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Do you get an annual Flu Shot?

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Old April 22nd 08, 03:05 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,alt.support.breast-implant,misc.headlines,talk.politics.medicine
Herman Rubin
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Default Do you get an annual Flu Shot?

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Greegor wrote:
If the government and the vaccine injury fund are cloaks
to protect these companies from those liabilities,
hasn't this (legal shield) been a huge disservice to the
citizen public? =A0 Indirectly INVITING sloppy work
that normal liability concerns would have prevented..
Exempting them from concerns for liability seems insane.

There are adverse reactions one can get from flu
shots. =A0A weak allergy to eggs can suddenly become
a strong one to the flu shot, and there are other
adverse immune reactions. =A0The risks are sufficiently
great, and the profit sufficiently low, that without
these guarantees the flu shots would not be available.

But shouldn't the pharmaceutical company lose
any immunity when they defraud the FDA
to obtain drug approval, or cover up problems?

If they defraud the FDA, they can be prosecuted
for that. Likewise, if they cover up problems.
We are talking about vaccines only; the manufacturer
of VIOXX, or any of the other drugs of that type,
does not have such protection.

What are the limits to the immunities granted
to the pharmaceutical companies?

There are limits on vaccines. In my opinion, if
the drug company has been honest about the drug,
there should be immunities in any case. There is
no way that a drug manufacturer can even guess
that a chemical will increase the risk of cancer
10 years later, and by that time the drug becomes
generic in most cases.

Now there is considerable disagreement about the value
of flu shots, with arguments on both sides. =A0It is
necessary to balance the risks against the benefits,
and as benefiting from the flu vaccine is not the
same as taking it, the public health issue requires
the government to take a stand, and it has, recommending
the vaccines.

And of course government is wise, responsible and loves us. (sarc)

I assume none of these.

Would you be willing to manufacture something which,
if made ACCORDING TO SPECIFICATIONS, would subject
you to enormous lawsuits?

Who wrote specifications allowing all of the byproducts,
chemicals and preservatives?

The government.

Are they accepting RESPONSIBLITY?

To a considerable extent in the case of vaccines, yes.
Certain consequences are definitely covered. For other
consequences, one must make a good case. Our legislation,
and reasoning, for situations where one cannot ascertain
a definite single cause, is lacking. When there is
considerable randomness, which is the case, few people
are even thinking that way.

I can discuss the statistical problems involved, and I
definitely do not agree with the FDA's misuse of statistics.
They are aware of the problems of balancing risk against
benefits, but also do not seem to understand that in the
final analysis it should be the risk to the patient and
the benefits to the patient which need ot be considered.
This address is for information only. I do not claim that these views
are those of the Statistics Department or of Purdue University.
Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics, Purdue University
Phone: (765)494-6054 FAX: (765)494-0558

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