Alec Baldwin Gives Parenting Lessons

Anyone who brings up politics in this matter
obviously already has a prediposition to hate
Baldwin and therefore can be ignored.

Oh I see, if this had been Bruce Willis instead of Baldwin, the left
wouldn't dream of bringing his politics into it? and if they did, they
should also be ignored?
yeah, right.

Way Back Jack wrote:

On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:48:59 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
wrote:

It's just not that big of a deal or that unusual among parents,
and trying to crucify him for it is the pot calling the kettle black.
Anyone with kids has said things like that.
Steve

This from the guy who has stated on many occasions that sexual
relations between consenting kids and adults do not harm the kids.
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Only because they don't. Of course, you're too stupid and brainwashed
ever to be able to discern that properly.
Steve

"R. Steve Walz" wrote in message
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Way Back Jack wrote:

On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:48:59 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
wrote:

It's just not that big of a deal or that unusual among parents,
and trying to crucify him for it is the pot calling the kettle black.
Anyone with kids has said things like that.

This from the guy who has stated on many occasions that sexual
relations between consenting kids and adults do not harm the kids.

Only because they don't. Of course, you're too stupid and brainwashed
ever to be able to discern that properly.

Whaaaaa? You can't possibly think that's true. How does a child consent to
something they know nothing about?

Tom Zielinski wrote:

"trotsky" wrote in message
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Tom Zielinski wrote:


Are you really defending Baldwin?


Here's my take: I don't defend what he said, I would never say something
like that to a kid in almost any circumstance. There are kids that are
complete beatoffs that deserve some amount of tongue lashing, but we have
no idea if this is the case here, nor do we *deserve* to know. What we
need to start doing is ascribing blame in order of importance: the fact
that Basinger would allow her kid to be humiliated publically by "leaking"
this tape is FAR worse than what Baldwin said, and the disgusting, filthy
pandering media publicizing it is far worse to.



I absolutely agree. Doesn't change the fact that Baldwin said the words.


A far cry from having Basinger as a mother is my guess. Would you want
Baldwin to tell you how to raise your kids? It's his business, not ours.


We didn't need to hear this just like we didn't need to know what was in
the package that Cho sent NBC.



I'm still pondering that. Perhaps it would have been best just to let the
FBI have the package. But I don't agree with those who say that covering
the shooting as a news story is wrong. Would it be better we not know?


It would be better if it wasn't a media circus giving incentive to the
next guy to "go out in a blaze of glory." They are encouraging that
behavior--what's good about that?


Again, I UNDERSTAND the frustration, but

to take it out on a 12 YO with such abusive language? I don't know
anyone who has ever called their own daughter a pig. It's wrong and it's
indefensible, no matter what she did or didn't do. Adults should know
better.

That said, I just got the boxed set of "Not Just the Best of the Larry
Sanders Show", the best written and funniest show in television history.
It includes a recent interview with Baldwin. Highly recommended. (The
Baldwin interview aside.)


Don't worry, that's on my radar. I loved "The Larry Sanders Show" when it
was on, and there aren't a lot of shows I can say that about.



Best written and funniest comedy in the history of television. Rip Torn is
a national treasure. (As my good friend Paul used to say whenever we
discussed the show in the 1990's.)


My favorite Artie line: Larry invites him to a party and says "Be there
or be square." Artie says, "I can be both."

I heard the WHOLE thing, of which the pig part is near the end. I
think Baldwin is a little over the top, but basically in the right.
After food, shelter, and security, a parent's #1 job is to teach a
child what behavior the pack will accept. My kids are are damn near
perfect in every way, but I have on occassion had to let them know
when they were acting like jerks.

The MAIN problem with this Baldwin situation is that NO PARENT SHOULD
EVER BE ALLOWED TO RESIDE MORE THAN 10 MINUTES AWAY FROM THEIR KIDS.
Divorce is no excuse. Act like a grown-up and recognize that your
lives are forever bonded by the children you created. A judge should
only be allowed to grant an exception in the case of demonstrable
danger from a sociopathic parent, where there would be orders of
protection and other restraining orders.

-Ron

"trotsky" wrote in message
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Tom Zielinski wrote:

That said, I just got the boxed set of "Not Just the Best of the Larry
Sanders Show", the best written and funniest show in television history.
It includes a recent interview with Baldwin. Highly recommended. (The
Baldwin interview aside.)


Don't worry, that's on my radar. I loved "The Larry Sanders Show" when
it was on, and there aren't a lot of shows I can say that about.



Best written and funniest comedy in the history of television. Rip Torn
is a national treasure. (As my good friend Paul used to say whenever we
discussed the show in the 1990's.)


My favorite Artie line: Larry invites him to a party and says "Be there or
be square." Artie says, "I can be both."


Larry, sharing with Artie that he is upset that Alec Baldwin (a guest on the
talk show) slept with his ex-wife while they were separated: "You were
right Artie. It was a mistake booking him on the show. All I do is picture
him ****ing my wife. And she's always on top."

Artie: "Lazy *******."

I love that show.

auzerais v wrote:

Anyone who brings up politics in this matter
obviously already has a prediposition to hate
Baldwin and therefore can be ignored.

Oh I see, if this had been Bruce Willis instead of Baldwin, the left
wouldn't dream of bringing his politics into it? and if they did, they
should also be ignored?
yeah, right.
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Difference is, honestly, Left politics are good, Right politics are
evidence of extreme evil, racism, sexism, antisexuality, greed, etc.
Steve

Victor Velazquez wrote:

"R. Steve Walz" wrote in message
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Way Back Jack wrote:

On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 19:48:59 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
wrote:

It's just not that big of a deal or that unusual among parents,
and trying to crucify him for it is the pot calling the kettle black.
Anyone with kids has said things like that.

This from the guy who has stated on many occasions that sexual
relations between consenting kids and adults do not harm the kids.

Only because they don't. Of course, you're too stupid and brainwashed
ever to be able to discern that properly.

Whaaaaa? You can't possibly think that's true. How does a child consent to
something they know nothing about?
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If you think that a child can consent WITHOUT knowing, or if you
think that all children know NOTHING ABOUT sex, then you really
are stupid. Lots of them know virtually EVERUTHING about sex,
especially the kids of people who are sexually liberal enough to
grasp the concept that kids may want sex too! I know that *I*
wanted it when I was 9, and many could even earlier.
Steve

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 20:54:45 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
wrote:


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Difference is, honestly, Left politics are good, Right politics are
evidence of extreme evil, racism, sexism, antisexuality, greed, etc.

said the ****head who wants the struggling working class to support
and pay reparations to the underclass, ne'er-do-wells, no-loads, and
other assorted bums. Meanwhile you enjoy a life of privilege derived
from sleazy business practices that bilked the working class: able to
send your wife and children to fat farms, swimming camp, tennis camp,
golf camp, music camp, and just plain summer camp in the borscht belt
of the Catskills. A limousine communist just like Baldwin.

Way Back Jack wrote:

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 20:54:45 -0700, "R. Steve Walz"
wrote:

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Difference is, honestly, Left politics are good, Right politics are
evidence of extreme evil, racism, sexism, antisexuality, greed, etc.

said the ****head who wants the struggling working class to support
and pay reparations to the underclass,
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No, the rich. By "rich" I mean everybody above, say, $80K per family
per year. These are the over-privileged who CAUSE the poverty of the
underclass with their rampant greed, and who impoverish further the
disadvantaged by investing in a second or third rental property to
amass a nest egg for a kushy retirement.


ne'er-do-wells, no-loads, and other assorted bums.
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When you finally pay them decently for their labor they won't be!
Presto!


Meanwhile you enjoy a life of privilege derived
from sleazy business practices that bilked the working class: able to
send your wife and children to fat farms, swimming camp, tennis camp,
golf camp, music camp, and just plain summer camp in the borscht belt
of the Catskills. A limousine communist just like Baldwin.
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I don't know where you get such ****, we never made more than $25K
each in our lives, and we don't now. We've NEVER been to camp of any
kind, except the local state park in a cheap tent. My wife went to
music camp a couple times as a teen, but was unable to afford it after
that, and HER father was a high school BAND DIRECTOR!! Her mother was
a secretary and housewife. None of us has ever seen the Catskills, and
I don't frankly even know where they are, even though I've heard of
them in movies and on TV.

So as you see, you're a ****-****ing deluded little lying racist
piece of ****.

As I said:
Difference is, honestly, Left politics are good, Right politics are
evidence of extreme evil, racism, sexism, antisexuality, greed, etc.
Steve