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What is in those Vaccinations?????
"Vaccine-man" wrote in message oups.com... It's simple chemistry, really. You *have* had chemistry, haven't you? I mean, surely, you don't voice opinions on issues you know nothing about, right? you do http://www.whale.to/v/rapp.html |
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What is in those Vaccinations?????
john wrote: http://www.whale.to/v/rapp.html "John Randall" doesn't exist. He's a fictitious character made up by the anti-vac whackos. |
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What is in those Vaccinations?????
You titled this thread as "What is in those Vaccinations?????" Since
ethylene glycol is in some vaccines, I'd say it is the subject. Plus, you're trying to obfuscate the facts, so I am compelled to correct you. |
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What is in those Vaccinations?????
Jan Drew wrote:
"Mark Probert" TELLING THE TRUTH AGAIN: Jan Drew wrote: "Mark Probert" wrote in message ... Ilena Rose wrote: http://www.opposingdigits.com/vaccines/ I find it fascinating that want-to-be but never was Pediatrician Jeff Utz believes that a substance like thimerosal toxic on contact with the skin is totally benign when pumped into the bodies of infants. http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...WatchWatch.htm If I pout 1 gallon of dihydrogen monoxide on your head, it is relatively benign. If I pour the same amount down your throat, you are dead. The method of administration does often determine the effects. Advertising for Boyd "Kids with Autism have MAD Child Disease" Haley, deleted. Restored Advertising for Boyd "Kids with Autism have MAD Child Disease" Haley, deleted. |
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What is in those Vaccinations?????
"Mark Probert" wrote in message ... Jan Drew wrote: "Mark Probert" TELLING THE TRUTH AGAIN: Jan Drew wrote: "Mark Probert" wrote in message ... Ilena Rose wrote: http://www.opposingdigits.com/vaccines/ I find it fascinating that want-to-be but never was Pediatrician Jeff Utz believes that a substance like thimerosal toxic on contact with the skin is totally benign when pumped into the bodies of infants. http://www.BreastImplantAwareness.or...WatchWatch.htm If I pout 1 gallon of dihydrogen monoxide on your head, it is relatively benign. If I pour the same amount down your throat, you are dead. The method of administration does often determine the effects. Advertising for Boyd "Kids with Autism have MAD Child Disease" Haley, deleted. Restored Advertising for Boyd "Kids with Autism have MAD Child Disease" Haley, deleted. Mark, this exacerbation of your echolalia is troubling to me. It is a sign that you have to work harder to stop repeating yourself. |
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What is in those Vaccinations?????
"Vaccine-man" wrote in message oups.com... You titled this thread as "What is in those Vaccinations?????" Since ethylene glycol is in some vaccines, Oh how nice!!! I'd say it is the subject. Thanks for sharing! D U H... Plus, you're trying to obfuscate the facts, so I am compelled to correct you. Let's all add *ethylene glycol* to the list! |
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What is in those Vaccinations?????
"Vaccine-man" wrote in message ups.com... john wrote: http://www.whale.to/v/rapp.html "John Randall" doesn't exist. He's a fictitious character made up by the anti-vac whackos. That's Dr.MARK Randall [proof already posted] AND Jon Rappoport http://www.buildfreedom.com/tribute/jon_rappoport.html |
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What is in those Vaccinations?????
Ilena Rose wrote:
http://www.opposingdigits.com/vaccines/ Ohh look, yet another page filled with the typical ignorance and lies propigated by the anti-vaccine group. No idea of how vaccines are made, no idea what these components are, no idea of what components of the process actually end up in the vaccines, and no idea of what is removed before sale. And no idea of the safety standards and purity requirements... Basic deconstruction of the list: Gelatin, chick embryo/egg/fluid, human/other cells, serum proteins, soy protein, yeast, etc: Used to support the growth of the virus/bacteria used to generate the vaccine. Viruses require living cells to grow (hence the use of eggs or animal cells). The rest (gelatin, serum, etc) are components of the media used to grow the cells. According to FDA rules, before sale all of these components must be removed from the vaccine. So listing them as ingredients is an out-and-out lie. Kinda like listing "dirt" as an ingredient for bread. It was used to grow the wheat, but isn't rpesent in the bread itself. Various microbes: Vaccines are designed to protect us from microbes. The way they do this is by exposing our body to parts of microbes, or to dead microbes, or to living (but impaired) microbes. This gives our immune system a chance to respond to the pathogen with no/minimal risk of actual disease. After this exposure the immune system "remembers" the pathogen, and thus if you are exposed to it again your body can readily fight it off. To put this into context, it takes your body upto 2 weeks to respond effectively to a pathogen the first time you are exposed - that's two weeks in which the pathogen can ravage your body. Memory responses are much faster, and usually take less then a day. So complaining about microbial components in your vaccines is rather stupid - making a vaccine without these would be like making bread without flour. Simply put, without these components the vaccine wouldn't do a thing. Antibiotics: Used in the culture of viruses and some bacteria, to prevent bacterial infections of the culture system. Due to the high rates of antibiotic allergies among people the FDA requires that these be removed before packaging. So it's not actually in the vaccine. Once again you are lying about the contents of the vaccines... Sorbitol & lactose: Sugars. You eat these every day; they're found in milk products, candy, and other sources. Perfectly safe. And usually removed from the final product to help prevent bacterial growth in the vaccine. Aluminum hydroxide (alum), polysorbate: Adjuvents. Required to make the vaccine work. Without them you may as well inject water. Polysorbate is also a common ingredient in foods. These two compounds are used as they are extremely safe at the doses used. Animal/laboratory vaccines use much more potent adjuvents (freunds, for example), but these are not used in people as the risk of a sever reaction is too high. Making vaccines without adjuvents would be like making bread without yeast. Glycerin/glycerol: Thickening agent and emulsifier. Harmless; your body produces glycerin as a breakdown product of many lipids. Can also be used as an energy source by your body, or used by your body in the synthesis of various phospholipids. Major component of skin moisturizers and soaps. Phenol, formaldehyde, 2-phenoxyethenol: Organic compounds used in the preparation/preservation of the vaccine. Toxic at high doses, but present in vaccines in trace amounts. Some are produced by our bodies, particularly in the liver. As an example, your liver produces trace amounts of formaldehyde as a natural part of it's metabolism (usually during the breakdown of alcohol-containing compounds). Every 3 hours your liver will produce about the same amount of formaldehyde that is present in an vaccine. You'll recieve more phenol from living in a house with carpets then you will recieve from vaccines (phenol is a common ingredient of carpet glue). Thimerosal: A mercury-containing preservative. There was some suggestion in the 90's that thimerosal may cause autism or mercury poisoning. Both of these have since been disproved - there is absolutely no link between autism and vaccines what-so-every, and it also been shown that the amount of free mercury (i.e. toxic mercury) released from your average vaccine injection is about the same as the amount of mercury you receive eating a tuna salad sandwich. Even so, due to public pressure thermisol is being replaced in many vaccines with alternative preservatives. When compared to the risk of the diseases we're vaccinating against, worrying about the unlikely toxic effects of this preservative is like worrying about second-hand smoke when your trapped in a burning building. Monosodium glutamate (MSG), aspartame: Amino-acid derivatives, derived from glutamic acid and aspartic acid respectively. Used in the cell culture stage to provide the cells with amino-acids required for cell growth. Largely removed during processing, and can be used by our bodies for the synthesis of proteins, or can be broken down for energy. Also commonly used as food additives. There is a slight allergy risk with MSG, hence why it is usually removed from the final product. Phosphate-buffered saline (PBS): Simply a saline solution which is pH regulated by the addition of phosphate. This is injected (either as straight saline, or as PBS) frequently into patients. Probably the most commonly injected substance in medicine. Used medically to replace fluid after dehydration or blood loss. Use in vaccines to provide a safe fluid to suspend the vaccine in. Can be made in a variety of ways, and may contain: potassium chloride, potassium phosphate monobasic, potassium phosphate dibasic, sodium bicarbonate, sodium phosphate dibasic, and sodium chloride. All of these components exist naturally in our bodies - in fact, PBS is specifically designed to mimic the natural levels of these components in our bodies, and thus replicate the fluids in our body accurately. Also used in the culture of the cells used to make vaccines. thimerosal toxic on contact with the skin is totally benign when pumped into the bodies of infants. Wrong! Not even close to being toxic. A very small portion of the population (about 3 in 10,000) will undergo an allergic response to thermisol when if they are exposed to it on their skin. This reaction is known as a allergic dermatitis, akin to the response people have when exposed to poison ivy (i.e. itching, redness). Although irritating it represents no threat what-so-ever to the patient. Due to the nature of these responses (properly referred to as hapten-carrier reactions), the risk of a reaction via injection is minimal as the body can only respond to thermosil when it is linked to specific skin protein(s). Because injected vaccines are placed below the keritinized layer of the skin, the chance of this conjugate forming is minimal, and therefore the risk of a response is also minimal. Even if a response occurs it tends to be very similar to your average allergic response - nasal congestion. Hardly a "toxic" response, and a small price to pay. Ironically, the #1 risk of taking vaccines - anaphylaxis - wasn't even mentioned by you. Makes one wonder if you're even vaguely aware of how vaccines or the immune system work. If you don't want to be vaccinated that is your business, but you shouldn't be passing off these lies as truth. Although the fact that you use lies to push your agenda is a pretty good indicator of just how honest you are, and speaks volumes about the credibility of your arguments. At the end of the day vaccines have saved millions of lives; you seem to want those people to die. why is that? Bryan |
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What is in those Vaccinations?????
Bryan Heit wrote:
http://www.opposingdigits.com/vaccines/ Ohh look, yet another page filled with the typical ignorance and lies propigated by the anti-vaccine group. No idea of how vaccines are made, no idea what these components are, no idea of what components of the process actually end up in the vaccines, and no idea of what is removed before sale. And no idea of the safety standards and purity requirements... Basic deconstruction of the list: Gelatin, chick embryo/egg/fluid, human/other cells, serum proteins, soy protein, yeast, etc: Used to support the growth of the virus/bacteria used to generate the vaccine. Viruses require living cells to grow (hence the use of eggs or animal cells). The rest (gelatin, serum, etc) are components of the media used to grow the cells. According to FDA rules, before sale all of these components must be removed from the vaccine. So listing them as ingredients is an out-and-out lie. Kinda like listing "dirt" as an ingredient for bread. It was used to grow the wheat, but isn't rpesent in the bread itself. Various microbes: Vaccines are designed to protect us from microbes. The way they do this is by exposing our body to parts of microbes, or to dead microbes, or to living (but impaired) microbes. This gives our immune system a chance to respond to the pathogen with no/minimal risk of actual disease. After this exposure the immune system "remembers" the pathogen, and thus if you are exposed to it again your body can readily fight it off. To put this into context, it takes your body upto 2 weeks to respond effectively to a pathogen the first time you are exposed - that's two weeks in which the pathogen can ravage your body. Memory responses are much faster, and usually take less then a day. So complaining about microbial components in your vaccines is rather stupid - making a vaccine without these would be like making bread without flour. Simply put, without these components the vaccine wouldn't do a thing. Antibiotics: Used in the culture of viruses and some bacteria, to prevent bacterial infections of the culture system. Due to the high rates of antibiotic allergies among people the FDA requires that these be removed before packaging. So it's not actually in the vaccine. Once again you are lying about the contents of the vaccines... Sorbitol & lactose: Sugars. You eat these every day; they're found in milk products, candy, and other sources. Perfectly safe. And usually removed from the final product to help prevent bacterial growth in the vaccine. Aluminum hydroxide (alum), polysorbate: Adjuvents. Required to make the vaccine work. Without them you may as well inject water. Polysorbate is also a common ingredient in foods. These two compounds are used as they are extremely safe at the doses used. Animal/laboratory vaccines use much more potent adjuvents (freunds, for example), but these are not used in people as the risk of a sever reaction is too high. Making vaccines without adjuvents would be like making bread without yeast. Glycerin/glycerol: Thickening agent and emulsifier. Harmless; your body produces glycerin as a breakdown product of many lipids. Can also be used as an energy source by your body, or used by your body in the synthesis of various phospholipids. Major component of skin moisturizers and soaps. Phenol, formaldehyde, 2-phenoxyethenol: Organic compounds used in the preparation/preservation of the vaccine. Toxic at high doses, but present in vaccines in trace amounts. Some are produced by our bodies, particularly in the liver. As an example, your liver produces trace amounts of formaldehyde as a natural part of it's metabolism (usually during the breakdown of alcohol-containing compounds). Every 3 hours your liver will produce about the same amount of formaldehyde that is present in an vaccine. You'll recieve more phenol from living in a house with carpets then you will recieve from vaccines (phenol is a common ingredient of carpet glue). Thimerosal: A mercury-containing preservative. There was some suggestion in the 90's that thimerosal may cause autism or mercury poisoning. Both of these have since been disproved - there is absolutely no link between autism and vaccines what-so-every, and it also been shown that the amount of free mercury (i.e. toxic mercury) released from your average vaccine injection is about the same as the amount of mercury you receive eating a tuna salad sandwich. Even so, due to public pressure thermisol is being replaced in many vaccines with alternative preservatives. When compared to the risk of the diseases we're vaccinating against, worrying about the unlikely toxic effects of this preservative is like worrying about second-hand smoke when your trapped in a burning building. Monosodium glutamate (MSG), aspartame: Amino-acid derivatives, derived from glutamic acid and aspartic acid respectively. Used in the cell culture stage to provide the cells with amino-acids required for cell growth. Largely removed during processing, and can be used by our bodies for the synthesis of proteins, or can be broken down for energy. Also commonly used as food additives. There is a slight allergy risk with MSG, hence why it is usually removed from the final product. Phosphate-buffered saline (PBS): Simply a saline solution which is pH regulated by the addition of phosphate. This is injected (either as straight saline, or as PBS) frequently into patients. Probably the most commonly injected substance in medicine. Used medically to replace fluid after dehydration or blood loss. Use in vaccines to provide a safe fluid to suspend the vaccine in. Can be made in a variety of ways, and may contain: potassium chloride, potassium phosphate monobasic, potassium phosphate dibasic, sodium bicarbonate, sodium phosphate dibasic, and sodium chloride. All of these components exist naturally in our bodies - in fact, PBS is specifically designed to mimic the natural levels of these components in our bodies, and thus replicate the fluids in our body accurately. Also used in the culture of the cells used to make vaccines. thimerosal toxic on contact with the skin is totally benign when pumped into the bodies of infants. Wrong! Not even close to being toxic. A very small portion of the population (about 3 in 10,000) will undergo an allergic response to thermisol when if they are exposed to it on their skin. This reaction is known as a allergic dermatitis, akin to the response people have when exposed to poison ivy (i.e. itching, redness). Although irritating it represents no threat what-so-ever to the patient. Due to the nature of these responses (properly referred to as hapten-carrier reactions), the risk of a reaction via injection is minimal as the body can only respond to thermosil when it is linked to specific skin protein(s). Because injected vaccines are placed below the keritinized layer of the skin, the chance of this conjugate forming is minimal, and therefore the risk of a response is also minimal. Even if a response occurs it tends to be very similar to your average allergic response - nasal congestion. Hardly a "toxic" response, and a small price to pay. Ironically, the #1 risk of taking vaccines - anaphylaxis - wasn't even mentioned by you. Makes one wonder if you're even vaguely aware of how vaccines or the immune system work. If you don't want to be vaccinated that is your business, but you shouldn't be passing off these lies as truth. Although the fact that you use lies to push your agenda is a pretty good indicator of just how honest you are, and speaks volumes about the credibility of your arguments. At the end of the day vaccines have saved millions of lives; you seem to want those people to die. why is that? Bryan Welcome to the world of the anti-vac liars. Why they do it is a mystery, but, they do it. If Autism was totally disproven to be vaccine related, they would come up with another scary disease to fear monger to parents. |
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What is in those Vaccinations?????
"Bryan Heit" wrote in message ... Just one: Antibiotics: Used in the culture of viruses and some bacteria, to prevent bacterial infections of the culture system. Due to the high rates of antibiotic allergies among people the FDA requires that these be removed before packaging. So it's not actually in the vaccine. Once again you are lying about the contents of the vaccines... Why does it say 25 mcg of neomycin on the package insert them? "Each dose of the vaccine contains sorbitol (14.5 mg), sodium phosphate, sucrose (1.9 mg), sodium chloride, hydrolyzed gelatin (14.5 mg), human albumin (0.3 mg), foetal bovine serum (1 ppm), other buffer and media ingredients and approximately 25 mcg of neomycin. The product contains no preservative". http://www.whale.to/m/mmr11.html At the end of the day vaccines have saved millions of lives; you seem to want those people to die. why is that? Study the real history, rather than flaunt your lies here http://www.whale.to/vaccines/smallpox14.html Aluminum hydroxide ... These two compounds are used as they are extremely safe at the doses used. Animal/laboratory vaccines use much more potent adjuvents (freunds, for example), but these are not used in people as the risk of a sever reaction is too high. Making vaccines without adjuvents would be like making bread without yeast. Vancouver neuroscientist Chris Shaw shows a link between the aluminum hydroxide used in vaccines, and symptoms associated with Parkinson's, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS, or Lou Gehrig's disease), and Alzheimer's....."This is suspicious," he told the Georgia Straight in a phone interview from his lab near Heather Street and West 12th Avenue. "Either this [link] is known by industry and it was never made public, or industry was never made to do these studies by Health Canada. I'm not sure which is scarier." Similar adjuvants are used in the following vaccines, according to Shaw's paper: hepatitis A and B, and the Pentacel cocktail, which vaccinates against diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, polio, and a type of meningitis...."No one in my lab wants to get vaccinated," he said. "This totally creeped us out. We weren't out there to poke holes in vaccines. But all of a sudden, oh my God-we've got neuron death!"Another important factor with regard to mercury on the mind, which officials at the CDC, FDA and the professors in the IOM do not consider, is synergistic toxicity - mercury's enhanced effect when other poisons are present. A small dose of mercury that kills 1 in 100 rats and a dose of aluminum that will kill 1 in 100 rats, when combined have a striking effect: all the rats die. Doses of mercury that have a 1 percent mortality will have a 100 percent mortality rate if some aluminum is there. Vaccines contain aluminum. http://www.whale.to/vaccines/woolley.html.htm "We have demonstrated the toxicity of thimerosal by using it to kill neurons in culture. At 50 nanomolar thimerosal the neuron killing capacity/rate is about doubled with the addition of levels of aluminium found in vaccines. The aluminium alone at this level is not demonstrated to be toxic, so it is enhancing the toxicity of the thimerosal. It likely does this by increasing the rate that thimerosal breaks down releasing ethylmercury which is the toxic material" -------Testimony Prof Boyd Haley, University of Kentucky, Chair and Head of Chemistry....... Gupta RK, Relyveld EH.Adverse reactions after injection of adsorbed diphtheria-pertussis-tetanus (DPT) vaccine are not due only to pertussis organisms or pertussis components in the vaccine. Vaccine. 1991 Oct;9(10):699-702. Review.PMID: 1759487; UI: 92101590 Aluminium compounds such as aluminium phosphate and aluminium hydroxide are the most commonly used adjuvants with vaccines for human use. Due to the increasing concern about the toxicity of aluminium, other adjuvants like calcium phosphate may be evaluated as an alternative to aluminium adjuvants. To minimize reactions after immunization with DPT vaccine due to impurities in the toxoids, the use of toxoided purified toxins is suggested. |
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