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Fulton DFCS official charged with felony child abuse: due in courtJuly 31 for arraignment on a felony charge of first degree child cruelty.
Fulton DFCS official charged with felony child abuse
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met...fcsarrest.html By KATHY JEFCOATS The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 06/20/07 One of Fulton County's top child welfare officials has been indicted on child abuse charges, Fayette County Superior Court records show. Cylenthia Clark, 38, of Atlanta, is due in court July 31 for arraignment on a felony charge of first degree child cruelty. She is assistant director of the Fulton Department of Family and Children's Services. The June 5 indictment alleges Clark beat her oldest child, an 8-year-old girl, 34 times with a leather belt after ordering her to strip to her underwear. Clark has denied being abusive but said she spanked the girl as punishment for fighting a teacher in an after-school program. Clark and her husband, Chicago natives, are divorcing and she was living in Fayetteville with their four daughters. After her arrest, the girls, 8, 6, 5, and 3, went back to live with their father. Clark returned to her job after bonding out of the Fayette jail but DFCS officials said she is doing administrative duties, not working with child protective cases. In May, a Fayette Juvenile Court judge granted Clark custody of her daughters after ruling the girls were deprived under the law. The hearing was closed to the public and a full explanation of what was meant by "deprived" was never given. CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A DAILY BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY/CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY WIRETAPPING PROGRAM.... CPS Does not protect children... It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and even killed at the hands of Child Protective Services. every parent should read this .pdf from connecticut dcf watch... http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the US These numbers come from The National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect in Washington. (NCCAN) Recent numbers have increased significantly for CPS *Perpetrators of Maltreatment* Physical Abuse CPS 160, Parents 59 Sexual Abuse CPS 112, Parents 13 Neglect CPS 410, Parents 241 Medical Neglect CPS 14 Parents 12 Fatalities CPS 6.4, Parents 1.5 Imagine that, 6.4 children die at the hands of the very agencies that are supposed to protect them and only 1.5 at the hands of parents per 100,000 children. CPS perpetrates more abuse, neglect, and sexual abuse and kills more children then parents in the United States. If the citizens of this country hold CPS to the same standards that they hold parents too. No judge should ever put another child in the hands of ANY government agency because CPS nationwide is guilty of more harm and death than any human being combined. CPS nationwide is guilty of more human rights violations and deaths of children then the homes from which they were removed. When are the judges going to wake up and see that they are sending children to their death and a life of abuse when children are removed from safe homes based on the mere opinion of a bunch of social workers. BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF REFORMING OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES TAKE A STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEY ARE "FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION... |
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Greg? Fulton DFCS official charged with felony child abuse:due in court July 31 for arraignment on a felony charge of first degreechild cruelty.
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:15:51 -0700, fx wrote: .... surly Greg, in all fairness, considering the other times he's spoken out for parents who beat and call it spanking, will come to the defense of this parent, won't he? Spanking is legal in Georgia - there is no 'limit' on the number of wacks, just the outcome. As long as the spanking causes no physical injury. I see no mention of injury, and her cronies gave her the rest of her kids back, so chances are she'll get a big -- NOT GUILTY on this spanking. Or could it be he has a double standard? Gosh, Greg, where's Fern when you need him, eh? 0:] Fulton DFCS official charged with felony child abuse http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met...fcsarrest.html By KATHY JEFCOATS The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 06/20/07 One of Fulton County's top child welfare officials has been indicted on child abuse charges, Fayette County Superior Court records show. Cylenthia Clark, 38, of Atlanta, is due in court July 31 for arraignment on a felony charge of first degree child cruelty. She is assistant director of the Fulton Department of Family and Children's Services. The June 5 indictment alleges Clark beat her oldest child, an 8-year-old girl, 34 times with a leather belt after ordering her to strip to her underwear. Clark has denied being abusive but said she spanked the girl as punishment for fighting a teacher in an after-school program. Clark and her husband, Chicago natives, are divorcing and she was living in Fayetteville with their four daughters. After her arrest, the girls, 8, 6, 5, and 3, went back to live with their father. Clark returned to her job after bonding out of the Fayette jail but DFCS officials said she is doing administrative duties, not working with child protective cases. In May, a Fayette Juvenile Court judge granted Clark custody of her daughters after ruling the girls were deprived under the law. The hearing was closed to the public and a full explanation of what was meant by "deprived" was never given. CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A DAILY BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY/CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY WIRETAPPING PROGRAM.... CPS Does not protect children... It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and even killed at the hands of Child Protective Services. every parent should read this .pdf from connecticut dcf watch... http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the US These numbers come from The National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect in Washington. (NCCAN) Recent numbers have increased significantly for CPS *Perpetrators of Maltreatment* Physical Abuse CPS 160, Parents 59 Sexual Abuse CPS 112, Parents 13 Neglect CPS 410, Parents 241 Medical Neglect CPS 14 Parents 12 Fatalities CPS 6.4, Parents 1.5 Imagine that, 6.4 children die at the hands of the very agencies that are supposed to protect them and only 1.5 at the hands of parents per 100,000 children. CPS perpetrates more abuse, neglect, and sexual abuse and kills more children then parents in the United States. If the citizens of this country hold CPS to the same standards that they hold parents too. No judge should ever put another child in the hands of ANY government agency because CPS nationwide is guilty of more harm and death than any human being combined. CPS nationwide is guilty of more human rights violations and deaths of children then the homes from which they were removed. When are the judges going to wake up and see that they are sending children to their death and a life of abuse when children are removed from safe homes based on the mere opinion of a bunch of social workers. BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF REFORMING OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES TAKE A STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEY ARE "FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION... -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Greg? Fulton DFCS official charged with felony child abuse:due in court July 31 for arraignment on a felony charge of first degree childcruelty.
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On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 06:28:23 -0400, Subway Groper wrote: 0:-] wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:15:51 -0700, fx wrote: .... surly Greg, in all fairness, considering the other times he's spoken out for parents who beat and call it spanking, will come to the defense of this parent, won't he? Spanking is legal in Georgia - Spanking is legal in all states. There is an interpretation in Minnesota statute the could be taken as limiting spanking, but you haven't made your point. there is no 'limit' on the number of wacks, just the outcome. As long as the spanking causes no physical injury. Same as everywhere. You think hitting a child with a leather belt won't leave injuries? I see no mention of injury, Lack of evidence does not prove the negative. She used a leather belt. 34 times, on a child in her underwear. What are the chances there were no injuries, do you think? It's impossible to say - but a physical injury would be like a broken bone, or laceration requiring stitches - brusing is quite legal -- it must be a REAL injury. and her cronies gave her the rest of her kids back, so chances are she'll get a big -- NOT GUILTY on this spanking. They did? "After her arrest, the girls, 8, 6, 5, and 3, went back to live with their father." It was a judge, not her cronies, and it was all the children, not "the rest." Apparently they were in more serious risks with the father. Don't be silly - she's an asst. Director, chances are she's barbequed with this judge. In any event, I'm sure they are on a 'first name' basis. "In May, a Fayette Juvenile Court judge granted Clark custody of her daughters after ruling the girls were deprived under the law. The hearing was closed to the public and a full explanation of what was meant by "deprived" was never given. And this is right up Greg's alley, for you see, he and his cronies like to argue that it's the Right of the Child not to be removed from abusive parents, least he or she not be there for the next adult parental temper tantrum. You're silly. You make stuff up and attribute it to folks. I've NEVER seen ANYONE here argue for a child to stay in an abusive situation. It's just that your definition of 'abuse' includes anything YOU feel is abuse. Yes folks have argued that children should not be removed for spanking - but then again, resonable folk [and legislatures in 50 states] don't see spanking as abuse. Your milage may vary. So Greg would cheer the return of these children, if he will speak up and express his usual bias on such matters. You know nothing of what Mr. Hanson would 'cheer'. Don't be so silly. lol But then, I wouldn't want to speak for him. Just urging him to speak for himself, like he just recently defended the murder of a child by taping a pacifier to it's mouth as 'not intended," but CRIMINALIZED by the system. I suggest you take your considerable obsession with Greg to email. I'm touched at how sentimental, when it comes to murderous, incestuous, raging parents our pet group "parent and child loving," darling can be. This article isn't about what your daddy did to you boy, it's about a lady that spanked her kid. You really should seek help for your problem. Good luck. 0:] Or could it be he has a double standard? Gosh, Greg, where's Fern when you need him, eh? 0:] Fulton DFCS official charged with felony child abuse http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met...fcsarrest.html By KATHY JEFCOATS The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 06/20/07 One of Fulton County's top child welfare officials has been indicted on child abuse charges, Fayette County Superior Court records show. Cylenthia Clark, 38, of Atlanta, is due in court July 31 for arraignment on a felony charge of first degree child cruelty. She is assistant director of the Fulton Department of Family and Children's Services. The June 5 indictment alleges Clark beat her oldest child, an 8-year-old girl, 34 times with a leather belt after ordering her to strip to her underwear. Clark has denied being abusive but said she spanked the girl as punishment for fighting a teacher in an after-school program. Clark and her husband, Chicago natives, are divorcing and she was living in Fayetteville with their four daughters. After her arrest, the girls, 8, 6, 5, and 3, went back to live with their father. Clark returned to her job after bonding out of the Fayette jail but DFCS officials said she is doing administrative duties, not working with child protective cases. In May, a Fayette Juvenile Court judge granted Clark custody of her daughters after ruling the girls were deprived under the law. The hearing was closed to the public and a full explanation of what was meant by "deprived" was never given. CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A DAILY BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY/CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY WIRETAPPING PROGRAM.... CPS Does not protect children... It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and even killed at the hands of Child Protective Services. every parent should read this .pdf from connecticut dcf watch... http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the US These numbers come from The National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect in Washington. (NCCAN) Recent numbers have increased significantly for CPS *Perpetrators of Maltreatment* Physical Abuse CPS 160, Parents 59 Sexual Abuse CPS 112, Parents 13 Neglect CPS 410, Parents 241 Medical Neglect CPS 14 Parents 12 Fatalities CPS 6.4, Parents 1.5 Imagine that, 6.4 children die at the hands of the very agencies that are supposed to protect them and only 1.5 at the hands of parents per 100,000 children. CPS perpetrates more abuse, neglect, and sexual abuse and kills more children then parents in the United States. If the citizens of this country hold CPS to the same standards that they hold parents too. No judge should ever put another child in the hands of ANY government agency because CPS nationwide is guilty of more harm and death than any human being combined. CPS nationwide is guilty of more human rights violations and deaths of children then the homes from which they were removed. When are the judges going to wake up and see that they are sending children to their death and a life of abuse when children are removed from safe homes based on the mere opinion of a bunch of social workers. BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF REFORMING OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES TAKE A STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEY ARE "FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION... -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Greg? Fulton DFCS official charged with felony child abuse: due in court July 31 for arraignment on a felony charge of first degree child cruelty.
On Jun 21, 9:12 am, Subway Groper wrote:
0:-] wrote: On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 06:28:23 -0400, Subway Groper wrote: 0:-] wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:15:51 -0700, fx wrote: .... surly Greg, in all fairness, considering the other times he's spoken out for parents who beat and call it spanking, will come to the defense of this parent, won't he? Spanking is legal in Georgia - Spanking is legal in all states. There is an interpretation in Minnesota statute the could be taken as limiting spanking, but you haven't made your point. there is no 'limit' on the number of wacks, just the outcome. As long as the spanking causes no physical injury. Same as everywhere. You think hitting a child with a leather belt won't leave injuries? I see no mention of injury, Lack of evidence does not prove the negative. She used a leather belt. 34 times, on a child in her underwear. What are the chances there were no injuries, do you think? It's impossible to say - but a physical injury would be like a broken bone, or laceration requiring stitches - brusing is quite legal -- it must be a REAL injury. and her cronies gave her the rest of her kids back, so chances are she'll get a big -- NOT GUILTY on this spanking. They did? "After her arrest, the girls, 8, 6, 5, and 3, went back to live with their father." It was a judge, not her cronies, and it was all the children, not "the rest." Apparently they were in more serious risks with the father. Don't be silly - she's an asst. Director, chances are she's barbequed with this judge. In any event, I'm sure they are on a 'first name' basis. "In May, a Fayette Juvenile Court judge granted Clark custody of her daughters after ruling the girls were deprived under the law. The hearing was closed to the public and a full explanation of what was meant by "deprived" was never given. And this is right up Greg's alley, for you see, he and his cronies like to argue that it's the Right of the Child not to be removed from abusive parents, least he or she not be there for the next adult parental temper tantrum. You're silly. You make stuff up and attribute it to folks. I've NEVER seen ANYONE here argue for a child to stay in an abusive situation. It's just that your definition of 'abuse' includes anything YOU feel is abuse. Yes folks have argued that children should not be removed for spanking - but then again, resonable folk [and legislatures in 50 states] don't see spanking as abuse. Your milage may vary. So Greg would cheer the return of these children, if he will speak up and express his usual bias on such matters. You know nothing of what Mr. Hanson would 'cheer'. Don't be so silly. lol But then, I wouldn't want to speak for him. Just urging him to speak for himself, like he just recently defended the murder of a child by taping a pacifier to it's mouth as 'not intended," but CRIMINALIZED by the system. I suggest you take your considerable obsession with Greg to email. I'm touched at how sentimental, when it comes to murderous, incestuous, raging parents our pet group "parent and child loving," darling can be. This article isn't about what your daddy did to you boy, it's about a lady that spanked her kid. You really should seek help for your problem. Good luck. 0:] Or could it be he has a double standard? Gosh, Greg, where's Fern when you need him, eh? 0:] Fulton DFCS official charged with felony child abuse http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met...2007/06/20/062... By KATHY JEFCOATS The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 06/20/07 One of Fulton County's top child welfare officials has been indicted on child abuse charges, Fayette County Superior Court records show. Cylenthia Clark, 38, of Atlanta, is due in court July 31 for arraignment on a felony charge of first degree child cruelty. She is assistant director of the Fulton Department of Family and Children's Services. The June 5 indictment alleges Clark beat her oldest child, an 8-year-old girl, 34 times with a leather belt after ordering her to strip to her underwear. Clark has denied being abusive but said she spanked the girl as punishment for fighting a teacher in an after-school program. Clark and her husband, Chicago natives, are divorcing and she was living in Fayetteville with their four daughters. After her arrest, the girls, 8, 6, 5, and 3, went back to live with their father. Clark returned to her job after bonding out of the Fayette jail but DFCS officials said she is doing administrative duties, not working with child protective cases. In May, a Fayette Juvenile Court judge granted Clark custody of her daughters after ruling the girls were deprived under the law. The hearing was closed to the public and a full explanation of what was meant by "deprived" was never given. CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A DAILY BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY/CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY WIRETAPPING PROGRAM.... CPS Does not protect children... It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and even killed at the hands of Child Protective Services. every parent should read this .pdf from connecticut dcf watch... http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the US These numbers come from The National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect in Washington. (NCCAN) Recent numbers have increased significantly for CPS *Perpetrators of Maltreatment* Physical Abuse CPS 160, Parents 59 Sexual Abuse CPS 112, Parents 13 Neglect CPS 410, Parents 241 Medical Neglect CPS 14 Parents 12 Fatalities CPS 6.4, Parents 1.5 Imagine that, 6.4 children die at the hands of the very agencies that are supposed to protect them and only 1.5 at the hands of parents per 100,000 children. CPS perpetrates more abuse, neglect, and sexual abuse and kills more children then parents in the United States. If the citizens of this country hold CPS to the same standards that they hold parents too. No judge should ever put another child in the hands of ANY government agency because CPS nationwide is guilty of more harm and death than any human being combined. CPS nationwide is guilty of more human rights violations and deaths of children then the homes from which they were removed. When are the judges going to wake up and see that they are sending children to their death and a life of abuse when children are removed from safe homes based on the mere opinion of a bunch of social workers. BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF REFORMING OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES TAKE A STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEY ARE "FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION... -- Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com Ah, right. And we are supposed to take anything serious from a poster who calls himself Subway Groper? Throw yourself on the 3rd rail at once!!!! Firemonkey |
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Greg? Fulton DFCS official charged with felony child abuse:due in court July 31 for arraignment on a felony charge of first degree childcruelty.
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On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:12:39 -0400, Subway Groper wrote: 0:-] wrote: On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 06:28:23 -0400, Subway Groper wrote: 0:-] wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:15:51 -0700, fx wrote: .... surly Greg, in all fairness, considering the other times he's spoken out for parents who beat and call it spanking, will come to the defense of this parent, won't he? Spanking is legal in Georgia - Spanking is legal in all states. There is an interpretation in Minnesota statute the could be taken as limiting spanking, but you haven't made your point. there is no 'limit' on the number of wacks, just the outcome. As long as the spanking causes no physical injury. Same as everywhere. You think hitting a child with a leather belt won't leave injuries? I see no mention of injury, Lack of evidence does not prove the negative. She used a leather belt. 34 times, on a child in her underwear. What are the chances there were no injuries, do you think? It's impossible to say - but a physical injury would be like a broken bone, or laceration requiring stitches - brusing is quite legal -- it must be a REAL injury. Tell you what, ask two professions if bruising is an "injury." A judge, and a doctor. No need to - GA statutes specifically allow brusing. See what they tell you. and her cronies gave her the rest of her kids back, so chances are she'll get a big -- NOT GUILTY on this spanking. They did? "After her arrest, the girls, 8, 6, 5, and 3, went back to live with their father." It was a judge, not her cronies, and it was all the children, not "the rest." Apparently they were in more serious risks with the father. Don't be silly - she's an asst. Director, chances are she's barbequed with this judge. In any event, I'm sure they are on a 'first name' basis. Chances are she and the judge are not buddies, but I'm NOT sure. How come you are? Cause I never met even a caseworker who wasn't on first name basis with Family Court judge. This spanker was an asst. director. "In May, a Fayette Juvenile Court judge granted Clark custody of her daughters after ruling the girls were deprived under the law. The hearing was closed to the public and a full explanation of what was meant by "deprived" was never given. And this is right up Greg's alley, for you see, he and his cronies like to argue that it's the Right of the Child not to be removed from abusive parents, least he or she not be there for the next adult parental temper tantrum. You're silly. Not usually on matters of someone beating a child with a belt. You make stuff up and attribute it to folks. Nope. You are confusing me with Greg and Ken. I've NEVER seen ANYONE here argue for a child to stay in an abusive situation. You are discussing Greg? On the contrary. You need to read his posts, and if you have already, you are obviously delusional. Like I said, it's useless because you define abuse as anything you don't like -- you've already made it clear hundreds of times a month, thousands of times a year for 5-6 years now that you believe Greg abused his stepchild -- You've even gone as far as to falsely accuse him of raping children. It's your sick obsession that is obviously delusional -- that and the fact you imagine yourself to be 'above' all others. It's just that your definition of 'abuse' includes anything YOU feel is abuse. Well, he just defended someone against their "unintended outcome" that resulted in the death of a child by asphyxiation from a taped on pacifier. He's defended another poster that was concerned entirely for the constitutional rights of the perp that WILLINGLY ADMITTED HE'D BEATEN CHILDREN AS HAD HIS CONGREGATION AND THEY WERE GOIGN TO CONTINUE, DESPITE STATUTES TO THE CONTRARY. That poster never ONCE mentioned the plight of the children and THEIR rights, and this poster, Greg, has the same record. Don't be silly. Greg cares a great deal for the children -- it shows through in his posts. You on the other hand use the children and their misfortune to attack parents -- your main concern seems to be that 'those evil parents get what they deserve'. Don, what you did with that website proves how you think of the children. Pork sausage. Stuff. Just more stuff for Don to use and manipulate for his own sick pleasure. Yes folks have argued that children should not be removed for spanking - We are not discussing "spanking," here. You are being disingenuous...lying, in fact. You are obviously mentally ill -- bye now. They have argued "children should not be removed," when the issue was clearly, even by the perps own admission, they had beaten their children. but then again, resonable folk [and legislatures in 50 states] don't see spanking as abuse. Your milage may vary. I see spanking as abuse. I do not confuse spanking with beating, however. I'm quite aware of the laws on this issue. If you check the posting history in both ascps, and aps, you will see exactly what I claim. An attempt to put words in the mouths of anti spankers, claiming they said "spanking is beating," when no such claim was made, and discussion of "spanking" and parent's rights to do so, when even judges that had to rule in the parent's favor in such cases were saddened they had to rule as they did because in fact the "spanking" was clearly a beating. So Greg would cheer the return of these children, if he will speak up and express his usual bias on such matters. You know nothing of what Mr. Hanson would 'cheer'. Don't be so silly. lol Of course I do. He has a posting record of doing precisely that. So does anyone else that's read his nonsense blathering. But then, I wouldn't want to speak for him. Just urging him to speak for himself, like he just recently defended the murder of a child by taping a pacifier to it's mouth as 'not intended," but CRIMINALIZED by the system. I suggest you take your considerable obsession with Greg to email. If you paid closer attention to reality you'd see that he discusses child protection. That IS the group I'm posting from. Hence I'm quite likely to respond to him. You seem to have failed to note he responds to just about every new thread I begin. Hence, you are either deliberately ignorant, or you are lying. I'm touched at how sentimental, when it comes to murderous, incestuous, raging parents our pet group "parent and child loving," darling can be. This article isn't about what your daddy did to you boy, Mac, you need to stop and think. it's about a lady that spanked her kid. And 8 year old girl, in her undies, 34 times with a belt. You really should seek help for your problem. You know someone that can educate Greg when I can't? Good luck. Yes, I'd need it, if I really though I could change Greg Hansen, or his silly sock wearing buddies. He has persistently ignored the plight of children with YALPs who do considerably more to them than a "spanking," Mac. And he lies continually. As you do, and have since your first post to this newsgroup, Mac. 0:] 0:] Or could it be he has a double standard? Gosh, Greg, where's Fern when you need him, eh? 0:] Fulton DFCS official charged with felony child abuse http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met...fcsarrest.html By KATHY JEFCOATS The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 06/20/07 One of Fulton County's top child welfare officials has been indicted on child abuse charges, Fayette County Superior Court records show. Cylenthia Clark, 38, of Atlanta, is due in court July 31 for arraignment on a felony charge of first degree child cruelty. She is assistant director of the Fulton Department of Family and Children's Services. The June 5 indictment alleges Clark beat her oldest child, an 8-year-old girl, 34 times with a leather belt after ordering her to strip to her underwear. Clark has denied being abusive but said she spanked the girl as punishment for fighting a teacher in an after-school program. Clark and her husband, Chicago natives, are divorcing and she was living in Fayetteville with their four daughters. After her arrest, the girls, 8, 6, 5, and 3, went back to live with their father. Clark returned to her job after bonding out of the Fayette jail but DFCS officials said she is doing administrative duties, not working with child protective cases. In May, a Fayette Juvenile Court judge granted Clark custody of her daughters after ruling the girls were deprived under the law. The hearing was closed to the public and a full explanation of what was meant by "deprived" was never given. CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A DAILY BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY/CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY WIRETAPPING PROGRAM.... CPS Does not protect children... It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and even killed at the hands of Child Protective Services. every parent should read this .pdf from connecticut dcf watch... http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com Number of Cases per 100,000 children in the US These numbers come from The National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect in Washington. (NCCAN) Recent numbers have increased significantly for CPS *Perpetrators of Maltreatment* Physical Abuse CPS 160, Parents 59 Sexual Abuse CPS 112, Parents 13 Neglect CPS 410, Parents 241 Medical Neglect CPS 14 Parents 12 Fatalities CPS 6.4, Parents 1.5 Imagine that, 6.4 children die at the hands of the very agencies that are supposed to protect them and only 1.5 at the hands of parents per 100,000 children. CPS perpetrates more abuse, neglect, and sexual abuse and kills more children then parents in the United States. If the citizens of this country hold CPS to the same standards that they hold parents too. No judge should ever put another child in the hands of ANY government agency because CPS nationwide is guilty of more harm and death than any human being combined. CPS nationwide is guilty of more human rights violations and deaths of children then the homes from which they were removed. When are the judges going to wake up and see that they are sending children to their death and a life of abuse when children are removed from safe homes based on the mere opinion of a bunch of social workers. BE SURE TO FIND OUT WHERE YOUR CANDIDATES STANDS ON THE ISSUE OF REFORMING OR ABOLISHING CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES ("MAKE YOUR CANDIDATES TAKE A STAND ON THIS ISSUE.") THEN REMEMBER TO VOTE ACCORDINGLY IF THEY ARE "FAMILY UNFRIENDLY" IN THE NEXT ELECTION... -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Greg? Fulton DFCS official charged with felony child abuse: due in court July 31 for arraignment on a felony charge of first degree child cruelty.
The only thing even remotely new or interesting about this
is that a Judge ruled the kids had to be returned because the parent was "deprived". Have you EVER heard of kids being returned to their parents on those grounds? Is this a special law just for caseworkers? If (as has been said here) spanking with bruising is completely legal in Georgia, this case might prove something else interesting, that the agencies proceed WITHOUT a legal basis. Do you have any legal citations about how to use this "deprivation" defense in court, Kane or Dan? Does a parent have to be a caseworker to use that defense? Can other parents use this "deprivation" defense? On Jun 21, 12:11 pm, Subway Groper wrote: 0:-] wrote: On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:12:39 -0400, Subway Groper wrote: 0:-] wrote: On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 06:28:23 -0400, Subway Groper wrote: 0:-] wrote: On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 17:15:51 -0700, fx wrote: .... surly Greg, in all fairness, considering the other times he's spoken out for parents who beat and call it spanking, will come to the defense of this parent, won't he? Spanking is legal in Georgia - Spanking is legal in all states. There is an interpretation in Minnesota statute the could be taken as limiting spanking, but you haven't made your point. there is no 'limit' on the number of wacks, just the outcome. As long as the spanking causes no physical injury. Same as everywhere. You think hitting a child with a leather belt won't leave injuries? I see no mention of injury, Lack of evidence does not prove the negative. She used a leather belt. 34 times, on a child in her underwear. What are the chances there were no injuries, do you think? It's impossible to say - but a physical injury would be like a broken bone, or laceration requiring stitches - brusing is quite legal -- it must be a REAL injury. Tell you what, ask two professions if bruising is an "injury." A judge, and a doctor. No need to - GA statutes specifically allow brusing. See what they tell you. and her cronies gave her the rest of her kids back, so chances are she'll get a big -- NOT GUILTY on this spanking. They did? "After her arrest, the girls, 8, 6, 5, and 3, went back to live with their father." It was a judge, not her cronies, and it was all the children, not "the rest." Apparently they were in more serious risks with the father. Don't be silly - she's an asst. Director, chances are she's barbequed with this judge. In any event, I'm sure they are on a 'first name' basis. Chances are she and the judge are not buddies, but I'm NOT sure. How come you are? Cause I never met even a caseworker who wasn't on first name basis with Family Court judge. This spanker was an asst. director. "In May, a Fayette Juvenile Court judge granted Clark custody of her daughters after ruling the girls were deprived under the law. The hearing was closed to the public and a full explanation of what was meant by "deprived" was never given. And this is right up Greg's alley, for you see, he and his cronies like to argue that it's the Right of the Child not to be removed from abusive parents, least he or she not be there for the next adult parental temper tantrum. You're silly. Not usually on matters of someone beating a child with a belt. You make stuff up and attribute it to folks. Nope. You are confusing me with Greg and Ken. I've NEVER seen ANYONE here argue for a child to stay in an abusive situation. You are discussing Greg? On the contrary. You need to read his posts, and if you have already, you are obviously delusional. Like I said, it's useless because you define abuse as anything you don't like -- you've already made it clear hundreds of times a month, thousands of times a year for 5-6 years now that you believe Greg abused his stepchild -- You've even gone as far as to falsely accuse him of raping children. It's your sick obsession that is obviously delusional -- that and the fact you imagine yourself to be 'above' all others. It's just that your definition of 'abuse' includes anything YOU feel is abuse. Well, he just defended someone against their "unintended outcome" that resulted in the death of a child by asphyxiation from a taped on pacifier. He's defended another poster that was concerned entirely for the constitutional rights of the perp that WILLINGLY ADMITTED HE'D BEATEN CHILDREN AS HAD HIS CONGREGATION AND THEY WERE GOIGN TO CONTINUE, DESPITE STATUTES TO THE CONTRARY. That poster never ONCE mentioned the plight of the children and THEIR rights, and this poster, Greg, has the same record. Don't be silly. Greg cares a great deal for the children -- it shows through in his posts. You on the other hand use the children and their misfortune to attack parents -- your main concern seems to be that 'those evil parents get what they deserve'. Don, what you did with that website proves how you think of the children. Pork sausage. Stuff. Just more stuff for Don to use and manipulate for his own sick pleasure. Yes folks have argued that children should not be removed for spanking - We are not discussing "spanking," here. You are being disingenuous...lying, in fact. You are obviously mentally ill -- bye now. They have argued "children should not be removed," when the issue was clearly, even by the perps own admission, they had beaten their children. but then again, resonable folk [and legislatures in 50 states] don't see spanking as abuse. Your milage may vary. I see spanking as abuse. I do not confuse spanking with beating, however. I'm quite aware of the laws on this issue. If you check the posting history in both ascps, and aps, you will see exactly what I claim. An attempt to put words in the mouths of anti spankers, claiming they said "spanking is beating," when no such claim was made, and discussion of "spanking" and parent's rights to do so, when even judges that had to rule in the parent's favor in such cases were saddened they had to rule as they did because in fact the "spanking" was clearly a beating. So Greg would cheer the return of these children, if he will speak up and express his usual bias on such matters. You know nothing of what Mr. Hanson would 'cheer'. Don't be so silly. lol Of course I do. He has a posting record of doing precisely that. So does anyone else that's read his nonsense blathering. But then, I wouldn't want to speak for him. Just urging him to speak for himself, like he just recently defended the murder of a child by taping a pacifier to it's mouth as 'not intended," but CRIMINALIZED by the system. I suggest you take your considerable obsession with Greg to email. If you paid closer attention to reality you'd see that he discusses child protection. That IS the group I'm posting from. Hence I'm quite likely to respond to him. You seem to have failed to note he responds to just about every new thread I begin. Hence, you are either deliberately ignorant, or you are lying. I'm touched at how sentimental, when it comes to murderous, incestuous, raging parents our pet group "parent and child loving," darling can be. This article isn't about what your daddy did to you boy, Mac, you need to stop and think. it's about a lady that spanked her kid. And 8 year old girl, in her undies, 34 times with a belt. You really should seek help for your problem. You know someone that can educate Greg when I can't? Good luck. Yes, I'd need it, if I really though I could change Greg Hansen, or his silly sock wearing buddies. He has persistently ignored the plight of children with YALPs who do considerably more to them than a "spanking," Mac. And he lies continually. As you do, and have since your first post to this newsgroup, Mac. 0:] 0:] Or could it be he has a double standard? Gosh, Greg, where's Fern when you need him, eh? 0:] Fulton DFCS official charged with felony child abuse http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met...2007/06/20/062... By KATHY JEFCOATS The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 06/20/07 One of Fulton County's top child welfare officials has been indicted on child abuse charges, Fayette County Superior Court records show. Cylenthia Clark, 38, of Atlanta, is due in court July 31 for arraignment on a felony charge of first degree child cruelty. She is assistant director of the Fulton Department of Family and Children's Services. The June 5 indictment alleges Clark beat her oldest child, an 8-year-old girl, 34 times with a leather belt after ordering her to strip to her underwear. Clark has denied being abusive but said she spanked the girl as punishment for fighting a teacher in an after-school program. Clark and her husband, Chicago natives, are divorcing and she was living in Fayetteville with their four daughters. After her arrest, the girls, 8, 6, 5, and 3, went back to live with their father. Clark returned to her job after bonding out of the Fayette jail but DFCS officials said she is doing administrative duties, not working with child protective cases. In May, a Fayette Juvenile Court judge granted Clark custody of her daughters after ruling the girls were deprived under the law. The hearing was closed to the public and a full explanation of what was meant by "deprived" was never given. CURRENTLY CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES VIOLATES MORE CIVIL RIGHTS ON A DAILY BASIS THEN ALL OTHER AGENCIES COMBINED INCLUDING THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY/CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY WIRETAPPING PROGRAM.... CPS Does not protect children... It is sickening how many children are subject to abuse, neglect and even killed at the hands of Child Protective Services. every parent should read this .pdf from connecticut dcf watch... http://www.connecticutdcfwatch.com/8x11.pdf ... read more »- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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