Milk, Money, & Madness

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:32:17 GMT, "Nina"
wrote:
i have bottles and some milk in the frezer in case i get hit by a car or
something, so the baby will have readily available food
i think its a bit extreme to have no other choices,though i too am intent on
giving my child breastmilk only

If you never leave the baby, there's no need for bottles or ebm. Some
mothers just don't ever leave their babies.
Marie

"Leslie" wrote in message
...
I got three different formula goody bags when I was in the hospital. It
wasn't a big deal to me. The one was labeled 'breastfeeding support kit'
or something like that, but had a can of formula in it. I just wanted the
free diaper bags to use for day care. There were some BF booklets that
were excerpts from the LLL book on breastfeeding (can't remember the
title) that I found helpful during the first few weeks. It had a handy
reference chart for causes of common problems.

And I, personally, wouldn't mind getting a free diaper bag . . . I could
even
put the formula to good use by mixing it with baby cereal or something.

BUT I am absolutely committed to bf. There is not a snowball's chance in
hell
that I am going to offer a bottle on a rough day. I don't even have any
bottles.

i have bottles and some milk in the frezer in case i get hit by a car or
something, so the baby will have readily available food
i think its a bit extreme to have no other choices,though i too am intent on
giving my child breastmilk only

i have bottles and some milk in the frezer in case i get hit by a car or
something, so the baby will have readily available food
i think its a bit extreme to have no other choices,though i too am intent on
giving my child breastmilk only

Well, my baby is nearly three so it's a moot point for me now, but if I had
been hit by a car when he was a newborn, I assume someone would have gone to
the store and bought bottles and formula (really, my sister would have bf him).
Unless you live in the absolute middle of nowhere I don't see the need to have
formula in the house, or bottles either if you don't do EBM.

Leslie

If you never leave the baby, there's no need for bottles or ebm. Some
mothers just don't ever leave their babies.

Exactly. I just never left William until he was able to go a few hours without
nursing. I didn't want to leave him. I wasn't tied down; I just took him
along.

Leslie

Marie wrote in message
If you never leave the baby, there's no need for bottles or ebm. Some
mothers just don't ever leave their babies.
Marie

It's a good thing you don't have any other children that can be hospitalized
at a moments notice like I do. Hospital rules are to not have siblings stay
the night with you. However, if it was a newborn and breastfeeding was still
1-2 hours, hopefully they would make an acception, but I couldn't count on
it and I would never leave the child in question in the hospital by herself.
Never leaving your child is just really unrealistic at least in my world.
--
Sue (mom to three girls)
I'm Just a Raggedy Ann in a Barbie Doll World...

"Marie" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:32:17 GMT, "Nina"
wrote:
i have bottles and some milk in the frezer in case i get hit by a car or
something, so the baby will have readily available food
i think its a bit extreme to have no other choices,though i too am intent
on
giving my child breastmilk only

If you never leave the baby, there's no need for bottles or ebm. Some
mothers just don't ever leave their babies.
Marie


That's unrealistic in a lot of cases. Especially after you have more than 1
child. If I take kid 2 to a doctor's appt, I'm not even allowed to bring
siblings into the waiting room. Base policy. There've been times when one
child was hospitalized and my husband was deployed. I couldn't have the
siblings with me then.

Marie wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 16:32:17 GMT, "Nina"
wrote:

i have bottles and some milk in the frezer in case i get hit by a car or
something, so the baby will have readily available food
i think its a bit extreme to have no other choices,though i too am intent on
giving my child breastmilk only


If you never leave the baby, there's no need for bottles or ebm. Some
mothers just don't ever leave their babies.
Marie


And some mothers (like me) would go stark raving mad if we could never
get a break from our children. YMMV.

Clisby

(Akuvikate) wrote in message . com...
DeliciousTruffles wrote in message ...
I just finished reading the book "Milk, Money, & Madness" and I wanted
to know if the bf'ing attitude has changed for the positive in the US
since the copy write date of 1995?

I was a very interesting book and a really good read. But, the book was
published after Clinton agreed to the WHO code, but just after. What
ever happened with the formula companies and the WHO code in the US?
Has Bush rescinded the agreement?

Just curious.

We're way, Way, WAY out of compliance. Just recently saw a Nestle
Goodstart ad on TV, and they all advertise like mad in the parenting
mags. Also just found out that several of the most popular hospitals
for giving birth around here give formula samples to the moms.
AAAAAAAHHHH!!!! You can be *damn* sure that this summer when I start
my pediatrics residency if I find myself in a hospital that gives
formula samples I will have something to say about it, loudly and
incessantly either until it changes or I give up in exhaustion.

Kate
and the Bug, June 8 2003


Kate,

Can you add something to your list if you don't mind? It drives me
BATTY that my pediatrician uses a notepad with a formula logo on it
when she gives notes or referrals to us. I'm sure that it was a
freebie, but it just bothers me that there is the subtle advertising
going on, seemingly sanctioned by pediatricians.

So, my request for you when you are doing your residency (and
eventually practicing), throw away all of the logo'd merchandise
hanging around the offices! Or, at least find out how to make half of
it breastfeeding advertising. It would have been great if that little
notepad had "Breast is Best" in the lower left corner, instead of the
Enfamil logo! :-)

m.

Kari wrote:

I agree for the most part. I DID get formula samples for my son
(4/99) but not for my baby this time. They never mentioned
bottlefeeding at *all* and in fact, assumes that everyone nurses at
first. (or so I was told) I guess this is not the norm? Im in upstate
NY by the way, and gave birth in Virginia to my older son, which may
be the difference in policies?

I'm in upstate NY as well, and the LC at the hospital where I gave birth
March 8, 2003 gave me a diaper bag with formula "just in case."

--
Belphoebe

In article , Belphoebe
wrote:

Kari wrote:

I agree for the most part. I DID get formula samples for my son
(4/99) but not for my baby this time. They never mentioned
bottlefeeding at *all* and in fact, assumes that everyone nurses at
first. (or so I was told) I guess this is not the norm? Im in upstate
NY by the way, and gave birth in Virginia to my older son, which may
be the difference in policies?

I'm in upstate NY as well, and the LC at the hospital where I gave birth
March 8, 2003 gave me a diaper bag with formula "just in case."

The LC!? Wow, that's pretty bad.

OOoooo I'm getting angry as I think about this phrase "Just in case."
It sets up someone who is on the edge to fail at breastfeeding. Why
don't they just learn the basics of helping a new mom learn to nurse?
DH was given the diaper bag with formula "just in case" by the
maternity nurse. Same one who called me a "nipple nazi" when I nursed
my DD round the clock and refused her offer of a bottle "so that the
baby will sleep and give you a break." It's a good thing she was right
about how determined I am or I surely would have failed.

--
Molly
http://www.sonic.net/~mollyf/