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  #1  
Old March 12th 08, 03:50 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,misc.kids,misc.headlines,talk.politics.medicine
Jan Drew
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Default Autism Vaccine Decision

http://www.whptv.com/news/local/stor...f-ed1aebfc427c

Autism Vaccine Decision

They exist to protect our children from deadly diseases, but a landmark
federal case may shed some doubt about vaccines in the minds of parents. A
court has decided to compensate a family who claims their daughter developed
autism from her vaccine.

"For the first time the court has conceded in a case that indicates that
vaccines can indeed cause autism," says John Gilmore, Autism United.

The case is that of 9-year-old Hannah Poling of Atlanta, Georgia. Before the
concession, Hannah's case was to be heard in the federal vaccine court.

The decision is fanning the flames of the controversial firestorm dividing
the medical and autism communities. Thousands of parents, including Adams
County mom Holly Bortfeld, claim their child's autism was injected into them
with the vaccine.

CBS 21 News interviewed Bortfeld last April about her son Max, who was
diagnosed with autism ten years ago.

"I believe he got autism from his vaccinations," says Bortfeld.

The specific culprit is thimerosal, a mercury based preservative that was in
most vaccines. It was removed in 2001.

But for max, Hannah and scores of others who got the shots before then, this
case out of Atlanta is helping their arguments. But will it hurt vaccines?

"I think it's a little bit of a leap of faith to go from this case to
vaccines definitely cause autism," says Dr. Paul Williams, Houcks Road
Family Practice.

Dr. Williams says since the documents on Hannah's case are sealed, he says
he doesn't know what the judge's based their decision on. Was it scientific
fact or was it just political expediency?

As for vaccines today Dr. Williams says, "At this point I feel comfortable
and confident that the current vaccine supply is safe and I wouldn't
hesitate in vaccinating my family or my patients."

Thimerosal remains in some vaccines including the flu shot.

Hannah's family is asking for mercury to be removed from all vaccines, and
they just might have the political weight behind them now to get their
demands met.

Hannah Poling was also diagnosed with mitochondrial, a rare metabolic
disorder that shares symptoms with autism. The federal court concedes
vaccines may have caused that disorder and "autism-like" symptoms in Hannah.

  #2  
Old March 12th 08, 04:10 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,misc.kids,misc.headlines,talk.politics.medicine
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Default Autism Vaccine Decision

On Mar 11, 11:50*pm, "Jan Drew" wrote:
http://www.whptv.com/news/local/stor...88f13a3-526e-4...

Autism Vaccine Decision

They exist to protect our children from deadly diseases,



This is not true. Vaccines exist to supposedly protect our children
from diseases. The "deadly" remark is not warrented unless you have
an incompetent allopath for a doctor.



The specific culprit is thimerosal, a mercury based preservative that was in
most vaccines. It was removed in 2001.



This is not an accurate fact. The thimerosal laden vaccines were
available and used until at least 2003. The thimerosal amount was
"reduced" in some vaccines but remains high in others. The actual
amount of thimerosal children are exposed to, from the fetus to the 3
year old, has actually increased.




Thimerosal remains in some vaccines including the flu shot.


This is an accurate statement. It is also in the Rhogam shots during
pregnancy.



Hannah Poling was also diagnosed with mitochondrial, a rare metabolic
disorder that shares symptoms with autism. The federal court concedes
vaccines may have caused that disorder and "autism-like" symptoms in Hannah.


I suspect that all autistics have "autism-like " symptoms. What in
the hell does some weasel word like "autism-like" symptoms mean?

DrCee
You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons.

  #3  
Old March 12th 08, 08:20 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,misc.kids,misc.headlines,talk.politics.medicine
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Default Autism Vaccine Decision

Jan Drew wrote:
http://www.whptv.com/news/local/stor...f-ed1aebfc427c


Autism Vaccine Decision


Wrong. The vaccines supposedly aggravated a mitochrondrial disorder. The
child did not have autism.

They exist to protect our children from deadly diseases, but a landmark
federal case may shed some doubt about vaccines in the minds of parents.
A court has decided to compensate a family who claims their daughter
developed autism from her vaccine.


The child developed nothing from here vaccine. She had a preexisting
condition that was aggravated.

"For the first time the court has conceded in a case that indicates that
vaccines can indeed cause autism," says John Gilmore, Autism United.


No, it didn't. It said that a mitochrondrial condition was aggravated.
It is clear from the report that she didn't have autism.

The case is that of 9-year-old Hannah Poling of Atlanta, Georgia. Before
the concession, Hannah's case was to be heard in the federal vaccine court.

The decision is fanning the flames of the controversial firestorm
dividing the medical and autism communities. Thousands of parents,
including Adams County mom Holly Bortfeld, claim their child's autism
was injected into them with the vaccine.


The can claim that Eliot Spitzer has great morals. But that doesn't make
it trie.

CBS 21 News interviewed Bortfeld last April about her son Max, who was
diagnosed with autism ten years ago.

"I believe he got autism from his vaccinations," says Bortfeld.


Believe is the keyword. Many studies have been done to determine if
vaccines cause autism. The Institute of Medicine, part of the National
Academy of Science, examined this issue very carefully and determined
that vaccines do not cause autism.

The specific culprit is thimerosal, a mercury based preservative that
was in most vaccines. It was removed in 2001.


Yet, after thimerosal was removed, the rate of autism did not go down.

...

Jeff
  #4  
Old March 13th 08, 12:38 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,misc.kids,misc.headlines,talk.politics.medicine
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Default Autism Vaccine Decision

On Mar 12, 4:20*pm, Jeff

Believe is the keyword. Many studies have been done to determine if
vaccines cause autism. The Institute of Medicine, part of the National
Academy of Science, examined this issue very carefully and determined
that vaccines do not cause autism.



Jeff


LOL, that, and about 1 billion US bogus dollars will get you what ever
you want.
As a scientist, I am ashamed of what the IOM has done. The decision
and the actions of the IOM is totally unscientific.

The IOM and the NAC has examined their options and decided to align
themselves with the power and the money, the truth be damned.

You must then live your life as you see it. For me, to hell with the
medical monopoly.

DrCee
You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons.



  #5  
Old March 13th 08, 04:33 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,misc.kids,misc.headlines,talk.politics.medicine
Jan Drew
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Default Autism Vaccine Decision


wrote in message
...
On Mar 11, 11:50 pm, "Jan Drew" wrote:
http://www.whptv.com/news/local/stor...88f13a3-526e-4...

Autism Vaccine Decision

They exist to protect our children from deadly diseases,



This is not true. Vaccines exist to supposedly protect our children
from diseases. The "deadly" remark is not warrented unless you have
an incompetent allopath for a doctor.

Agreed.

but a landmark
federal case may shed some doubt about vaccines in the minds of parents. A
court has decided to compensate a family who claims their daughter developed
autism from her vaccine.

"For the first time the court has conceded in a case that indicates that
vaccines can indeed cause autism," says John Gilmore, Autism United.


The specific culprit is thimerosal, a mercury based preservative that was
in
most vaccines. It was removed in 2001.



This is not an accurate fact. The thimerosal laden vaccines were
available and used until at least 2003. The thimerosal amount was
"reduced" in some vaccines but remains high in others. The actual
amount of thimerosal children are exposed to, from the fetus to the 3
year old, has actually increased.

As I have posted.

Could you please not take the entire article apart?
This is done by the *gang*.

The case is that of 9-year-old Hannah Poling of Atlanta, Georgia. Before the
concession, Hannah's case was to be heard in the federal vaccine court.

The decision is fanning the flames of the controversial firestorm dividing
the medical and autism communities. Thousands of parents, including Adams
County mom Holly Bortfeld, claim their child's autism was injected into them
with the vaccine.

CBS 21 News interviewed Bortfeld last April about her son Max, who was
diagnosed with autism ten years ago.

"I believe he got autism from his vaccinations," says Bortfeld.

The specific culprit is thimerosal, a mercury based preservative that was in
most vaccines. It was removed in 2001.

But for max, Hannah and scores of others who got the shots before then, this
case out of Atlanta is helping their arguments. But will it hurt vaccines?

"I think it's a little bit of a leap of faith to go from this case to
vaccines definitely cause autism," says Dr. Paul Williams, Houcks Road
Family Practice.

Dr. Williams says since the documents on Hannah's case are sealed, he says
he doesn't know what the judge's based their decision on. Was it scientific
fact or was it just political expediency?

As for vaccines today Dr. Williams says, "At this point I feel comfortable
and confident that the current vaccine supply is safe and I wouldn't
hesitate in vaccinating my family or my patients."

Thimerosal remains in some vaccines including the flu shot.

Hannah's family is asking for mercury to be removed from all vaccines, and
they just might have the political weight behind them now to get their
demands met.

Hannah Poling was also diagnosed with mitochondrial, a rare metabolic
disorder that shares symptoms with autism. The federal court concedes
vaccines may have caused that disorder and "autism-like" symptoms in Hannah.



Thimerosal remains in some vaccines including the flu shot.


This is an accurate statement. It is also in the Rhogam shots during
pregnancy.

Yes, I know



Hannah Poling was also diagnosed with mitochondrial, a rare metabolic
disorder that shares symptoms with autism. The federal court concedes
vaccines may have caused that disorder and "autism-like" symptoms in
Hannah.


I suspect that all autistics have "autism-like " symptoms. What in
the hell does some weasel word like "autism-like" symptoms mean?

Exactly. Ask the *federal government*.

DrCee
You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons.

  #6  
Old March 13th 08, 05:24 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,misc.kids,misc.headlines,talk.politics.medicine
Jan Drew
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Posts: 2,707
Default Autism Vaccine Decision


"Jeff" wrote in message
news:rWWBj.7405$hr3.98@trnddc04...
Jan Drew wrote:
http://www.whptv.com/news/local/stor...f-ed1aebfc427c
Autism Vaccine Decision


Wrong. The vaccines supposedly aggravated a mitochrondrial disorder. The
child did not have autism.


They exist to protect our children from deadly diseases, but a landmark
federal case may shed some doubt about vaccines in the minds of parents. A
court has decided to compensate a family who claims their daughter developed
autism from her vaccine.

"For the first time the court has conceded in a case that indicates that
vaccines can indeed cause autism," says John Gilmore, Autism United.


They exist to protect our children from deadly diseases, but a landmark
federal case may shed some doubt about vaccines in the minds of parents.
A court has decided to compensate a family who claims their daughter
developed autism from her vaccine.


The child developed nothing from here vaccine. She had a preexisting
condition that was aggravated.


"For the first time the court has conceded in a case that indicates that
vaccines can indeed cause autism," says John Gilmore, Autism United.


"For the first time the court has conceded in a case that indicates that
vaccines can indeed cause autism," says John Gilmore, Autism United.


No, it didn't. It said that a mitochrondrial condition was aggravated. It
is clear from the report that she didn't have autism.


No, *it* did not.

It said:

Hannah Poling was also diagnosed with mitochondrial, a rare metabolic
disorder that shares symptoms with autism. The federal court concedes
vaccines may have caused that disorder and "autism-like" symptoms in Hannah.

The case is that of 9-year-old Hannah Poling of Atlanta, Georgia. Before
the concession, Hannah's case was to be heard in the federal vaccine
court.

The decision is fanning the flames of the controversial firestorm
dividing the medical and autism communities. Thousands of parents,
including Adams County mom Holly Bortfeld, claim their child's autism was
injected into them with the vaccine.


The can claim that Eliot Spitzer has great morals. But that doesn't make
it trie.


What is *trie*?

CBS 21 News interviewed Bortfeld last April about her son Max, who was
diagnosed with autism ten years ago.

"I believe he got autism from his vaccinations," says Bortfeld.


Believe is the keyword. Many studies have been done to determine if
vaccines cause autism.The Institute of Medicine, part of the National

Academy of Science, examined this issue very carefully and determined
that vaccines do not cause autism.


The Institute of Medicine, part of the National
Academy of Science are *organized medicine*.

http://www.citizen.org/congress/civj...es.cfm?ID=8788

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...C0A96F9482 60


Thursday, March 13, 2008

Fraud in Medical Research Tied to Lax Rules

LEAD: An ''excessively permissive'' attitude by institutions tends to allow
careless and sometimes even fraudulent medical research, a committee of the
national Institute of Medicine reported today.

An ''excessively permissive'' attitude by institutions tends to allow
careless and sometimes even fraudulent medical research, a committee of the
national Institute of Medicine reported today.

The panel, which was formed to study misconduct in biomedical research, said
better research standards and systematic ways of investigating laboratory
irresponsibility are needed.

Although the committee said it believed that serious misconduct in science
is rare, it concluded that ''institutions fail to detect and correct early
deviant behavior primarily because of an excessively permissive research
environment that tolerates careless practices.'' Pressures and Carelessness

Financing pressures and an overemphasis on publication of research in
scientific journals also encourage what the committee called ''substandard
practices.''

The Institute of Medicine, one of the National Institutes of Health,
organized the 17-member committee in 1987 after a series of fraudulent and
careless laboratory reports came to light. The committee was asked to
develop proposals to strengthen professional standards in Federal and
academic laboratories.

Few institutions have explicit research guidelines, the report said, and
this allows the system ''to tolerate substandard activities by a small
number of individual investigators who fail to observe generally accepted
practices.''

The committee said that in the past decade there have been incidents of
serious research misconduct at Massachusetts General Hospital, Yale
University, Cornell University, Harvard Medical School and Boston
University.

It said these incidents ''raised new questions about the ability of academic
institutions to conduct objective investigations of misconduct by their own
faculty members or research staff.'' Failure of Peer Review

A system of peer review and replication of research findings has been a
standard way to guard against science error in the past, the committee said.
But it said this system has failed because findings often are not checked by
replication in other laboratories, and the peer review system depends on
trust that can be misplaced.

The committee noted that researchers are pressured to build up a list of
publications to which they have contributed. Academic advancement and salary
increases can depend upon the number of publications.

As a result, the committee said, some authors credited with reports often
participated only marginally, the leaders of some laboratories put their
names on all research from their labs, and the names of prominent
researchers are often added to those of the true authors in an effort to
assure publication. Recommendations of Panel

To correct the problems, the committee made 16 recommendations, including
these:

* The National Institutes of Health should establish an office to promote
responsible research and to evaluate investigations of misconduct by
institutions.

* By 1992 all institutions conducting medical research for the institutes
should be required to adopt specific policies to promote ethical research
practices and to investigate misconduct.

* The institutes should limit the number of publications considered in a
grant application so that evaluations of a researcher's past work are based
on quality, not quantity.

* Academic departments should adopt new authorship policies that will not
emphasize quantity.

* Scientific journals should develop policies ''to promote responsible
authorship practices,'' including a system to respond to charges of
misconduct.

Correction: February 16, 1989, Thursday, Late City Final Edition

Because of an editing error, an article in Science Times on Tuesday about
steps to reduce research fraud referred to the Institute of Medicine
incorrectly. It is a branch of the National Academy of Sciences, not the
National Institutes of Health.

http://www.fraudpreventioninstitute....cles_Fraud.php

http://jdr.iadrjournals.org/cgi/reprint/69/6/1345.pdf

And that is just for starters, notkidsdoc,

Real one on HealthFraud list: Jeffrey Peter Joseph Utz, M.D.

[2007] "Robert Watson"
Jeff Utz
Jeff Utz, M.D.
Jeffrey P. Utz, M.D. Hence "Putz"
http://www.msu.edu/~utz/
Jeffrey Peter, M.D.
Wyle E. Coyote
Jeff Utz (Jan 2003) (again 3008)
Jeff
Jeff (2007)


The specific culprit is thimerosal, a mercury based preservative that was
in most vaccines. It was removed in 2001.


Which is not true.

...

Jeff


Jeffrey Peter Joseph Utz, M.D. Hence "Putz".

  #7  
Old March 13th 08, 08:11 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,misc.kids,misc.headlines,talk.politics.medicine
Jeff
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Default Autism Vaccine Decision

Jan Drew wrote:

"Jeff" wrote in message
news:rWWBj.7405$hr3.98@trnddc04...
Jan Drew wrote:
http://www.whptv.com/news/local/stor...f-ed1aebfc427c
Autism Vaccine Decision


Wrong. The vaccines supposedly aggravated a mitochrondrial disorder.
The child did not have autism.


They exist to protect our children from deadly diseases, but a landmark
federal case may shed some doubt about vaccines in the minds of parents. A
court has decided to compensate a family who claims their daughter
developed
autism from her vaccine.

"For the first time the court has conceded in a case that indicates that
vaccines can indeed cause autism," says John Gilmore, Autism United.


You and John Gilmore can say that they concede that the vaccines caused
autism, but if you read the actual documents, you will see that they
very clearly said that they found that the vaccines aggravated a
mitochrondrial disorder which caused an encephalopathy. Very clearly,
they did not say that the vaccines caused autism.


They exist to protect our children from deadly diseases, but a
landmark federal case may shed some doubt about vaccines in the minds
of parents. A court has decided to compensate a family who claims
their daughter developed autism from her vaccine.


The child developed nothing from here vaccine. She had a preexisting
condition that was aggravated.


"For the first time the court has conceded in a case that indicates that
vaccines can indeed cause autism," says John Gilmore, Autism United.


"For the first time the court has conceded in a case that indicates
that vaccines can indeed cause autism," says John Gilmore, Autism
United.


No, it didn't. It said that a mitochrondrial condition was aggravated.
It is clear from the report that she didn't have autism.


No, *it* did not.

It said:

Hannah Poling was also diagnosed with mitochondrial, a rare metabolic
disorder that shares symptoms with autism. The federal court concedes
vaccines may have caused that disorder and "autism-like" symptoms in
Hannah.


Autism-like symptoms is a description of the symptoms. But note that
"mitochrondrial" has symptoms similar to those of autism. It is not autism.

...

Jeff
  #8  
Old March 14th 08, 01:14 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,misc.kids,misc.headlines,talk.politics.medicine
Jan Drew
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Default Autism Vaccine Decision


"Jeff" wrote in message
news:ITfCj.19655$er2.15369@trnddc08...
Jan Drew wrote:


"Jan Drew" wrote in message
news
http://www.whptv.com/news/local/stor...f-ed1aebfc427c
Autism Vaccine Decision


Wrong. The vaccines supposedly aggravated a mitochrondrial disorder. The
child did not have autism.


They exist to protect our children from deadly diseases, but a landmark
federal case may shed some doubt about vaccines in the minds of parents. A
court has decided to compensate a family who claims their daughter developed
autism from her vaccine.

"For the first time the court has conceded in a case that indicates that
vaccines can indeed cause autism," says John Gilmore, Autism United.


They exist to protect our children from deadly diseases, but a landmark
federal case may shed some doubt about vaccines in the minds of parents.
A court has decided to compensate a family who claims their daughter
developed autism from her vaccine.


The child developed nothing from here vaccine. She had a preexisting
condition that was aggravated.


"For the first time the court has conceded in a case that indicates that
vaccines can indeed cause autism," says John Gilmore, Autism United.


"For the first time the court has conceded in a case that indicates that
vaccines can indeed cause autism," says John Gilmore, Autism United.


No, it didn't. It said that a mitochrondrial condition was aggravated. It
is clear from the report that she didn't have autism.


No, *it* did not.

It said:

Hannah Poling was also diagnosed with mitochondrial, a rare metabolic
disorder that shares symptoms with autism. The federal court concedes
vaccines may have caused that disorder and "autism-like" symptoms in Hannah.

The case is that of 9-year-old Hannah Poling of Atlanta, Georgia. Before
the concession, Hannah's case was to be heard in the federal vaccine
court.

The decision is fanning the flames of the controversial firestorm
dividing the medical and autism communities. Thousands of parents,
including Adams County mom Holly Bortfeld, claim their child's autism was
injected into them with the vaccine.


The can claim that Eliot Spitzer has great morals. But that doesn't make
it trie.


What is *trie*?

CBS 21 News interviewed Bortfeld last April about her son Max, who was
diagnosed with autism ten years ago.

"I believe he got autism from his vaccinations," says Bortfeld.


Believe is the keyword. Many studies have been done to determine if
vaccines cause autism.The Institute of Medicine, part of the National

Academy of Science, examined this issue very carefully and determined
that vaccines do not cause autism.


The Institute of Medicine, part of the National
Academy of Science are *organized medicine*.

http://www.citizen.org/congress/civj...es.cfm?ID=8788

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...C0A96F9482 60


Thursday, March 13, 2008

Fraud in Medical Research Tied to Lax Rules

LEAD: An ''excessively permissive'' attitude by institutions tends to allow
careless and sometimes even fraudulent medical research, a committee of the
national Institute of Medicine reported today.

An ''excessively permissive'' attitude by institutions tends to allow
careless and sometimes even fraudulent medical research, a committee of the
national Institute of Medicine reported today.

The panel, which was formed to study misconduct in biomedical research, said
better research standards and systematic ways of investigating laboratory
irresponsibility are needed.

Although the committee said it believed that serious misconduct in science
is rare, it concluded that ''institutions fail to detect and correct early
deviant behavior primarily because of an excessively permissive research
environment that tolerates careless practices.'' Pressures and Carelessness

Financing pressures and an overemphasis on publication of research in
scientific journals also encourage what the committee called ''substandard
practices.''

The Institute of Medicine, one of the National Institutes of Health,
organized the 17-member committee in 1987 after a series of fraudulent and
careless laboratory reports came to light. The committee was asked to
develop proposals to strengthen professional standards in Federal and
academic laboratories.

Few institutions have explicit research guidelines, the report said, and
this allows the system ''to tolerate substandard activities by a small
number of individual investigators who fail to observe generally accepted
practices.''

The committee said that in the past decade there have been incidents of
serious research misconduct at Massachusetts General Hospital, Yale
University, Cornell University, Harvard Medical School and Boston
University.

It said these incidents ''raised new questions about the ability of academic
institutions to conduct objective investigations of misconduct by their own
faculty members or research staff.'' Failure of Peer Review

A system of peer review and replication of research findings has been a
standard way to guard against science error in the past, the committee said.
But it said this system has failed because findings often are not checked by
replication in other laboratories, and the peer review system depends on
trust that can be misplaced.

The committee noted that researchers are pressured to build up a list of
publications to which they have contributed. Academic advancement and salary
increases can depend upon the number of publications.

As a result, the committee said, some authors credited with reports often
participated only marginally, the leaders of some laboratories put their
names on all research from their labs, and the names of prominent
researchers are often added to those of the true authors in an effort to
assure publication. Recommendations of Panel

To correct the problems, the committee made 16 recommendations, including
these:

* The National Institutes of Health should establish an office to promote
responsible research and to evaluate investigations of misconduct by
institutions.

* By 1992 all institutions conducting medical research for the institutes
should be required to adopt specific policies to promote ethical research
practices and to investigate misconduct.

* The institutes should limit the number of publications considered in a
grant application so that evaluations of a researcher's past work are based
on quality, not quantity.

* Academic departments should adopt new authorship policies that will not
emphasize quantity.

* Scientific journals should develop policies ''to promote responsible
authorship practices,'' including a system to respond to charges of
misconduct.

Correction: February 16, 1989, Thursday, Late City Final Edition

Because of an editing error, an article in Science Times on Tuesday about
steps to reduce research fraud referred to the Institute of Medicine
incorrectly. It is a branch of the National Academy of Sciences, not the
National Institutes of Health.

http://www.fraudpreventioninstitute....cles_Fraud.php

http://jdr.iadrjournals.org/cgi/reprint/69/6/1345.pdf

And that is just for starters, notkidsdoc,

Real one on HealthFraud list: Jeffrey Peter Joseph Utz, M.D.

[2007] "Robert Watson"
Jeff Utz
Jeff Utz, M.D.
Jeffrey P. Utz, M.D. Hence "Putz"
http://www.msu.edu/~utz/
Jeffrey Peter, M.D.
Wyle E. Coyote
Jeff Utz (Jan 2003) (again 3008)
Jeff
Jeff (2007)


The specific culprit is thimerosal, a mercury based preservative that was
in most vaccines. It was removed in 2001.


Which is not true.

...

Jeff


Jeffrey Peter Joseph Utz, M.D. Hence "Putz".


"Jeff" wrote in message
news:rWWBj.7405$hr3.98@trnddc04...
Jan Drew wrote:
http://www.whptv.com/news/local/stor...f-ed1aebfc427c
Autism Vaccine Decision

Wrong. The vaccines supposedly aggravated a mitochrondrial disorder. The
child did not have autism.


They exist to protect our children from deadly diseases, but a landmark
federal case may shed some doubt about vaccines in the minds of parents.
A
court has decided to compensate a family who claims their daughter
developed
autism from her vaccine.

"For the first time the court has conceded in a case that indicates that
vaccines can indeed cause autism," says John Gilmore, Autism United.


You and John Gilmore can say that they concede that the vaccines caused
autism, but if you read the actual documents, you will see that they very
clearly said that they found that the vaccines aggravated a mitochrondrial
disorder which caused an encephalopathy. Very clearly, they did not say
that the vaccines caused autism.


"For the first time the court has conceded in a case that indicates that
vaccines can indeed cause autism," says John Gilmore, Autism United.



They exist to protect our children from deadly diseases, but a landmark
federal case may shed some doubt about vaccines in the minds of
parents. A court has decided to compensate a family who claims their
daughter developed autism from her vaccine.

The child developed nothing from here vaccine. She had a preexisting
condition that was aggravated.


"For the first time the court has conceded in a case that indicates that
vaccines can indeed cause autism," says John Gilmore, Autism United.


"For the first time the court has conceded in a case that indicates
that vaccines can indeed cause autism," says John Gilmore, Autism
United.

No, it didn't. It said that a mitochrondrial condition was aggravated.
It is clear from the report that she didn't have autism.


No, *it* did not.

It said:

Hannah Poling was also diagnosed with mitochondrial, a rare metabolic
disorder that shares symptoms with autism. The federal court concedes
vaccines may have caused that disorder and "autism-like" symptoms in
Hannah.


...

Jeff


I fixed your ... because it is most evident that you cannot handle the
truth.

John Gilmore, executive director of Autism United.

Autism United
Autism United is a coalition of service providers and advocacy groups
centered on Long Island and New York City working together through a
combination of advocacy, community organizing and self-help to provide
better lives for individuals with autism and their families. In September
2007Autism United hosted the first of a series of fundraising Hope Walks to
help support the Harvey Weisenberg Center and to launch the first thorough
and accurate count of people with autism on Long Island. For more
information call John Gilmore, Executive Director at (516) 933-4050.

Autism Groups Unite to Fight for Research and Services

Autism United, a new national coalition, has been formed to bring together
many individual organizations into a cohesive force to fight the autism
epidemic. Providing much needed local services and resources for promising
but under-funded research will be the new group's primary mission. As a
coalition, Autism United's joint organizations will retain their unique
identity while working together for common goals.

Autism United will launch its fundraising operation with an inaugural walk
on September 30 at Belmont Lake State Park in Babylon, New York. Proceeds
from the walk will fund two initial projects, the creation of the Harvey
Weisenberg Resource Center at Family Residences and Essential Enterprises in
Old Bethpage, and a comprehensive study to provide an accurate count of the
number of people with autism living on Long Island.

The model of supporting local services and research of national importance
will be replicated nationwide. Plans are underway for similar events in
other areas of New York, New Jersey, Illinois, West Virginia, Virginia and
Oklahoma.

"Autism United is a grassroots organization formed by parents for parents to
assist families, and fund research and services," said co-founder Evelyn
Ain, "A large portion of the funds will be kept in the local community to
keep this grassroots organization grassrooted." Ain is the parent of a child
with autism and the publisher of Spectrum, a national magazine that covers
autism issues.

The Harvey Weisenberg Center is named in honor of Assemblymember Harvey
Weisenberg, who has long been recognized as the leading advocate in New York
state government for people with disabilities. The center will provide
referrals and information for families on services, schools, health care,
and insurance.

The first research project will be a study to measure the incidence of
autism on Long Island . "We know the number of kids with an autism diagnoses
has been going up by 10 to 15 percent every year since they began keeping
records," said Robert Krakow, a co-founder of Autism United and Board
Chairman of Lifespire, a New York City based non-profit that provides
housing and services for cognitively disabled adults, "We also know that
there are large gaps in the data and it is impossible to plan for the future
or make rational resource allocation decisions if we don't know how many
people are affected."

The founding organizations behind Autism United on Long Island include
A-CHAMP, Developmental Disabilities Institute, Family Residences and
Essential Enterprises, Lifespire, the Long Island Autism Conference, the
Long Island chapter of the National Autism Association, and the
Nassau/Suffolk chapter of the Autism Society of America. Spectrum
Publications is the media sponsor.

More information about Autism United and the fundraising walk can be found
at www.autismunited.org.

Contact: John Gilmore (516) 933-4050


http://www.autismunited.org/pressreleases.html

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On Mar 11, 11:50 pm, "Jan Drew" wrote:
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Autism Vaccine Decision

They exist to protect our children from deadly diseases,



This is not true. Vaccines exist to supposedly protect our children
from diseases. The "deadly" remark is not warrented unless you have
an incompetent allopath for a doctor.



REPLY:
A kiddo just died from the flu in MA a few weeks ago. A vaccine certainly
may have saved a life there. Vaccines do protect against diseases that can
and do kill. They are also diseases that even if they don't kill can have
serious morbidity.


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On Mar 11, 11:50*pm, "Jan Drew" wrote:
http://www.whptv.com/news/local/stor...88f13a3-526e-4...

Autism Vaccine Decision

They exist to protect our children from deadly diseases,


This is not true. Vaccines exist to supposedly protect our children
from diseases. The "deadly" remark is not warrented unless you have
an incompetent allopath for a doctor.


According to Cee, his heroes the orthopaths could cure anything. Of
course, we have no way of knowing this now and it seems unlikely.

The specific culprit is thimerosal, a mercury based preservative
that was in most vaccines. It was removed in 2001.


This is not an accurate fact. The thimerosal laden vaccines were
available and used until at least 2003. The thimerosal amount was
"reduced" in some vaccines but remains high in others. The actual
amount of thimerosal children are exposed to, from the fetus to the 3
year old, has actually increased.


That, of course, is a complete lie, since the number of vaccines
containing thimerosal that are given to children is now much less than
it was a decade ago, and the amount of mercury remaining in the
current vaccines is so small that the entire vaccine series contains
less than a single injection did a decade ago.

(Flu vaccine can be an exception. If this worries you, don't get your
kid a flu shot, or insist on the type that's thimerosal-free.)

Thimerosal remains in some vaccines including the flu shot.


This is an accurate statement. It is also in the Rhogam shots during
pregnancy.


Which not every woman gets, of course.

Hannah Poling was also diagnosed with mitochondrial, a rare metabolic
disorder that shares symptoms with autism. The federal court concedes
vaccines may have caused that disorder and "autism-like" symptoms in Hannah.


I suspect that all autistics have "autism-like " symptoms. What in
the hell does some weasel word like "autism-like" symptoms mean?


You could look it up, but you'd just dismiss it as inaccurate when you
found out it wasn't autism. So why bother?

That's the great thing about Cee. He already has all the answers, so
he never needs to learn anything or ask any questions.

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