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Lisa Welchel promoting child abuse
In article t6dlb2tu45jffo4mm3ou20dqun744bpoij@usenet,
spank the parents wrote: The former Blair from Facts of Life, now a fundamentalist Christian, has some strange ideas about the facts of life herself. http://www.stoptherod.net/creativecorrection.html In this bizaare and abuse-filled book, former actress Lisa Whelchel calls children these cruel names: ankle-biter, pests, “a handful”, raucous, haphazard, messy, pesky, hyenas, arrogant, and “filled with schemes to do wrong. And she's absolutely right. That's exactly what they are. p.25 "I grew up in the South, where I was taught to reply, 'Yes, sir’' or 'Yes, ma’am’' when following instruction." Yeah, heaven forbid more kids do that. How terrible it would be for some of the little ****s to have some actual manners. p.27 "Disobedience comes in many forms, including whining." What's wrong with this statement? It's true. |
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Lisa Welchel promoting child abuse
I've always thought she was abusing those kids, right back to her
interviews about keeping them locked away at home, with no media; no TV, no radio, no magazines, no newspapers, and home schooling. Unless she keeps them chained to the butter churn, they're going to be ill prepared to go more than 100 yards from their insane father's house. |
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Lisa Welchel promoting child abuse
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Anim8rFSK wrote: I've always thought she was abusing those kids, right back to her interviews about keeping them locked away at home, with no media; no TV, no radio, no magazines, no newspapers, and home schooling. Unless she keeps them chained to the butter churn, they're going to be ill prepared to go more than 100 yards from their insane father's house. She's apparently a religious nutter but the idea that you're being abusive because you either don't think kids are just the sweetest things on earth or force them to behave in a courteous and respectful manner toward adults is ridiculous. |
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Lisa Welchel promoting child abuse
BTR1701 wrote:
Yeah, heaven forbid more kids do that. How terrible it would be for some of the little ****s to have some actual manners. ---------------------- You're just an abusive Fundy whore. We have found it is impossible to impose such coercion on adult humans. We will also find this impossible with children because it disrespects their right to their chosen form of expression and freedom of speech. p.27 "Disobedience comes in many forms, including whining." What's wrong with this statement? It's true. ---------------------- Again it dishonors children's right to their opinion and speech. If you don't respect them, then they will never respect you! Steve |
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Lisa Welchel promoting child abuse
BTR1701 wrote:
In article , Anim8rFSK wrote: I've always thought she was abusing those kids, right back to her interviews about keeping them locked away at home, with no media; no TV, no radio, no magazines, no newspapers, and home schooling. Unless she keeps them chained to the butter churn, they're going to be ill prepared to go more than 100 yards from their insane father's house. She's apparently a religious nutter but the idea that you're being abusive because you either don't think kids are just the sweetest things on earth or force them to behave in a courteous and respectful manner toward adults is ridiculous. ------------- Trying to abuse children and then require them to treat you nice is an idiot's errand, it doesn't work. You cannot command respect, you must EARN IT, and being kind to children makes them wish to treat you in a kind manner. Steve |
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Lisa Welchel promoting child abuse
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BTR1701 wrote: In article , Anim8rFSK wrote: I've always thought she was abusing those kids, right back to her interviews about keeping them locked away at home, with no media; no TV, no radio, no magazines, no newspapers, and home schooling. Unless she keeps them chained to the butter churn, they're going to be ill prepared to go more than 100 yards from their insane father's house. She's apparently a religious nutter but the idea that you're being abusive because you either don't think kids are just the sweetest things on earth or force them to behave in a courteous and respectful manner toward adults is ridiculous. Except neither of those things are why I think she's guilty of child abuse. |
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Lisa Welchel promoting child abuse
Once Upon A Time R. Steve Walz wrote:
If you truly want a toddler to steer clear of the street, cry and show them how terrified it made you. THAT makes the kind of impression on the child that you want to make, and with none of the fixated resentment that results from anger and hitting. Steve I'll bet you're a "therapist", aren't you? You probably make your living leeching off of the emotionally crippled. That's why you promote it. ** Captain Infinity |
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Lisa Welchel promoting child abuse
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"R. Steve Walz" wrote: BTR1701 wrote: Yeah, heaven forbid more kids do that. How terrible it would be for some of the little ****s to have some actual manners. ---------------------- You're just an abusive Fundy whore. We have found it is impossible to impose such coercion on adult humans. We will also find this impossible with children because it disrespects their right to their chosen form of expression and freedom of speech. p.27 "Disobedience comes in many forms, including whining." What's wrong with this statement? It's true. ---------------------- Again it dishonors children's right to their opinion and speech. If you don't respect them, then they will never respect you! Steve I was going to ask you to show any evidence you have that I'm a "Fundy", considering I've been openly atheist for several decades now... then I realized you're just an idiot, so why bother? |
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Lisa Welchel promoting child abuse
In article .com,
" wrote: BTR1701 wrote: In article t6dlb2tu45jffo4mm3ou20dqun744bpoij@usenet, spank the parents wrote: The former Blair from Facts of Life, now a fundamentalist Christian, has some strange ideas about the facts of life herself. http://www.stoptherod.net/creativecorrection.html In this bizaare and abuse-filled book, former actress Lisa Whelchel calls children these cruel names: ankle-biter, pests, "a handful", raucous, haphazard, messy, pesky, hyenas, arrogant, and "filled with schemes to do wrong. And she's absolutely right. That's exactly what they are. p.25 "I grew up in the South, where I was taught to reply, 'Yes, sir'' or 'Yes, ma'am'' when following instruction." Yeah, heaven forbid more kids do that. How terrible it would be for some of the little ****s to have some actual manners. p.27 "Disobedience comes in many forms, including whining." What's wrong with this statement? It's true. I haven't read Lisa Whelchel's book, but I visited the stoptherod web page. In some instances, I thought her disciplinary techniques were rather harsh, but unless she's hitting her kids hard enough to leave marks, I wouldn't consider her methods abusive. To put it another way, I don't see anything here that would warrant a visit from social services. If people want to advocate for abused children who cannot speak up for themselves, that's great. I'm all for it. But these folks should focus on children who truly are victims of abuse and who really need help, not kids whose parents happen to be strict or old-fashioned. And yes, I agree that kids should be taught good manners and that they should behave themselves. They also need to learn how to get along with others and how to delay gratification of needs/wants. Overall, I think today's kids receive too little discipline rather than too much discipline. I spent most of the day on a plane sitting in front of some brat who wouldn't stay still for 10 seconds and thought the height of excitement was to constantly slam his food tray up and down into the back of my seat (when he wasn't kicking it, that is). The mother, of course, was completely oblivious, even after I physically turned around and glared several times. Hell, she probably thought the little *******'s behavior was "cute" or something. Finally I'd had enough and stood up, leaned over the seat right in the kid's face and said in a loud and firm voice, "Stop that right now." And it worked. For the first time in his life, someone finally told the kid no. He was probably so stunned, he didn't know how to react. Of course, that finally roused the mother out of her stupor but rather than be mortified and embarrassed by her issue's behavior, as any right-thinking person would have been, she had the gall to chastise me for speaking to her child without her permission. I just laughed at her and said, "Lady, if you'd actually parent your kid, then total strangers wouldn't have to." That pretty much shut her up for good. |
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