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Mark Probert wrote: Jason Johnson wrote: snipped Mark, It's still hard to believe that mercury (unless it was combined with a medicine) would help treat any disorder or disease. I will take your word that mercury (combined with huge amounts of water) can be used to treat at least one disorder. Like I said, it is homeopathic. The chances of you finding a molecule of the mercury salt is nearly nil. Oh, and dihydrogen monoxide is commonly called H2O. Water cures thirst. It's been a while since we've seen someone who didn't catch that one. I also found out that health food stores actually sell products that contain silver (silver sulfadiazine): examples from a catalog published by Vitamin Research Products: Silver Liquid--immune support--one-half teaspoon in one ouce of water once a day. Silver Nasal Formula--spray in nose several times per day. Silver Optic Formula--two drops four times per day in eyes. Silver is a topical antibacterial. So are lemon juice, lime juice, rosemary essential oil, thyme essential oil, etc. I'll stick with the ones I can make myself if I choose to, thankyouverymuch! Kitten |
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In article . com,
"Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe" wrote: Jason Johnson wrote: In article , Mark Probert wrote: snipped for ease of reading... {puts on teacher face} Mark, you know better. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mark, Thanks. It must be a very rare disorder since it is not listed in my "Laboratory Test Handbook with Disease Index". It is rather common in the northern hemisphere during this time of the year. You must remember that it is a homeopathic medicine. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mark, It's still hard to believe that mercury (unless it was combined with a medicine) would help treat any disorder or disease. I will take your word that mercury (combined with huge amounts of water) can be used to treat at least one disorder. I also found out that health food stores actually sell products that contain silver (silver sulfadiazine): examples from a catalog published by Vitamin Research Products: Silver Liquid--immune support--one-half teaspoon in one ouce of water once a day. Silver Nasal Formula--spray in nose several times per day. Silver Optic Formula--two drops four times per day in eyes. Jason You've never read about colloidal silver before? Some think it's the miracle cure-all. Kitten ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Kitten, Some think that placing silver in our eyes is NOT a wise thing to do. However, if people want to place drops of silver in their eyes--that's alright with me. I only found out about it about one or two years ago when I saw it for sale at a health food store. I should note that on the long list of poisons in my "Laboratory Test Handbook"--that silver is not listed. However, aluminum and mercury are listed. Jason ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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In article , Mark Probert
wrote: Jason Johnson wrote: In article , Mark Probert wrote: Jason Johnson wrote: In article , Mark Probert wrote: Jason Johnson wrote: In article , Mark Probert wrote: Jason Johnson wrote: In article , Mark Probert wrote: Jason Johnson wrote: In article , JohnDoe wrote: Peter Bowditch wrote: "HCN" wrote: "JohnDoe" wrote in message l... Jason Johnson wrote: .... And if they ever did, did aluminum cause it? Dear Jason, the word 'metal' does not equal 'so poisonous it should be wholly removed from the environment'. While you may not be an anti-vac liar, you certainly seem to suffer from a degree of delusion with regard to the toxicity of metals. ... Hmmm... would that mean (according to those that equate metal to "bad") that the following metals should never be ingested by humans: calcium ... http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html iron ... http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html sodium ... http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html potassium ... http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html I'm waiting for the day when the anti-psychiatry loons criticise medications containing lithium because of the risk of heavy metal poisoning. Damn, why didn't I think of that!! BTW, are you sure they haven't done that yet? And if they didn't and they start doing it, at least we'll have clue who started it all. Lol. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JohnDoe, Lithium is used in the treatment of manic-depressive illness. However, as you may know, "...lithium toxicity, including severe neutoxic effects, can occur with normal serum lithium levels...." Source: "Labortory Test Handbook" (2nd Edition) by David S. Jabobs, M.D. and others. As far as I know, mercury is NOT used to treat any illnesses so there is a majory difference between lithium and mercury. There are homeopathic medicines prepared with mercury. Look it up. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JohnDoe, In these homeopathic medicines, is mercury the ONLY item or is it mixed with other items? It is mixed with water. Lots of water. As far as lithium is concerned, it does NOT need to be mixed with any items. Jason ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mark, What disease or disorder is this Homeopathic Medicine containing mercury and large amounts of water able to treat? For one thing, Dihydrogen monoxide deficiency syndrome. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mark, Thanks. It must be a very rare disorder since it is not listed in my "Laboratory Test Handbook with Disease Index". It is rather common in the northern hemisphere during this time of the year. You must remember that it is a homeopathic medicine. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mark, It's still hard to believe that mercury (unless it was combined with a medicine) would help treat any disorder or disease. I will take your word that mercury (combined with huge amounts of water) can be used to treat at least one disorder. Like I said, it is homeopathic. The chances of you finding a molecule of the mercury salt is nearly nil. Oh, and dihydrogen monoxide is commonly called H2O. Water cures thirst. I also found out that health food stores actually sell products that contain silver (silver sulfadiazine): examples from a catalog published by Vitamin Research Products: Silver Liquid--immune support--one-half teaspoon in one ouce of water once a day. Silver Nasal Formula--spray in nose several times per day. Silver Optic Formula--two drops four times per day in eyes. Silver is a topical antibacterial. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mark, Let's get serious--Is mercury used to treat any disorders or diseases? Jason ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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In article . net, "Karen
R." wrote: Mark Probert wrote the following on 7/28/2006 3:05 PM: Jason Johnson wrote: Mark, What disease or disorder is this Homeopathic Medicine containing mercury and large amounts of water able to treat? For one thing, Dihydrogen monoxide deficiency syndrome. Mark -- Go. To. Your. Room. Karen R., still choking with laughter ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karen, So Mark drinks water combined with mercury when he is dehydrated? LOL Jason ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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(Jason Johnson) wrote:
Mark, What disease or disorder is this Homeopathic Medicine containing mercury and large amounts of water able to treat? Jason According to the book I have, Mercurius Solubilis is an effective treatment for, wait for it, "everything". MERCURIUS SOLUBILIS (mere.) Study of Mercurius is a prime example of how the concept of the essence of a remedy can clear up a seemingly overwhelming mass of data. Mercurius being one of the more extensively proven and widely used remedies in the Materia Medica, presents a for- midable array of symptoms for the beginner to study; it is a ver- itable textbook of pathological states. However, after repeated and prolonged study and meditation on the Materia Medica, one gradually is able to discern a thread, a theme, which runs through the remedy. Once this is comprehended, all the "data" falls in place into a single unique image. In Mercurius, there is no single word or phrase which adequately describes this thread. The basic idea is that there is a lack of reac- tive power coupled with an instability or inefficiency of func- tion. The healthy organism has a defence mechanism, a reactivity, which enables it to create a stable, efficient equilibrium upon exposure to the many physical and emotional stimuli in the envi- ronment. In Mercurius, this reactive power is weakened, becom- ing unstable and wavering in its functions. Virtually all stimuli are absorbed by the patient without adequate defence, resulting in a pathological condition. The lack of defensive power results in the Mercur is patient being sensitive to everything. As we go through the vlateria Medica we find that the Mercurius patient is AGGRAVATED by everything—heat, cold, outdoors, wet weather, change of weather, warmth of bed, perspiration, exertions, various foods etc. By con- trast, there seem to be very few ameliorations; very little can be absorbed by the patient to result in comfort, because the system is unable to properly adjust to anything. As an interesting demon- stration (though not a generally recommended method for study) one can go through the Generalities section of the Repertory seek- ing the number of rubrics in which it is listed in italics or bold type as being aggravated or ameliorated by physical influences; there are only 7 listings for amelioration (5 of which have to do with lying down), while there are 55 rubrics describing aggra- vations. Because of this extreme vulnerability, we see that the Page 123 of "The Essence of Materia Medica" by George Vithoulkas, Jain:New Delhi, 1988 Next five-and-a-bit pages of similar gobbledygook deleted. -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com |
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Mark Probert wrote:
Jason Johnson wrote: In article , Mark Probert wrote: Jason Johnson wrote: In article , Mark Probert wrote: Jason Johnson wrote: In article , Mark Probert wrote: Jason Johnson wrote: In article , JohnDoe wrote: Peter Bowditch wrote: "HCN" wrote: "JohnDoe" wrote in message l... Jason Johnson wrote: .... And if they ever did, did aluminum cause it? Dear Jason, the word 'metal' does not equal 'so poisonous it should be wholly removed from the environment'. While you may not be an anti-vac liar, you certainly seem to suffer from a degree of delusion with regard to the toxicity of metals. ... Hmmm... would that mean (according to those that equate metal to "bad") that the following metals should never be ingested by humans: calcium ... http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html iron ... http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html sodium ... http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html potassium ... http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html I'm waiting for the day when the anti-psychiatry loons criticise medications containing lithium because of the risk of heavy metal poisoning. Damn, why didn't I think of that!! BTW, are you sure they haven't done that yet? And if they didn't and they start doing it, at least we'll have clue who started it all. Lol. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JohnDoe, Lithium is used in the treatment of manic-depressive illness. However, as you may know, "...lithium toxicity, including severe neutoxic effects, can occur with normal serum lithium levels...." Source: "Labortory Test Handbook" (2nd Edition) by David S. Jabobs, M.D. and others. As far as I know, mercury is NOT used to treat any illnesses so there is a majory difference between lithium and mercury. There are homeopathic medicines prepared with mercury. Look it up. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JohnDoe, In these homeopathic medicines, is mercury the ONLY item or is it mixed with other items? It is mixed with water. Lots of water. As far as lithium is concerned, it does NOT need to be mixed with any items. Jason ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mark, What disease or disorder is this Homeopathic Medicine containing mercury and large amounts of water able to treat? For one thing, Dihydrogen monoxide deficiency syndrome. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mark, Thanks. It must be a very rare disorder since it is not listed in my "Laboratory Test Handbook with Disease Index". It is rather common in the northern hemisphere during this time of the year. You must remember that it is a homeopathic medicine. The deficiency has been so bad in my part of the world over the last year or so that people have often been overheard to say "Dam!". -- Peter Bowditch aa #2243 The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com |
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In article .com,
"Raving Loonie" wrote: Jason Johnson wrote: In article , Mark Probert wrote: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mark, It's still hard to believe that mercury (unless it was combined with a medicine) would help treat any disorder or disease. I will take your word that mercury (combined with huge amounts of water) can be used to treat at least one disorder. I also found out that health food stores actually sell products that contain silver (silver sulfadiazine): examples from a catalog published by Vitamin Research Products: Silver Liquid--immune support--one-half teaspoon in one ouce of water once a day. Silver Nasal Formula--spray in nose several times per day. Silver Optic Formula--two drops four times per day in eyes. Jason ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jason ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Enjoy your next cup of Aluminum infused tea, Jason. If being a drunk doesn't addle the brain; being a tea drinker *might* do the trick. ;-) Cordially, RL P.S. Nice to see you switch to more conventional quoting methods. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [Contents of aluminum and manganese in tea leaves and tea infusions] [Article in Japanese] Matsushima F, Me****suka S, Nose T. Tottori Women's College, Kurayoshi, Japan. We measured the contents of aluminum and manganese in tea leaves and tea infusions by means of various standardized infusion conditions, and by using flameless atomic absorption spectrophotometry, and investigated the influence of infusion conditions on the elution of aluminum and manganese into the tea infusions. Furthermore, we tried to estimate the daily intake of aluminum and manganese due to drinking tea infusions. The content of aluminum in tea leaves was 1420 micrograms/g in case of wulong tea, 576 micrograms/g in black tea, and 520 micrograms/g in green tea. The content of manganese was 1440 micrograms/g in the case of wulong tea, 670 micrograms/g in green tea, and 535 micrograms/g in black tea. The concentration of aluminum in tea infusions was 1.49-5.58 micrograms/ml in wulong tea, 0.90-4.92 micrograms/ml in green tea, and 0.64-4.35 micrograms/ml in black tea. The concentration of manganese was 1.75-6.67 micrograms/ml in green tea, 0.94-4.04 micrograms/ml in wulong tea, and 0.78-3.24 micrograms/ml in black tea. The ratio of the molar concentration of aluminum to that of manganese was 1-2:1 in tea leaves, and 1-5:1 in tea infusions. In the case of elevated-temperature infusion, increases of the concentrations of aluminum and manganese in tea infusions were recognized. By repeating infusion three times according to the standard method for ingredient analysis of food, 18-29% of the total content of aluminum in tea leaves was eluted, and 12-29% of the total content of manganese was eluted.(ABSTRACT TRUNCATED AT 250 WORDS) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ RL, Thanks a lot--something else for me to worry about--alumnium in tea. I have already had to discard a full bottle of antacid since it contained high levels of alumnium. My quoting methods work with some newsgroup readers. I tried another newsreader that will work with my old computer but it would not allow me to use a fake email address. Jason ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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In article , Peter Bowditch
wrote: Mark Probert wrote: Jason Johnson wrote: In article , Mark Probert wrote: Jason Johnson wrote: In article , Mark Probert wrote: Jason Johnson wrote: In article , Mark Probert wrote: Jason Johnson wrote: In article , JohnDoe wrote: Peter Bowditch wrote: "HCN" wrote: "JohnDoe" wrote in message l... Jason Johnson wrote: .... And if they ever did, did aluminum cause it? Dear Jason, the word 'metal' does not equal 'so poisonous it should be wholly removed from the environment'. While you may not be an anti-vac liar, you certainly seem to suffer from a degree of delusion with regard to the toxicity of metals. ... Hmmm... would that mean (according to those that equate metal to "bad") that the following metals should never be ingested by humans: calcium ... http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html iron ... http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html sodium ... http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html potassium ... http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html I'm waiting for the day when the anti-psychiatry loons criticise medications containing lithium because of the risk of heavy metal poisoning. Damn, why didn't I think of that!! BTW, are you sure they haven't done that yet? And if they didn't and they start doing it, at least we'll have clue who started it all. Lol. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JohnDoe, Lithium is used in the treatment of manic-depressive illness. However, as you may know, "...lithium toxicity, including severe neutoxic effects, can occur with normal serum lithium levels...." Source: "Labortory Test Handbook" (2nd Edition) by David S. Jabobs, M.D. and others. As far as I know, mercury is NOT used to treat any illnesses so there is a majory difference between lithium and mercury. There are homeopathic medicines prepared with mercury. Look it up. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ JohnDoe, In these homeopathic medicines, is mercury the ONLY item or is it mixed with other items? It is mixed with water. Lots of water. As far as lithium is concerned, it does NOT need to be mixed with any items. Jason ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mark, What disease or disorder is this Homeopathic Medicine containing mercury and large amounts of water able to treat? For one thing, Dihydrogen monoxide deficiency syndrome. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mark, Thanks. It must be a very rare disorder since it is not listed in my "Laboratory Test Handbook with Disease Index". It is rather common in the northern hemisphere during this time of the year. You must remember that it is a homeopathic medicine. The deficiency has been so bad in my part of the world over the last year or so that people have often been overheard to say "Dam!". ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Do you do the same thing that Mark does to treat the problem which is to drink huge amounts of water combined with mercury? LOL Jason ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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"Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe" wrote:
Jason Johnson wrote: In article , Mark Probert wrote: snipped for ease of reading... {puts on teacher face} Mark, you know better. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mark, Thanks. It must be a very rare disorder since it is not listed in my "Laboratory Test Handbook with Disease Index". It is rather common in the northern hemisphere during this time of the year. You must remember that it is a homeopathic medicine. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mark, It's still hard to believe that mercury (unless it was combined with a medicine) would help treat any disorder or disease. I will take your word that mercury (combined with huge amounts of water) can be used to treat at least one disorder. I also found out that health food stores actually sell products that contain silver (silver sulfadiazine): examples from a catalog published by Vitamin Research Products: Silver Liquid--immune support--one-half teaspoon in one ouce of water once a day. Silver Nasal Formula--spray in nose several times per day. Silver Optic Formula--two drops four times per day in eyes. Jason You've never read about colloidal silver before? Some think it's the miracle cure-all. Kitten Some cure all; Argyria http://www.together.net/~rjstan/argy...tos_intro.html |
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