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  #101  
Old September 17th 09, 04:10 PM posted to alt.child-support
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You know nothing of me yet claim to know much.
You are a pathetic excuse for a human and a total waste of air and
skin.

Phil #3


At least I raised my kids to be productive members of society, that
makes me 1000 times more worthwhile than you. I claim to know what you
have posted here, nothing more nothing less but you paint the picture of
a lowlife with your posts.



You said one was a lawyer, therefore you are a liar. Come to think of it,
I doubt you even HAVE any children, being one yourself.

Phil #3


If that makes the reality of your situation easier for you to bear then go
ahead and believe that. How many semesters of college have you paid for?
Ohhh thats right, your ex wouldn't let you encourage your children to
educate themselves ..... what a shame, now instead of regular adults you
have a pair of lazy day laborers who have to compete with mexicans and
illegal immigrants for work. Do you know that a kid getting food stamps
could easily get a college education free? Not only free but he would
receive a stipend for expenses, of course you didn't know that because
your ex wife wouldn't let you read a book and educating your kids is not
your responsibility.


Still pretending to know all about a situation you actually know nothing
about, I see.
For your information (I'm sure you'll claim I'm lying but without basis yet
again) I begged my sons to go to college after they were old enough to
leave. I offered to fully support them if they'd go to college but the
mindset instilled by decades of living with a leech was more powerful.
Naturally, it's somehow my fault though, right?
Go ahead and pretend you know me, my ex and my kids. You only show your
prejudice and ignorance.
If you know me so well, what's my last name or any of the names or the
quantity or sex of my children?
What's my ex's name? How old are any of us (except the children whom I've
told the oldest is over 40?
Where did we live when married? Where does my ex live now?

You see, you don't know jack. You just like to pretend to "have it all
knowed up" and blame the father regardless. That my non-friend is sexism
which is nothing less than outright bigotry.

Phil #3

  #102  
Old September 17th 09, 04:13 PM posted to alt.child-support
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You know nothing of me yet claim to know much.
You are a pathetic excuse for a human and a total waste of air and skin.

Phil #3


At least I raised my kids to be productive members of society, that makes
me 1000 times more worthwhile than you.


You raised your kids ONLY because the mother/"child support" people
ALLOWED you to raise them. Individual worthiness has ZERO to do with it.

I claim to know what you have posted here, nothing more nothing less but
you paint the picture of a lowlife with your posts.



If XXX is male, he doesn't have a clue about how truly powerless he is as
regards the family or that the ONLY way a father can be a parent is by the
mother's permission. If female, she is simply hiding behind the built-in
sexism of the system.

Phil #3

  #103  
Old September 17th 09, 07:06 PM posted to alt.child-support
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You know nothing of me yet claim to know much.
You are a pathetic excuse for a human and a total waste of air and
skin.

Phil #3


At least I raised my kids to be productive members of society, that
makes me 1000 times more worthwhile than you.


You raised your kids ONLY because the mother/"child support" people
ALLOWED you to raise them. Individual worthiness has ZERO to do with it.

I claim to know what you have posted here, nothing more nothing less but
you paint the picture of a lowlife with your posts.



If XXX is male, he doesn't have a clue about how truly powerless he is as
regards the family or that the ONLY way a father can be a parent is by the
mother's permission. If female, she is simply hiding behind the built-in
sexism of the system.

Phil #3


The poster's proclamation is that if a woman kicks the father out of the
family, that he is somehow deserving of it. And also claims that if a man
does not mistreat the woman, then she will never give him the boot. If that
was the case, then there could be NO crime victims since all actions toward
another are deserving. It's no wonder such "child support" industry
perpetuates, with this type of thinking.



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Old September 17th 09, 11:55 PM posted to alt.child-support
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Apparently, I must have overlooked where he claimed that his children
had a male role model. Perhaps you might quote just what he said that
leads you to believe so.



He said .. "(raised by their mother who restriced my involvement)"
Look up restricted if you are still confused.



Since such restriction could be so much as allowing just ONE contact,
then technically you could deduce that they had a male role model. The
common understanding of a "role model", however, is one (especially
when it concerns a father figure) in which the student has continued,
uninhibited, regular contact; not some part time visitor.


It can be either, the boys usually decide who their role model is and
make it their business to be around him.



In spite of the mother not allowing it? You are too supid to live.


Especially in spite of the mother, you are just a huge ****ing liar. I had
role models that my mother was dead set against, I managed to hang out
with them and learn about smoking and drinking despite her best efforts. I
guess your next claim will be that you never disobeyed your mother or did
anything that she didn't approve first. More bull**** and deflection of
your responsibility. You are just stupid enough to believe your own
bull****. I guess thats how you get to sleep at night.


No? then when and to whom is he voicing his displeasure?



You mean that by voicing my displeasure to my GROWN children AFTER
custody ended somehow translates into continued involvement during their
childhood years?
Are you REALLY that stupid?
Phil #3


if the "kid" is 40, you've had 22 years to help them. In addition it is a
lie that their mother was able to keep them away from you after the age of
14, that is just another example of you lying to deny responsibility for
another failure. Do you wonder where your kids get it from?


Clearly, they get it from the father or some father figure because it is
IMPOSSIBLE to get it from the mother. Do I get my prize now?

Its okay to fail as long as you have a ready excuse. Do you wonder why you
are such a failure or do you really believe all of your excuses?


  #105  
Old September 17th 09, 11:58 PM posted to alt.child-support
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Apparently, I must have overlooked where he claimed that his children
had a male role model. Perhaps you might quote just what he said that
leads you to believe so.


He said .. "(raised by their mother who restriced my involvement)" Look
up restricted if you are still confused.

And showed his continued involvement with this "I've voiced my
displeasure with their actions"

If you've read his other posts you can see how he and his kids have a
decent relationship despite the efforts of his ex.


A CAREFUL review of my statements and yours will reveal that there is
absolutely NO relationship between the two.


Thats because you can't follow anything that doesn't agree with your
agenda. You've already made that obvious.


Such a ****-for-brains. My children are grown; the oldest being over 40.
During the time they were living with their mother, my contact was
restricted or eliminated by the mother. Since then, she cannot restrict
either them or me or our actions, therefore we see each other more than
we did then, however the damage had been accomplished WHILE LIVING WITH
THEIR MOTHER. You should stop attacking men and defending women you know
no better. You know absolutely none of the principals involved yet
pretend you know all there is to know about the case based on nothing
more than anti-male prejudice. I don't know where you're from but I can
say without a doubt they sure grow 'em stupid there.

Phil #3



I just think you are a lying irresponsible asshole,


Of course, I'm a man.

I have no interest in defending your welfare clan or putting down men.


Another lie.

I can see from your posting that you are just a whiny irresponsible liar
with an anger management problem and I would never give you the benefit of
the doubt.


In other words, I'm a man.


The fact that you must realize what I figured out in 30 or so posts from
you is what causes you to become hyper defensive and angry when I post
something that disagrees with your version of reality. In this case you
know that your lazy boobs didn't emulate their mother, just like every
other boy in the world they had a male role model(s) to emulate.


Gawd, can you be this stupid and still breathe?


Of course you have no responsibility for any of their failures, or even
your own for that matter, you are just a victim whining about how things
didn't go his way. Now you have middle aged blobs for sons who refuse to
accept any responsibility and are willing to live like housepets but NONE
of that has anything to do with you or your parenting. Let me sum up
everything you ever say about this subject .... BULL****.


Here again you indicate you know all about my personal situaion (without a
clue, I might add) and intimate that men are responsible for women's
behavior.


Only because the moment they acknowledge any responsibility on the part of
women, their entire argument comes crashing down.



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  #106  
Old September 18th 09, 03:53 PM posted to alt.child-support
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"Chris" wrote in message
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Chris wrote:



Apparently, I must have overlooked where he claimed that his children
had a male role model. Perhaps you might quote just what he said that
leads you to believe so.


He said .. "(raised by their mother who restriced my involvement)"
Look up restricted if you are still confused.

And showed his continued involvement with this "I've voiced my
displeasure with their actions"

If you've read his other posts you can see how he and his kids have a
decent relationship despite the efforts of his ex.


A CAREFUL review of my statements and yours will reveal that there is
absolutely NO relationship between the two.


Thats because you can't follow anything that doesn't agree with your
agenda. You've already made that obvious.


Such a ****-for-brains. My children are grown; the oldest being over
40. During the time they were living with their mother, my contact was
restricted or eliminated by the mother. Since then, she cannot restrict
either them or me or our actions, therefore we see each other more than
we did then, however the damage had been accomplished WHILE LIVING WITH
THEIR MOTHER. You should stop attacking men and defending women you
know no better. You know absolutely none of the principals involved yet
pretend you know all there is to know about the case based on nothing
more than anti-male prejudice. I don't know where you're from but I can
say without a doubt they sure grow 'em stupid there.

Phil #3



I just think you are a lying irresponsible asshole,


Of course, I'm a man.

I have no interest in defending your welfare clan or putting down men.


Another lie.

I can see from your posting that you are just a whiny irresponsible liar
with an anger management problem and I would never give you the benefit
of the doubt.


In other words, I'm a man.


The fact that you must realize what I figured out in 30 or so posts from
you is what causes you to become hyper defensive and angry when I post
something that disagrees with your version of reality. In this case you
know that your lazy boobs didn't emulate their mother, just like every
other boy in the world they had a male role model(s) to emulate.


Gawd, can you be this stupid and still breathe?


Of course you have no responsibility for any of their failures, or even
your own for that matter, you are just a victim whining about how things
didn't go his way. Now you have middle aged blobs for sons who refuse to
accept any responsibility and are willing to live like housepets but
NONE of that has anything to do with you or your parenting. Let me sum
up everything you ever say about this subject .... BULL****.


Here again you indicate you know all about my personal situaion (without
a clue, I might add) and intimate that men are responsible for women's
behavior.


Only because the moment they acknowledge any responsibility on the part of
women, their entire argument comes crashing down.


True. Accepting the results of women's behavior would mean an end to
abortion-as-birth control, "no-fault divorce" and all the other woman only
and pro-woman laws, rules and regulations.
Women would have to take a step backward away from social and legal
superiority.

Phil #3



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Old September 20th 09, 07:41 PM posted to alt.child-support
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Oh bloody hell. Who let you out of your cage again?


You keep posting the ridiculous bull**** and I'll stop in from time to
time and make fun of you. I know how much you hate to hear the truth
when it contradicts your whining, but someone has to do it.



Yup, with astounding regularity, you somehow manage to wedge both feet
into your mouth more often then anyone I've ever had the pleasure of not
meeting. Your ability to post some of the most inane, ridiculous,
incomprehensible crap anyone has ever put forth is truly incredible.

Though, I still can't help but wonder if you'll ever, through whatever
fluke of fate, somehow publish the truth AND back it up with factual,
verifiable data. But I'm not going to hold my breath, it may be a very
long wait before you get round to it.


Yet you have yet to show me where I am wrong. You just whine a little bit
more and talk about me rather than the subject of the thread. You tell me
what fact you want backed up and I'll back it up.


X, I want you to back up each and every claim you have ever made, are making
now, and will ever make in the future. I also want you to separate each
claim as fact or fiction (AKA your opinion). I want you to post sites, with
direct inks to each article, to prove your claim/statements.

The above has been requested of you in the past in various fashions, without
exception, you have not responded in kind by providing the requested link(s)
for independent verification. I myself have asked you to do so several
times. And I have also asked you to show me exactly where, by whom, and on
what date a given article was published at www.NYT.com that you've quoted
from and you've never provided that information.

Without providing the readers of the group with the ability to read the very
same information (AKA the EXACT SAME article) you read and are then quoting,
it is all but impossible to have a constructive debate on any subject with
you. Hence, you come off as a lair and a charlatan.

 




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