Peterson that the articles refers to is in *Colorado* named
Eric Peter Peterson, MD, and the bull**** you posted refers to Eric
David Peterson, MD, the cardiologist. Of course, the other Dr. Eric W.
Peterson, the psychiatrist, also in North Carolina, may have been the
one...nope...his middle intial is 'W'.

If this shoots a big hole in your conspiracy theory crap, please learn
to live with it.


Does not look like a response to the comment "all these companies make
vaccines". And this fact is very relevant.

It may be, if the person that was referenced was the right one. However,
the person who was paid by the companies is a cardiologist in North
Carolina, and the physician who did the research is in Colorado.

I'll delete the rest of your paranoid conspiracy crap. Of course, if you
still want to maintaint that there is a relevancy feel free to do so.
You do have the absolute right to be wrong.