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Good-Bye Germ Theory by Dr. William Trebing
"Peter Parry" wrote in message I suspect the only thing she was ever right about was the amount in her bank account. do try harder "We also hear of the noble work of Father Damien among the lepers of Hawaii, but we are not told that there was not one leper in the whole of the Hawaiian Islands before the noble work of Jenner reached them. By the nineties, 10 per cent of the natives were lepers."---Lionel Dole |
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Good-Bye Germ Theory by Dr. William Trebing
"Peter Bowditch" wrote in message "In any discussion involving science or medicine, citing Whale.to as a credible source loses you the argument immediately ...and gets you laughed out of the room" we all know scopies law but it is a logiocal fallacy dear boy. As stupid as you could possibly get, and just ad hominem essentially. But that is what you are reduced to when you have absolutely no argument to refute the documents on whale. |
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Good-Bye Germ Theory by Dr. William Trebing
john wrote:
"Peter Bowditch" wrote in message "In any discussion involving science or medicine, citing Whale.to as a credible source loses you the argument immediately ...and gets you laughed out of the room" we all know scopies law but it is a logiocal fallacy dear boy. As stupid as you could possibly get, and just ad hominem essentially. But that is what you are reduced to when you have absolutely no argument to refute the documents on whale. I agree with Peter Bodwitch. The evidence is so stupid and flimsey and so poor, that suggesting that the whale.to site is a good source of evidence is evidence that the person making the claim has very little knowledge in the fields of science, evidence and medicine. John may believe otherwise. It's his choice to ignore good science and support the utter crap on the whale.to site. Jeff |
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Good-Bye Germ Theory by Dr. William Trebing
"john" wrote:
"Peter Bowditch" wrote in message "In any discussion involving science or medicine, citing Whale.to as a credible source loses you the argument immediately ...and gets you laughed out of the room" we all know scopies law but it is a logiocal fallacy dear boy. As stupid as you could possibly get, and just ad hominem essentially. But that is what you are reduced to when you have absolutely no argument to refute the documents on whale. Please explain why it is a logical fallacy. -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com |
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Good-Bye Germ Theory by Dr. William Trebing
On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 22:44:45 -0000, "john" wrote:
"We also hear of the noble work of Father Damien among the lepers of Hawaii, but we are not told that there was not one leper in the whole of the Hawaiian Islands before the noble work of Jenner reached them. Another unproven unverifiable claim from an unknown source by a peddler of quack medicine. Is this the best you have? Lionel Dole Luminary of the now long defunct National Anti-Vaccination League in the 1960's and disciple of the unhinged Miss Lily Loat. Remind us, what were his qualifications and training? |
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Good-Bye Germ Theory by Dr. William Trebing
"Peter Parry" wrote in message ... On Fri, 1 Jan 2010 22:44:45 -0000, "john" wrote: "We also hear of the noble work of Father Damien among the lepers of Hawaii, but we are not told that there was not one leper in the whole of the Hawaiian Islands before the noble work of Jenner reached them. Another unproven unverifiable claim from an unknown source by a peddler of quack medicine. Is this the best you have? Study arm to arm vaccination which was 75% of vaccination in 1890. "I should be sorry to see a leper cook, and I go further than that. In vaccinating, I think hardly a medical man would take vaccine lymph from the arm of a leper infant. I know it has been our practice for the last twenty years not to do so." ---1883 Dr Henry Ebden, President of the (South African) Medical Board Lionel Dole Luminary of the now long defunct National Anti-Vaccination League in the 1960's and disciple of the unhinged Miss Lily Loat. Remind us, what were his qualifications and training? You mean her, and that is ad hominem, but if you want qualifications try Crookshank, Russell, Hadwen, etc http://www.whale.to/vaccine/smallpox_c.html CROOKSHANK, EDGAR MARCH, M.B. Lond. (Honours in Obst.) 1884, M.R.C.S. Eng. 1881 (King's Coll.); Exhib. and Gold Medallist in Anat. 1st M.B. Lond. 1879; Fell. King's Coll.; Mem. Roy. Micros. Soc. and Path. Soc.; Prof, of Comp. Path, and Bacteriol. King's Coll.; late House Surg. King's Coll. Hosp., and Civil Surg. Med. Staff Egyptian Campaign (Medal and Clasp, Tel-el-Kebir, and Khedive's Star). Director of the Bacteriological Laboratory, King's College, London |
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Good-Bye Germ Theory by Dr. William Trebing
"Peter Bowditch" wrote in message we all know scopies law but it is a logiocal fallacy dear boy. As stupid as you could possibly get, and just ad hominem essentially. But that is what you are reduced to when you have absolutely no argument to refute the documents on whale. Please explain why it is a logical fallacy. you first, explain Scopies law |
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Good-Bye Germ Theory by Dr. William Trebing
On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 15:35:36 -0000, "john" wrote:
"Peter Parry" wrote Another unproven unverifiable claim from an unknown source by a peddler of quack medicine. Is this the best you have? Study arm to arm vaccination which was 75% of vaccination in 1890. I hate to have to break this to you but it isn't 1890 any more. "I should be sorry to see a leper cook, and I go further than that. In vaccinating, I think hardly a medical man would take vaccine lymph from the arm of a leper infant. I know it has been our practice for the last twenty years not to do so." ---1883 Dr Henry Ebden, President of the (South African) Medical Board What relevance do you think this quotation, assuming it is correct, has to today? Luminary of the now long defunct National Anti-Vaccination League in the 1960's and disciple of the unhinged Miss Lily Loat. Remind us, what were his qualifications and training? You mean her, I mean Dole, I know Loat had no qualifications or experience whatsoever as she spent her life as secretary to the league. and and that is ad hominem, No, it is asking for the qualifications of the person making a quotation you are relying upon. It would be nice to see the report mentioned but I doubt it ever existed. Victorian England had many odd societies such as the anti vaccination league and all relied upon hectoring pamphlets and letters to promote their cause. Very few were noted for the accuracy of their content. try Crookshank, Russell, Hadwen, etc Can't you find anything less than 140 years old? I realise things like bone waggling and Homeopathy have not advanced since then but almost everyone else has. CROOKSHANK, EDGAR MARCH, M.B. Would that be the Crookshank who thought cowpox and smallpox were quite different so advocated a more dangerous vaccine made from smallpox instead? Hadwen, member of the Plymouth Brethren and the London Association for the Prevention of Premature Burial. A skilled big-game hunter and vegetarian.known for his denial of the germ theory of disease. All this may be of interest to students of the history of medicine but really, is this all you have to rely upon? |
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Good-Bye Germ Theory by Dr. William Trebing
"Peter Parry" wrote in message Study arm to arm vaccination which was 75% of vaccination in 1890. I hate to have to break this to you but it isn't 1890 any more. You claimed smallpox vax never spread syphilis, eg into Hawaii. What relevance do you think this quotation, assuming it is correct, has to today? You claimed smallpox vax never spread syphilis, eg into Hawaii. Can't you find anything less than 140 years old? I realise things like bone waggling and Homeopathy have not advanced since then but almost everyone else has. Oh really, still to cure anything apart from bacterial infections. And history, annoying isn't it when it demolishes 150 years of smallpox vax, as mass death agent. Without saving one single life from smallpox CROOKSHANK, EDGAR MARCH, M.B. Would that be the Crookshank who thought cowpox and smallpox were quite different so advocated a more dangerous vaccine made from smallpox instead? Hadwen, member of the Plymouth Brethren and the London Association for the Prevention of Premature Burial. A skilled big-game hunter and vegetarian.known for his denial of the germ theory of disease. All this may be of interest to students of the history of medicine but really, is this all you have to rely upon? Yes, history, annoying isn't it when it demolishes 150 years of smallpox vax |
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Good-Bye Germ Theory by Dr. William Trebing
"john" wrote:
"Peter Bowditch" wrote in message we all know scopies law but it is a logiocal fallacy dear boy. As stupid as you could possibly get, and just ad hominem essentially. But that is what you are reduced to when you have absolutely no argument to refute the documents on whale. Please explain why it is a logical fallacy. you first, explain Scopies law http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Scopie's_Law "In any discussion involving science or medicine, citing Whale.to as a credible source loses you the argument immediately ...and gets you laughed out of the room". It is self-explanatory, but for those with no ability to understand English it means that anyone citing a reference source that is known to be highly suspect must be suspected of lacking any ability to think for themselves, and therefore whatever they are saying can be weighted accordingly and dismissed without further examination. -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com |
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