Are antidepressant drugs an accomplice in the Virginia Tech shootings?

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The Chicago Tribune reports that Cho Seung Hui, the Virginia Tech shooter
who killed 32 fellow students in a shooting rampage, was taking
antidepressant drugs. This is not the first time a school shooting rampage
has been linked to antidepressants. The infamous Colombine High shootings
took place almost exactly eight years ago, and the shooters in that rampage
were also -- you guessed it -- taking antidepressant drugs.

What is it about antidepressant drugs that provokes young men to pick up
pistols, rifles and shotguns, then violently assault their classmates?
Clearly, there's something wrong with the mind of anyone who engages in such
violent acts. Could the drugs be "imbalancing" their minds, priming them for
violence?

The answer is a very sobering, "Yes, they could be." As we reported in a
previous NewsTarget article on Paxil:

Researchers from Cardiff University in Britain and the Cochrane Centre
examined data on Paxil -- or its generic form, paroxetine -- from
GlaxoSmithKline, legal cases and emails from nearly 1,400 patients who
responded to a British TV program on antidepressants. The researchers found
that 60 out of 9,219 people taking Paxil -- 0.65 percent -- experienced a
"hostility event," compared to 20 out of 6,455 patients taking placebo, or
0.31 percent.

In that same article, published in September, 2006, I stated, "This finding
helps explain why school shootings are almost always conducted by children
who are taking antidepressants. We also know that SSRIs cause children to
disconnect from reality. When you combine that with a propensity for
violence, you create a dangerous recipe for school shootings and other
adolescent violence."

Sadly, that explanation rings true once again with the Virginia Tech
shooting. Wherever we see school violence, antidepressant drugs seem to
found at the scene of the crime. The correlation is not coincidence. There
is a causal link between the two.

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The Chicago Tribune reports that Cho Seung Hui, the Virginia Tech shooter
who killed 32 fellow students in a shooting rampage, was taking
antidepressant drugs.

Here is one of three stories that the Chicago Tribune had about
antidepressants in the last 4 days. None of them mentioned Virgina Tech.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/featur...ck=2&cset=true

This is not the first time a school shooting rampage has been linked to
antidepressants.

It has not been linked to antidepressants.

The infamous Colombine High shootings took place almost exactly eight
years ago, and the shooters in that rampage were also -- you guessed it --
taking antidepressant drugs.

What is it about antidepressant drugs that provokes young men to pick up
pistols, rifles and shotguns, then violently assault their classmates?
Clearly, there's something wrong with the mind of anyone who engages in
such violent acts. Could the drugs be "imbalancing" their minds, priming
them for violence?

Anything is possible. But the people who did the killing also had problems
with depression. It like saying that frequent urination causes diabetes
because people with diabetes pee a lot.

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On Apr 18, 5:23 pm, "Jeff" wrote:


Anything is possible. But the people who did the killing also had problems
with depression. It like saying that frequent urination causes diabetes
because people with diabetes pee a lot.


Except that violence to self or others is a far more common occurrence
with the use of this type of drug than any other category of drugs.

On Apr 18, 5:23 pm, "Jeff" wrote:
Anything is possible. But the people who did the killing also had problems
with depression. It like saying that frequent urination causes diabetes
because people with diabetes pee a lot.

Except that violence to self or others is a common occurrence with the
use of this type of drug even among those who are only mildly
depressed.

"Tim Campbell" wrote in message
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On Apr 18, 5:23 pm, "Jeff" wrote:


Anything is possible. But the people who did the killing also had
problems
with depression. It like saying that frequent urination causes diabetes
because people with diabetes pee a lot.


Except that violence to self or others is a far more common occurrence
with the use of this type of drug than any other category of drugs.

Prove that it is because of the drug rather than a result of the underlying
illness.

Jeff

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On Apr 18, 5:23 pm, "Jeff" wrote:
Anything is possible. But the people who did the killing also had
problems
with depression. It like saying that frequent urination causes diabetes
because people with diabetes pee a lot.

Except that violence to self or others is a common occurrence with the
use of this type of drug even among those who are only mildly
depressed.

How common? Evidence, please.

Jeff

On Apr 18, 7:05 pm, "Jeff" wrote:
"Tim Campbell" wrote in message

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On Apr 18, 5:23 pm, "Jeff" wrote:
Anything is possible. But the people who did the killing also had
problems
with depression. It like saying that frequent urination causes diabetes
because people with diabetes pee a lot.

Except that violence to self or others is a common occurrence with the
use of this type of drug even among those who are only mildly
depressed.

How common? Evidence, please.

Jeff

There is a lot of evidence that antidepresants can
cause an increase in suicide . The FDA has required that warning be
put on these drugs Here's some evidence to show they also increase
other hostile acts. a href = "
http://www.NewsTarget.com/021798.html"Are antidepressant drugs an
accomplice in the Virginia Tech shootings? (opinion)/
a
" Researchers from Cardiff University in Britain and the Cochrane
Centre examined data on Paxil -- or its generic form, paroxetine --
from GlaxoSmithKline, legal cases and emails from nearly 1,400
patients who responded to a British TV program on antidepressants. The
researchers found that 60 out of 9,219 people taking Paxil -- 0.65
percent -- experienced a "hostility event," compared to 20 out of
6,455 patients taking placebo, or 0.31 percent." from News target.
.................................................. .................................................. ......................
See Antidepressants and Violence: Problems at the Interface of
Medicine and Law, by David Healy, Andrew Herxheimer, David B. Menkes)
PLos med article
Highlights more hostile events in antidepressant group than
placebo group about twice as many. More hostile events in HEALTHY
SUBJECTS an antidepressants than on placebo. Any one interested should
look at the research for them

On Apr 18, 8:07 pm, bigvince wrote:
On Apr 18, 7:05 pm, "Jeff" wrote:





"Tim Campbell" wrote in message

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On Apr 18, 5:23 pm, "Jeff" wrote:
Anything is possible. But the people who did the killing also had
problems
with depression. It like saying that frequent urination causes diabetes
because people with diabetes pee a lot.

Except that violence to self or others is a common occurrence with the
use of this type of drug even among those who are only mildly
depressed.

How common? Evidence, please.

Jeff

There is a lot of evidence that antidepressants
cause an increase in suicide . The FDA has required that warning be
put on these drugs Here's some evidence to show they also increase
other hostile acts. a href = "http://www.NewsTarget.com/021798.html"Are antidepressant drugs an
accomplice in the Virginia Tech shootings? (opinion)/
a
" Researchers from Cardiff University in Britain and the Cochrane
Centre examined data on Paxil -- or its generic form, paroxetine --
from GlaxoSmithKline, legal cases and emails from nearly 1,400
patients who responded to a British TV program on antidepressants. The
researchers found that 60 out of 9,219 people taking Paxil -- 0.65
percent -- experienced a "hostility event," compared to 20 out of
6,455 patients taking placebo, or 0.31 percent." from News target.
.................................................. ..........................*....................... ........................
See Antidepressants and Violence: Problems at the Interface of
Medicine and Law, by David Healy, Andrew Herxheimer, David B. Menkes)
PLos med article
Highlights more hostile events in antidepressant group than
placebo group about twice as many. More hostile events in HEALTHY
SUBJECTS an antidepressants than on placebo. Any one interested should
look at the research for them-
- http://medicine.plosjournals.org/per...d.0030372uoted text -
full article

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On Apr 18, 7:05 pm, "Jeff" wrote:
"Tim Campbell" wrote in message

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On Apr 18, 5:23 pm, "Jeff" wrote:
Anything is possible. But the people who did the killing also had
problems
with depression. It like saying that frequent urination causes
diabetes
because people with diabetes pee a lot.

Except that violence to self or others is a common occurrence with the
use of this type of drug even among those who are only mildly
depressed.

How common? Evidence, please.

Jeff

There is a lot of evidence that antidepresants can
cause an increase in suicide . The FDA has required that warning be
put on these drugs Here's some evidence to show they also increase
other hostile acts. a href = "
http://www.NewsTarget.com/021798.html"Are antidepressant drugs an
accomplice in the Virginia Tech shootings? (opinion)/
a
" Researchers from Cardiff University in Britain and the Cochrane
Centre examined data on Paxil -- or its generic form, paroxetine --
from GlaxoSmithKline, legal cases and emails from nearly 1,400
patients who responded to a British TV program on antidepressants. The
researchers found that 60 out of 9,219 people taking Paxil -- 0.65
percent -- experienced a "hostility event," compared to 20 out of
6,455 patients taking placebo, or 0.31 percent." from News target.

.................................................. .................................................. ......................
See Antidepressants and Violence: Problems at the Interface of
Medicine and Law, by David Healy, Andrew Herxheimer, David B. Menkes)
PLos med article
Highlights more hostile events in antidepressant group than
placebo group about twice as many. More hostile events in HEALTHY
SUBJECTS an antidepressants than on placebo. Any one interested should
look at the research for them

You mean like the paper that was published that showed that antidepressents
are safe in kids and teens that was published in JAMA this week?

Jeff

Tim Campbell wrote:
On Apr 18, 5:23 pm, "Jeff" wrote:

Anything is possible. But the people who did the killing also had problems
with depression. It like

saying that frequent urination causes diabetes
because people with diabetes pee a lot.


Except that violence to self or others is a far more common occurrence
with the use of this type of drug than any other category of drugs.

That is because people who have problems with their minds are taking
these medications. They have problems, they take medications.