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Old May 19th 10, 07:36 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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Swine flu vaccine caused deaths

18 May 2010

http://theforeigner.no/pages/news/sw...caused-deaths/

Ten people in Norway have died as a result of last year's mass vaccination
programme against the swine flu (Influenza A H1N1).

According to figures released by the Norwegian Medicines Agency (Statens
legemiddelverk), the Pandemrix vaccine also accounted for 801 reported
incidents of side-effects. Health authorities considered 201 of these cases
to be severe.

Amongst other symptoms, patients experienced severe allergic reactions and
cramps. But perhaps the most serious were those who suffered from
Guillain-Barré syndrome, causing gradual ascending paralysis up the legs. It
can also affect the arms and upper body, and at worst can paralyze the
breathing muscles.

The vaccine also affected pregnant women and children. There were 16
reported cases of abortions, fetal death, or stillbirth. And 58 children
were hospitalized for observation due to fainting, fever, fatigue, loss of
appetite, and dehydration.

Approximately two million people were vaccinated against swine flu last
year, and the agency says it's investigating every incident.


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Old May 20th 10, 02:12 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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john wrote:
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Well, the paper repeatedly referred to the flu as "swine flu," rather
than H1N1, the official name of the virus. In addition, the info was
translated from Norwegian by some second-rate newspaper trying to make
money selling ads. This has a very low reliability. For all we know, the
press release from the Norwegian Medicines Agency may have actually
released a press release just saying the deaths are under investigation.

The article doesn't explain why they found GBS in people who recieved
the vaccine in Norway, but none in people who got the vaccine outside
Norway. That makes me think the original press release was about
unverified reports, not proven side effects. That's a big difference.

Jeff
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Old May 20th 10, 02:56 AM posted to sci.med,misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health
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dr_jeff wrote:
john wrote:
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Well, the paper repeatedly referred to the flu as "swine flu," rather
than H1N1, the official name of the virus. In addition, the info was
translated from Norwegian by some second-rate newspaper trying to make
money selling ads. This has a very low reliability. For all we know, the
press release from the Norwegian Medicines Agency may have actually
released a press release just saying the deaths are under investigation.

The article doesn't explain why they found GBS in people who recieved
the vaccine in Norway, but none in people who got the vaccine outside
Norway. That makes me think the original press release was about
unverified reports, not proven side effects. That's a big difference.


One might also wonder how many people died of the flu itself, and how
many more might have died had 2 million people in Norway not been
vaccinated. H1N1, unlike seasonal flu, was hospitalizing and killing
otherwise healthy children and young adults, especially pregnant women.
Thousands of young people died in developed countries before the vaccine
became available in mid-autumn and the pandemic came to a fairly abrupt halt.
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Old May 20th 10, 05:17 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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dr_jeff wrote:
john wrote:
copyrighted material deleted

Well, the paper repeatedly referred to the flu as "swine flu," rather
than H1N1, the official name of the virus. In addition, the info was
translated from Norwegian by some second-rate newspaper trying to make
money selling ads. This has a very low reliability. For all we know, the
press release from the Norwegian Medicines Agency may have actually
released a press release just saying the deaths are under investigation.

The article doesn't explain why they found GBS in people who recieved
the vaccine in Norway, but none in people who got the vaccine outside
Norway. That makes me think the original press release was about
unverified reports, not proven side effects. That's a big difference.

Jeff


Actually, it appears that the article is a sexed up version of the
official report that did not find the vaccine to be causing deaths.

The Google translation (substandard quality of course) is available at:
http://translate.google.no/translate...__82456. aspx

The flu was not called either swine or H1N1 by the way.
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Old May 20th 10, 11:22 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids.health,sci.med
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Mike wrote:
dr_jeff wrote:
john wrote:
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Well, the paper repeatedly referred to the flu as "swine flu," rather
than H1N1, the official name of the virus. In addition, the info was
translated from Norwegian by some second-rate newspaper trying to make
money selling ads. This has a very low reliability. For all we know,
the press release from the Norwegian Medicines Agency may have
actually released a press release just saying the deaths are under
investigation.

The article doesn't explain why they found GBS in people who recieved
the vaccine in Norway, but none in people who got the vaccine outside
Norway. That makes me think the original press release was about
unverified reports, not proven side effects. That's a big difference.

Jeff


Actually, it appears that the article is a sexed up version of the
official report that did not find the vaccine to be causing deaths.

The Google translation (substandard quality of course) is available at:
http://translate.google.no/translate...__82456. aspx


The flu was not called either swine or H1N1 by the way.


According to the translation, a smaller portion of the reported events
in 2009 are deaths compared to 2008. And, according to the report, the
reported deaths are not related to the vaccines.

I think the CDC would be surprised to learn that the flu was not called
H1N1 influenza: www.flu.gov.

 




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