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Old September 10th 07, 04:02 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.immunology,sci.med.nursing,talk.politics.medicine
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Default Vaccinations & SIDS ... on ongoing concern

On Sep 9, 5:12 pm, TheGuffster wrote:
On Sep 9, 1:17 pm, wrote:



OK, ya maroon. Have your considered these reports and the associated
"peer reviewed" data?

A study undertaken at the University of California, Los Angeles, under
the sponsorship of the Food and Drug Administration, and which has
been confirmed by other studies, links DPT (diphtheria, pertussis,
tetanus) vaccination, and more specifically the pertussis component,
to sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS). This study found that 53 of
145 SIDS victims whose families were interviewed had received a DPT
vaccination within 4 weeks. The authors conclude that "the excess of
deaths in the 24 hours and first week following immunization and the
absence of deaths in the fourth week following immunizations were
significant." They call for more studies to substantiate their
findings, despite the fact that this is already the third
investigation, and all 3 have pointed in the same direction.
(Pediatric Infectious Disease Journal, 1983. Possible temporal
association between diphtheria - tetanus toxoid - pertussis
vaccination and sudden infant death syndrome. Baraff, L.J., Ablon,
W.J., Weiss, R.C.)
"These data show that DPT vaccination may be a generally unrecognised
major cause of sudden infant and early childhood death, and that the
risks of immunisation may outweigh its potential benefits. A need for
re-evaluation and possible modification of current vaccination
procedures is indicated by this study." William C. Torch, M.D.,
Director of Child Neurology, Department of Paediatrics, University of
Nevada School of Medicine
A 1994 study found that children diagnosed with asthma (a respiratory
ailment not unlike SIDS) were five times more likely than not to have
received pertussis vaccine.(110) Another study found that babies die
at a rate eight times greater than normal within three days after
getting a DPT shot.(111) The three primary doses of DPT are given at
two months, four months, and six months. About 85 percent of SIDS
cases occur at one through six months, with the peak incidence at age
two to four months.

As far as "the chain of infection" is concerned, Alice in wonderland
makes more believeable reading.
The germ theory of disease causation is medical fraud. Honest
scientists and MDs have proven it false over 100 years ago. Your pipe
dreams cannot make me ill...or get me to shoot up with mercury, and
aluminum laden puss.

DrCee
Not a member of the church of modern medicine.

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Old September 10th 07, 05:31 PM posted to misc.kids.health
Jeff
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Default Vaccinations & SIDS ... on ongoing concern

wrote:
On Sep 9, 5:12 pm, TheGuffster wrote:
On Sep 9, 1:17 pm, wrote:



OK, ya maroon.


Intelligent talk for a "doctor."

Have your considered these reports and the associated
"peer reviewed" data?

A study undertaken at the University of California, Los Angeles, under
the sponsorship of the Food and Drug Administration, and which has
been confirmed by other studies, links DPT (diphtheria, pertussis,
tetanus) vaccination, and more specifically the pertussis component,
to sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS). This study found that 53 of
145 SIDS victims whose families were interviewed had received a DPT
vaccination within 4 weeks. The authors conclude that "the excess of
deaths in the 24 hours and first week following immunization and the
absence of deaths in the fourth week following immunizations were
significant." They call for more studies to substantiate their
findings, despite the fact that this is already the third
investigation, and all 3 have pointed in the same direction.
(Pediatric Infectious Disease Journal, 1983. Possible temporal
association between diphtheria - tetanus toxoid - pertussis
vaccination and sudden infant death syndrome. Baraff, L.J., Ablon,
W.J., Weiss, R.C.)


You'd be happy to know that the DPT vaccination is no longer used.
Instead, a safer DaPT is used instead.

Jeff

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Old September 11th 07, 02:44 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med.immunology,sci.med.nursing,talk.politics.medicine
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Default Vaccinations & SIDS ... on ongoing concern

On Sep 10, 11:02 am, wrote:
A study undertaken at the University of California, Los Angeles, under
the sponsorship of the Food and Drug Administration, and which has
been confirmed by other studies, links DPT (diphtheria, pertussis,
tetanus) vaccination, and more specifically the pertussis component,
to sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS). This study found that 53 of
145 SIDS victims whose families were interviewed had received a DPT
vaccination within 4 weeks. The authors conclude that "the excess of
deaths in the 24 hours and first week following immunization and the
absence of deaths in the fourth week following immunizations were
significant." They call for more studies to substantiate their
findings, despite the fact that this is already the third
investigation, and all 3 have pointed in the same direction.
(Pediatric Infectious Disease Journal, 1983. Possible temporal
association between diphtheria - tetanus toxoid - pertussis
vaccination and sudden infant death syndrome. Baraff, L.J., Ablon,
W.J., Weiss, R.C.)



This isn't even listed on their web page. So if you can find it please
post it.
http://www.pidj.com/
Otherwise I'll assume you're making it up!


"These data show that DPT vaccination may be a generally unrecognised
major cause of sudden infant and early childhood death, and that the
risks of immunisation may outweigh its potential benefits. A need for
re-evaluation and possible modification of current vaccination
procedures is indicated by this study." William C. Torch, M.D.,
Director of Child Neurology, Department of Paediatrics, University of
Nevada School of Medicine


You mean the one where the AMA made Dr. Torch tell a press conference
(the next day) that it was all based on anecdotal evidence because he
had no proof? That speech? Seeing as the guy that made the quote
actually took it back, I would tend not to believe that one either!

A 1994 study found that children diagnosed with asthma (a respiratory
ailment not unlike SIDS) were five times more likely than not to have
received pertussis vaccine.(110) Another study found that babies die
at a rate eight times greater than normal within three days after
getting a DPT shot.(111) The three primary doses of DPT are given at
two months, four months, and six months. About 85 percent of SIDS
cases occur at one through six months, with the peak incidence at age
two to four months.


Do you have a citation for this mystery evidence? If you base all of
your assumptions on this crappy "evidence". Then GOD help anyone that
listens to anything you say!

As far as "the chain of infection" is concerned, Alice in wonderland
makes more believeable reading.
The germ theory of disease causation is medical fraud. Honest
scientists and MDs have proven it false over 100 years ago. Your pipe
dreams cannot make me ill...or get me to shoot up with mercury, and
aluminum laden puss.


Whether you believe the chain of infection or not, if someone has a
microorganism on them then they can give it to you! The germ theory of
disease has been proven time and time and time again.
You are just too much of a moron to understand it.
So,it doesn't matter if you personally get vaccinated or take any
antibiotics. When you are too weak and delirious to move or make your
own decisions , then it is implied consent and the doctors and nurses
will give it to you anyway. Because they know that germs don't care if
you believe in the germ theory, those germs just want some cozy
dumbass to grow in, and you will be the dumbass of the day! And you
will continue to be that dumbass, because you are a moron, and
eventually those microorganisms will kill you. At least you'll be able
to write on your headstone "I didn't believe in the germ theory of
disease" and one of us,on this message board that know better, will
come along and scratch right below that "Yeah but the germs did
dumbass!"



 




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