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Old August 16th 03, 04:52 PM
Simpledog
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Long story short. My ex and I 'renegotiated' CS based upon guidelines (I
was paying less but saving for their college, etc.), we both signed the
County's paperwork, sent it in. She also put in to 'garnish' my wages,
which, although irritating, saves me the step of having to send her a check,
so no big deal. However, we're in California......we turned the paperwork
in 2 months ago, and they haven't modified the CS out, at least as far as
what is being taken out of my check. How long does this take, generally?
And, can they go back and say "Hey, you signed this on 1 May, you owe the
extra money for the past 3 months!"....or do I have to wait for them to
formally tell me, and/or just start taking it out of my check? Like I said,
we both signed and agreed to the new amount on or about 1 June.


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Old August 19th 03, 05:03 AM
Chris Owens
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Simpledog wrote:

Long story short. My ex and I 'renegotiated' CS based upon guidelines (I
was paying less but saving for their college, etc.), we both signed the
County's paperwork, sent it in. She also put in to 'garnish' my wages,
which, although irritating, saves me the step of having to send her a check,
so no big deal. However, we're in California......we turned the paperwork
in 2 months ago, and they haven't modified the CS out, at least as far as
what is being taken out of my check. How long does this take, generally?
And, can they go back and say "Hey, you signed this on 1 May, you owe the
extra money for the past 3 months!"....or do I have to wait for them to
formally tell me, and/or just start taking it out of my check? Like I said,
we both signed and agreed to the new amount on or about 1 June.


You need to get in touch with the relevant office and find out
what has happened to the paperwork. It should have been
processed by now.

Chris Owens


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Old August 19th 03, 05:03 AM
Chris Owens
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Simpledog wrote:

Long story short. My ex and I 'renegotiated' CS based upon guidelines (I
was paying less but saving for their college, etc.), we both signed the
County's paperwork, sent it in. She also put in to 'garnish' my wages,
which, although irritating, saves me the step of having to send her a check,
so no big deal. However, we're in California......we turned the paperwork
in 2 months ago, and they haven't modified the CS out, at least as far as
what is being taken out of my check. How long does this take, generally?
And, can they go back and say "Hey, you signed this on 1 May, you owe the
extra money for the past 3 months!"....or do I have to wait for them to
formally tell me, and/or just start taking it out of my check? Like I said,
we both signed and agreed to the new amount on or about 1 June.


You need to get in touch with the relevant office and find out
what has happened to the paperwork. It should have been
processed by now.

Chris Owens


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Old August 19th 03, 06:49 AM
Tracy
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"Simpledog" wrote in message
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I've sent them 3 letters.

Nothing.



Call. Walk in and visit them.


Tracy
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"Chris Owens" wrote in message
...
Simpledog wrote:

Long story short. My ex and I 'renegotiated' CS based upon guidelines

(I
was paying less but saving for their college, etc.), we both signed

the
County's paperwork, sent it in. She also put in to 'garnish' my

wages,
which, although irritating, saves me the step of having to send her a

check,
so no big deal. However, we're in California......we turned the

paperwork
in 2 months ago, and they haven't modified the CS out, at least as far

as
what is being taken out of my check. How long does this take,

generally?
And, can they go back and say "Hey, you signed this on 1 May, you owe

the
extra money for the past 3 months!"....or do I have to wait for them

to
formally tell me, and/or just start taking it out of my check? Like I

said,
we both signed and agreed to the new amount on or about 1 June.


You need to get in touch with the relevant office and find out
what has happened to the paperwork. It should have been
processed by now.

Chris Owens


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Old August 19th 03, 06:49 AM
Tracy
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"Simpledog" wrote in message
...
I've sent them 3 letters.

Nothing.



Call. Walk in and visit them.


Tracy
~~~~~~~
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"You can't solve problems with the same
type of thinking that created them."
Albert Einstein

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"Chris Owens" wrote in message
...
Simpledog wrote:

Long story short. My ex and I 'renegotiated' CS based upon guidelines

(I
was paying less but saving for their college, etc.), we both signed

the
County's paperwork, sent it in. She also put in to 'garnish' my

wages,
which, although irritating, saves me the step of having to send her a

check,
so no big deal. However, we're in California......we turned the

paperwork
in 2 months ago, and they haven't modified the CS out, at least as far

as
what is being taken out of my check. How long does this take,

generally?
And, can they go back and say "Hey, you signed this on 1 May, you owe

the
extra money for the past 3 months!"....or do I have to wait for them

to
formally tell me, and/or just start taking it out of my check? Like I

said,
we both signed and agreed to the new amount on or about 1 June.


You need to get in touch with the relevant office and find out
what has happened to the paperwork. It should have been
processed by now.

Chris Owens


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Old August 20th 03, 12:23 AM
The DaveŠ
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wrote:


I dealt with the San Francisco Child Support office (then part of the
DA's Office).

If you pay in advance, they'll likely later claim you didn't pay and
attempt to say you are in arrears. That is what the DA's office in
S.F. did to me. Unless they receive the payment, it's as if it
wasn't made.

I did show them canceled checks and eventually they corrected the
problem (and sent me a small refund).

So... either wait for them to tell you what you owe and pay it or pay
it voluntarily and you'll likely be told you didn't make the
voluntary payments and you'll have to offer proof that you did (make
any payments via check with "child support" witten in the memo line
to make sure they don't classify it as a "gift".)


The "gift" thing is absurd (on the part of the courts), but you're
right, the OP needs to be aware of it.

Also note that if you own real estate in California, the DA's office
will place a lein on the property "just in case" you don't pay your
child support. It's the standard mode of operation. You are not
"innocent util proven guilty". You are "guilty even if innocent"
with this procedure (I have never been behind in my child support.)

It's a corrupt and inefficient system but unfortunately, you have no
choice but to deal with it.


They (the government) like it when we roll over and say 'nothing can be
done'.
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Old August 20th 03, 12:23 AM
The DaveŠ
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wrote:


I dealt with the San Francisco Child Support office (then part of the
DA's Office).

If you pay in advance, they'll likely later claim you didn't pay and
attempt to say you are in arrears. That is what the DA's office in
S.F. did to me. Unless they receive the payment, it's as if it
wasn't made.

I did show them canceled checks and eventually they corrected the
problem (and sent me a small refund).

So... either wait for them to tell you what you owe and pay it or pay
it voluntarily and you'll likely be told you didn't make the
voluntary payments and you'll have to offer proof that you did (make
any payments via check with "child support" witten in the memo line
to make sure they don't classify it as a "gift".)


The "gift" thing is absurd (on the part of the courts), but you're
right, the OP needs to be aware of it.

Also note that if you own real estate in California, the DA's office
will place a lein on the property "just in case" you don't pay your
child support. It's the standard mode of operation. You are not
"innocent util proven guilty". You are "guilty even if innocent"
with this procedure (I have never been behind in my child support.)

It's a corrupt and inefficient system but unfortunately, you have no
choice but to deal with it.


They (the government) like it when we roll over and say 'nothing can be
done'.
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Old August 20th 03, 02:42 PM
~August
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"The DaveŠ" wrote in message
...
wrote:


So... either wait for them to tell you what you owe and pay it or pay
it voluntarily and you'll likely be told you didn't make the
voluntary payments and you'll have to offer proof that you did (make
any payments via check with "child support" witten in the memo line
to make sure they don't classify it as a "gift".)


The "gift" thing is absurd (on the part of the courts), but you're
right, the OP needs to be aware of it.


I learned from this board about the "gift" factor and also find it to be
goofy. But when i paid my ex CS for summer, i not only wrote "Child
Support" in the memo line, i also wrote "this is not a gift".

~August


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Old August 20th 03, 02:42 PM
~August
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"The DaveŠ" wrote in message
...
wrote:


So... either wait for them to tell you what you owe and pay it or pay
it voluntarily and you'll likely be told you didn't make the
voluntary payments and you'll have to offer proof that you did (make
any payments via check with "child support" witten in the memo line
to make sure they don't classify it as a "gift".)


The "gift" thing is absurd (on the part of the courts), but you're
right, the OP needs to be aware of it.


I learned from this board about the "gift" factor and also find it to be
goofy. But when i paid my ex CS for summer, i not only wrote "Child
Support" in the memo line, i also wrote "this is not a gift".

~August


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Old August 20th 03, 05:30 PM
The DaveŠ
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~August wrote:

So... either wait for them to tell you what you owe and pay it or
pay it voluntarily and you'll likely be told you didn't make the
voluntary payments and you'll have to offer proof that you did
(make any payments via check with "child support" witten in the
memo line to make sure they don't classify it as a "gift".)


The "gift" thing is absurd (on the part of the courts), but you're
right, the OP needs to be aware of it.


I learned from this board about the "gift" factor and also find it to
be goofy. But when i paid my ex CS for summer, i not only wrote
"Child Support" in the memo line, i also wrote "this is not a gift".


I wonder if that would fly? For example, you cannot legally write a
check of $200 to your credit card company and say "payment in full"
when the legitimate balance is $750. It's clear what your intention
is, and I agree with you, but I have no trust that "the system" will do
the right thing.
 




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