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Old April 9th 04, 10:07 PM
Werebat
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Default So how'd I make out?

Went to court the other day to adjust Child Support (this was at the
demand of CSE/Welfare, although my ex has recently gotten off of
Welfare).

We had continued from the last court meeting, because we had agreed to
come to an agreement between ourselves about what we would be satisfied
with, and that my ex would get off Welfare so CSE wouldn't have a reason
to demand as much as possible.

We have joint legal and physical custody, and share our son 50/50
(actually 40/20/40, with my parents taking him 20% of the time).

In our state, based on our salaries (I earn about $55,000 and she
is on disability and earns, well, nothing) the guidelines would award her
$698 per month if she had full custody and I were non-custodial.

After some discussion, and her backing out of previous agreements at the
drop of a hat (disagreeing with $350 per month because she felt it was
"not enough", then demanding $375 and backing out of that as soon as I
agreed to it ("No, I remember I said $400 per month..."), I settled on
$400 per month. Yeah, with her having him 40% of the time. 10% more
than the typical NCP.

It wasn't all a ripscam though. The really good thing that came out of
this is that she demanded that CSE be taken out of the picture entirely,
as they had apparently been sending her less than the amount they should
have for the last few months (while they were involved in the case). Now
while no one cares that they swindled me (took a lump payment of $600 and
sat on it for 3 months so they could collect interest -- their records
indicated that I had paid them the money, but also that I still owed the
money, somehow), they can't just blow her off when she says they had
sticky fingers when handling HER money and demands that they be removed
from the equation. I have to say it did feel good to hear CSE's
representative mumble ineffectively when we both stood *together* in the
courtroom and told the judge that *we* didn't want them involved because
they were crooks. They'd have just dismissed me as "another deadbeat
dad" if it was just me saying it, but they didn't have that option with
her saying the same thing in the same place at the same time.

Also, CSE's rep (possibly a bit embarrassed?) made the magnimonious offer
of "zeroing out" my account with them, so that no money was owed at all
(this was apparently to get rid of the interest that had accrued while
they were sitting on that lump payment). Nice. This means that when
they come sniffing after the years worth of money my ex was collecting
from me directly via welfare fraud (not telling me she was on welfare), I
can produce a document signed by a judge that says my account was "zeroed
out" as of April 7th. I've given my ex a copy in case they come after
her. Looks like the succeeded in screwing the government over for a
year. Good for her! I hate those rat *******s even more than I despise
her lazy ass.

So how'd I make out?

- Ron ^*^
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Old April 10th 04, 03:55 AM
Cloney
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Default So how'd I make out?

Werebat wrote:

Went to court the other day to adjust Child Support (this was at the
demand of CSE/Welfare, although my ex has recently gotten off of
Welfare).

We had continued from the last court meeting, because we had agreed to
come to an agreement between ourselves about what we would be satisfied
with, and that my ex would get off Welfare so CSE wouldn't have a reason
to demand as much as possible.

We have joint legal and physical custody, and share our son 50/50
(actually 40/20/40, with my parents taking him 20% of the time).

In our state, based on our salaries (I earn about $55,000 and she
is on disability and earns, well, nothing) the guidelines would award her
$698 per month if she had full custody and I were non-custodial.

After some discussion, and her backing out of previous agreements at the
drop of a hat (disagreeing with $350 per month because she felt it was
"not enough", then demanding $375 and backing out of that as soon as I
agreed to it ("No, I remember I said $400 per month..."), I settled on
$400 per month. Yeah, with her having him 40% of the time. 10% more
than the typical NCP.

It wasn't all a ripscam though. The really good thing that came out of
this is that she demanded that CSE be taken out of the picture entirely,
as they had apparently been sending her less than the amount they should
have for the last few months (while they were involved in the case). Now
while no one cares that they swindled me (took a lump payment of $600 and
sat on it for 3 months so they could collect interest -- their records
indicated that I had paid them the money, but also that I still owed the
money, somehow), they can't just blow her off when she says they had
sticky fingers when handling HER money and demands that they be removed
from the equation. I have to say it did feel good to hear CSE's
representative mumble ineffectively when we both stood *together* in the
courtroom and told the judge that *we* didn't want them involved because
they were crooks. They'd have just dismissed me as "another deadbeat
dad" if it was just me saying it, but they didn't have that option with
her saying the same thing in the same place at the same time.

Also, CSE's rep (possibly a bit embarrassed?) made the magnimonious offer
of "zeroing out" my account with them, so that no money was owed at all
(this was apparently to get rid of the interest that had accrued while
they were sitting on that lump payment). Nice. This means that when
they come sniffing after the years worth of money my ex was collecting
from me directly via welfare fraud (not telling me she was on welfare), I
can produce a document signed by a judge that says my account was "zeroed
out" as of April 7th. I've given my ex a copy in case they come after
her. Looks like the succeeded in screwing the government over for a
year. Good for her! I hate those rat *******s even more than I despise
her lazy ass.

So how'd I make out?


Not too bad, I'd say.

Cloney
  #3  
Old April 10th 04, 03:55 AM
Cloney
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Default So how'd I make out?

Werebat wrote:

Went to court the other day to adjust Child Support (this was at the
demand of CSE/Welfare, although my ex has recently gotten off of
Welfare).

We had continued from the last court meeting, because we had agreed to
come to an agreement between ourselves about what we would be satisfied
with, and that my ex would get off Welfare so CSE wouldn't have a reason
to demand as much as possible.

We have joint legal and physical custody, and share our son 50/50
(actually 40/20/40, with my parents taking him 20% of the time).

In our state, based on our salaries (I earn about $55,000 and she
is on disability and earns, well, nothing) the guidelines would award her
$698 per month if she had full custody and I were non-custodial.

After some discussion, and her backing out of previous agreements at the
drop of a hat (disagreeing with $350 per month because she felt it was
"not enough", then demanding $375 and backing out of that as soon as I
agreed to it ("No, I remember I said $400 per month..."), I settled on
$400 per month. Yeah, with her having him 40% of the time. 10% more
than the typical NCP.

It wasn't all a ripscam though. The really good thing that came out of
this is that she demanded that CSE be taken out of the picture entirely,
as they had apparently been sending her less than the amount they should
have for the last few months (while they were involved in the case). Now
while no one cares that they swindled me (took a lump payment of $600 and
sat on it for 3 months so they could collect interest -- their records
indicated that I had paid them the money, but also that I still owed the
money, somehow), they can't just blow her off when she says they had
sticky fingers when handling HER money and demands that they be removed
from the equation. I have to say it did feel good to hear CSE's
representative mumble ineffectively when we both stood *together* in the
courtroom and told the judge that *we* didn't want them involved because
they were crooks. They'd have just dismissed me as "another deadbeat
dad" if it was just me saying it, but they didn't have that option with
her saying the same thing in the same place at the same time.

Also, CSE's rep (possibly a bit embarrassed?) made the magnimonious offer
of "zeroing out" my account with them, so that no money was owed at all
(this was apparently to get rid of the interest that had accrued while
they were sitting on that lump payment). Nice. This means that when
they come sniffing after the years worth of money my ex was collecting
from me directly via welfare fraud (not telling me she was on welfare), I
can produce a document signed by a judge that says my account was "zeroed
out" as of April 7th. I've given my ex a copy in case they come after
her. Looks like the succeeded in screwing the government over for a
year. Good for her! I hate those rat *******s even more than I despise
her lazy ass.

So how'd I make out?


Not too bad, I'd say.

Cloney
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Old April 10th 04, 03:55 AM
Cloney
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Default So how'd I make out?

Werebat wrote:

Went to court the other day to adjust Child Support (this was at the
demand of CSE/Welfare, although my ex has recently gotten off of
Welfare).

We had continued from the last court meeting, because we had agreed to
come to an agreement between ourselves about what we would be satisfied
with, and that my ex would get off Welfare so CSE wouldn't have a reason
to demand as much as possible.

We have joint legal and physical custody, and share our son 50/50
(actually 40/20/40, with my parents taking him 20% of the time).

In our state, based on our salaries (I earn about $55,000 and she
is on disability and earns, well, nothing) the guidelines would award her
$698 per month if she had full custody and I were non-custodial.

After some discussion, and her backing out of previous agreements at the
drop of a hat (disagreeing with $350 per month because she felt it was
"not enough", then demanding $375 and backing out of that as soon as I
agreed to it ("No, I remember I said $400 per month..."), I settled on
$400 per month. Yeah, with her having him 40% of the time. 10% more
than the typical NCP.

It wasn't all a ripscam though. The really good thing that came out of
this is that she demanded that CSE be taken out of the picture entirely,
as they had apparently been sending her less than the amount they should
have for the last few months (while they were involved in the case). Now
while no one cares that they swindled me (took a lump payment of $600 and
sat on it for 3 months so they could collect interest -- their records
indicated that I had paid them the money, but also that I still owed the
money, somehow), they can't just blow her off when she says they had
sticky fingers when handling HER money and demands that they be removed
from the equation. I have to say it did feel good to hear CSE's
representative mumble ineffectively when we both stood *together* in the
courtroom and told the judge that *we* didn't want them involved because
they were crooks. They'd have just dismissed me as "another deadbeat
dad" if it was just me saying it, but they didn't have that option with
her saying the same thing in the same place at the same time.

Also, CSE's rep (possibly a bit embarrassed?) made the magnimonious offer
of "zeroing out" my account with them, so that no money was owed at all
(this was apparently to get rid of the interest that had accrued while
they were sitting on that lump payment). Nice. This means that when
they come sniffing after the years worth of money my ex was collecting
from me directly via welfare fraud (not telling me she was on welfare), I
can produce a document signed by a judge that says my account was "zeroed
out" as of April 7th. I've given my ex a copy in case they come after
her. Looks like the succeeded in screwing the government over for a
year. Good for her! I hate those rat *******s even more than I despise
her lazy ass.

So how'd I make out?


Not too bad, I'd say.

Cloney
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Old April 10th 04, 12:35 PM
Cameron Stevens
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Default So how'd I make out?


"Cloney" wrote in message ...

Not too bad, I'd say.

Cloney


Not bad at all. Sometimes the system can be the ally, but I don't trust
them.

I recently found an accounting error by the FRO (local agency) It took me 2
months but I was able to get it fixed and a previous penalty ($400)
reversed. The Director was very helpful and listened. The key is not to get
angry with them. I liken it to getting angry at a car for not starting. It's
just a machine.

Cameron


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Old April 10th 04, 12:35 PM
Cameron Stevens
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"Cloney" wrote in message ...

Not too bad, I'd say.

Cloney


Not bad at all. Sometimes the system can be the ally, but I don't trust
them.

I recently found an accounting error by the FRO (local agency) It took me 2
months but I was able to get it fixed and a previous penalty ($400)
reversed. The Director was very helpful and listened. The key is not to get
angry with them. I liken it to getting angry at a car for not starting. It's
just a machine.

Cameron


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Old April 10th 04, 12:35 PM
Cameron Stevens
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Default So how'd I make out?


"Cloney" wrote in message ...

Not too bad, I'd say.

Cloney


Not bad at all. Sometimes the system can be the ally, but I don't trust
them.

I recently found an accounting error by the FRO (local agency) It took me 2
months but I was able to get it fixed and a previous penalty ($400)
reversed. The Director was very helpful and listened. The key is not to get
angry with them. I liken it to getting angry at a car for not starting. It's
just a machine.

Cameron


 




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