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"No fear" a police off. perspective on punishment
Book Description
In his eighteen years of service as a law enforcement officer, Detective Robert Surgenor has witnessed an alarming rise in defiance and a total lack of fear in Americas youth. In many of todays young people, there is no fear. No fear of consequences. No fear of authority. No fear of God. A generation without conscience. Interviewing hundreds of juvenile offenders and their families, Detective Surgenor discovered that the majority of violent juvenile offenders come from homes where there is no corporal punishment, or spanking. Surgenor advocates the use of corporal punishment, following the wisdom of King Solomon in Proverbs 29:15, The rod and reproof give wisdom, but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame. The book includes an appendix that lists each of the 50 states' laws regarding child abuse and parental authority. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Available on amazon.com Would you rather have your kids locked up? Remember the US is the largest incarcerator of souls in the WORLD. Hire an attorney, contact with CPS? Get the busy-bodies out of family life........ |
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What book is this? was "No fear" a police off. perspective onpunishment
What book is this, Fern? I'd like to read it, but I can hardly go to
amazon.com and say "Fern described this book about a police officer that has witnessed today's youth becoming more defiant." Or can I? Maybe you are so well known on amazon.com that this is all I need to do. I'll try it and let you know. Normally one would include the title, author, publisher, and if possible, the ISBN number. But maybe just the mention of your name "Fern" will allow me to order the book. LaVonne Fern5827 wrote: Book Description In his eighteen years of service as a law enforcement officer, Detective Robert Surgenor has witnessed an alarming rise in defiance and a total lack of fear in Americas youth. In many of todays young people, there is no fear. No fear of consequences. No fear of authority. No fear of God. A generation without conscience. Interviewing hundreds of juvenile offenders and their families, Detective Surgenor discovered that the majority of violent juvenile offenders come from homes where there is no corporal punishment, or spanking. Surgenor advocates the use of corporal punishment, following the wisdom of King Solomon in Proverbs 29:15, The rod and reproof give wisdom, but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame. The book includes an appendix that lists each of the 50 states' laws regarding child abuse and parental authority. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Available on amazon.com Would you rather have your kids locked up? Remember the US is the largest incarcerator of souls in the WORLD. Hire an attorney, contact with CPS? Get the busy-bodies out of family life........ |
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What book is this? was "No fear" a police off. perspective on punishment
She did post the name of the book it's called "No fear" Here is a link where
you can order it http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...08839?v=glance. Chris Dugan did a review on it a few years a go at http://www.geocities.com/cddugan/NoFear1.htm. I have read part of the book and he makes his point well though I think someone could misinterpret his message and use it as a excuse to abuse their children. "Carlson LaVonne" wrote in message ... What book is this, Fern? I'd like to read it, but I can hardly go to amazon.com and say "Fern described this book about a police officer that has witnessed today's youth becoming more defiant." Or can I? Maybe you are so well known on amazon.com that this is all I need to do. I'll try it and let you know. Normally one would include the title, author, publisher, and if possible, the ISBN number. But maybe just the mention of your name "Fern" will allow me to order the book. LaVonne Fern5827 wrote: Book Description In his eighteen years of service as a law enforcement officer, Detective Robert Surgenor has witnessed an alarming rise in defiance and a total lack of fear in Americas youth. In many of todays young people, there is no fear. No fear of consequences. No fear of authority. No fear of God. A generation without conscience. Interviewing hundreds of juvenile offenders and their families, Detective Surgenor discovered that the majority of violent juvenile offenders come from homes where there is no corporal punishment, or spanking. Surgenor advocates the use of corporal punishment, following the wisdom of King Solomon in Proverbs 29:15, The rod and reproof give wisdom, but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame. The book includes an appendix that lists each of the 50 states' laws regarding child abuse and parental authority. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Available on amazon.com Would you rather have your kids locked up? Remember the US is the largest incarcerator of souls in the WORLD. Hire an attorney, contact with CPS? Get the busy-bodies out of family life........ |
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What book is this? was "No fear" a police off. perspectiveon punishment
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004, billy f wrote: She did post the name of the book it's called "No fear" Here is a link where you can order it http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...08839?v=glance. Chris Dugan did a review on it a few years a go at http://www.geocities.com/cddugan/NoFear1.htm. I have read part of the book and he makes his point well though I think someone could misinterpret his message and use it as a excuse to abuse their children. Funy thing is Chris forgot to do the same statistical analysis for claims made by Straus. I'll take a shot at it soon. Doan |
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What book is this? was "No fear" a police off. perspective on punishment
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 17:49:58 -0600, Carlson LaVonne
wrote: Not a problem. His book has had a very insightful review by Chris Dugan on his website: http://www.geocities.com/cddugan/NoFear1.htm Read all the pages....... The good officer is something less than accurate.....of course, when looking at the product of the spanking compulsives one expects a good deal of that. What book is this, Fern? I'd like to read it, but I can hardly go to amazon.com and say "Fern described this book about a police officer that has witnessed today's youth becoming more defiant." Or can I? Maybe you are so well known on amazon.com that this is all I need to do. I'll try it and let you know. Normally one would include the title, author, publisher, and if possible, the ISBN number. But maybe just the mention of your name "Fern" will allow me to order the book. Amazon: http://tinyurl.com/3x5h9 Paperback: 256 pages ; Dimensions (in inches): 0.77 x 8.97 x 6.04 Publisher: Providence House Pub; (December 31, 1999) ISBN: 1577361598 Average Customer Review: Based on 9 reviews. Write a review. Amazon.com Sales Rank: 346,516 Hey, going to number 1 any day now.....E E E E E R R R R R O O O O O O............. LaVonne Fern5827 wrote: Book Description In his eighteen years of service as a law enforcement officer, Detective Robert Surgenor has witnessed an alarming rise in defiance and a total lack of fear in Americas youth. In many of todays young people, there is no fear. No fear of consequences. No fear of authority. No fear of God. A generation without conscience. Interviewing hundreds of juvenile offenders and their families, Detective Surgenor discovered that the majority of violent juvenile offenders come from homes where there is no corporal punishment, or spanking. Surgenor advocates the use of corporal punishment, following the wisdom of King Solomon in Proverbs 29:15, The rod and reproof give wisdom, but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame. Oh, you mean the Solomon that himself was not above sin, of a most egregious kind, and raised a son that himself was so cruel he had to flee his kingdom with the populous at this heels. You mean the Solomon that ordered his guard to cleave a child in two with a sword if neither mother would give up the child? Yeah, that towering font of wisdom. You have to read proverbs sometime, Portulacca. The book includes an appendix that lists each of the 50 states' laws regarding child abuse and parental authority. Our dear Flower forgot a little something and of course didn't cite Amazon with an URL....hehehehe Yah just gotta read the reviews....yo might even want to add your own. OTHER police officers? R R R ... and over the top, "Whoomp'em" advocates. Yep, that's our spanking compulsives allrighty. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Available on amazon.com Would you rather have your kids locked up? Remember the US is the largest incarcerator of souls in the WORLD. Hire an attorney, contact with CPS? Get the busy-bodies out of family life........ Oh yeah.....r r r r Kane |
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What book is this? was "No fear" a police off. perspective on punishment
Lavonne obviously CANNOT READ.
Apologize again, oh, carping, sniping woman. |
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What book is this? was "No fear" a police off. perspectiveon punishment
Beating the Devil.... By Murray Struas Publisher: Transaction Pub; 2nd edition (September 2001) ISBN: 0765807548 Average Customer Review: Based on 1 review by Chris Dugan. Amazon.com Sales Rank: 265,065 Going to be the next New York Times Best seller soon! ;-) Doan On 26 Feb 2004, Kane wrote: On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 17:49:58 -0600, Carlson LaVonne wrote: Not a problem. His book has had a very insightful review by Chris Dugan on his website: http://www.geocities.com/cddugan/NoFear1.htm Read all the pages....... The good officer is something less than accurate.....of course, when looking at the product of the spanking compulsives one expects a good deal of that. What book is this, Fern? I'd like to read it, but I can hardly go to amazon.com and say "Fern described this book about a police officer that has witnessed today's youth becoming more defiant." Or can I? Maybe you are so well known on amazon.com that this is all I need to do. I'll try it and let you know. Normally one would include the title, author, publisher, and if possible, the ISBN number. But maybe just the mention of your name "Fern" will allow me to order the book. Amazon: http://tinyurl.com/3x5h9 Paperback: 256 pages ; Dimensions (in inches): 0.77 x 8.97 x 6.04 Publisher: Providence House Pub; (December 31, 1999) ISBN: 1577361598 Average Customer Review: Based on 9 reviews. Write a review. Amazon.com Sales Rank: 346,516 Hey, going to number 1 any day now.....E E E E E R R R R R O O O O O O............. LaVonne Fern5827 wrote: Book Description In his eighteen years of service as a law enforcement officer, Detective Robert Surgenor has witnessed an alarming rise in defiance and a total lack of fear in Americas youth. In many of todays young people, there is no fear. No fear of consequences. No fear of authority. No fear of God. A generation without conscience. Interviewing hundreds of juvenile offenders and their families, Detective Surgenor discovered that the majority of violent juvenile offenders come from homes where there is no corporal punishment, or spanking. Surgenor advocates the use of corporal punishment, following the wisdom of King Solomon in Proverbs 29:15, The rod and reproof give wisdom, but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame. Oh, you mean the Solomon that himself was not above sin, of a most egregious kind, and raised a son that himself was so cruel he had to flee his kingdom with the populous at this heels. You mean the Solomon that ordered his guard to cleave a child in two with a sword if neither mother would give up the child? Yeah, that towering font of wisdom. You have to read proverbs sometime, Portulacca. The book includes an appendix that lists each of the 50 states' laws regarding child abuse and parental authority. Our dear Flower forgot a little something and of course didn't cite Amazon with an URL....hehehehe Yah just gotta read the reviews....yo might even want to add your own. OTHER police officers? R R R ... and over the top, "Whoomp'em" advocates. Yep, that's our spanking compulsives allrighty. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Available on amazon.com Would you rather have your kids locked up? Remember the US is the largest incarcerator of souls in the WORLD. Hire an attorney, contact with CPS? Get the busy-bodies out of family life........ Oh yeah.....r r r r Kane |
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What book is this? was "No fear" a police off. perspectiveon punishment
Billy,
Fern may have posted the title of the book, but it was not included her post below. One problem with the internet is that not everyone reads everything posted on a daily basis. If one wants to be understood, one needs to post the necessary references. I did not read her previous post, and there was no threaded link. I thank you for providing the title and the link. You supplied what Fern should have supplied in her post. LaVonne billy f wrote: She did post the name of the book it's called "No fear" Here is a link where you can order it http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...08839?v=glance. Chris Dugan did a review on it a few years a go at http://www.geocities.com/cddugan/NoFear1.htm. I have read part of the book and he makes his point well though I think someone could misinterpret his message and use it as a excuse to abuse their children. "Carlson LaVonne" wrote in message ... What book is this, Fern? I'd like to read it, but I can hardly go to amazon.com and say "Fern described this book about a police officer that has witnessed today's youth becoming more defiant." Or can I? Maybe you are so well known on amazon.com that this is all I need to do. I'll try it and let you know. Normally one would include the title, author, publisher, and if possible, the ISBN number. But maybe just the mention of your name "Fern" will allow me to order the book. LaVonne Fern5827 wrote: Book Description In his eighteen years of service as a law enforcement officer, Detective Robert Surgenor has witnessed an alarming rise in defiance and a total lack of fear in Americas youth. In many of todays young people, there is no fear. No fear of consequences. No fear of authority. No fear of God. A generation without conscience. Interviewing hundreds of juvenile offenders and their families, Detective Surgenor discovered that the majority of violent juvenile offenders come from homes where there is no corporal punishment, or spanking. Surgenor advocates the use of corporal punishment, following the wisdom of King Solomon in Proverbs 29:15, The rod and reproof give wisdom, but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame. The book includes an appendix that lists each of the 50 states' laws regarding child abuse and parental authority. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Available on amazon.com Would you rather have your kids locked up? Remember the US is the largest incarcerator of souls in the WORLD. Hire an attorney, contact with CPS? Get the busy-bodies out of family life........ |
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What book is this? was "No fear" a police off. perspectiveon punishment
Thanks, Kane. You and several others have supplied a title, and I now
have the book on order through Amazon. Unfortunately, in the post I read, Fern did not appear to give a title nor a clear author. She simply said the book could be ordered on Amazon. LaVonne Kane wrote: On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 17:49:58 -0600, Carlson LaVonne wrote: Not a problem. His book has had a very insightful review by Chris Dugan on his website: http://www.geocities.com/cddugan/NoFear1.htm Read all the pages....... The good officer is something less than accurate.....of course, when looking at the product of the spanking compulsives one expects a good deal of that. What book is this, Fern? I'd like to read it, but I can hardly go to amazon.com and say "Fern described this book about a police officer that has witnessed today's youth becoming more defiant." Or can I? Maybe you are so well known on amazon.com that this is all I need to do. I'll try it and let you know. Normally one would include the title, author, publisher, and if possible, the ISBN number. But maybe just the mention of your name "Fern" will allow me to order the book. Amazon: http://tinyurl.com/3x5h9 Paperback: 256 pages ; Dimensions (in inches): 0.77 x 8.97 x 6.04 Publisher: Providence House Pub; (December 31, 1999) ISBN: 1577361598 Average Customer Review: Based on 9 reviews. Write a review. Amazon.com Sales Rank: 346,516 Hey, going to number 1 any day now.....E E E E E R R R R R O O O O O O............. LaVonne Fern5827 wrote: Book Description In his eighteen years of service as a law enforcement officer, Detective Robert Surgenor has witnessed an alarming rise in defiance and a total lack of fear in Americas youth. In many of todays young people, there is no fear. No fear of consequences. No fear of authority. No fear of God. A generation without conscience. Interviewing hundreds of juvenile offenders and their families, Detective Surgenor discovered that the majority of violent juvenile offenders come from homes where there is no corporal punishment, or spanking. Surgenor advocates the use of corporal punishment, following the wisdom of King Solomon in Proverbs 29:15, The rod and reproof give wisdom, but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame. Oh, you mean the Solomon that himself was not above sin, of a most egregious kind, and raised a son that himself was so cruel he had to flee his kingdom with the populous at this heels. You mean the Solomon that ordered his guard to cleave a child in two with a sword if neither mother would give up the child? Yeah, that towering font of wisdom. You have to read proverbs sometime, Portulacca. The book includes an appendix that lists each of the 50 states' laws regarding child abuse and parental authority. Our dear Flower forgot a little something and of course didn't cite Amazon with an URL....hehehehe Yah just gotta read the reviews....yo might even want to add your own. OTHER police officers? R R R ... and over the top, "Whoomp'em" advocates. Yep, that's our spanking compulsives allrighty. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Available on amazon.com Would you rather have your kids locked up? Remember the US is the largest incarcerator of souls in the WORLD. Hire an attorney, contact with CPS? Get the busy-bodies out of family life........ Oh yeah.....r r r r Kane |
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What book is this? was "No fear" a police off. perspectiveon punishment
I can read, Fern, but I can only read what you post. Mindreading I do
not do. You gave a book description without an author or a title. You simply said the book could be ordered through amazon. How convenient that you snipped your entire post, as well as my response. LaVonne Fern5827 wrote: Lavonne obviously CANNOT READ. Apologize again, oh, carping, sniping woman. |
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