BU$TED?

Jan Drew wrote:
I have not a clue what I know.

We know that, Jan. Why you feel the need to advertise it repeatedly is
what is puzzling.



Rosalind/Stella. *;*

Hint--Hint.

The purpose is in the subject line.

"cathyb" wrote in message
ups.com...

Jan Drew wrote:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...e024f1a30f2485

'Fraid so.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc....206d13e5b75917

Fraid not.



That's "afraid," you illiterate twit

Jan, apart from pointing out that you don't know what an apostrophe
signifies, was there a reason for this post? Do you just enjoy showing
everyone that you're a semi-literate bitter old bint?


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....13874dc009b88b

Neither of your links worked, Jan. How about fixing that when you get
over
your giggling fit?

http://groups.google.com/group/misc....6c9484fe669fc2


Those were my links, and I have no idea why they didn't work. I
certainly can't be bothered trying to find them again, when everyone
has read the pertinent stuff anyway.

http://groups.google.com/group/misc....msg/271e489e7b...


Fri, Jun 9 2006 10:55 pm


[posted links that didn't work].


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....msg/1c6c9484fe...


Sat, Jun 10 2006 2:57 am


Those were my links, and I have no idea why they didn't work. I
certainly can't be bothered trying to find them again, when everyone
has read the pertinent stuff anyway.


http://groups.google.com/group/misc....msg/5a2a3c5aa9...


Sun, Jun 11 2006 1:43 am


[posted correct links that worked].





http://groups.google.com/group/misc....c823b72b4903de

Gang* Behavior, Lies, Deceiving, Twisting, Insulting, False Blaming and
Belittling.

Another EXCELLENT example of the title of this thread.

Good job, Rich!



"cathyb" wrote in message
ps.com...



Jan Drew wrote:
"JohnDoe" wrote in message
. ..
Jason Johnson wrote:

In article , JohnDoe
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
Mark,
I know that ONE vaccine that contains alumninum is not
likely to
cause harm.
However, as you probably know, alumninum is in many
different
products
such as antacids. If they started placing alumninum in all
vaccines (to replace
mercury), it could cause high levels of alumninum to build
up in
the
bodies of people. Why would you ASSUME that there
would be
a
build up?
It could cause as much harm as high levels of mercury.
Why would you assume that? Different toxins act
differently.
Spend
some time learning the various types of "snake venom" and how
they
work.
It could lead to alumninum poisoning. Heavy metal
poisoning
and
alumninum
poisoning are known medical issues. I was shocked when I
noticed
that
almost every brand of antacids contains high levels of
alumninum.
Does the body absorb it, though? Does the body retain it?
One dose
of alumninum is NOT a problem--however, I hope that even you
would
agree
that 100 doses of alumninum is a problem--esp. in those
people
that
have
an allergic reactions to alumninum. Only if it
accumulates
to
a toxic level.
People that have various types of
kidney diseases are advised not to use productes that
contain
alumninum. Why?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mark,
You made some good points in your post. I have conducted some
research
related to kidney diseases mainly by reading a book that was
written
by a
kidney specialist that is a professor at a medical college. I
am
NOT
an
expert on kidney diseases. It's my understanding based upon
what I
read in
that book that diseased kidneys have a difficult time removing
various
substances such as mercury, alumninum (and various types of
medications),
and other heavy metals from the body. As a result, those things
accumuluate and cause great harm. For example, if you drank an
entire
bottle of an antacid (and had normal kidneys), it probably
would
not
harm
you. On the other hand, if someone that had weak or diseased
kidneys,
drank a bottle of antacid, the alumninum in that bottle of
antacid
may
cause great harm and perhaps even alumninum poisoning. Dear
Jason,
have you ever heard the expression: "the poison is in the dosage"?
Or:
"one aspirin takes the headache away, a whole bottle takes the
patient
away"? Are you aware that you can die from drinking too much
water.
Yes,
plain, good ol' H2O. Are you aware that aluminum is one of the
most
ubiquitous element on the face of the earth and if it really were
that
poisonous, life on earth as we know it would not exist? Are you
aware
that aluminum is NOT a heavy metal, but in fact one of the
lightest
metals that we know of?
You would be amazed
at the number of medications that have a warning that states:
"People
that
have kidney disease or liver disease should NOT take this
medication."
Yes--I would agree that heavy metals may in some cases (e.g.
kidney
disease) accumulate to a toxic level.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~

JohnDoe,
True or False:
Is alumninum poisoning a know medical issue?

At what dose Jason, at what dose?

ZZzz.................[just a little dab ill do ya].

To quote an infamous Australian politician, Jan, "Please explain."

Yet again you've managed to write utter gobbledygook.

Remedial English, Jan. Once you can express yourself, people might
begin to give a **** what you think.

Although I doubt it.



.....

This was answered...YESTERDAY!!

Note how John can't answer Jason's question.

Do babies ever develop reactions to the Hep-B vaccine that
contains
alumninum?

And if they ever did, did aluminum cause it?

AND..............

Again...John canNOT answer.


Dear Jason, the word 'metal' does not equal 'so poisonous it should
be
wholly removed from the environment'. While you may not be an
anti-vac
liar, you certainly seem to suffer from a degree of delusion with
regard
to the toxicity of metals.

Jason

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~

But..................John suffers from ARGUING.................and
IGNORING..............FACTS!

Aluminum Neurotoxicity


Redhead K, Quinlan GJ, Das RG, Gutteridge JM. Pharmacol Toxicol 1992
Apr;70(4):278-80.


Aluminium-adjuvanted vaccines transiently increase aluminium levels
in
murine brain tissue.


Division of Bacteriology, National Institute for Biological Standards
and
Control, Herts., UK.


Aluminum is widely used as an adjuvant in human vaccines, and
children
can
often receive up to 3.75 mg of parenteral aluminum during the first
six
months of life. We show that intraperitoneal injection of aluminum
adsorbed
vaccines into mice causes a transient rise in brain tissue aluminum
levels
peaking around the second and third day after injection. This rise is
not
seen in the saline control group of animals or with vaccine not
containing
aluminum. It is likely that aluminum is transported to the brain by
the
iron-binding protein transferrin and enters the brain via specific
transferrin receptors. PMID: 1608913, UI: 92302160


http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/516045_Tables

Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
Jason Johnson wrote:
snipped
Mark,
It's still hard to believe that mercury (unless it was combined with a
medicine) would help treat any disorder or disease. I will take your word
that mercury (combined with huge amounts of water) can be used to treat at
least one disorder.
Like I said, it is homeopathic. The chances of you finding a molecule of
the mercury salt is nearly nil.

Oh, and dihydrogen monoxide is commonly called H2O. Water cures thirst.


It's been a while since we've seen someone who didn't catch that one.

Yeah, I know. However, it does happen. I recently nailed a spammer for a
juice by pointing out that the juice was loaded with chemicals. S/h/it
assured me that the juice was chemical free.




I also found out that health food stores actually sell
products that contain silver (silver sulfadiazine):
examples from a catalog published by Vitamin Research Products:
Silver Liquid--immune support--one-half teaspoon in one ouce of water once
a day.
Silver Nasal Formula--spray in nose several times per day.
Silver Optic Formula--two drops four times per day in eyes.
Silver is a topical antibacterial.


So are lemon juice, lime juice, rosemary essential oil, thyme essential
oil, etc. I'll stick with the ones I can make myself if I choose to,
thankyouverymuch!

The leftovers can be used for lemonade, limeade, etc.

Silver is used on some hospital equipment as a topical antibacterial.

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article ,
JohnDoe
wrote:

Peter Bowditch wrote:

"HCN" wrote:


"JohnDoe" wrote in message
l...

Jason Johnson wrote:


.... And if they ever did, did aluminum cause it?

Dear Jason, the word 'metal' does not equal 'so poisonous it
should be
wholly removed from the environment'. While you may not be an
anti-vac
liar, you certainly seem to suffer from a degree of delusion
with regard
to the toxicity of metals.


...

Hmmm... would that mean (according to those that equate
metal to
"bad") that
the following metals should never be ingested by humans:

calcium ...

http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html
iron ...

http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html
sodium ...

http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html
potassium ...

http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html



I'm waiting for the day when the anti-psychiatry loons
criticise
medications containing lithium because of the risk of
heavy metal
poisoning.

Damn, why didn't I think of that!! BTW, are you sure they
haven't done
that yet? And if they didn't and they start doing it, at
least we'll
have clue who started it all. Lol.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

JohnDoe,
Lithium is used in the treatment of manic-depressive illness.
However, as
you may know, "...lithium toxicity, including severe neutoxic
effects, can
occur with normal serum lithium levels...."

Source: "Labortory Test Handbook" (2nd Edition) by David S.
Jabobs, M.D.
and others.

As far as I know, mercury is NOT used to treat any illnesses so
there is a
majory difference between lithium and mercury.

There are homeopathic medicines prepared with mercury.

Look it up.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

JohnDoe,
In these homeopathic medicines, is mercury the ONLY item or is
it mixed
with other items?

It is mixed with water. Lots of water.

As far as lithium is concerned, it does NOT need to be
mixed with any items.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
What disease or disorder is this Homeopathic Medicine containing
mercury
and large amounts of water able to treat?

For one thing, Dihydrogen monoxide deficiency syndrome.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
Thanks. It must be a very rare disorder since it is not listed in my
"Laboratory Test Handbook with Disease Index".

It is rather common in the northern hemisphere during this time of the
year. You must remember that it is a homeopathic medicine.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
It's still hard to believe that mercury (unless it was combined with a
medicine) would help treat any disorder or disease. I will take your word
that mercury (combined with huge amounts of water) can be used to treat at
least one disorder.

Like I said, it is homeopathic. The chances of you finding a molecule of
the mercury salt is nearly nil.

Oh, and dihydrogen monoxide is commonly called H2O. Water cures thirst.

I also found out that health food stores actually sell
products that contain silver (silver sulfadiazine):
examples from a catalog published by Vitamin Research Products:
Silver Liquid--immune support--one-half teaspoon in one ouce of water once
a day.
Silver Nasal Formula--spray in nose several times per day.
Silver Optic Formula--two drops four times per day in eyes.

Silver is a topical antibacterial.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
Let's get serious--Is mercury used to treat any disorders or diseases?

Since I do not know the chemical composition of every medical treatment
under the sun, it is an impossible question for me to answer.

As for serious, chill out...try some solid dihydrogen monoxide.

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article . com,
"Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe" wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:
snipped for ease of reading... {puts on teacher face} Mark, you know
better.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
Thanks. It must be a very rare disorder since it is not listed in my
"Laboratory Test Handbook with Disease Index".

It is rather common in the northern hemisphere during this time of the
year. You must remember that it is a homeopathic medicine.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
It's still hard to believe that mercury (unless it was combined with a
medicine) would help treat any disorder or disease. I will take your word
that mercury (combined with huge amounts of water) can be used to treat at
least one disorder. I also found out that health food stores actually sell
products that contain silver (silver sulfadiazine):
examples from a catalog published by Vitamin Research Products:
Silver Liquid--immune support--one-half teaspoon in one ouce of water once
a day.
Silver Nasal Formula--spray in nose several times per day.
Silver Optic Formula--two drops four times per day in eyes.
Jason


You've never read about colloidal silver before? Some think it's the
miracle cure-all.

Kitten

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Kitten,
Some think that placing silver in our eyes is NOT a wise thing to do.
However, if people want to place drops of silver in their eyes--that's
alright with me.
I only found out about it about one or two years ago when I saw it for
sale at a health food store. I should note that on the long list of
poisons in my "Laboratory Test Handbook"--that silver is not listed.
However, aluminum and mercury are listed.

While it may not be a "poison", it does have a nasty side effect. It
turns people into Smurfs.

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article . net, "Karen
R." wrote:

Mark Probert wrote the following on 7/28/2006 3:05 PM:
Jason Johnson wrote:

Mark,
What disease or disorder is this Homeopathic Medicine containing mercury
and large amounts of water able to treat?

For one thing, Dihydrogen monoxide deficiency syndrome.

Mark -- Go. To. Your. Room.

Karen R., still choking with laughter

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Karen,
So Mark drinks water combined with mercury when he is dehydrated?
LOL

When one is seriously dehydrated, one often drinks what is available.

HCN wrote:
"Jason Johnson" wrote in message
...
In article , "HCN"
wrote:

"Jason Johnson" wrote in message
...
... Karen,
So Mark drinks water combined with mercury when he is dehydrated?
LOL
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hint: Homeopathic remedies are diluted to the point where there is not
one
mercury atom in the solution, as explained he
http://badhomeopath.com/?p=17

The dilution is often something like 1 to
10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 ...

See http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles/comment/homeopathy.htm and
http://www.skepdic.com/homeo.html and

I also found the previous exchange very funny! Now I have to see if my
garden needs any dihydrogen monoxide... see http://www.dhmo.org/ .

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Don't forget to add the mercury---LOL

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Your level of comprehension is absolutely homeopathic!

Email me for the address to send my new keyboard.

Jason Johnson wrote:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Thanks but someone else already told me about the website
that discussed Dihydrogen monoxide--it's rainwater.
I visited the site.
It the type of humor that children in grade school or
high school science class would really enjoy.
Does Mark think on that same level? I hope not.

Jason, you have got to lighten up a bit. From reading all of your posts,
you seem a tad obsessed with environmental "poisons". While there are
valid concerns, it is not an "all or nothing" situation.


Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~






"Mark Probert" wrote in message
...
Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:
Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , JohnDoe
wrote:
Peter Bowditch wrote:
"HCN" wrote:
"JohnDoe" wrote in
message l...

Jason Johnson wrote:


.... And if they ever did, did aluminum cause it?

Dear Jason, the word 'metal' does not equal 'so poisonous it
should be wholly removed from the environment'. While you may
not be an
anti-vac liar, you certainly seem to suffer from a degree of
delusion
with regard to the toxicity of metals.


...

Hmmm... would that mean (according to those that equate metal to
"bad") that the following metals should never be ingested by
humans:

calcium ...
http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html
iron ...
http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html
sodium ...
http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html
potassium ...
http://www.theodoregray.com/Periodic.../index.s7.html

I'm waiting for the day when the anti-psychiatry
loons criticise
medications containing lithium because of the risk of heavy
metal
poisoning.
Damn, why didn't I think of that!! BTW, are you sure they
haven't done that yet? And if they didn't and they start doing it,
at least we'll have clue who started it all. Lol.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
JohnDoe,
Lithium is used in the treatment of manic-depressive illness.
However, as
you may know, "...lithium toxicity, including severe neutoxic
effects, can
occur with normal serum lithium levels...."
Source: "Labortory Test Handbook" (2nd Edition) by David S.
Jabobs, M.D.
and others. As far as I know, mercury is NOT used to
treat any illnesses so there is a
majory difference between lithium and mercury. There are
homeopathic medicines prepared with mercury.
Look it up.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
JohnDoe,
In these homeopathic medicines, is mercury the ONLY item or is it
mixed
with other items? It is mixed with water. Lots of water.
As far as lithium is concerned, it does NOT need to be
mixed with any items. Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
What disease or disorder is this Homeopathic Medicine containing mercury
and large amounts of water able to treat?

For one thing, Dihydrogen monoxide deficiency syndrome.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
Jason Johnson wrote:
snipped
Mark,
It's still hard to believe that mercury (unless it was combined with a
medicine) would help treat any disorder or disease. I will take your word
that mercury (combined with huge amounts of water) can be used to treat at
least one disorder.
Like I said, it is homeopathic. The chances of you finding a molecule of
the mercury salt is nearly nil.

Oh, and dihydrogen monoxide is commonly called H2O. Water cures thirst.


It's been a while since we've seen someone who didn't catch that one.

Yeah, I know. However, it does happen. I recently nailed a spammer for a
juice by pointing out that the juice was loaded with chemicals. S/h/it
assured me that the juice was chemical free.




I also found out that health food stores actually sell
products that contain silver (silver sulfadiazine):
examples from a catalog published by Vitamin Research Products:
Silver Liquid--immune support--one-half teaspoon in one ouce of water once
a day.
Silver Nasal Formula--spray in nose several times per day.
Silver Optic Formula--two drops four times per day in eyes.
Silver is a topical antibacterial.


So are lemon juice, lime juice, rosemary essential oil, thyme essential
oil, etc. I'll stick with the ones I can make myself if I choose to,
thankyouverymuch!

The leftovers can be used for lemonade, limeade, etc.

Silver is used on some hospital equipment as a topical antibacterial.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
Do you believe that drops of silver (see above post Silver Optic
Formula) should be placed in the eyes of people. Would you place it in
your eyes? I would not.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Jason Johnson wrote:
In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Caitriona Mac Fhiodhbhuidhe wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
Jason Johnson wrote:
snipped
Mark,
It's still hard to believe that mercury (unless it was combined with a
medicine) would help treat any disorder or disease. I will take your word
that mercury (combined with huge amounts of water) can be used to treat at
least one disorder.
Like I said, it is homeopathic. The chances of you finding a molecule of
the mercury salt is nearly nil.

Oh, and dihydrogen monoxide is commonly called H2O. Water cures thirst.


It's been a while since we've seen someone who didn't catch that one.

Yeah, I know. However, it does happen. I recently nailed a spammer for a
juice by pointing out that the juice was loaded with chemicals. S/h/it
assured me that the juice was chemical free.




I also found out that health food stores actually sell
products that contain silver (silver sulfadiazine):
examples from a catalog published by Vitamin Research Products:
Silver Liquid--immune support--one-half teaspoon in one ouce of water once
a day.
Silver Nasal Formula--spray in nose several times per day.
Silver Optic Formula--two drops four times per day in eyes.
Silver is a topical antibacterial.


So are lemon juice, lime juice, rosemary essential oil, thyme essential
oil, etc. I'll stick with the ones I can make myself if I choose to,
thankyouverymuch!

The leftovers can be used for lemonade, limeade, etc.

Silver is used on some hospital equipment as a topical antibacterial.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
Do you believe that drops of silver (see above post Silver Optic
Formula) should be placed in the eyes of people. Would you place it in
your eyes? I would not.

AFAIAC, it has not been approved for such use. I would not use it.

In article , Mark Probert
wrote:

Jason Johnson wrote:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Thanks but someone else already told me about the website
that discussed Dihydrogen monoxide--it's rainwater.
I visited the site.
It the type of humor that children in grade school or
high school science class would really enjoy.
Does Mark think on that same level? I hope not.

Jason, you have got to lighten up a bit. From reading all of your posts,
you seem a tad obsessed with environmental "poisons". While there are
valid concerns, it is not an "all or nothing" situation.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Mark,
An even more important issue is that Israel is under attack. Most of the
Muslims in the Middle East want to bring about the destruction of Israel.
That's far more important than most of the issues discussed in posts. I
did not become offended by your mention of dihydorogen monoxide. I know
that you are an expert in diverting attention away from the central issue.
You discount studies that show that mercury and aluminum cause at least
some children to develop severe reactions. It's also possible that mercury
may cause autism. Don't discount any of the studies.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~