| What do Swedish parents do instead of spanking?

On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 21:25:14 -0700, Doan wrote:

On 6 Jun 2004, Chris wrote:

Kane wrote:
[snip]
: Sweden isn't mentioned in the article. If you wish to discuss
sweden
: why not refer to the many posts on this subject that explain all
your
: garbage away quite nicely?

: You bring up argument you've been defeated in before. That's not
: debate...that's harrassment.

Years ago, Doan realized that the lurkers on this newsgroup
were
mostly a transient population, and that if he lost an argument, he
could
just change the subject or disappear for a while, then come back
and
repose the very same argument he was unable to support previously,
as if
it were a brand new revelation. And most of the lurkers would not
know
the difference because they weren't present for any of the earlier
iterations of the same argument.

Actually, this clearly a description of yourself!

Nope. Chris is happy to present new material from time to time. You
seem extremely deficient in new issues.

Your responses do not deal with the new issues presented. You simply
start regurgitating the same old crab.

In this way, Doan, passionately committed to a position he
cannot
defend with facts in open debate, strives to create the appearance
of a
substantive controversy where none actually exists.

And outright lie!

Nope. Right on target. You haven't presented any "debate" for years.
It's all babbling repetition of the same old thing.

If you can draw someone off into the old debates (even though you've
lost those) you get to escape the current one.

I asked you The Question. When I successfuly challenged your truly
bizzare responses, what came up from you? Why the old challenge to
debate the Embry Study...when YOU thought no one had any study.

I know how hard it was to get ahold of for people because I knew it
was out of print for many years...and an old study...25 years old...at
that.

You're just a childish game player.

The fact is I have been trying to have a "debate" with
you and lately,

No you haven't. You've once again strutted around pretending you are a
tough debater, when in fact you are only a master.

You are laughable, but amusing.

LaVonne.

You have been running away from me for years!

Really? He posts a website, he apparently reads this ng regularly.
He's seen your "debate" over the years. Rants and the most nincompoop
nonsense interpretation of data and research to come down the pike.

You even rebute yourself in the same page...once in the same
paragraph, apparently so hysterically blinded by your compulsion to
defend spanking you can't even see what you are doing.

And LaVonne has disappeared since her "offer" to debate on the Power
&
Chapiesky (1986) study.

Nope. She asked you to get the study. Do you have it?

Can you debate honestly?

I've not seen you do so in the time I've been here, and the archives
as far back as they go.

I have been exposing your lies since 1998. Shall I do it again? ;-)

Oh, please do. I love it when you do that. Your favorites, at best,
would constititue mistakes or missing something....you do know what a
lie is, don't you Droany?

You see, THAT is precisely why I can comfortably claim you don't
debate. And that you ad hom when others do not. It's rare I've seen
Chris ad hom, but you call him a liar about once a month. And you
haven't proven him a liar, only pointed out what could be mistakes.

A liar is someone that deliberately attempts to decieve..something you
seem inordinately, compusively, good at.

When you make a claim and flat refuse to follow up on it, that is
lying Droaner.

I've seen Chris respond to your challenge of a lie with, as I did, a
perfectly plausable explaination of oversight...simply not having seen
the issue referred to and you insisted on continuing to call him a
liar as you did me.

Your challenges to debate are echoes of school yard bully posturing
that you can only get away with in a forum such as this out of reach
of people.

You continually make a fool of yourself, and disrupt real inquiry. If
anyone came here trying to sort out what YOU claim you wish them to to
make up their own minds, YOU put them off any kind of sustained search
here.

You're a clown. But a vicious one, obviously, that happily will risk
injury to children for your little ego games.

You don't.......debate.

Kane




Doan

Chris