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Would exwife being on SSI keep her from having to pay child support?
On Aug 27, 7:25 pm, "Gini" wrote:
Just to be clear from up above I stated how much I make and its very conservative. My point was more to point out that she WILL NOT work and would rather our tax dollars support her and whatever illigitment children she has. The point is to make do SOMETHING and not let her squeek by doing nothing. "whatamess" wrote .................. I love your quote "Her new baby baby is well supported by a father who has a job"...so, why is it that you don't do the same? hmmm... Do you not have a job? == Heh. Good point. The new baby's dad supports him/her well so she doesn't have to :-). Maybe that $25. a month this dad is after is worth all the begging and clawing after all. Gives me a headache just thinking about working so hard for that pittance. Bet those kids are damn impressed, too. |
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Would exwife being on SSI keep her from having to pay child support?
Why would you think that they are involved in this conversation in any
way? This is between the two of us and not the kids, come on. My kids have tons of great memories and have more everyday. Child support and great memories for my child have nothing to do with one another. As for her she can squirm all she wants, I won't loose sleep at all On Aug 28, 12:13 am, "teachrmama" wrote: "SingleDad" wrote in message ps.com... I am not trying to physically force her to be responsible, I am looking for her to honor our agreement and be financially responsible for her children. Why should I move on? Isn't my responsibility to get the most for my children? Do you really think that your responsibility is to "get the most" for your children? Or is it to provide them with a happy, peaceful childhood full of wonderful memories? Why put them in the middle of mom vs dad fight? She obviously has no intention of being cooperative. Do you think that the few dollars you may eventually get from her will be worth the upheaval and stress that the fight will cause? If it were the other way around I bet I would be pursued to the end of the earth to take financial responsibility for my children. You're right--you would. Which is equally sad. Far better NOT to be involved with such a system. Just because SSI is not included in her income, I don't see why that should negate the possibility of her paying child support. From what I understand FOC feels the same way. I feel that both me and my children are being taken advantage of yet again. I'm tired of her weaziling out of everything, at some point she needs to be held accountable. And she may never be. Some people manage to skate their entire lives. Don't let her untrustworthiness and lack of responsibility be a motivating factor in your life. Show your children how mature adults behave. If that means just walking away from her and letting her "weasle out" one more time, so be it. Your kids are far more important than your ex needing a lesson in responsibility. On Aug 27, 12:28 pm, "Gini" wrote: "SingleDad" wrote .................... So there she is working the government system trying to avoid responsibilities, living with her boyfriend, collecting SSI disability benefits, all the while being completely capable of working. Should I try and collect the child support and risk a BS fight with her and more grief. == No. SSI does not count as income for CS calculation. == .... is it even worth sending in my lawyer? == Absolutely not. == My goal is to make her be minimally responsible for the kids she has. == CS does not buy responsibility no matter how much money you can squeeze out of her which in this case is zero. Hold your head up and move on. Forget about her and enjoy your kids. See the entire thread: Michigan Child Support. == == |
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Would exwife being on SSI keep her from having to pay child support?
Hard to follow your reply, but someone above put it correctly. She is
stealing, and top of that she is violating a court order. I hardly feel sorry for her. Eventually the law will catch up to her and the eventual outcome will be YOU will be supporting her child with your tax dollars. I am merely clamping down and enforcing the order that I have already acquired. I'll be sure to follow up here with the results of the family referee. On Aug 28, 11:46 pm, whatamess wrote: On Aug 27, 11:32 pm, "Chris" wrote: "Gini" wrote in message news:94JAi.843$Eh5.793@trndny06... "whatamess" wrote .................. I love your quote "Her new baby baby is well supported by a father who has a job"...so, why is it that you don't do the same? hmmm... Do you not have a job? == Heh. Good point. The new baby's dad supports him/her well so she doesn't have to :-). Maybe that $25. a month this dad is after is worth all the begging and clawing after all. Gives me a headache just thinking about working so hard for that pittance. Bet those kids are damn impressed, too. NO one should have children that they are unable/unwilling to care for. That includes both mothers AND fathers. Also, NO one should steal! - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You are 100% correct...which means, NO WOMAN should be having children that she cannot FULLY support on her own...What that means is that don't give me the well the dad is 50% responsible, because even if daddy was with you, once he died, you WOULD have to support them fully...oh no, sorry, then you would make the tax payers do that for you as well... Same goes for men...if she were to die tomorrow, you would have to fully support them as well...so, stop trying to make excuses...If she lived with you, you would probably be fully supporting them ALL as well, so just move on with your life... |
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Would exwife being on SSI keep her from having to pay child support?
On Aug 27, 11:18 pm, "Gini" wrote:
"DB" wrote in message ... "SingleDad" wrote in When we divorced our marriage settlement stated that she got two years off from child support. Well two years have passed, and she got on SSI (for depression I think) so she could evade child support. Evading child support is a criminal offense, you don't have to do a dam thing but submit her dead beat name to the local DA and let the CSE do all the work! == Well, that would be if she had an order to pay. == And she does, the amount is what is up for argument here. |
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Would exwife being on SSI keep her from having to pay child support?
On Aug 28, 11:46 pm, whatamess wrote:
On Aug 27, 11:32 pm, "Chris" wrote: "Gini" wrote in message news:94JAi.843$Eh5.793@trndny06... "whatamess" wrote .................. I love your quote "Her new baby baby is well supported by a father who has a job"...so, why is it that you don't do the same? hmmm... Do you not have a job? == Heh. Good point. The new baby's dad supports him/her well so she doesn't have to :-). Maybe that $25. a month this dad is after is worth all the begging and clawing after all. Gives me a headache just thinking about working so hard for that pittance. Bet those kids are damn impressed, too. NO one should have children that they are unable/unwilling to care for. That includes both mothers AND fathers. Also, NO one should steal! - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You are 100% correct...which means, NO WOMAN should be having children that she cannot FULLY support on her own...What that means is that don't give me the well the dad is 50% responsible, because even if daddy was with you, once he died, you WOULD have to support them fully...oh no, sorry, then you would make the tax payers do that for you as well... Same goes for men...if she were to die tomorrow, you would have to fully support them as well...so, stop trying to make excuses...If she lived with you, you would probably be fully supporting them ALL as well, so just move on with your life... She didn't die she just felt like not taking care of her kids. You seem to be fighting really hard to see me move on, thats great but we still have to deal with her, you don't. Maybe you see the system as one set up for only women to get support but the real deal is many women are walking out on their children. There are probably hundreds of thousands of fathers who have to pick up the mess after a mother does something like that. Obviously she lost the kids because she was a danger. She still is a danger. I would love to see a day when she is either responsible and caring for her children or the day she just goes away. I hope for the first but I plan for the latter and the day I take her to court to have her parental rights terminated. If you really cared about your kids and wanted them to have a nice life you would use your visitation and not keep kids hanging, you would also pay child support and not fight doing so. I don't need her money but that doesn't mean the kids couldn't use it. |
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Would exwife being on SSI keep her from having to pay child support?
"SingleDad" wrote in message ps.com... On Aug 27, 11:18 pm, "Gini" wrote: "DB" wrote in message ... "SingleDad" wrote in When we divorced our marriage settlement stated that she got two years off from child support. Well two years have passed, and she got on SSI (for depression I think) so she could evade child support. Evading child support is a criminal offense, you don't have to do a dam thing but submit her dead beat name to the local DA and let the CSE do all the work! == Well, that would be if she had an order to pay. == And she does, the amount is what is up for argument here. == Well, then what amount does the order require her to pay? |
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Would exwife being on SSI keep her from having to pay child support?
On Aug 30, 1:47 pm, SingleDad wrote:
On Aug 28, 11:46 pm, whatamess wrote: On Aug 27, 11:32 pm, "Chris" wrote: "Gini" wrote in message news:94JAi.843$Eh5.793@trndny06... "whatamess" wrote .................. I love your quote "Her new baby baby is well supported by a father who has a job"...so, why is it that you don't do the same? hmmm... Do you not have a job? == Heh. Good point. The new baby's dad supports him/her well so she doesn't have to :-). Maybe that $25. a month this dad is after is worth all the begging and clawing after all. Gives me a headache just thinking about working so hard for that pittance. Bet those kids are damn impressed, too. NO one should have children that they are unable/unwilling to care for. That includes both mothers AND fathers. Also, NO one should steal! - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You are 100% correct...which means, NO WOMAN should be having children that she cannot FULLY support on her own...What that means is that don't give me the well the dad is 50% responsible, because even if daddy was with you, once he died, you WOULD have to support them fully...oh no, sorry, then you would make the tax payers do that for you as well... Same goes for men...if she were to die tomorrow, you would have to fully support them as well...so, stop trying to make excuses...If she lived with you, you would probably be fully supporting them ALL as well, so just move on with your life... She didn't die she just felt like not taking care of her kids. You seem to be fighting really hard to see me move on, thats great but we still have to deal with her, you don't. Maybe you see the system as one set up for only women to get support but the real deal is many women are walking out on their children. There are probably hundreds of thousands of fathers who have to pick up the mess after a mother does something like that. Obviously she lost the kids because she was a danger. She still is a danger. I would love to see a day when she is either responsible and caring for her children or the day she just goes away. I hope for the first but I plan for the latter and the day I take her to court to have her parental rights terminated. If you really cared about your kids and wanted them to have a nice life you would use your visitation and not keep kids hanging, you would also pay child support and not fight doing so. I don't need her money but that doesn't mean the kids couldn't use it.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I have to agree with single dad 100%. Are you guys saying these kids don't deserve financial support from both of their parents? It takes a lot of courage to step up to the plate and go through what the courts put you through to get what your kids rightfully deserve. He's also absolutely right that if it were vice versa he would be the terrible horrible dead beat dad that they would track across the country to get the child support. I too am tired of people who live off the state (my taxes), continue to have children and do nothing to better themselves. I say go for it and good luck. |
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Would exwife being on SSI keep her from having to pay child support?
wrote ........................... I have to agree with single dad 100%. Are you guys saying these kids don't deserve financial support from both of their parents? == Not at all. == It takes a lot of courage to step up to the plate and go through what the courts put you through to get what your kids rightfully deserve. == "Deserve?" The kids "deserve" to have immature parents duking it out in a courtroom over a few dollars?? == He's also absolutely right that if it were vice versa he would be the terrible horrible dead beat dad that they would track across the country to get the child support. I too am tired of people who live off the state (my taxes), continue to have children and do nothing to better themselves. == And, I'm equally tired of of people picking lousy partners to have children with and then whining about how much they "deserve" and using my tax dollars to tie up family courts for years to squeeze $25.-50. a month out of them to "make them responsible." The custodial parent was abysmally irresponsible in procreating with this woman and he now expects taxpayers to go after her because he can't manage his own family. He shouldn't have had kids he doesn't want to support. Period. == I say go for it and good luck. == Really? What a productive way to spend one's time and my tax dollars. Exactly, why would you "go for it?" To "teach her a lesson? To "make her accept responsibility?" Clue--the money isn't about "her" at all. And, the "award" for dozens of hours of hassles and court time will do nothing to help those kids-- And, it's MY taxes paying for this fiasco! I don't give a **** if he wants to teach her a lesson but I do give a **** that he's taking my money to play this silly game. |
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Would exwife being on SSI keep her from having to pay child support?
Huh? Do you really think that the abysmally few dollars he might be able to
wrest from her long after his children are grown and gone are going to be worth the stress being created to get those abysmally few dollars? She works part time at a fast food place, and can probably keep hopping around changing jobs for years to come. Meanwhile, he is spending time and money to go after her for money that he says he really doesn't want--he just wants her to sign off on the kids so his current wife can adopt them. wrote in message ups.com... On Aug 30, 1:47 pm, SingleDad wrote: On Aug 28, 11:46 pm, whatamess wrote: On Aug 27, 11:32 pm, "Chris" wrote: "Gini" wrote in message news:94JAi.843$Eh5.793@trndny06... "whatamess" wrote .................. I love your quote "Her new baby baby is well supported by a father who has a job"...so, why is it that you don't do the same? hmmm... Do you not have a job? == Heh. Good point. The new baby's dad supports him/her well so she doesn't have to :-). Maybe that $25. a month this dad is after is worth all the begging and clawing after all. Gives me a headache just thinking about working so hard for that pittance. Bet those kids are damn impressed, too. NO one should have children that they are unable/unwilling to care for. That includes both mothers AND fathers. Also, NO one should steal! - Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - You are 100% correct...which means, NO WOMAN should be having children that she cannot FULLY support on her own...What that means is that don't give me the well the dad is 50% responsible, because even if daddy was with you, once he died, you WOULD have to support them fully...oh no, sorry, then you would make the tax payers do that for you as well... Same goes for men...if she were to die tomorrow, you would have to fully support them as well...so, stop trying to make excuses...If she lived with you, you would probably be fully supporting them ALL as well, so just move on with your life... She didn't die she just felt like not taking care of her kids. You seem to be fighting really hard to see me move on, thats great but we still have to deal with her, you don't. Maybe you see the system as one set up for only women to get support but the real deal is many women are walking out on their children. There are probably hundreds of thousands of fathers who have to pick up the mess after a mother does something like that. Obviously she lost the kids because she was a danger. She still is a danger. I would love to see a day when she is either responsible and caring for her children or the day she just goes away. I hope for the first but I plan for the latter and the day I take her to court to have her parental rights terminated. If you really cared about your kids and wanted them to have a nice life you would use your visitation and not keep kids hanging, you would also pay child support and not fight doing so. I don't need her money but that doesn't mean the kids couldn't use it.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I have to agree with single dad 100%. Are you guys saying these kids don't deserve financial support from both of their parents? It takes a lot of courage to step up to the plate and go through what the courts put you through to get what your kids rightfully deserve. He's also absolutely right that if it were vice versa he would be the terrible horrible dead beat dad that they would track across the country to get the child support. I too am tired of people who live off the state (my taxes), continue to have children and do nothing to better themselves. I say go for it and good luck. |
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Would exwife being on SSI keep her from having to pay child support?
"teachrmama" wrote Huh? Do you really think that the abysmally few dollars he might be able to wrest from her long after his children are grown and gone are going to be worth the stress being created to get those abysmally few dollars? She works part time at a fast food place, and can probably keep hopping around changing jobs for years to come. Meanwhile, he is spending time and money to go after her for money that he says he really doesn't want--he just wants her to sign off on the kids so his current wife can adopt them. == And we're footing the bill. Sweet. == |
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