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Old July 11th 07, 04:30 AM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
fx
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Default Hamilton Cty IN NonCustodial Parents ClassAction Lawsuit....

Hamilton Cty IN NonCustodial Parents ClassAction Lawsuit

http://suehamiltoncounty.blogspot.co...te-family.html


what has been happening in state family courts and CPS agencies is
strictly unconstitutional:

Likewise, the standard practices of child protective "services" are also
extremely violative in nature, very rarely comply with the parents'
Constitutional and Due Process rights to retain custody of their kids,
absent the pre-requisite clear and convincing finding of very serious
unfitness. There must be this, and an attorney, or it's all void.

The real truth, under the real law, and as consistently ruled by the
United States Supreme Court for nearly an entire century now, is that no
state agency, entity, or official - which includes a state family court
judge - may ever take away any parent's custody of their children,
without having first found, and only by "clear and convincing evidence",
that the parent is seriously unfit to parent the children in question -
i.e., what has been happening in state family courts and CPS agencies is
strictly unconstitutional: the taking away of any parents' pre-existing
child custody, without first proving serious parental unfitness by clear
and convincing evidence.

In other words, if a state family court judge has taken away your
pre-existing custody, in either a divorce, paternity, or CPS action,
without first finding, by serious evidence, of serious danger of child
abuse or neglect, then that order - no matter if it is a "temporary" or
"permanent" custody order - is unconstitutional, and is already legally
null and void. Such unlawful orders violate a parent's various
individual constitutional rights to due process, under the 1st, 4th,
5th, 9th, 10th and 14th Amendments, and, for divorce and paternity
custody disputes between the parents, is also violative as gender
discrimination, for upholding the right of one parent to retain their
pre-existing custody, while taking away the custody of the other parent
without lawful basis.



CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A
DAILY BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NATIONAL
SECURITY AGENCY/CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY WIRETAPPING PROGRAM....

CPS Does not protect children...
It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and even
killed at the hands of Child Protective Services.

every parent should read this .pdf from
connecticut dcf watch...

http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf

http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com

Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the US
These numbers come from The National Center on
Child Abuse and Neglect in Washington. (NCCAN)
Recent numbers have increased significantly for CPS

*Perpetrators of Maltreatment*

Physical Abuse CPS 160, Parents 59
Sexual Abuse CPS 112, Parents 13
Neglect CPS 410, Parents 241
Medical Neglect CPS 14 Parents 12
Fatalities CPS 6.4, Parents 1.5

Imagine that, 6.4 children die at the hands of the very agencies that
are supposed to protect them and only 1.5 at the hands of parents per
100,000 children. CPS perpetrates more abuse, neglect, and sexual abuse
and kills more children then parents in the United States. If the
citizens of this country hold CPS to the same standards that they hold
parents too. No judge should ever put another child in the hands of ANY
government agency because CPS nationwide is guilty of more harm and
death than any human being combined. CPS nationwide is guilty of more
human rights violations and deaths of children then the homes from which
they were removed. When are the judges going to wake up and see that
they are sending children to their death and a life of abuse when
children are removed from safe homes based on the mere opinion of a
bunch of social workers.

BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF
REFORMING OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES
TAKE A STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEY
ARE "FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION...
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Old July 13th 07, 12:12 PM posted to alt.support.child-protective-services,alt.support.foster-parents,alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,alt.parenting.spanking
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Default Hamilton Cty IN NonCustodial Parents ClassAction Lawsuit....

Is this one of those states that uses the "Clear and Convincing"
standard Kane?
Or is this one of the states that use "Preponderance" as the burden of
proof?
What IS the ratio now anyway?

It won't be long now!


On Jul 10, 10:55 pm, "0:-]" wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:30:31 -0700, fx wrote:
Hamilton Cty IN NonCustodial Parents ClassAction Lawsuit


http://suehamiltoncounty.blogspot.co...been-happening...


Don't you wonder, as I do, fx, what support for the claim of
constitutional violation this blogger is basing her opinion on?

Surely, after 40 years or so, an actual case, that simply had a
removal in it would have surfaced?

All cases I see quoted are obviously rarified individual ones with
clear violations of AGENCY POLICY AND STATE LAW, that made it also
unconstitutional.

Oh well.

You really are just a mindless babbling mouthpiece for the
propagandists then, aren't you?



what has been happening in state family courts and CPS agencies is
strictly unconstitutional:


Likewise, the standard practices of child protective "services" are also
extremely violative in nature, very rarely comply with the parents'
Constitutional and Due Process rights to retain custody of their kids,
absent the pre-requisite clear and convincing finding of very serious
unfitness. There must be this, and an attorney, or it's all void.


The real truth, under the real law, and as consistently ruled by the
United States Supreme Court for nearly an entire century now, is that no
state agency, entity, or official - which includes a state family court
judge - may ever take away any parent's custody of their children,
without having first found, and only by "clear and convincing evidence",
that the parent is seriously unfit to parent the children in question -
i.e., what has been happening in state family courts and CPS agencies is
strictly unconstitutional: the taking away of any parents' pre-existing
child custody, without first proving serious parental unfitness by clear
and convincing evidence.


In other words, if a state family court judge has taken away your
pre-existing custody, in either a divorce, paternity, or CPS action,
without first finding, by serious evidence, of serious danger of child
abuse or neglect, then that order - no matter if it is a "temporary" or
"permanent" custody order - is unconstitutional, and is already legally
null and void. Such unlawful orders violate a parent's various
individual constitutional rights to due process, under the 1st, 4th,
5th, 9th, 10th and 14th Amendments, and, for divorce and paternity
custody disputes between the parents, is also violative as gender
discrimination, for upholding the right of one parent to retain their
pre-existing custody, while taking away the custody of the other parent
without lawful basis.


CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A
DAILY BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NATIONAL
SECURITY AGENCY/CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY WIRETAPPING PROGRAM....


CPS Does not protect children...
It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and even
killed at the hands of Child Protective Services.


every parent should read this .pdf from
connecticut dcf watch...


http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf


http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com


Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the US
These numbers come from The National Center on
Child Abuse and Neglect in Washington. (NCCAN)
Recent numbers have increased significantly for CPS


*Perpetrators of Maltreatment*


Physical Abuse CPS 160, Parents 59
Sexual Abuse CPS 112, Parents 13
Neglect CPS 410, Parents 241
Medical Neglect CPS 14 Parents 12
Fatalities CPS 6.4, Parents 1.5


Imagine that, 6.4 children die at the hands of the very agencies that
are supposed to protect them and only 1.5 at the hands of parents per
100,000 children. CPS perpetrates more abuse, neglect, and sexual abuse
and kills more children then parents in the United States. If the
citizens of this country hold CPS to the same standards that they hold
parents too. No judge should ever put another child in the hands of ANY
government agency because CPS nationwide is guilty of more harm and
death than any human being combined. CPS nationwide is guilty of more
human rights violations and deaths of children then the homes from which
they were removed. When are the judges going to wake up and see that
they are sending children to their death and a life of abuse when
children are removed from safe homes based on the mere opinion of a
bunch of social workers.


BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF
REFORMING OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES
TAKE A STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEY
ARE "FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION...- Hide quoted text -


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