August 24 DC Protest - Vaccine-Autism Activists Join In

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Actually, the latest issue of New Scientist makes a very convincing
case, based on epidemioglogical work, that thimerosol has absolutely
nothing to do with the incidence of autism (there is also a website,
www.NewScientist.com). The reason they had a feature on autism is that
here in Europe, a very large number of people are just as convinced
that autism is being caused not by Thimerosol, but by the MMR vaccine -
which has also been shown not to be the case. The change in the number
of people being diagnosed is apparently down to the criteria used for
diagnosis. Perhaps being too close to the issue makes it more
difficult to be objective? Here, panic among the general public caused
MMR vaccination rates to drop significantly, which has actually
endangered lives - a very sad consequence of understandable fears,
possibly worsened by inaccurate or alarmist media coverage.


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Actually, the latest issue of New Scientist makes a very convincing
case, based on epidemioglogical work, that thimerosol has absolutely
nothing to do with the incidence of autism (there is also a website,
www.NewScientist.com). The reason they had a feature on autism is that
here in Europe, a very large number of people are just as convinced
that autism is being caused not by Thimerosol, but by the MMR vaccine -
which has also been shown not to be the case. The change in the number
of people being diagnosed is apparently down to the criteria used for
diagnosis. Perhaps being too close to the issue makes it more
difficult to be objective? Here, panic among the general public caused
MMR vaccination rates to drop significantly, which has actually
endangered lives - a very sad consequence of understandable fears,
possibly worsened by inaccurate or alarmist media coverage.


Thanks for your perspective fromn continental Europe.


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Having a protest doesn't make something true.

Jeff

The protest is because the below things ARE true.

Incorrect. The protest is because of what they think is true.

Jeff


Do prove they are not true.

Do prove that they are true. You made the affirmative statement:

"The protest is because the below things ARE true."

Now, prove it.


For the HARD HEADED , it is proven in the article!

August 24 DC Protest - Vaccine-Autism Activists Join In


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Having a protest doesn't make something true.

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The protest is because the below things ARE true.

Incorrect. The protest is because of what they think is true.

Jeff


Do prove they are not true.

Do prove that they are true. You made the affirmative statement:

"The protest is because the below things ARE true."

Now, prove it.


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Having a protest doesn't make something true.

Jeff

The protest is because the below things ARE true.

Incorrect. The protest is because of what they think is true.

Jeff


Do prove they are not true.

Do prove that they are true. You made the affirmative statement:

"The protest is because the below things ARE true."

Now, prove it.


For the HARD HEADED , it is proven in the article!

August 24 DC Protest - Vaccine-Autism Activists Join In


by Evelyn Pringle

OPINION snipped.

Get proof.


For the HARD HEADED , it is proven in the article!

There is NO proof, just opinion. Opinions do not constitute proof. I'll
prove it:

In my opinion, Jan is a moron.

If opinions were proof, that proves it.

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Mark is correct. An opinion is stated in the article. Not proof. In no way
is the conjecture that mercury causes autism proved in the article.

Jeff

Both Mark and you feel free to prove each and every point listed wrong.

Show us you are correct.

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Activist attending the 3 day protest in Washington DC this month have
one thing in common. They want to raise awareness of the fact that the
pharmaceutical industry has knowingly injured Americans with dangerous
products to increase profits and the nation's regulatory agencies have
aided and abetted them.


Since the discovery in recent years of cover-ups by the FDA and drug
makers, involving injuries caused by drugs such as Prozac and Vioxx,
the similar pattern of cover-ups of injuries caused by the nation's
vaccine program should come as no surprise.


During the 1990s, as the number of vaccines on the Federal
Immunization
Schedule nearly tripled, and vaccination rates soared to nearly 95%
for
five year olds, the number of kids diagnosed with autism and other
neurological disorders skyrocketed.


And, there is only one commonality in all the injured children - they
received vaccines that contained the mercury-based preservative
thimerosal.


Vaccines are the only product whose use is mandated in all 50 states,
requiring children to be vaccinated before entering day care
facilities
and schools. According to a 1999 report by the General Accounting
Office, an estimated 12 million vaccinations are given to children
each
year in the US.


During the 1990s, some 40 million children were vaccinated. Since the
government literally forced children to be vaccinated with thimerosal
for decades, it now has an obligation to find a cure for the epidemic
of autism and other related disorders and to hold the vaccine-makers
financially responsible for the damage caused by their products.


The country is in the midst of the worst man-made epidemic in history.
Twenty years ago, autism only affected one in 10,000 children.
However,
the Autism Autoimmunity Project reports that the disorder strikes 1 in
150 (or 1 in 68 families) today.


In dealing with this epidemic, the first order of business has to be
to
find a way to force the government to ban thimerosal in all vaccines.
Most unsuspecting people do not realize that thimerosal is still
contained in some products, such as flu vaccines.


In addition, even though thimerosal has been removed from most
vaccines
in the US, drug companies are still knowingly injecting thimerosal
into
millions of children all over the world each year. The global market
for vaccines is still a goldmine. For instance, UNICEF, the World
Health Organization's parent body, buys 40% of all vaccines used in
developing countries, and Merck is its sole supplier. Merck makes
Recombivax HB, a Hepatitis B vaccine that contains thimerosal. Eli
Lilly invented thimerosal, and it has licensing agreements with drug
companies in 40 countries that make the product.


The EPA recommends ingesting no more than 0.1 micrograms of mercury,
and the FDA recommends no more than 0.4 micrograms per day for
pregnant
women, nursing mothers, and small children, which amounts to a
recommendation that they eat no more than 12 ounces of tuna per week,
because the EPA says, "mercury consumed by a pregnant or nursing woman
or by a young child can harm the developing brain and nervous system."


Yet the government still recommends that children aged 6 to 23 months
and pregnant women get the flu vaccine with its 25 micrograms of
mercury which amounts to 250 times the safety limit for mercury intake
set by the EPA for fish-eaters.


During the late 1980s and 1990s, while approving new vaccines and
adding them to the childhood immunization schedule, the government
agencies responsible for drug safety, failed to add up the cumulative
amounts of mercury that a child would receive in shots during one
doctor visit, or over the course of the full vaccine schedule.


In 1999, while conducting a review of all mercury containing products,
the regulatory agencies finally got around to looking at vaccines and
discovered that the mercury being injected into children through
vaccines vastly exceeded the guidelines set by the Environmental
Protection Agency.


Professor Lynn Adams, of Radford University, a speech-language
pathologist who specializes in autism, said that in1999, a study
determined that the average child received 33 doses of 10 different
vaccines by the age 5.


By 1999, the FDA definitely knew about the accumulative dangers of
thimerosal to our children. We know this because the staff for Rep Dan
Burton (R-Ill) obtained an internal FDA e-mail written on June 29,
1999, by former FDA scientist Peter Patriarca, that specifically
discussed the dangers when offering a "pros and cons" assessment of a
statement on thimerosal about to be released by the FDA, and listed
the
questions and accusations that would inevitably be lodged against the
FDA after its release. He said people are bound to question:


(1) FDA being `asleep at the switch' for decades, by allowing a
potentially hazardous compound to remain in many childhood vaccines,
and not forcing manufacturers to exclude it from new products. (2)
various advisory bodies aggressive recommendations for use. (3) the
dose of ethyl mercury was not generated by `rocket science':
conversion
of the % of thimerosal to actual ug [micrograms] of mercury involves
9th grade algebra. (4) What took the FDA so long to do the
calculations? (5) Why didn't CDC and the advisory bodies do these
calculations while rapidly expanding the childhood immunization
schedule?


The fact is that the FDA and CDC knew children were being poisoned and
they kept the information hidden and allowed it to continue. "Because
the FDA chose not to recall thimerosal-containing vaccines in 1999,"
the April 2003, House Committee on Government Reform report concludes,
"in addition to all of those already injured, 8,000 children a day
continued to be placed at risk for overdose for at least an additional
two years."


There's also no doubt that the drug companies knew of the dangers more
than 30 years ago. In 1972, Lilly received an article that confirmed
that thimerosal had caused 6 deaths when too much of it had been used,
which said: "The symptoms and clinical course of the 6 patients
suggests subacute mercury poisoning."


In an October 12, 1979 memo, Merck scientists discussed the "potential
problem" of having mercury in its flu and meningococcal vaccines, as
well as the Hepatitis B vaccine that was under development and asked:
"Should a program of replacement be initiated now to guard against any
spontaneous rally to avoid its (thimerosal) use in injectables?"


Last fall, the LA Times released a 1991 internal memo from Merck, that
proves the company knew back then that the overuse of mercury in
vaccines posed a dangerous health threat to children. The memo noted
that 6-month-old children who received their shots on schedule would
get a mercury dose up to 87 times higher than guidelines for the
maximum daily consumption of mercury from fish.


Using state by state statistics produced by the Department of
Education, to compare the increase in cases of autism over a 12-year
period between 1992-93 and 2003-04, reveals horrendous results. In
Ohio, in 1992-93 there were only 22 cases of autism, in 2003-04 there
were 5146 cases. In Illinois, there were only 5 cases twelve years
ago,
while there were 6005 in 2003-04. Mississippi had no cases of autism
12
years ago, but had 622 in 2003-04. Wisconsin had 18 cases in 1992-93
and 3259 in 2003-04.


We are on the verge of the biggest welfare disaster that his country
has ever seen. Eighty percent of the autistic children in the US are
under the age of 17. In a few short years, the states will be forced
to
provide support for an overwhelming number of disabled adults. "The
costs will be in the trillions," according to Ann Dachel, a special
education teacher and the mother of a boy with autism and a daughter
who developed epilepsy after receiving a Hepatitis B vaccine.


On February 15, 2005, the GAO, released a report titled, "Special
Education Children With Autism," that revealed that the number of
children ages 6 through 21 diagnosed with autism who receiving special
ed services has increased by more than 500% over the past 10 years,
from under 20,000 in 1993 to almost 120,000 in 2002.


The cost of educating this number of autistic kids will be enormous.
The Department of Education spends about $53 billion a year on K-12
education. If it provides $60,000 per year to educate each of the
currently identified school-age autistic children nationwide, the
price
tag will be over $7 billion a year, or about 13% of the Department's
entire budget. And by the end of each year, the cost will be even
higher due to the increased number of autistic kids entering the
system
each year.


In the absence of a cure and drug company accountability, local tax
payers will be forced to carry the life-long load of educating and
caring for a generation of injured people and state and local taxes
will go through the roof.


The CDC and FDA policy decisions regarding vaccine approval and safety
recommendations are made through physician advisory panels whose
members often have financial relationships with the very same drug
companies that they are supposed to regulate.


For example, during a congressional hearing on potential conflicts of
interests at the FDA, it was revealed that 60% of the advisory board
members who voted to approve the poisonous rotavirus vaccine had
financial ties to the drug companies manufacturing the vaccine. The
committee also discovered that half of the CDC members had ties to the
rotavirus makers.

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OPINION snipped.

Get proof.

For the HARD HEADED , it is proven in the article!


Mark is correct. An opinion is stated in the article. Not proof. In no
way is the conjecture that mercury causes autism proved in the article.

Jeff

Both Mark and you feel free to prove each and every point listed wrong.

Show us you are correct.

http://www.opednews.com


Activist attending the 3 day protest in Washington DC this month have
one thing in common. They want to raise awareness of the fact that the
pharmaceutical industry has knowingly injured Americans with dangerous
products to increase profits and the nation's regulatory agencies have
aided and abetted them.


Since the discovery in recent years of cover-ups by the FDA and drug
makers, involving injuries caused by drugs such as Prozac and Vioxx,
the similar pattern of cover-ups of injuries caused by the nation's
vaccine program should come as no surprise.

Except there has been no cover-up. Suspected injuries are listed in the
VAERS database.

During the 1990s, as the number of vaccines on the Federal
Immunization
Schedule nearly tripled, and vaccination rates soared to nearly 95%
for
five year olds, the number of kids diagnosed with autism and other
neurological disorders skyrocketed.

Yet, that doesn't mean the vaccines cause autism. The price of gas is
skyrocketing, too, but that doesn't mean that vaccines have anything to do
with it.

And, there is only one commonality in all the injured children - they
received vaccines that contained the mercury-based preservative
thimerosal.

Really? Do they live in an envrionment that is more polluted than ever? With
mercury in fish? Do they live in an environment where physicians and other
care-takers are more aware of autism and more likely to make a diagnosis?

Vaccines are the only product whose use is mandated in all 50 states,
requiring children to be vaccinated before entering day care
facilities
and schools.

Incorrect. There is a philosophical and religious exemption in many states.
And there is no requirement that kids get vaccinated.

According to a 1999 report by the General Accounting
Office, an estimated 12 million vaccinations are given to children
each
year in the US.

Thank God. That means many illness are prevented and many lives saved each
year.

During the 1990s, some 40 million children were vaccinated. Since the
government literally forced children to be vaccinated with thimerosal
for decades, it now has an obligation to find a cure for the epidemic
of autism and other related disorders and to hold the vaccine-makers
financially responsible for the damage caused by their products.

Let's see. You cliam the government forced vaccination. Why should the
vaccine makers be held accountable? If your claim that the government forced
vacicnations is correct, then shouldn't the government pay?

The country is in the midst of the worst man-made epidemic in history.
Twenty years ago, autism only affected one in 10,000 children.
However,
the Autism Autoimmunity Project reports that the disorder strikes 1 in
150 (or 1 in 68 families) today.

Yet, you haven't proven that the epidemic is man-made.

In dealing with this epidemic, the first order of business has to be
to
find a way to force the government to ban thimerosal in all vaccines.
Most unsuspecting people do not realize that thimerosal is still
contained in some products, such as flu vaccines.

Yet, thimerasol has never been shown to cause autism or other problems in
the quantities used.

In addition, even though thimerosal has been removed from most
vaccines
in the US, drug companies are still knowingly injecting thimerosal
into
millions of children all over the world each year. The global market
for vaccines is still a goldmine. For instance, UNICEF, the World
Health Organization's parent body, buys 40% of all vaccines used in
developing countries, and Merck is its sole supplier. Merck makes
Recombivax HB, a Hepatitis B vaccine that contains thimerosal. Eli
Lilly invented thimerosal, and it has licensing agreements with drug
companies in 40 countries that make the product.

These vaccines are saving millions of lives each year.

The EPA recommends ingesting no more than 0.1 micrograms of mercury,
and the FDA recommends no more than 0.4 micrograms per day for
pregnant
women, nursing mothers, and small children, which amounts to a
recommendation that they eat no more than 12 ounces of tuna per week,
because the EPA says, "mercury consumed by a pregnant or nursing woman
or by a young child can harm the developing brain and nervous system."


Yet the government still recommends that children aged 6 to 23 months
and pregnant women get the flu vaccine with its 25 micrograms of
mercury which amounts to 250 times the safety limit for mercury intake
set by the EPA for fish-eaters.

And the mercury in fish is methylmercury, not ethylmerucry. And the
thimerasol has never been shown to harm anyone in the doses used.

During the late 1980s and 1990s, while approving new vaccines and
adding them to the childhood immunization schedule, the government
agencies responsible for drug safety, failed to add up the cumulative
amounts of mercury that a child would receive in shots during one
doctor visit, or over the course of the full vaccine schedule.


In 1999, while conducting a review of all mercury containing products,
the regulatory agencies finally got around to looking at vaccines and
discovered that the mercury being injected into children through
vaccines vastly exceeded the guidelines set by the Environmental
Protection Agency.


Professor Lynn Adams, of Radford University, a speech-language
pathologist who specializes in autism, said that in1999, a study
determined that the average child received 33 doses of 10 different
vaccines by the age 5.

Which prevented many illnesses and deaths.

By 1999, the FDA definitely knew about the accumulative dangers of
thimerosal to our children. We know this because the staff for Rep Dan
Burton (R-Ill) obtained an internal FDA e-mail written on June 29,
1999, by former FDA scientist Peter Patriarca, that specifically
discussed the dangers when offering a "pros and cons" assessment of a
statement on thimerosal about to be released by the FDA, and listed
the
questions and accusations that would inevitably be lodged against the
FDA after its release. He said people are bound to question:


(1) FDA being `asleep at the switch' for decades, by allowing a
potentially hazardous compound to remain in many childhood vaccines,
and not forcing manufacturers to exclude it from new products. (2)
various advisory bodies aggressive recommendations for use. (3) the
dose of ethyl mercury was not generated by `rocket science':
conversion
of the % of thimerosal to actual ug [micrograms] of mercury involves
9th grade algebra. (4) What took the FDA so long to do the
calculations? (5) Why didn't CDC and the advisory bodies do these
calculations while rapidly expanding the childhood immunization
schedule?

Why didn't anyone else? Does the FDA possess the only calculator in the
world?

The fact is that the FDA and CDC knew children were being poisoned and
they kept the information hidden and allowed it to continue. "Because
the FDA chose not to recall thimerosal-containing vaccines in 1999,"
the April 2003, House Committee on Government Reform report concludes,
"in addition to all of those already injured, 8,000 children a day
continued to be placed at risk for overdose for at least an additional
two years."

Because there is no evidence that thimerasol in the doses used harms anyone.

There's also no doubt that the drug companies knew of the dangers more
than 30 years ago. In 1972, Lilly received an article that confirmed
that thimerosal had caused 6 deaths when too much of it had been used,
which said: "The symptoms and clinical course of the 6 patients
suggests subacute mercury poisoning."

Keywords: When too much of it was used. There have also been deaths when too
much water is used. Does that mean we should stop drinking water?

In an October 12, 1979 memo, Merck scientists discussed the "potential
problem" of having mercury in its flu and meningococcal vaccines, as
well as the Hepatitis B vaccine that was under development and asked:
"Should a program of replacement be initiated now to guard against any
spontaneous rally to avoid its (thimerosal) use in injectables?"


Last fall, the LA Times released a 1991 internal memo from Merck, that
proves the company knew back then that the overuse of mercury in
vaccines posed a dangerous health threat to children. The memo noted
that 6-month-old children who received their shots on schedule would
get a mercury dose up to 87 times higher than guidelines for the
maximum daily consumption of mercury from fish.

Yet, the form of mercury in fish is different than that in vaccines.

Using state by state statistics produced by the Department of
Education, to compare the increase in cases of autism over a 12-year
period between 1992-93 and 2003-04, reveals horrendous results. In
Ohio, in 1992-93 there were only 22 cases of autism, in 2003-04 there
were 5146 cases. In Illinois, there were only 5 cases twelve years
ago,
while there were 6005 in 2003-04. Mississippi had no cases of autism
12
years ago, but had 622 in 2003-04. Wisconsin had 18 cases in 1992-93
and 3259 in 2003-04.

You mean diagnoses. Not cases. They are different. Now that we are able to
diagnose autism, we are able to give kids the help they need.

We are on the verge of the biggest welfare disaster that his country
has ever seen. Eighty percent of the autistic children in the US are
under the age of 17. In a few short years, the states will be forced
to
provide support for an overwhelming number of disabled adults. "The
costs will be in the trillions," according to Ann Dachel, a special
education teacher and the mother of a boy with autism and a daughter
who developed epilepsy after receiving a Hepatitis B vaccine.


On February 15, 2005, the GAO, released a report titled, "Special
Education Children With Autism," that revealed that the number of
children ages 6 through 21 diagnosed with autism who receiving special
ed services has increased by more than 500% over the past 10 years,
from under 20,000 in 1993 to almost 120,000 in 2002.


The cost of educating this number of autistic kids will be enormous.
The Department of Education spends about $53 billion a year on K-12
education. If it provides $60,000 per year to educate each of the
currently identified school-age autistic children nationwide, the
price
tag will be over $7 billion a year, or about 13% of the Department's
entire budget. And by the end of each year, the cost will be even
higher due to the increased number of autistic kids entering the
system
each year.


In the absence of a cure and drug company accountability, local tax
payers will be forced to carry the life-long load of educating and
caring for a generation of injured people and state and local taxes
will go through the roof.


The CDC and FDA policy decisions regarding vaccine approval and safety
recommendations are made through physician advisory panels whose
members often have financial relationships with the very same drug
companies that they are supposed to regulate.

Yet you cannot show me any cases where their supposed ties to the drug
companies resulted in any changes in how they vote.

For example, during a congressional hearing on potential conflicts of
interests at the FDA, it was revealed that 60% of the advisory board
members who voted to approve the poisonous rotavirus vaccine had
financial ties to the drug companies manufacturing the vaccine. The
committee also discovered that half of the CDC members had ties to the
rotavirus makers.

Did the other 40% of members vote for or against the vaccines?

Jeff

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OPINION snipped.

Get proof.

For the HARD HEADED , it is proven in the article!


Mark is correct. An opinion is stated in the article. Not proof. In no
way is the conjecture that mercury causes autism proved in the article.

Jeff

Both Mark and you feel free to prove each and every point listed wrong.

Show us you are correct.

http://www.opednews.com


Activist attending the 3 day protest in Washington DC this month have
one thing in common. They want to raise awareness of the fact that the
pharmaceutical industry has knowingly injured Americans with dangerous
products to increase profits and the nation's regulatory agencies have
aided and abetted them.


Since the discovery in recent years of cover-ups by the FDA and drug
makers, involving injuries caused by drugs such as Prozac and Vioxx,
the similar pattern of cover-ups of injuries caused by the nation's
vaccine program should come as no surprise.

Except there has been no cover-up. Suspected injuries are listed in the
VAERS database.

NOT!!!!

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During the 1990s, as the number of vaccines on the Federal
Immunization
Schedule nearly tripled, and vaccination rates soared to nearly 95%
for
five year olds, the number of kids diagnosed with autism and other
neurological disorders skyrocketed.

Yet, that doesn't mean the vaccines cause autism. The price of gas is
skyrocketing, too, but that doesn't mean that vaccines have anything to do
with it.

And it doesn't mean it didn't.

Now, where is YOUR proof???

And, there is only one commonality in all the injured children - they
received vaccines that contained the mercury-based preservative
thimerosal.

Really? Do they live in an envrionment that is more polluted than ever?
With mercury in fish?

Or in their TEETH!!!!!!

OOOOPSSSSS


Do they live in an environment where physicians and other
care-takers are more aware of autism and more likely to make a diagnosis?

Care takers are making diagnosis?????????????????????????????



Vaccines are the only product whose use is mandated in all 50 states,
requiring children to be vaccinated before entering day care
facilities
and schools.

Incorrect. There is a philosophical and religious exemption in many
states. And there is no requirement that kids get vaccinated.

Incorrect!!!!!!!!!

EACH and EVERY child in *MY* daycare centers* had to be vaccinated or my
*centers* did NOT have thier licenses renewed!!!!!

According to a 1999 report by the General Accounting
Office, an estimated 12 million vaccinations are given to children
each
year in the US.

Thank God. That means many illness are prevented and many lives saved each
year.

EXCEPT

Some we would like to forget.

WHY do you suppose we have a National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program,
Jeff?



During the 1990s, some 40 million children were vaccinated. Since the
government literally forced children to be vaccinated with thimerosal
for decades, it now has an obligation to find a cure for the epidemic
of autism and other related disorders and to hold the vaccine-makers
financially responsible for the damage caused by their products.

Let's see. You cliam the government forced vaccination. Why should the
vaccine makers be held accountable? If your claim that the government
forced vacicnations is correct, then shouldn't the government pay?

Simple, it is worded well above.

Read it again.



The country is in the midst of the worst man-made epidemic in history.
Twenty years ago, autism only affected one in 10,000 children.
However,
the Autism Autoimmunity Project reports that the disorder strikes 1 in
150 (or 1 in 68 families) today.

Yet, you haven't proven that the epidemic is man-made.

Say What?

What have YOU proven?

Where is YOUR proof that this is incorrect?

In dealing with this epidemic, the first order of business has to be
to
find a way to force the government to ban thimerosal in all vaccines.
Most unsuspecting people do not realize that thimerosal is still
contained in some products, such as flu vaccines.

Yet, thimerasol has never been shown to cause autism or other problems in
the quantities used.

OH,,,,,,,,,now the story is changing to *in the quantities used*

*;*


http://www.flu.org.cn/news/2004986362.htm




In addition, even though thimerosal has been removed from most
vaccines
in the US, drug companies are still knowingly injecting thimerosal
into
millions of children all over the world each year. The global market
for vaccines is still a goldmine. For instance, UNICEF, the World
Health Organization's parent body, buys 40% of all vaccines used in
developing countries, and Merck is its sole supplier. Merck makes
Recombivax HB, a Hepatitis B vaccine that contains thimerosal. Eli
Lilly invented thimerosal, and it has licensing agreements with drug
companies in 40 countries that make the product.

These vaccines are saving millions of lives each year.

E V EN T H O U G H thimerosal has been removed from most vaccines
in the US, drug companies are ***S T I L L K N O W I N L Y*** injecting
thimerosal into
millions of children all over the world each year


Uhhhh. Hmmmmm.


The EPA recommends ingesting no more than 0.1 micrograms of mercury,
and the FDA recommends no more than 0.4 micrograms per day for
pregnant
women, nursing mothers, and small children, which amounts to a
recommendation that they eat no more than 12 ounces of tuna per week,
because the EPA says, "mercury consumed by a pregnant or nursing woman
or by a young child can harm the developing brain and nervous system."


Yet the government still recommends that children aged 6 to 23 months
and pregnant women get the flu vaccine with its 25 micrograms of
mercury which amounts to 250 times the safety limit for mercury intake
set by the EPA for fish-eaters.

And the mercury in fish is methylmercury, not ethylmerucry. And the
thimerasol has never been shown to harm anyone in the doses used.

When or when will you ever learn to spell t h i m e r *o*s*a*l?!?!

Now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

HEAR THIS!

A LINK BETWEEN THIMEROSAL AND AUTISM HAS *CLEARLY* BEEN FOUND!!!!!


http://www.flu.org.cn/news/2004986362.htm


During the late 1980s and 1990s, while approving new vaccines and
adding them to the childhood immunization schedule, the government
agencies responsible for drug safety, failed to add up the cumulative
amounts of mercury that a child would receive in shots during one
doctor visit, or over the course of the full vaccine schedule.


In 1999, while conducting a review of all mercury containing products,
the regulatory agencies finally got around to looking at vaccines and
discovered that the mercury being injected into children through
vaccines vastly exceeded the guidelines set by the Environmental
Protection Agency.


Professor Lynn Adams, of Radford University, a speech-language
pathologist who specializes in autism, said that in1999, a study
determined that the average child received 33 doses of 10 different
vaccines by the age 5.

Which prevented many illnesses and deaths.

AND CAUSED GOD KNOWS WHAT?!?!?!

WITH ALL THAT MERCURY INJECTED WHICH,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

*****the government agencies responsible for drug safety, failed to add up
the cumulative
amounts of mercury that a child would receive in shots during one
doctor visit, or over the course of the full vaccine schedule.*******

Uhh. Hmmm.


****In 1999, while conducting a review of all mercury containing products,
the regulatory agencies finally got around to looking at vaccines and
discovered that the mercury being injected into children through
vaccines vastly exceeded the guidelines set by the Environmental
Protection Agency.*****

That's TEN LONG YEARS, Jeff.

And you wonder, WHY people ae protesting?!?!?!




By 1999, the FDA definitely knew about the accumulative dangers of
thimerosal to our children. We know this because the staff for Rep Dan
Burton (R-Ill) obtained an internal FDA e-mail written on June 29,
1999, by former FDA scientist Peter Patriarca, that specifically
discussed the dangers when offering a "pros and cons" assessment of a
statement on thimerosal about to be released by the FDA, and listed
the
questions and accusations that would inevitably be lodged against the
FDA after its release. He said people are bound to question:


(1) FDA being `asleep at the switch' for decades, by allowing a
potentially hazardous compound to remain in many childhood vaccines,
and not forcing manufacturers to exclude it from new products. (2)
various advisory bodies aggressive recommendations for use. (3) the
dose of ethyl mercury was not generated by `rocket science':
conversion
of the % of thimerosal to actual ug [micrograms] of mercury involves
9th grade algebra. (4) What took the FDA so long to do the
calculations? (5) Why didn't CDC and the advisory bodies do these
calculations while rapidly expanding the childhood immunization
schedule?

Why didn't anyone else? Does the FDA possess the only calculator in the
world?

I'll tell you WHY.

THEY DID!!!!!

It's right there on the website, I gave you. The one you tried to discredit
by trying to trash Dan Burton.

http://www.altcorp.com/DentalInforma...ngressacts.htm

http://www.altcorp.com/DentalInforma...rnmentknew.htm



The fact is that the FDA and CDC knew children were being poisoned and
they kept the information hidden and allowed it to continue. "Because
the FDA chose not to recall thimerosal-containing vaccines in 1999,"
the April 2003, House Committee on Government Reform report concludes,
"in addition to all of those already injured, 8,000 children a day
continued to be placed at risk for overdose for at least an additional
two years."

Because there is no evidence that thimerasol in the doses used harms
anyone.

W R O N G.

http://www.altcorp.com/DentalInformation/asdexperts.htm



There's also no doubt that the drug companies knew of the dangers more
than 30 years ago. In 1972, Lilly received an article that confirmed
that thimerosal had caused 6 deaths when too much of it had been used,
which said: "The symptoms and clinical course of the 6 patients
suggests subacute mercury poisoning."

Keywords: When too much of it was used. There have also been deaths when
too much water is used. Does that mean we should stop drinking water?

Stupid skeptic trick.

We are NOT talking about water.



In an October 12, 1979 memo, Merck scientists discussed the "potential
problem" of having mercury in its flu and meningococcal vaccines, as
well as the Hepatitis B vaccine that was under development and asked:
"Should a program of replacement be initiated now to guard against any
spontaneous rally to avoid its (thimerosal) use in injectables?"


Last fall, the LA Times released a 1991 internal memo from Merck, that
proves the company knew back then that the overuse of mercury in
vaccines posed a dangerous health threat to children. The memo noted
that 6-month-old children who received their shots on schedule would
get a mercury dose up to 87 times higher than guidelines for the
maximum daily consumption of mercury from fish.

Yet, the form of mercury in fish is different than that in vaccines.

http://www.mercuryexposure.org/index.php?article_id=251

Mercury is found in the environment in three basic states: elemental mercury
or mercury vapor, inorganic mercury, and organic mercury (ethyl-, methyl-,
alkyl-, or phenylmercury). Each form has an individual toxicological profile
and metabolic fate.



Using state by state statistics produced by the Department of
Education, to compare the increase in cases of autism over a 12-year
period between 1992-93 and 2003-04, reveals horrendous results. In
Ohio, in 1992-93 there were only 22 cases of autism, in 2003-04 there
were 5146 cases. In Illinois, there were only 5 cases twelve years
ago,
while there were 6005 in 2003-04. Mississippi had no cases of autism
12
years ago, but had 622 in 2003-04. Wisconsin had 18 cases in 1992-93
and 3259 in 2003-04.

You mean diagnoses. Not cases.

Oh?

Proof, Please?

They are different. Now that we are able to
diagnose autism, we are able to give kids the help they need.

A bit late.

During the late 1980s and 1990s, while approving new vaccines and
adding them to the childhood immunization schedule, the government
agencies responsible for drug safety, failed to add up the cumulative
amounts of mercury that a child would receive in shots during one
doctor visit, or over the course of the full vaccine schedule.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

In 1999, while conducting a review of all mercury containing products,
the regulatory agencies finally got around to looking at vaccines and
discovered that the mercury being injected into children through
vaccines vastly exceeded the guidelines set by the Environmental
Protection Agency.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOW, we are able to help them,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Dear God in heaven!!!!!!!!!



We are on the verge of the biggest welfare disaster that his country
has ever seen. Eighty percent of the autistic children in the US are
under the age of 17. In a few short years, the states will be forced
to
provide support for an overwhelming number of disabled adults. "The
costs will be in the trillions," according to Ann Dachel, a special
education teacher and the mother of a boy with autism and a daughter
who developed epilepsy after receiving a Hepatitis B vaccine.


On February 15, 2005, the GAO, released a report titled, "Special
Education Children With Autism," that revealed that the number of
children ages 6 through 21 diagnosed with autism who receiving special
ed services has increased by more than 500% over the past 10 years,
from under 20,000 in 1993 to almost 120,000 in 2002.


The cost of educating this number of autistic kids will be enormous.
The Department of Education spends about $53 billion a year on K-12
education. If it provides $60,000 per year to educate each of the
currently identified school-age autistic children nationwide, the
price
tag will be over $7 billion a year, or about 13% of the Department's
entire budget. And by the end of each year, the cost will be even
higher due to the increased number of autistic kids entering the
system
each year.


In the absence of a cure and drug company accountability, local tax
payers will be forced to carry the life-long load of educating and
caring for a generation of injured people and state and local taxes
will go through the roof.


The CDC and FDA policy decisions regarding vaccine approval and safety
recommendations are made through physician advisory panels whose
members often have financial relationships with the very same drug
companies that they are supposed to regulate.

Yet you cannot show me any cases where their supposed ties to the drug
companies resulted in any changes in how they vote.

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unreal.

I give up.

LOL!






For example, during a congressional hearing on potential conflicts of
interests at the FDA, it was revealed that 60% of the advisory board
members who voted to approve the poisonous rotavirus vaccine had
financial ties to the drug companies manufacturing the vaccine. The
committee also discovered that half of the CDC members had ties to the
rotavirus makers.

Did the other 40% of members vote for or against the vaccines?

Jeff

Oh, my, first one cannot show Jeff, any cases where their supposed ties to
the drug
companies resulted in any changes in how they vote.

Now, he wants to know if the other 40% of members vote for or against the
vaccines?

Bless.

*;*

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Get proof.

For the HARD HEADED , it is proven in the article!


Mark is correct. An opinion is stated in the article. Not proof. In no
way is the conjecture that mercury causes autism proved in the
article.

Jeff

Both Mark and you feel free to prove each and every point listed wrong.

Show us you are correct.

http://www.opednews.com


Activist attending the 3 day protest in Washington DC this month have
one thing in common. They want to raise awareness of the fact that the
pharmaceutical industry has knowingly injured Americans with dangerous
products to increase profits and the nation's regulatory agencies have
aided and abetted them.


Since the discovery in recent years of cover-ups by the FDA and drug
makers, involving injuries caused by drugs such as Prozac and Vioxx,
the similar pattern of cover-ups of injuries caused by the nation's
vaccine program should come as no surprise.

Except there has been no cover-up. Suspected injuries are listed in the
VAERS database.

NOT!!!!

http://www.909shot.com/PressReleases/pr83001.htm



During the 1990s, as the number of vaccines on the Federal
Immunization
Schedule nearly tripled, and vaccination rates soared to nearly 95%
for
five year olds, the number of kids diagnosed with autism and other
neurological disorders skyrocketed.

Yet, that doesn't mean the vaccines cause autism. The price of gas is
skyrocketing, too, but that doesn't mean that vaccines have anything to
do with it.

And it doesn't mean it didn't.

Now, where is YOUR proof???

Sorry but I know of no one who has done a study of the price of gasoline
and autism.



And, there is only one commonality in all the injured children - they
received vaccines that contained the mercury-based preservative
thimerosal.

Really? Do they live in an envrionment that is more polluted than ever?
With mercury in fish?

Or in their TEETH!!!!!!

OOOOPSSSSS

Not many kids under 3 have fillings. And vaccines have nothing to do with
fillings.



Do they live in an environment where physicians and other
care-takers are more aware of autism and more likely to make a diagnosis?

Care takers are making diagnosis?????????????????????????????

yes, pediatricians, family doctors, pediatric nurse practioners.



Vaccines are the only product whose use is mandated in all 50 states,
requiring children to be vaccinated before entering day care
facilities
and schools.

Incorrect. There is a philosophical and religious exemption in many
states. And there is no requirement that kids get vaccinated.

Incorrect!!!!!!!!!

EACH and EVERY child in *MY* daycare centers* had to be vaccinated or my
*centers* did NOT have thier licenses renewed!!!!!

There is no legal requirement that kids go to daycare or school. And there
are religious and philosophical exemptions in many states.


According to a 1999 report by the General Accounting
Office, an estimated 12 million vaccinations are given to children
each
year in the US.

Thank God. That means many illness are prevented and many lives saved
each year.

EXCEPT

Some we would like to forget.

WHY do you suppose we have a National Vaccine Injury Compensation
Program, Jeff?

Because there are a *few* cases of vaccine injuries. And, when child get
sick after a vaccine juries tend to find for the defendent regardless of the
facts because drug companies are percieved to have deep pockets. This drives
that cost of vaccines up. This is a way to provide some compensation for
sick kids who were really injured by vaccines, while enabling vaccine
companies to be able to continue to make vaccines and save lives. If there
were not this sort of program, many vaccine companies would stop making
them.




During the 1990s, some 40 million children were vaccinated. Since the
government literally forced children to be vaccinated with thimerosal
for decades, it now has an obligation to find a cure for the epidemic
of autism and other related disorders and to hold the vaccine-makers
financially responsible for the damage caused by their products.

Let's see. You cliam the government forced vaccination. Why should the
vaccine makers be held accountable? If your claim that the government
forced vacicnations is correct, then shouldn't the government pay?

Simple, it is worded well above.

Read it again.

I did. You claimed that the government "forced vaccination" and "has an
obligation to ... holde the vaccine-makers [sic] financially responsible for
damage caused by their products." This doesn't explain why the government
should pay. In theory, the federal government is required to pay for
mandates that the NCLB requires. why shouldn't the government be required to
pay for damages required by what you claim is a government mandate?




The country is in the midst of the worst man-made epidemic in history.
Twenty years ago, autism only affected one in 10,000 children.
However,
the Autism Autoimmunity Project reports that the disorder strikes 1 in
150 (or 1 in 68 families) today.

Yet, you haven't proven that the epidemic is man-made.

Say What?

What have YOU proven?

Where is YOUR proof that this is incorrect?

You are making a claim. you need to back it up.


In dealing with this epidemic, the first order of business has to be
to
find a way to force the government to ban thimerosal in all vaccines.
Most unsuspecting people do not realize that thimerosal is still
contained in some products, such as flu vaccines.

Yet, thimerasol has never been shown to cause autism or other problems in
the quantities used.

OH,,,,,,,,,now the story is changing to *in the quantities used*

What else would you expect? Would you expect me to say "thimerasol has never
been shown to injure anyone at doses 10,000,000 times greater than the
quantities used?" That would make no sense. The quantities used is the
relevent amount. I don't beleive I have ever claimed otherwise.



*;*


http://www.flu.org.cn/news/2004986362.htm




In addition, even though thimerosal has been removed from most
vaccines
in the US, drug companies are still knowingly injecting thimerosal
into
millions of children all over the world each year. The global market
for vaccines is still a goldmine. For instance, UNICEF, the World
Health Organization's parent body, buys 40% of all vaccines used in
developing countries, and Merck is its sole supplier. Merck makes
Recombivax HB, a Hepatitis B vaccine that contains thimerosal. Eli
Lilly invented thimerosal, and it has licensing agreements with drug
companies in 40 countries that make the product.

These vaccines are saving millions of lives each year.

E V EN T H O U G H thimerosal has been removed from most vaccines
in the US, drug companies are ***S T I L L K N O W I N L Y*** injecting
thimerosal into
millions of children all over the world each year

I did not know drug companies inject anything into kids.

Uhhhh. Hmmmmm.


The EPA recommends ingesting no more than 0.1 micrograms of mercury,
and the FDA recommends no more than 0.4 micrograms per day for
pregnant
women, nursing mothers, and small children, which amounts to a
recommendation that they eat no more than 12 ounces of tuna per week,
because the EPA says, "mercury consumed by a pregnant or nursing woman
or by a young child can harm the developing brain and nervous system."


Yet the government still recommends that children aged 6 to 23 months
and pregnant women get the flu vaccine with its 25 micrograms of
mercury which amounts to 250 times the safety limit for mercury intake
set by the EPA for fish-eaters.

And the mercury in fish is methylmercury, not ethylmerucry. And the
thimerasol has never been shown to harm anyone in the doses used.

When or when will you ever learn to spell t h i m e r *o*s*a*l?!?!

Now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

HEAR THIS!

A LINK BETWEEN THIMEROSAL AND AUTISM HAS *CLEARLY* BEEN FOUND!!!!!


http://www.flu.org.cn/news/2004986362.htm

In mice. Again, I promise never to inject my mice if they are of the
particular strain affected (if I ever get any) with any vaccines.


During the late 1980s and 1990s, while approving new vaccines and
adding them to the childhood immunization schedule, the government
agencies responsible for drug safety, failed to add up the cumulative
amounts of mercury that a child would receive in shots during one
doctor visit, or over the course of the full vaccine schedule.


In 1999, while conducting a review of all mercury containing products,
the regulatory agencies finally got around to looking at vaccines and
discovered that the mercury being injected into children through
vaccines vastly exceeded the guidelines set by the Environmental
Protection Agency.


Professor Lynn Adams, of Radford University, a speech-language
pathologist who specializes in autism, said that in1999, a study
determined that the average child received 33 doses of 10 different
vaccines by the age 5.

Which prevented many illnesses and deaths.

AND CAUSED GOD KNOWS WHAT?!?!?!

WITH ALL THAT MERCURY INJECTED WHICH,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

*****the government agencies responsible for drug safety, failed to add up
the cumulative
amounts of mercury that a child would receive in shots during one
doctor visit, or over the course of the full vaccine schedule.*******

Uhh. Hmmm.


****In 1999, while conducting a review of all mercury containing products,
the regulatory agencies finally got around to looking at vaccines and
discovered that the mercury being injected into children through
vaccines vastly exceeded the guidelines set by the Environmental
Protection Agency.*****

That's TEN LONG YEARS, Jeff.

And you wonder, WHY people ae protesting?!?!?!

The guidelines were based on guidelines for methylmercury, which is more
toxic than ethylmercury. And, no one has shown that ethylmercury is toxic in
the doses used.


By 1999, the FDA definitely knew about the accumulative dangers of
thimerosal to our children. We know this because the staff for Rep Dan
Burton (R-Ill) obtained an internal FDA e-mail written on June 29,
1999, by former FDA scientist Peter Patriarca, that specifically
discussed the dangers when offering a "pros and cons" assessment of a
statement on thimerosal about to be released by the FDA, and listed
the
questions and accusations that would inevitably be lodged against the
FDA after its release. He said people are bound to question:


(1) FDA being `asleep at the switch' for decades, by allowing a
potentially hazardous compound to remain in many childhood vaccines,
and not forcing manufacturers to exclude it from new products. (2)
various advisory bodies aggressive recommendations for use. (3) the
dose of ethyl mercury was not generated by `rocket science':
conversion
of the % of thimerosal to actual ug [micrograms] of mercury involves
9th grade algebra. (4) What took the FDA so long to do the
calculations? (5) Why didn't CDC and the advisory bodies do these
calculations while rapidly expanding the childhood immunization
schedule?

Why didn't anyone else? Does the FDA possess the only calculator in the
world?

I'll tell you WHY.

THEY DID!!!!!

It's right there on the website, I gave you. The one you tried to
discredit by trying to trash Dan Burton.

http://www.altcorp.com/DentalInforma...ngressacts.htm

http://www.altcorp.com/DentalInforma...rnmentknew.htm

Dan Burton doesn't need me to trash him. His comments do it for him.



The fact is that the FDA and CDC knew children were being poisoned and
they kept the information hidden and allowed it to continue. "Because
the FDA chose not to recall thimerosal-containing vaccines in 1999,"
the April 2003, House Committee on Government Reform report concludes,
"in addition to all of those already injured, 8,000 children a day
continued to be placed at risk for overdose for at least an additional
two years."

Because there is no evidence that thimerasol in the doses used harms
anyone.

W R O N G.

http://www.altcorp.com/DentalInformation/asdexperts.htm

Thimerasol is not used in dentistry.



There's also no doubt that the drug companies knew of the dangers more
than 30 years ago. In 1972, Lilly received an article that confirmed
that thimerosal had caused 6 deaths when too much of it had been used,
which said: "The symptoms and clinical course of the 6 patients
suggests subacute mercury poisoning."

Keywords: When too much of it was used. There have also been deaths when
too much water is used. Does that mean we should stop drinking water?

Stupid skeptic trick.

We are NOT talking about water.

But the analogy is correct. you have to look at doses.

In an October 12, 1979 memo, Merck scientists discussed the "potential
problem" of having mercury in its flu and meningococcal vaccines, as
well as the Hepatitis B vaccine that was under development and asked:
"Should a program of replacement be initiated now to guard against any
spontaneous rally to avoid its (thimerosal) use in injectables?"


Last fall, the LA Times released a 1991 internal memo from Merck, that
proves the company knew back then that the overuse of mercury in
vaccines posed a dangerous health threat to children. The memo noted
that 6-month-old children who received their shots on schedule would
get a mercury dose up to 87 times higher than guidelines for the
maximum daily consumption of mercury from fish.

Yet, the form of mercury in fish is different than that in vaccines.

http://www.mercuryexposure.org/index.php?article_id=251

Mercury is found in the environment in three basic states: elemental
mercury or mercury vapor, inorganic mercury, and organic mercury (ethyl-,
methyl-, alkyl-, or phenylmercury). Each form has an individual
toxicological profile and metabolic fate.

Correct. Except that organic mercury is not *one* form. There are literally
thousands of different organic mercury compounds, each of which is
different.




Using state by state statistics produced by the Department of
Education, to compare the increase in cases of autism over a 12-year
period between 1992-93 and 2003-04, reveals horrendous results. In
Ohio, in 1992-93 there were only 22 cases of autism, in 2003-04 there
were 5146 cases. In Illinois, there were only 5 cases twelve years
ago,
while there were 6005 in 2003-04. Mississippi had no cases of autism
12
years ago, but had 622 in 2003-04. Wisconsin had 18 cases in 1992-93
and 3259 in 2003-04.

You mean diagnoses. Not cases.

Oh?

Proof, Please?

For one to have a case of autism, there also has to be a diagnosis.

They are different. Now that we are able to
diagnose autism, we are able to give kids the help they need.

A bit late.

During the late 1980s and 1990s, while approving new vaccines and
adding them to the childhood immunization schedule, the government
agencies responsible for drug safety, failed to add up the cumulative
amounts of mercury that a child would receive in shots during one
doctor visit, or over the course of the full vaccine schedule.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

In 1999, while conducting a review of all mercury containing products,
the regulatory agencies finally got around to looking at vaccines and
discovered that the mercury being injected into children through
vaccines vastly exceeded the guidelines set by the Environmental
Protection Agency.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOW, we are able to help them,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Dear God in heaven!!!!!!!!!



We are on the verge of the biggest welfare disaster that his country
has ever seen. Eighty percent of the autistic children in the US are
under the age of 17. In a few short years, the states will be forced
to
provide support for an overwhelming number of disabled adults. "The
costs will be in the trillions," according to Ann Dachel, a special
education teacher and the mother of a boy with autism and a daughter
who developed epilepsy after receiving a Hepatitis B vaccine.


On February 15, 2005, the GAO, released a report titled, "Special
Education Children With Autism," that revealed that the number of
children ages 6 through 21 diagnosed with autism who receiving special
ed services has increased by more than 500% over the past 10 years,
from under 20,000 in 1993 to almost 120,000 in 2002.


The cost of educating this number of autistic kids will be enormous.
The Department of Education spends about $53 billion a year on K-12
education. If it provides $60,000 per year to educate each of the
currently identified school-age autistic children nationwide, the
price
tag will be over $7 billion a year, or about 13% of the Department's
entire budget. And by the end of each year, the cost will be even
higher due to the increased number of autistic kids entering the
system
each year.


In the absence of a cure and drug company accountability, local tax
payers will be forced to carry the life-long load of educating and
caring for a generation of injured people and state and local taxes
will go through the roof.


The CDC and FDA policy decisions regarding vaccine approval and safety
recommendations are made through physician advisory panels whose
members often have financial relationships with the very same drug
companies that they are supposed to regulate.

Yet you cannot show me any cases where their supposed ties to the drug
companies resulted in any changes in how they vote.

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Unreal.

I give up.

I don't blame you. You have no evidence to back your claim.


LOL!








For example, during a congressional hearing on potential conflicts of
interests at the FDA, it was revealed that 60% of the advisory board
members who voted to approve the poisonous rotavirus vaccine had
financial ties to the drug companies manufacturing the vaccine. The
committee also discovered that half of the CDC members had ties to the
rotavirus makers.

Did the other 40% of members vote for or against the vaccines?

Jeff

Oh, my, first one cannot show Jeff, any cases where their supposed ties to
the drug
companies resulted in any changes in how they vote.

Supposed ties.


Now, he wants to know if the other 40% of members vote for or against the
vaccines?

Actually, they voted for the continued health of kids.


Bless.

*;*