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Old July 15th 06, 01:05 AM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
tami
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Thanks Jo!
It's reassuring to hear that it's quite natural. Actually I wouldn't
mind him living on breastmilk for a longer time...it's just that i go
back to full time work in about two weeks (horror of horrors!)...i was
so sure that he'd be on solids by this time...so i've begun freezing
breastmilk...and i will keep trying, using suggestions from this
discussion.
take care!
tami

Notchalk wrote:
On 2006-07-13 19:42:39 +0800, "tami" said:

Hello, i am a concerned mother...i have been breastfeeding my baby
exclusively and he is about to turn a year old in about two weeks. the
thing is he still refuses solids. just putting a bit of applesauce or
avocado or rice on his lips makes him dry heave like he is so grossed
out that he wants to vomit. i am worried as his growth is quite slow.
he is about 69 cm (i admit we are short people in the family though).
has anyone had any similar situation?


Not to quite that extent, but my small 13 month old hardly eats solids
as well. He'll have a taste, and up to 10 teaspoons on a really good
day, but nothing like others his age. He could easily live on boob
alone with tastes of my food here and there.

On the usual charts, he's below the 3rd percentile, but on the new WHO
breastfed baby charts, he's on the 10th.

I've learnt not to worry and not to push it at all now, and it's
working. I trust that he knows what he wants/needs.

I have no other advice though, sorry!

Jo
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Old July 15th 06, 01:08 AM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
tami
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thanks for your response, anne!
yes, he mouths toys, not very often, though, just very selectively.
perhaps the metal window opener that he detaches when he opens the
window...or his shoe...yes, i think i will try teething
biscuits...perhaps those big solid things would be far more attractive
than mushy avocado and applesauce!
will keep you posted thanks again.

Anne Rogers wrote:
"tami" wrote in message
Hello, i am a concerned mother...i have been breastfeeding my baby
exclusively and he is about to turn a year old in about two weeks. the
thing is he still refuses solids. just putting a bit of applesauce or
avocado or rice on his lips makes him dry heave like he is so grossed
out that he wants to vomit. i am worried as his growth is quite slow.
he is about 69 cm (i admit we are short people in the family though).
has anyone had any similar situation?

does he "mouth" toys, most children of this age put everything in their
mouths, he he's not doing this I would see if you can assess other
developmental things to see if he has a delay

if he is mouthing is toys then just give him solid food that he can mouth
too, it might be that he just has no idea what you are waving this spoon at
him for and that if he can get used to tastes and the idea of eating he may
become more willing to be fed with a spoon. Both our children seemed to be
like this, started initially on finger foods, but learnt to be spoon fed
later, once they understood there was a reason for it and there was
something good on the end of the spoon!

Anne


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Old July 15th 06, 01:10 AM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
tami
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hi sue! yes, little pieces of banana and avodado that we put both on
the plate and on the (clean) surface of the table. but from what I've
read on this thread, obviously i need to give him a better variety like
cheerios and biscuits! will try that!
thanks

Sue wrote:
Do you give finger foods that he can pick up himself?
--
Sue (mom to three girls)

"tami" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hello, i am a concerned mother...i have been breastfeeding my baby
exclusively and he is about to turn a year old in about two weeks. the
thing is he still refuses solids. just putting a bit of applesauce or
avocado or rice on his lips makes him dry heave like he is so grossed
out that he wants to vomit. i am worried as his growth is quite slow.
he is about 69 cm (i admit we are short people in the family though).
has anyone had any similar situation?


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Old July 15th 06, 01:16 AM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
tami
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catherine,
oh wow, 5 years old!
i like what you are saying about his instinct.
definitely i will no longer put food on his lips...letting him handle
food will be my new motto!
i go back to work full time soon, so i guess just giving him lots of
opportunities to handle food on his own will be the best thing...cross
our fingers!
he likes the look of flowers, but isn' t really attracted to smells
yet. is there a special reason you asked?
tami

Catherine Woodgold wrote:
Some babies live on just breast milk longer than others.
Not to scare you, but I read a story in a newspaper about
a girl 5 years old who had to live on just breastmilk.
Her parents fed her with breastmilk donated from others --
it didn't say why the mother couldn't supply enough, but
just seemed to imply that mothers stop producing milk
when their baby gets a little older. She was allergic
to other foods. Anyway, I think going that long is
extremely rare, but I read about a 15 month old who was
just breastfed.

I wouldn't worry.

I wouldn't put food on his lips. I would let him
handle food, and eventually when he's ready he'll probably
start eating.

Maybe he instinctively senses that he tends to be allergic
and if he waits and has just breastmilk for now, he'll avoid
developing food allergies that can happen if you're
exposed to food to young (so I've heard anyway).

Does he enjoy smells, e.g. flowers, spices?

"tami" ) writes:
Hello, i am a concerned mother...i have been breastfeeding my baby
exclusively and he is about to turn a year old in about two weeks. the
thing is he still refuses solids. just putting a bit of applesauce or
avocado or rice on his lips makes him dry heave like he is so grossed
out that he wants to vomit. i am worried as his growth is quite slow.
he is about 69 cm (i admit we are short people in the family though).
has anyone had any similar situation?


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Old July 15th 06, 01:21 AM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
tami
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hi beth,
you seem to know quite a bit! am impressed particularly about your
mentioning sensory integration disorder, which i know nothing about.
my ped is inclined to not worry about my son's refusal, and says he
will eat solids when he is ready. however, the valuable advice i get
from this thread is obviously that i should go beyond the mushy food to
stuff like cheerios and biscuits since he likes to mouth more solid
stuff.
thanks!

Beth Kevles wrote:
Hi --

If I had a 1-year old who refused to eat ANY solids, who gagged at the
very thought, I think I'd discuss the matter with my pediatrician.
(This assumes that you've tried solids of various flavors and textures,
not just purees!) While many 1-year olds rely on breastmilk still, most
will enjoy at least the occasional bite or spoonful of one solid or
another.

Issues might be

- sensory integration disorder (which makes the baby hate
various textures), which can be helped with occupational therapy;
- food allergies or intolerances, which you can work with if you knw
about them;
- other stuff! which I know little about;
- or nothing at all, in which case your ped. will have helped by letting
you know that all you need to do is wait.

My two cents,
--Beth Kevles

http://web.mit.edu/kevles/www/nomilk.html -- a page for the milk-allergic
Disclaimer: Nothing in this message should be construed as medical
advice. Please consult with your own medical practicioner.

NOTE: No email is read at my MIT address. Use the AOL one if you would
like me to reply.


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Old July 15th 06, 01:25 AM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
tami
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hi CY, try this link:
http://www.who.int/childgrowth/standards/en/

CY wrote:
Do you have the link to the new WHO growth chart. A quick check of their
website gave me a lot of irrelevant results. Pretty please

Thank you!
"Notchalk" wrote in message
...
On 2006-07-13 19:42:39 +0800, "tami" said:

Hello, i am a concerned mother...i have been breastfeeding my baby
exclusively and he is about to turn a year old in about two weeks. the
thing is he still refuses solids. just putting a bit of applesauce or
avocado or rice on his lips makes him dry heave like he is so grossed
out that he wants to vomit. i am worried as his growth is quite slow.
he is about 69 cm (i admit we are short people in the family though).
has anyone had any similar situation?


Not to quite that extent, but my small 13 month old hardly eats solids as
well. He'll have a taste, and up to 10 teaspoons on a really good day,
but nothing like others his age. He could easily live on boob alone with
tastes of my food here and there.

On the usual charts, he's below the 3rd percentile, but on the new WHO
breastfed baby charts, he's on the 10th.

I've learnt not to worry and not to push it at all now, and it's working.
I trust that he knows what he wants/needs.

I have no other advice though, sorry!

Jo
--
Woman, Wife, Mother, Midwife


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Old July 15th 06, 05:36 AM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
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tami wrote:

hi sue! yes, little pieces of banana and avodado that we put both on
the plate and on the (clean) surface of the table.


I poured a bunch of Cheerios onto our not-
very-clean carpet for Rocky to learn to pick
up when he was 8 months old. Of course, you
have to have your comfort level...

Every child is different. Pillbug liked purees
and did not like solid solid foods until maybe
18 months. Rocky had purees for about two weeks
and that was it. After that, he would have
either food off my plate or he would nurse.

-- Anita --
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Old July 16th 06, 02:07 AM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
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Chookie ) writes:
(*) It is amazing how little is known about BM nutrients. We can't say that
it is proven that BM has all the necessary nutrients, because quite a lot of
them have never been studied!


On the contrary. The fact that there have been a few people
aged 15 months or 5 years who were alive and had consumed
only breastmilk proves that bm can contain all the nutrients
necessary for life. As far as I've heard, people consuming
only breastmilk tend to be healthy and not to show symptoms
of deficiency -- provided the mother is in good health and
consuming nutritious food.

I disagree with you about iron. Just to show the complexities
that can happen: people noticed that pregnant women tend to
have smaller red blood cells, and that if they take iron
supplements during pregnancy then the red blood cells increase
to normal non-pregnant size. So, they recommended that pregnant
women take iron supplements. Leter, it was discovered that the
larger (normal-sized) red blood cells don't easily fit through the
tiny blood vessels of the placenta, and that the babies had
smaller average birth weight. So they went back to not
recommending iron supplements during normal pregnancy if there
are no iron-deficiency symptoms.
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Old July 16th 06, 02:11 AM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
Catherine Woodgold
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"tami" ) writes:
he likes the look of flowers, but isn' t really attracted to smells
yet. is there a special reason you asked?


I was just thinking that smells and tastes are similar.
For example, if he hates almost all smells, that might
suggest you'd have to find really bland foods for him.
It doesn't sound as if that's the case. Or, getting
him interested in smells could be part of a process
of getting him used to food.
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Old July 16th 06, 08:40 AM posted to misc.kids.breastfeeding
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In article ,
(Catherine Woodgold) wrote:

Chookie ) writes:
(*) It is amazing how little is known about BM nutrients. We can't say
that it is proven that BM has all the necessary nutrients, because quite a lot
of them have never been studied!


On the contrary. The fact that there have been a few people
aged 15 months or 5 years who were alive and had consumed
only breastmilk proves that bm can contain all the nutrients
necessary for life.


Actually, we can't. For all we know, the five-year-old might well be the only
one who survived that long on BM alone, and the others who have tried it are
all dead. We've all heard about the 90-year-old who smokes like a chimney --
that doesn't mean smoking contributes to longevity.

And we have to find the 5yo first. I can't find any references on Pubmed to
this case, but picking the right keywords is tricky. Do you have a reference?

As far as I've heard, people consuming
only breastmilk tend to be healthy and not to show symptoms
of deficiency -- provided the mother is in good health and
consuming nutritious food.


As far as we can determine, it's "provided the mother is not starving".
Mothers who live on McDonald's and BF have all the right nutrients in the BM
too. Mothers in famine areas produce nutritionally inadequate BM. This is
important to know when faced with Ezzo material, which focuses on the
"quality" of the mother's milk in First-World situations where it is unlikely
to be at fault.

I disagree with you about iron.


I stated: "It does not contain adequate iron, but this is compensated for by
the baby's iron stores, which deplete some time after 6mo. And yes, the iron
in BM is easily assimilable, but at a year, the baby will almost certainly
require more iron than is available from his own stores or fom BM."

Which statement do you disagree with, and where is your evidence? Mine comes
from WHO literature reviews.

Just to show the complexities
that can happen: people noticed that pregnant women tend to
have smaller red blood cells, and that if they take iron
supplements during pregnancy then the red blood cells increase
to normal non-pregnant size. So, they recommended that pregnant
women take iron supplements. Leter, it was discovered that the
larger (normal-sized) red blood cells don't easily fit through the
tiny blood vessels of the placenta, and that the babies had
smaller average birth weight. So they went back to not
recommending iron supplements during normal pregnancy if there
are no iron-deficiency symptoms.


And how exactly is this related to my statements above?

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start out crisp, neat and tough, but you end up pale, limp and wrinkled."
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