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A dentist's child abuse crime (also: Pregnant citizens: URGENT)
SUSPECTED (MASS) CHILD ABUSE REPORT * MULTIPLE CRIMES
PREGNANT CITIZENS: URGENT: See esp. the very end of this post... ATTENTION BONNIE M. DUMANIS, San Diego County District Attorney via ... The obvious obstetric crimes discussed at the end of this post are the most urgent emergencies.... But there is also a mass water poisoning crime ongoing across America... Oddly, one dentist who protests the mass water poisoning crime says it can be fatal and calls it ³the greatest single health crime of the century² (see below)... Yet this dentist fails to do the minimum required by law to end it.... INCREDIBLY, this dentist thinks that suspected child abuse doesnıt need to be reported when a mandatory reporter doesnıt think district attorneys will act... A DENTISTıS CHILD ABUSE CRIME... SAN DIEGO DENTIST DR. DAVID KENNEDY IS OBVIOUSLY GUILTY OF THE CHILD ABUSE CRIME OF FAILING TO REPORT SUSPECTED CHILD ABUSE According to the UCLA Investigatorıs Manual for the Protection of Human Subjects: ³Any...child care custodian, medical practitioner [any DENTIST * TG], or non-medical child care practitioner, or employee of a child protective agency who has knowledge of or observes a child who has been abused or reasonably suspects has been the victim of child abuse is required to report the known or suspected instance of child abuse to a child protective agency immediately or as soon as possible by telephone and to prepare and send a written report thereof within 36 hours of receiving the information concerning the incident.ı [Section 11166 of the California Penal Code]...Failure of a health professional to file a required report is a misdemeanor, punishable by a fine of up to $1,000, or confinement in the county jail for up to six months, or both.² http://www.oprs.ucla.edu/human/hspcmanual/10A.htm (NOTE: Suspected child abuse reporting is MANDATORY. Nowhere in the child protection statutes does it say that suspected child abuse should be reported only if the reporter thinks district attorneys, sheriffs or courts will take action to stop the suspected child abuse. I mention this because Oregon dentist BILL OSMUNSON, MPH DDS is moaning, in effect, that complying with the child abuse reporting laws to stop the mass poisoning of children is futile because courts are crooked and district attorneys will ignore suspected child abuse reports. If ALL dentists who suspect child abuse were to start reporting * district attorneys and courts would likely listen finally * ESPECIALLY since Paul Connett, PhD and others (www.fluoridealert.org) have made the case that the massive water poisoning crime is health crime - ³the greatest single health crime of the century² - to quote from Dr. Kennedyıs email to me reproduced below.) DR. DAVID KENNEDY NOTES THAT HE SUSPECTS CRIME.... ³...I too agree that it is or should be a crime and I have done my level best to bring this knowledge to the dental and medical profession and the citizens of this country. [GASTALDO NOTES: Dr. Kennedy is failing to do the MINIMUM required by law to protect children; see above - TG] But your childish bashing [of FAN Exec. Director Paul Connett, PhD * TG] accomplishes nothing of value and is counter productive. Please stop bashing the very people who have done a whole lot more to bring fluoridation to an end than you have. [GASTALDO NOTES: I bashı Paul Connett,, PhD because he is silent about dentists like Dr. Kennedy doing the MINIMUM when child abuse is so much as SUSPECTED * TG] Unless you want to be classified as aiding and abetting this crime I suggest that you stop being part of the problem and begin to make as much an effort in getting the [hydrofluorosilicic acid/fluoride] out of our drinking water as Paul and many others you are barking at have.² [GASTALDO NOTES: Calling for professionals to REPORT crime is hardly aiding and abetting this crimeı!!!!] --Dr. David Kennedy, excerpt of 9/4/05 email to Dr. Gastaldo, full email reproduced below. DR. DAVID KENNEDY SUSPECTS MASS CHILD ABUSE * MASS POISONING OF CHILDREN Dr. Kennedy writes: ³[Fluoridation]...is medical negligence...mandating fluoridation for...Californians...is no less negligent... [D]ental fluorosis, which is the first visible sign of systemic poisoning, increases with water fluoride levels. The Legislative Office of Budget Management [which] acknowledges that drinking water fluoridation would increase disfiguring dental fluorosis...[is] not considering the enormous legal liability for physical and psychological damage which accompany this disfiguring disease...² http://www.nofluoride.com/kennedy_letter.htm The cumulative poison fluoride acts TOPICALLY * it doesnıt even NEED to be in the water. People who want the poison for their childrenıs teeth can have them brush with poisoned toothpaste. Fluoridated toothpaste is indeed poisoned * above and beyond the fluoride poison that is already in ³fluoridated² water. As Dr. Kennedy notes: ³The FDA now requires all toothpaste containing fluoride to have the following warning attached, "WARNING: Keep out of reach of children under 6 years of age. In case of accidental ingestion, seek professional assistance or contact a Poison Control Center immediately." The amount to be used in brushing is a pea sized amount or about 1 milligram. One liter of water in a fluoridated community will contain one milligram.² http://www.nofluoride.com/kennedy_letter.htm DR. DAVID KENNEDY SUSPECTS THE MASS CHILD ABUSE IS CAUSING CANCER IN CHILDREN ³I must stop wasting time on trivia [my failure to report suspected child abuse - TG] and prepare my Power Point slides of the Bassin thesis for my lecture next week.² -- Dr. David Kennedy 9/4/05 email to Dr. Gastaldo The ³Bassin thesis² refers to the recently discovered Harvard PhD thesis of Dr. Elise Bassin whose study offered epidemiologic evidence that some boys drinking fluoridated water will suffer 700% more bone cancer than boys not drinking fluoridated water. Bassinıs epidemiologic bone cancer/fluoridation link recently stimulated eleven EPA unions (Hirzy et al.) to write to the EPA Administrator: "...millions of young boys continue to be exposed unwittingly to the elevated risk of a fatal bone cancer." http://nteu280.org/Issues/Fluoride/f...epa.a.2005.htm DR. DAVID KENNEDY SUSPECTS THE MASS CHILD ABUSE BECOMES MASS ELDER ABUSE - HIP FRACTURE - ³it is about life and death²... ³Fluoride has been tested on humans for the purpose of treating osteoporosis. The theory was that fluoride would strengthen bones. What the researchers found was that it did increase bone mass; however, the bone was much more brittle -- leading to a dramatic increase in hip fracture[5]. Numerous studies have linked long term consumption of fluoridated water to increased risk of hip fracture.[6]...This is not a small matter, it is about life and death. The surgical cost of repairing a hip fracture is $35,000. 25% of the victims die in the first 30 days. Only 11% of the victims ever return to independent living. 100% of the victims are debilitated and few, if any, of the elderly ever regain their former ability to walk normally. The research clearly shows that water Fluoridation increases the number of people who will suffer this devastating injury....Nine of thirteen studies show a correlation between hip fracture and fluoridation, including four published in the Journal of the American Medical Association in the last five years. In matters as serious as the health of our nation, no risk is acceptable if it is avoidable. http://www.nofluoride.com/kennedy_letter.htm DR. KENNEDY WRITES ABOUT PAST CANCER LINKS TO FLUORIDATION ³Research has shown in numerous studies that fluoride is a mutagen (genetic damage), a carcinogen (cancer causing), and cancer promoting in laboratory cell studies, animals, and humans. In 1990 the Congress-ordered National Toxicological Program (NTP) found bone cancers in male rats...The test animals, in the words of the board certified pathologists, "were awash with disease." T he high dose animals had kidney failure and cancers of their lips, cheeks, throats, livers, and bones. The highest rates of cancer were found in the highest dose animals. The lucky rats and mice that drank the distilled fluoride free water had no significant disease. When the actual data indicated a causal relationship between fluoride and bone cancer the NTP down-graded the results to equivocalı...Dr. William Marcus, former senior science advisor at the office of drinking water Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), concluded that the NTP studies proved fluoride was a carcinogen[7]. In July 1997 the National Federation of Federal Employees. the Union representing all of the scientists, toxicologists and statisticians at EPA headquarters, also stated that Our members review of the body of evidence over the last eleven years, including animal and human epidemiological studies, indicate a causal link between fluoride/fluoridation and cancer, genetic damage, neurological impairment, and bone pathology.ı² http://www.nofluoride.com/kennedy_letter.htm DR. DAVID KENNEDY IS ALSO IGNORING HIS SUSPECTED ELDER ABUSE REPORTING OBLIGATION... "Any elder or dependent adult care custodian, health practitioner, or employee of a county adult protective services agency or a local law enforcement agency, who in the scope of his or her employment, either has observed an incident that reasonably appears to be physical abuse, as observed a physical injury where the nature of the injury, its location on the body, or the repetition of the injury, clearly indicates that physical abuse has occurred, or is told by an elder or dependent adult that he or she has experienced behavior constituting physical abuse, shall report the known or suspected instance of physical abuse either to the long-term care ombudsman coordinator or to a local law enforcement agency when the physical abuse is alleged to have occurred in a long-term care facility, or to either the county adult protective services agency or to a local law enforcement agency when the physical abuse is alleged to have occurred anywhere else, immediately or as soon as possible by telephone, and shall prepare and send a written report thereof within 36 hours." [Section 15630(a) of the Penal Code] http://www.oprs.ucla.edu/human/hspcmanual/10A.htm HERE IS DR. KENNEDY WHINING, IN EFFECT, THAT 1) HE CANıT BE BOTHERED DOING THE MINIMUM REQUIRED OF HIM BY LAW * AND 2) PAUL CONNETT, PhD HAS NO OBLIGATION TO URGE DENTISTS WHO SUSPECT CHILD ABUSE TO DO THE MINIMUM REQUIRED BY LAW... Dear Dr. Gastaldo, I am not an attorney but I understand that any citizen can file a complaint and support that with the evidence they have and ask a grand jury to investigate any problem. I suggest that you contact as many attorney generals and grand juries as you possibly can immediately and cease attacking the people who are actually doing something. You may not like what we are doing but so what? Why donıt you do what you think is appropriate? Why you think Paul Connett or anyone else for that matter should spend his time and money promoting your theory about how to stop fluoridation? We each are responsible for expending a considerable amount of their own money and time in fighting this crime. If you want your challenge to get be properly presented I suggest that you consult the very best qualified attorneys familiar with this kind of case law and then pay them to present your case. We are all concerned about fluoridation. I too agree that it is or should be a crime and I have done my level best to bring this knowledge to the dental and medical profession and the citizens of this country. But your childish bashing Paul accomplishes nothing of value and is counter productive. Please stop bashing the very people who have done a whole lot more to bring fluoridation to an end than you have. Unless you want to be classified as aiding and abetting this crime I suggest that you stop being part of the problem and begin to make as much an effort in getting the HFSA out of our drinking water as Paul and many others you are barking at have. Talk is cheap. You should put your money where your mouth is. Reach deep into your pocket and contribute as much money and time to this effort as we have. If and when you do that keep me informed of your success in fighting what Robert Carton called in 1997 the greatest single health crime of the century. Thatıs the last century. Now I must stop wasting time on trivia and prepare my Power Point slides of the Bassin thesis for my lecture next week. Sincerely, David Kennedy BTW: Have you read her thesis yet? DR. GASTALDO ANSWERS DR. KENNEDYıS INQUIRY ABOUT READING THE BASSIN THESIS: David, I do not need to read the Bassin thesis to suspect child abuse and elder abuse. The California Supreme Courtıs 1993 expression of the doctrine of informed consent [THOR; quoted below] indicates that administration of even GOOD medicine without consent is a battery * that is * the California Supreme Court indicates that even if the cumulative poison fluoride PREVENTS osteosarcoma, it is a battery to administer it without consent. AGAIN: Suspected child abuse reporting is MANDATORY. Nowhere in the child protection statutes does it say that suspected child abuse should be reported only if the reporter thinks district attorneys, sheriffs or courts will take action to stop the suspected child abuse. I mention this because Oregon dentist BILL OSMUNSON, MPH DDS is moaning, in effect, that complying with the child abuse reporting laws to stop the mass poisoning of children is futile because courts are crooked and district attorneys will ignore suspected child abuse reports. If ALL dentists who suspect child abuse were to start reporting * district attorneys and courts would likely listen finally * ESPECIALLY since Paul Connett, PhD and others (www.fluoridealert.org) have made the case that the massive water poisoning crime is health crime - ³the greatest single health crime of the century² - to quote from Dr. Kennedyıs email to me reproduced above. HERE IS THE POST TO WHICH DR. KENNEDY WAS RESPONDING.... On 9/3/05 8:25 PM, "Todd Gastaldo" wrote: F CRIME WAS THE FIRST ATOM BOMB TESTED IN CALIF? WHAT IF HARVARD KNEW THE BASSIN STUDY WAS FATALLY FLAWED? STATE ATTORNEY GENERALS MYERS AND SPITZER * SUSPECTED (MASS) CHILD ABUSE See below. USING **ALL** OUR SKILLS... Regarding Bassinıs epidemiologic bone cancer/fluoridation link... PAUL CONNETT PhD wrote in his Fluoride Action Network/FAN CAMPAIGN Bulletin #261: "[W]e have to use ALL our skills to convince people that even one child should not be sacrificed..." (emphasis added) More recently, Bassinıs epidemiologic bone cancer/fluoridation link stimulated eleven EPA unions (Hirzy et al.) to write to the EPA Administrator: "...millions of young boys continue to be exposed unwittingly to the elevated risk of a fatal bone cancer." http://nteu280.org/Issues/Fluoride/f...epa.a.2005.htm ATTORNEY GENERAL SKILLS... ATTENTION New York State Atty Genıl Eliot Spitzer via http://www.oag.state.ny.us/online_forms/email_ag.jsp ATTENTION Oregon Atty Genıl Hardy Meyers (via : SUSPECTED (MASS) CHILD ABUSE REPORT Please use your attorney general skills to stop municipal chemotherapists (elected officials) from administering poisonous chemotherapy to everyone - without medical licenses - without everyoneıs consent. Under the common law doctrine of informed consent * mass water poisoning without everyoneıs consent is illegal * even if it PREVENTS osteosarcoma. An interesting email I received...apparently from an attorney... From: Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 05:00:14 EDT To: , Subject: Fluoride chemotherapy crime: Are municipal chemotherapists immune from pr... Dear tgastaldo: I just read your email. If I understand your position, you consider fluoridation of drinking water a crime. If so you are right. However, If you consider it a crime there must be a defendant and a prosecutor willing to submit the crime to a grand jury. I prosecuted one of the first "informed consent" cases in Texas. I won it, and medical malpractice has not been the same since. However, it was not a criminal case but a civil case. The civil case is based on negligence, the criminal case is based on a criminal law requiring knowledge of the law and an intentional violation of the law. There are laws making it a crime to pollute drinking water, so I think you are correct that there is a pursuable crime involved. Let me hear more from you. ECJr [GASTALDO REMARKS: I thank this writer for his encouragment. I am pretty sure that in Oregon Grand Jurors are in charge * they just donıt know it * they can investigate anything they want - with the District Attorneys or Attorney General working for them * not limiting what they investigate.] ------ End of message from , apparently an attorney, was a recipient of a response I recently received from Paul Connett, PhD, Executive Director of the Fluoride Action Network... I thank him for his remarks. Thanks Earle. CONNETTıS BIZARRE BEHAVIOR... Paul Connettıs call to use ALL our skills does not square with his bizarre refusal to publicize on his website and in his FAN Campaign Bulletin the fact that the common law doctrine of informed consent indicates that fluoridation is a CRIME * battery. Making Paulıs omission still more bizarre is the fact that he repeatedly ASKS (in his 50 QUESTIONS essay) whether it is OK to medicate without consent... Earth to Paul: The common law doctrine of informed consent indicates that it is NOT ok * itıs a CRIME to medicate without consent * even medication with GOOD medicine without consent is a crime. I have been asking myself why Paul is failing to urge people to urge their Members of Congress to BOTH hold the hearings that EPA employee unions are calling for because of the Bassin study AND urge their Members of Congress to demand that state attorney generals immediately end the mass water poisoning... Paul is putting a LOT of eggs into the Bassin fluoride-causes-osteosarcoma basket.... REMEMBER: The common law doctrine of informed consent indicates that administering the cumulative poison fluoride without consent is a crime even if the poison PREVENTS osteosarcoma. WHAT IF THE BASSIN STUDY IS PROVEN FATALLY FLAWED? What if thatıs part of the PLAN of the fluoridationistas? It is interesting that Paul Connett, PhD credited his son Michael Connett for the recent Wall Street Journal coverage of the apparent four year cover-up of Dr. Elise Bassinıs Harvard PhD thesis: "Had not a member of the Fluoride Action Network (my son in fact) gone to the rare books section of the Harvard Library, and copied the relevant chapter of Bassins thesis, the public-at-large would never have heard of this work (see WSJ, B1, July 22, 2005)." FORGET Harvardıs alleged cover-up guy Chester Douglass - why did DR. ELISE BASSIN remain silent for four years? Did Elise not understand the import of her own thesis?! After all, once her thesis was discovered (by Michael Connett), it suddenly stimulated eleven EPA unions (Hirzy et al.) to write: "...millions of young boys continue to be exposed unwittingly to the elevated risk of a fatal bone cancer." http://nteu280.org/Issues/Fluoride/f...epa.a.2005.htm What WAS Elise Bassin thinking for four years?! Was she threatened that she would be ruined if she said anything? (Did anyone else see Paul Newman in The Verdict? A nurse was forced to change a chart when a patient died. She quit nursing * but came back as Newmanıs star witness in the case.) OR... What if Harvard FRAUDULENTLY issued Elise Bassin her PhD KNOWING that her PhD thesis was fatally flawed? This too would tend to keep one silent about oneıs thesis... What if Harvard is ACTIVELY WORKING to keep the atom bomb/fluoridation link covered-up? (Hopefully, everyone has read the Chris Brysonıs incredible book The Fluoride Deception [2004].) I mention these possibilities because...well...Paulıs glaring acts of omission are quite disturbing... HARVARD AND THE ATOM BOMB... Harvard President James Conant, was a central player in the fluorine-dependent development of the atom bomb... ...which MAY have included intentionally blowing up Black sailors at Port Chicago in California... Nuclear or not, the story of the 1944 explosion at Port Chicago in Contra Costa County, California is amazing. In 1995, Harry Martin wrote: Port Chicago was rebuilt in one week after its destruction. Two hundred black sailors died in the explosion. * There was a Navy mutiny at Port Chicago after the blast. * The Navy was photographing the entire blast from across the Bay. * In a top secret report on a nuclear detonation after Port Chicago, the notes state that it was a "Port Chicago-type" explosion in similarity and form. * One of the highest rates of cancer in the United States is in Contra Costa County. http://www.sonic.net/sentinel/usa5.html In 1994, David Caul and Susan Todd mentioned then-Harvard Pres. James Conant... ²There is yet another letter in the paper trail leading back to a suspected nuclear explosion at Port Chicago. This letter was first made public in the Napa Sentinel magazine in February 1994. James Conant, who was a member of the board of directors of the Manhattan Project referred to a full-scale test of the weapon in a letter to General Groves. In the letter he indicated that the secret test occurred shortly before August 1944. The Port Chicago explosion took place on July 17, 1944. The explosion Conant refers to was a year before the Trinity test, which has officially been documented as the first atomic test.² http://www.sonic.net/sentinel/usa4.html I wrote in a 2001 usenet post: Captain Parsons, the naval commander at Port Chicago was promoted to commodore immediately after the explosion and was aboard the Enola Gay when it dropped the bomb on Hiroshima, after which he was made a rear admiral. *Before the explosion at Port Chicago, Parsons had been stationed at Los Alamos where the atom bomb was being developed in the Manhattan Project. [See the Napa Sentinel series of articles on the subject beginning in 1990 with Martin HV. A mushroom cloud: what really happened at Port Chicago in 1944 and culminating with Caul D, Todd S. Port Chicago: epilog - it was a nuclear blast. Napa Sentinel (Aug5)1994, 925 Lincoln Ave., Napa, CA 94558, tel. (707) 757-4200.] According to the Napa Sentinel, there is a paper trail. *A Los Alamos document describing nuclear detonation reportedly states, "Ball of fire mushrooms out at 18,000 ft in typical Port Chicago fashion"; and Harvard president James Conant, a member of the board of directors of the Manhattan Project, reportedly mentions in a letter to General Leslie Groves that a secret test occurred shortly before August 1944. *Most interestingly, the figures in Conant's report to Groves about the secret 1944 test reportedly match exactly the damage report Captain Parsons wrote after the Port Chicago explosion. [Napa Sentinel 1994, cited above.] I will copy this to: David Caul and Susan Todd via http://www.sonic.net/sentinel/usa5.html With that PORT CHICAGO preface, I now move to Eleanorıs email (see below) praising ³our beloved² Paul Connett and nicely trashing of me for deigning to publicly question Paul Connettıs bizarre omissions (see above). Eleanor, I scanned your email quickly and did not see your last name. I assume you are Eleanor Krinsky, a member of Paul Connettıs ³National Dream Team.² I liked that you referred to mass water poisoning (³fluoridation²) as ³the child abuse (and adult abuse) that is going on.² But you forgot to mention the key point at issue * Paul is failing to publicize the fact that the common law doctrine of informed consent indicates that medication even with good medicine is a battery. I mention your omission because, of course, the common law doctrine of informed consent is the REASON that (as you indicate) the mass water poisoning is child abuse * battery against children is child abuse. ³THE PROPER THING² You wrote that ³it does not appear optimistic to look to Attorney Generals to do the proper thing to remedy the child abuse...² It does not appear TO YOU (or to ³our beloved² Paul Connett) that attorney generals can be counted on. In fact, remedying child abuse is the proper JOB of attorney generals! And TELLING attorney generals about child abuse is the job of dentists who so much as SUSPECT it * i.e. - the ³proper thing² - when one so much as SUSPECTS child abuse * is to report it * and this reporting ³thing² is so ³proper² that it is MANDATORY if one is a licensed health professional who encounters children manifesting overt evidence of fluoride poisoning. Dentists who see dental fluorosis should report the dental fluorosis as SUSPECTED child abuse and they should name as the suspected perpetrators the municipal chemotherapists (elected officials) who are doing the illegal poisoning. REMEMBER: Paul wrote in his Fluoride Action Network/FAN CAMPAIGN Bulletin #261: "[W]e have to use ALL our skills to convince people that even one child should not be sacrificed..." (emphasis added) With "...millions of young boys continue to be exposed unwittingly to the elevated risk of a fatal bone cancer." http://nteu280.org/Issues/Fluoride/f...epa.a.2005.htm It is time for Paul to mention the crime aspect of the mass water poisoning * and call upon Members of Congress to both hold their hearings and urge state attorney generals to SIMPLY DO THEIR JOB and remedy the mass child abuse finally. Or he could say itıs my idea and itıs crazy * but he should at least mention it. You wrote: ³[E]veryone has the right to act independently and can pursue this course if they so choose. Nothing ventured, nothing gained...² Actually, mandatory suspected child abuse reporters among us (including and esp. dentists who suspect abuse) MUST pursue this course... But ANYONE may report. St. Petersburg Times staff writer Michael Sandler apparently reported my suspected child abuse report: "[An opponent] filed a complaint with the Sheriff's Office on Wednesday, suggesting [Pinellas County public officials] Talley and Heilman should be charged with 'child abuse.'" http://stpetetimes.com/2004/07 /09/Tampabay/Chemists_criticiz e_fl.shtml St. Petersburg Times staff writer Michael forgot to report that I said I don't want Talley or Heilman punished - I just want municipalities to stop injecting toxic waste into drinking water... See Chemically beating children: Dr. Gastaldo's SUSPECTED CHILD ABUSE REPORT to Pinellas County Sheriff Everett Rice... http://health.groups.yahoo.com /group/chiro-list/message/2646 If I were a boy about to have my limb amputated - possibly because I had been drinking a cumulative poison that does not need to be in the water - I would want EVERYONE to be reporting the water poisoning crime as child abuse. But that's just me. FAN's Paul Connett, PhD said people would laugh if people started filing suspected child abuse reports. I don't think any boys about to have a limb amputated because of osteosarcoma would laugh. Probably their parents wouldn't laugh either. Indeed, MOST people - once informed - might start reporting... TO OREGON ANTI-FLUORIDE PROTESTERS: The State of Oregon says: "ALL OREGON CITIZENS ARE ENCOURAGED TO REPORT SUSPECTED [CHILD ABUSE] TO DHS OR LAW ENFORCEMENT. Over 25 percent of the substantiated cases of child abuse are reported by concerned citizens who are not required to report. Failure to report is a violation and carries a maximum penalty of $1,000.00. Mandatory reporters have also been successfully sued for damages in civil court for failing to report.İ http://www.oregon.gov/DHS/chil dren/abuse/cps/report.shtml Eleanor, in conceding that reporting suspected child abuse is an option wrote: ³but one should not depend on the outcome, nor should one put off more hopeful activities to turn the fluoridation tide.² I am NOT putting off what Eleanor believes is a ³more hopeful activity²!!! I signed the POWA petition (signature 577) and encourage others to do so * as I encourage them ALSO to urge their Members of Congress to demand that attorney generals simply DO THEIR JOB. I have also noted that EACH STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL SHOULD IMMEDIATELY CONTACT CDC... BECAUSE (I say again): "At issue is...CDC...trampling on the human right to informed consent..." --The International Institute of Concern for Public Health (IICPH) quoted in Paul Connett's FAN CAMPAIGN BULLETIN #257 (July 9, 2005) Fortunately, CDC's Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry/ATSDR "work[s] with states and other federal agencies to prevent exposure to hazardous substances from waste sites." http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/DRO/r 1.html "Fluoridation" is the hazardous substance (hydrofluorosilicic acid w/ arsenic and lead) from phosphate fertilizer waste sites/scrubbers being injected into America's water supply. (Some municipalities are using "pure" poison - sodium fluoride.) While it is always good to contact one's Congressional representative with concerns, when CRIME is being committed, one petitions/reports to the EXECUTIVE branch of government - law enforcement. Fluoridation could end before Congress has to get involved. My further comments are interspersed ##### in Eleanorıs email.... Hi everyone: Sorry for this long e-mail. Read the parts you want and have time for. I wanted to give my input on two inter-connected matters: (1) Dr. Todd Gestaldo's frustration and insistence that his approach be followed of primarily directing efforts on State Attorney Generals. (I will convey our own experience in this regard below), and ##### ³My² approach is the approach of the State of Oregon. When child abuse so much as SUSPECTED, mandatory reporters who suspect it MUST report it. Do dentists who support FAN suspect child abuse when they see evidence of fluoride poisoning (dental fluorosis)? Has anyone asked them? Bill Osmunson, DDS, MPH * do you? Remember, all one has to do is SUSPECT it * and report the crime. See above. (2) Dr. Gestaldo's unfairly directing his fault-finding toward Dr. Paul Connett in not followng Dr. Gestaldo's approach.. ##### I am biased of course, but I think I am being QUITE fair * I am doing BOTH. Paul is only doing ONE. Yet he says we should use ALL our skills. We are all so busy in our joint efforts to make as much progress as possible in our present major project in support of the remarkable 11 EPA Unions to bring about a national moratorium and full Congressional hearing, as well as keeping up with the daily tasks of our local or statewide group.. Thus, it is a pity to take any time out that should be devoted to encouraging and producing as many letters, phone calls, e-mails, faxes and visits to Congressional offices as possible, and of course, as many to sign on to the Protect Our Water Alliance Online Petition. But I find myself compelled to doing just that. ##### Eleanor, I am glad you took time out to indicate that the mass water poisoning is child abuse and adult abuse. Matter #1: I agree wholeheartedly with the others who have written to stand up for our beloved Paul Connett. ##### Paul does a lot of things right * but his glaring error of omission disturbs me greatly. Some boys may be having legs amputated because of the mass water poisoning * yet Paul is ignoring LEGAL reports! Failing to urge people * including and especially supportive dentists * if they so much as SUSPECT child abuse when they see evidence of fluoride poisoning (dental fluorosis). He is as fine a person anyone could have the privilege of knowing. ##### Yes, he does seem a fine person * except for the glaring acts of omission. He and his wonderful family (Ellen, his wife, and Mike, his son) have sacrificed so much for this cause. #### Yes! How cool that Paulıs son Michael brought the Bassin paper to the worldıs attention! (See Paulıs comment quoted above.) We will be everlastingly grateful for all they have done and continue to do. ##### The glaring acts of omission * they are disturbing. Paul has given us continuing guidance, leadership and inspiration. I also consider him our mentor, responding to one's questions, spending his time to so generously provide us with technical knowledge, scientific enlightenment, and help in so many things that have come up. And on top of all his responsibilities and long hours he puts in, he maintains his patience, thoughtfulness, pleasant disposition and sense of humor. I had the privilege of being in Chicago to join Paul Connett and the terrific group of people he put together to picket the 60th fluoridation"celebration" in Chicago held jointly by the private group ADA, and the government's CDC. We made our mark, and the pro-fluoridation zealots won't soon forget us. We also met with several receptive. Illinois legislators. Paul did not stop for a moment and even when his leg was hurting him, and we had to walk a distance, he visibly limped along in discomfort, not complaining and not letting it deter him from our agenda. He is one outstanding, honorable, one-in-a- million person. He came along at this time of fluoridation's history as though summoned from above. ##### Hmmmm.... ³Summoned from above²... The fluoride polluters very likely would LOVE to have someone at head of the pack, running the pack away from the obvious: The common law doctrine of informed consent indicates that fluoridation is a CRIME- battery * and battery against children is child abuse * with MANDATORY reports if child abuse is so much as SUSPECTED. See above. It is unthinkable and absolutely preposterous that anyone should question Paul's character, integrity or motivation. ###### It is actually ESSENTIAL to question glaring acts of omission. Now to Dr. Gestaldo's grievances, I did want to express the fact that we appreciate every opponent of fluoridation, whether on ethical, medical, dental, scientific, environmental or economic grounds, or a combination of reasons. ##### Thank you, Eleanor. I appreciate your efforts * including your expression of support for Paul. I found him to be quite charming when we spoke on the phone. We must not become adversaries because we are on the same side.. I hope Dr. Gestaldo will reconsider his harsh attitude toward anyone who may have another approach. ##### It is Paul who harbors the harsh attitude toward someone (me) who has another approach * another approach that happens also to be the approach of every state in the union when child abuse is so much as SUSPECTED. See above. Over the years there has been a variety of ways, methods, avenues, strategies and approaches we and others have used. None of us have crystal balls. We are all volunteers, working under the handicap of meager funds trying to accomplish major things against the greatest odds. What may work during a particular period of time, or in a particular area, may not work at another time or in another area. I see no problem in someone tactfully giving constructive observations and suggestions to consider, of course, but just as we oppose the rule of force that fluoridation represents, we should follow the same attitude in making suggestions to each other. ##### Paul could MENTION (on his website and in his FAN Campaign Bulletin) that the common law doctrine of informed consent indicates that fluoride is a crime * battery * and that battery against children is child abuse * and that dentists who suspect child abuse/fluoride poisoning when they see dental fluorosis should immediately report in accord with the law * and that others may do so as well. (Again, the State of Oregon ENCOURAGES such reports from anyone who suspects child abuse.) No matter what, mutual courtesy and respect is a good thing for our overall goals. Let's leave the fighting among the pro-fluoridation pushers. ##### Paulıs glaring acts of omission disturb me greatly. I do not find Paul to be exhibiting ³mutual courtesy and respect² - to me * or to children who deserve the protection of the child protection statutes. Matter #2: Being a part of an organization, New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation, Inc., for over 30 years, we have also tried a variety of methods, including from time to time, writing to the State Attorney General's Office. The rules on fluoridation vary according to one's state. For instance, in NYS, we have in writing from our NYS Attorney General's office, in response to a NYS Senator in 1982 who wrote on our behalf, that fluoridation is not considered a proper subject for a referendum. Evidently they want to leave it up to legislators, not citizens. In NYS no initiative referendums are permitted to force a referendum. Actually, our position on referendums is that a referendum is the lesser of two evils, a referendum or a mandate,. Of course, a referendum is preferable to a mandate. Ideally, taking care of one's teeth should be an INDIVIDUAL decision, not a community decision. We have copies of letters in our files since the 1980s addressed to the New York State Attorney General. Also, we had a member who knew then NYS Attorney General Robert Abrams personally in previous causes they both worked in, and he wrote to him in May 1984 and enclosed some information, asking him to look into this. ##### No mention of the common law doctrine of informed consent. Maybe it was not yet settled common law? In 1986, a letter from then Attorney General Abram's office to one of our members, informed her that although the EPA has proposed to increase the federal MCL to 4.0 mg/l, NYS standard will remain at 2.2 mg/l, and they have kept to that word to this day (not that 2.2 mg/l is justifiable either). In 1990, we wrote to Attorney General Abrams again, updating information and enclosing a number of items including the C&EN report of 1988, etc. On June 9, 1993, Janet Nagel, Ed. at that time residing in Bellingham, Washington and very active in the Health Action Network along with Anne Anderson, wife of Dr. Foulkes, came up with a new approach. She wrote to the State of Washington's Attorney General Christine Gregoire, motivated by the efforts and the documents of New Jersey Assemblyman John V. Kelly and his discovery that the U.S. FDA had never approved prescription fluoride supplements commonly prescribed to infants and children in the State of Washington and all over the country. Evidence of safety and effectiveness is required for FDA approval under federal law. Janet wrote a very well written letter, providing important information, and she wound up her letter by stating, "In the absence of federal regulations which afford appropriate protection of the public from the hazards of fluoride, I believe state action should be considered. I would like to know your evaluation of this matter." #### BRAVO Janet Nagel! Janet Nagel of the Health Action Network in Bellingham, got a reply from Christine O. Gregoire, Attorney General, stating: "Thank you for your letter of June 9 regarding the dangers of fluoride. ...Until I received your letter, I was unaware that there were any questions regarding the use of fluoride. As I am not very familiar with these issues I have asked Russell Morris of my staff to look into it further...." I am not aware that anything further came of this.. ##### I believe Christine O. Gregoire is now the chief law enforcement officer (governor) for Washington State? On August 2, 1993, because of Janet Nagel's action, we at NYSCOF got a letter out to OUR NYS Attorney General Robert Abrams, using the same approach regarding NJ Assemblyman Kelly's discovery that fluoride supplements never obtained FDA approval of safety and effectiveness. We requested their examination, evaluation and assistance. Of course, nothing definitive came of our request. On August 24, 1993, we received an answer from Shirley Stark, Assistant Attorney General, which briefly but significantly stated, "Thank you for your letter of August 2nd. We have sent a copy of your letter to the New York State Department of Health so that we can get their input on the issue of the safety of fluoride supplements. Once we receive their response we will be in touch with you to discuss the matter further. We appreciate your bringing this matter to our attention." (boldness added) (Note: No surprise that they turned to the NYS Department of Health, which is typical., Don't remember hearing from them further. We ourselves I suppose should have pursued it further at that time, but it is impossible to keep up with everything, we are so diluted. We opponents of fluoridation do not have the luxury of staff, resources, facilities, etc., so it is hard to do everything we want to do, or follow up on everything. ##### When it is SUSPECTED that children are being abused en masse, it is ILLEGAL for mandatory reporters to FAIL report. In June, 2004: After Christopher Bryson's THE FLUORIDE DECEPTION came out, Carol Patton was in touch with us, suggesting we contact our NYS Attorney General Eliot Spitzer. We did not see any e-mail number for him, so we wrote to him via his web site on June 8, 2004. I don't believe we ever heard from him. Again, we did not write again, because we were involved in many other organizational activities. ##### As indicated above, I have copied this to New York State Attorney General Eliot Spitzer via http://www.oag.state.ny.us/online_forms/email_ag.jsp Maryland's Bernie Miltenberger's e-mail of 9/1/05 gave everyone important information as to what we are up against with law enforcement and lawsuits. The bottom line comes down to "POLICE POWER" (what a terrible expression and what a terrible policy). Bernie and his group went through the mill trying to win his lawsuit to defeat fluoridation. Their perseverance was unbelievable, but in the end they came up against this stone wall of Police Power. As he explained in his e-mail to Todd Gestaldo: --------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Todd, * ****I don't know you, but your remarks about Paul and child battery are a little over the top.* If you actually ever spent money to hire an attorney to try to fight water fluoridation at the Federal or State levels like the Pure Water Committee of Western Maryland, Inc. has done and the wonderful Jeff Green and*company are trying to do, you would have run right up against this wall as follows:* * Community fluoridation scored a big victory last month in the Escondido fluoridation case. The plaintiffs had challenged the city's plan to fluoridate its water; the lower court ruled in the city's favor; and the plaintiffs appealed. A key quote from the appellate court's opinion: "[C]ourts through[out] the United States have uniformly held that fluoridation of water is a reasonable and proper exercise of the police power in the interest of public health.... The matter is no longer an open question." This case was a great example of behind-the-scenes advocacy by ADA staff, who provided expertise and support for the state attorneys. The lead attorney credits the ADA's recent Fluoridation Symposium as being essential in arming her for the oral argument. * An Attorney General or States Attorney worth his salts that*studies case law*on water fluoridation would state that numerous court case show that water fluoridation to be*a reasonable and proper exercise of police power in the intent of public health.* Your battery charges would be fall on deaf ears.* Dr. Connett, Ellen, and Mike are people that I consider personal friends with honor and integrity that few*people possess.* I hope in the future that you can refrain from personal attacks on Paul's character.* This movement needs your energy* to be focused on the goals of the National Dream Team.* * Good Day, * Bernard W. Miltenberger -------------------------------------------------------------- (end of Bernie Miltenberger's e-mail) ##### Here is how I responded to Bernieıs email.... Paul Connett recently quoted the appellate court's decision in the anti-fluoride movement's recent loss in Escondido: "[C]ourts through[out] the United States have uniformly held that fluoridation of water is a reasonable and proper exercise of the police power in the interest of public health.... The matter is no longer an open question." Bernie Miltonberger of Paul's National Dream Team quoted the appellate court for me and wrote: "An Attorney General or States Attorney worth his salts...would state that numerous court case show that water fluoridation to be a reasonable and proper exercise of police power in the intent of public health." Bernie, I would reply to those Attorney Generals and States Attorneys: Only in emergencies - i.e. epidemics - where public health is threatened is compulsory medication - i.e. Vaccination - a legitimate police power. And this latter legitimate police power is OPTIONAL - i.e. - people can get religious or philosophical exemptions in most states. Note well: If the mass poisoning called fluoridation is the obvious fraud that Paul Connett indicates it is (see www.fluoridealert.org), then all those courts throughout the United States that "uniformly held that fluoridation of water is a reasonable and proper exercise of police power" - wittingly or unwittingly participated in the fraud. It would be poetic justice to finally see "police power" - state attorney generals - use Paul Connett's web site and STOP this bizarre "exercise of police power" that has the cumulative poison fluoride being injected into America's drinking water. Accordingly, I am again cc'ing my state's attorney general, Hardy Myers via . I urge others to contact their state's attorney general - and to contact their Members of Congress and urge that they do the same. It was a post with that idea that moved members of Paul's "National Dream Team" to say "terrific!" (Gene Burke) and "great!!" (Crystal Harvey) #### Eleanor continued.... We in New York also came up with that same wind-up in the lawsuit commenced around 1979 to try to stop fluoridation in New York City, mandated since 1965. Dr. John Yiamouyiannis and lawyer, John Remington Graham, were key people in this lawsuit for our side, the plaintiff's. In the end, the Judge sent us back to the legislators if we wanted to change the law. In other words, it doesn't matter according to them that people are being harmed, it is jurisdiction that counts along with its Police Power. ###### No mention of the common law doctrine of informed consent. Also, there is the matter of Bassin epidemiologic osteosarcoma/fluoridation link. First, attorney generals must be interested though. (Or grand jurors can act on their own - see my comment in Earleıs email above.) Letters from Members of Congress urging them to immediately stop the mass water poisoning would be immensely helpful - as would suspected child abuse reports about the mass battery from FAN-affiliated dentists who suspect child abuse when they see dental fluorosis. While it does not appear optimistic to look to Attorney Generals to do the proper thing to remedy the child abuse (and adult abuse) that is going on, everyone has the right to act independently and can pursue this course if they so choose. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, but one should not depend on the outcome, nor should one put off more hopeful activities to turn the fluoridation tide. ##### One can do BOTH - as I have done. Paul engages in a glaring act of omission - he calls for us to use ALL our skills - but doesnıt even MENTION asking Members of Congress to urge state attorney generals to end the mass water poisoning because itıs medication without consent - battery - even as he ASKS (in his famous 50 Reasons essay) whether it is OK to medicate without consent. ##### Paul recently wrote that he "won't go along with my strategy for ending water fluoridation." #### As I indicated in the post to which Paul was responding... #### Part of my strategy is to deconstruct the pristine euphemism and call "fluoridation" what it is - exposure to hazardous substances from waste sites. #### Part of my strategy is to contact CDC's Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry/ATSDR - for two reasons (mentioned above - but here they are again).... 1. CDC's Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry/ATSDR "work[s] with states and other federal agencies to prevent exposure to hazardous substances from waste sites." http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/DRO/r 1.html 2. Hazardous substances (hydrofluorosilicic acid, arsenic and lead) - derived from waste sites (phosphate fertilizer pollution scrubbers) - are being injected into America's water supply. (Some municipalities are using "pure" poison - sodium fluoride.) #### I've written to employees of CDC's Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry/ATSDR, juxtaposing these two key facts and urging CDC/ATSDR employees to simply do their job and prevent exposure to hazardous substances from waste sites. ##### Paul, have YOU written to employees of CDC's Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry/ATSDR, juxtaposing these two key facts and urging CDC/ATSDR employees to simply to their job and prevent exposure to hazardous substances from waste sites? ##### Have you used your FAN Campaign Bulletin to urge others to similarly write to CDC/ATSDR employees? #### I suspect the answer is no - but I would love to hear otherwise. ##### If I am right about Paul remaining silent about the CDC/ATSDR matter, that too is a glaring act of omission. Our present joint activity is to back up Dr. Bill Hirzy and the 11 EPA Unions in their call for a national fluoridation moratorium and full Congressional hearing, giving testimony under oath and subject to cross-examination. So fellow fluoridation-fighters, we'll carry on and give it our best. Regards to all, Eleanor ##### Thanks for writing Eleanor. ##### I hope youıll get behind urging Paul to end his glaring acts of omission. ##### At the very least Paul could MENTION the crime aspect - the suspected child abuse aspect. If he disagrees - if he still is worried about people laughing at him - he could say that - but at least all the people who visit his site would see ³my² recommended option - which also happens to be an ³option² that is MANDATORY for mandatory suspected child abuse reporters who suspect dental fluorosis is evidence that child abuse is occuring. Again, I donıt think boys about to have their legs amputated would laugh at the idea of suspected child abuse reporting to stop the mass water poisoning. ##### I hope that FAN-affiliated dentists will start reporting immediately - and call upon Members of Congress to urge state attorney generals to take immediate action. ##### REMEMBER: PAUL CONNETT PhD wrote in his Fluoride Action Network/FAN CAMPAIGN Bulletin #261: "[W]e have to use ALL our skills to convince people that even one child should not be sacrificed..." (emphasis added) ##### REMEMBER ALSO: Bassinıs epidemiologic bone cancer/fluoridation link stimulated eleven EPA unions (Hirzy et al.) to write to the EPA Administrator: "...millions of young boys continue to be exposed unwittingly to the elevated risk of a fatal bone cancer." http://nteu280.org/Issues/Fluoride/f...epa.a.2005.htm ###### Congress really doesnıt have to get involved - except perhaps to urge state attorney generals to finally DO THEIR JOB - with CDC/ATSDR. Even if the mass water poisoning PREVENTS osteosarcoma, itıs simply illegal to poison children (and adults) without a medical license - without everyoneıs consent. ###### Thank you Eleanor for referring to the mass water poisoning (³fluoridation²) as ³the child abuse (and adult abuse) that is going on.² ##### Sincerely, ##### Todd ##### Dr. Gastaldo Hillsboro, Oregon This post will be archived for global access in the Google usenet archive. Search http://groups.google.com for ³F Crime: First atom bomb tested in Calif? What if Harvard knows the Bassin study is flawed?² PREGNANT CITIZENS AND SAN DIEGO COUNTY DA BONNIE M. DUMANIS... It is estimated that breastfeeding will reduce by 100 times the amount of the cumulative poison fluoride that your baby will receive (relative to feeding your baby infant formula reconstituted with fluoridated water). Also... ³AIDING AND ABETTING²... Dr. Kennedyıs claim that I am ³aiding and abetting² the mass water poisoning crime by urging people to report it reminds me.... Retired obstetrician George Malcolm Morley, MB ChB FACOG said I was aiding and abetting mass child abuse after I pointed out that he should be reporting American medicineıs most frequent surgery as child abuse. American MDs routinely perform IMMEDIATE umbilical cord clamping/cutting - a permanent umbilical cord asphyxiation which forces the baby to breathe with his/her lungs before he/she is ready and robs the baby of up to 50% of blood volume. According to Dr. Morley, the baby asphyxiation/baby blood robbery happens to EVERY CESAREAN BABY. Incredibly - instead of reporting the mass child abuse - Dr. Morley recommends an obviously illegal TEMPORARY umbilical cord asphyxiation experiment to help obstetricians demonstrate to themselves that they should not permanently asphyxiate babiesı umbilical cords and rob them of up to 50% of their blood volume. Here is Dr. Morleyıs obviously illegal temporary baby asphyxiation experiment.... "[T]he umbilical cord [is] immediately closed between finger and thumb...The [fetal heart rate/FHR] will decelerate quickly to about 60 bpm...the color will change from purple-pink (normal at birth) to pallid blue (vaso-constriction and asphyxia.)...Few midwives or obstetricians will be able to observe...a deep, prolonged FHR deceleration on a non-breathing newborn for a period of 60 seconds.* Common sense will soon release the finger and thumb." http://www.cordclamping.com/ac og-cp.htm PREGNANT WOMEN: To make sure your baby gets the "extra" up to 50% of blood, tell the obstetrician not to clamp the cord until it stops pulsating and your baby is pink and breathing and not in need of resuscitation. Obstetricians are committing other obvious crimes - like routinely/senselessly closing birth canals up to 30% - as they surgically/fraudulently (episiotomy/c-section) pretend they are doing/have done everything possible to open the birth canal... With birth canals senselessly closed the ³extra² up to 30%, obstetricians are also pulling with hands, forceps and vacuums - sometimes pulling so hard they rip spinal nerves out of tiny spinal cords. Some babies die - some get paralyzed - most ³only² suffer gruesome wrenching of their spines. (With the birth canal senselessly closed the ³extra² up to 30%, ALL spinal manipulation is gruesome.) PREGNANT LADIES: To learn how easy it is to allow your birth canal to OPEN the ³extra² up to 30%... See Arresting obstetricians - Lt. Bill Hunt: 11165PC Suspected (Mass) Child Abuse Report http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group...t/message/3848 I will copy Oregon Atty Genıl Hardy Myers via . I wonıt copy Fluoride Action Network/FAN Exec. Director Paul Connett, PhD because he has asked that I stop ³attacking² him. (Paul feels I am ³attacking² because I am publicly calling attention to his bizarre failure to urge dentists to simply report the obvious mass child abuse water poisoning crime. Dr. Kennedy was echoing Paulıs whining.) This post in response to San Diego dentist Dr. David Kennedy will be archived for global access in the Google usenet archive. Search http://groups.google.com for ³A dentistıs child abuse crime² 
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