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Does anybody have any useful advice on how to collect a child support debt?
teachrmama wrote:
It looks like there are a lot of deadbeat supporters, enablers, and deadbeats on this usenet group. This particular thread is not for [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] Anyone who brings multiple children into the world with no intention of supporting them is outrageous--man or woman. Some crazy guy refered to child support as relying on the government, to me that means welfare. Child Support Enforcement is a government agency. So those who rely on child support via court order rely on the government to provide for them by collecting the money and sending it to them. If the stepson is living with the mothers that get P.A, and they are supporting him, then he too is living on P.A He's perfectly content doing that, and has a number of women who are happy to share with him. I guess my question should have been, "Why do you all care if a custodial parent tries to collect child support? Would you prefer they collect welfare, and if so, why?" Because I don't see what the big deal is. A non custodial parent is goinf to (a) pay the child support amount because it is thier responsibility to thier children. I am sure some Custodial parents use the money for other things, but if it is sent in good faith it is going to the child there shouldn't be a problem, especially if the father is around, because he will know. If it not being spent on the child, they can always go back to court. or (b) Just not pay the child support. Go duck and hide out, work under the table, leave the state, and just ignore the responsibility set fourth by the courts. What is the problem? -- Message posted via FamilyKB.com http://www.familykb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...nting/200710/1 |
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Does anybody have any useful advice on how to collect a child support debt?
teachrmama wrote:
It looks like there are a lot of deadbeat supporters, enablers, and deadbeats on this usenet group. This particular thread is not for [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] be me, but you sound paranoid. Huh? Where on earth did you come up with that? Where did *all custodial paents* come into this? From the guy that accused me of having cohorts. -- Message posted via FamilyKB.com http://www.familykb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...nting/200710/1 |
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Child-Support from the NCPs Perspective
teachrmama wrote:
"Paula" wrote "Gini" wrote: [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] you see fit, be a grown-up and extend that courtesy to others. Perhaps if everyone extended that courtesy to others, includiong the people from that that group that is snatching our posts, there would be fewer problems. But being told to "stick to my topic, and only give answers *I* consider to be positive" is way up there on the bossy scale. I don't think the site is stealing posts from you, rather google has branched out to join more people together that have matchilg key words or phrases to topics and groups already posted. -- Message posted via FamilyKB.com http://www.familykb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...nting/200710/1 |
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Does anybody have any useful advice on how to collect a child support debt?
teachrmama wrote:
"Illiana" u38194@uwe wrote in [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] does something creative. All he needs to do is come up out of the basement and involve himself. Oh, I see. You're an enabler--not meant as an insult. He really does not need to get off his tush and get a job because you are enabling him to keep being shiftless. And if Child Support Enforcement finally does get tired of the arrearages and throw his butt in jail, then the taxpayers will pick up the ball and support him. The best thing you could do for him (based on the few facts you have presented here) is to throw him out and let him fend for himself. Again, this is not an insult, but perhaps some counseling would not be amiss for you, to help you define some boundaries for yourself, rather than saddling yourself with his care and feeding as well as the care and feeding of your child (which is not a burden, but does take effort). Iattempted to have him removed from the home, but I inherited the house from my grandma and it was paid for, but I was foolish when I added his name to the deed, just in case something happened to me, so the family court judge said that he had equal right to be there. If I didn’t want to buy ½ of the home and that we should divide and live accordingly. Can you see why I have a hard time believing that the government is out to get non custodial parents when a judge told me that I can’t have my home completely? -- Message posted via FamilyKB.com http://www.familykb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...nting/200710/1 |
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Does anybody have any useful advice on how to collect a child support debt?
DB wrote:
"Paula" wrote in Show me one father that doesn't want involvement with their child? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] And the difference in your definitions are? A Father wantsto be with his children, he doesn't need laws to enforce this!!!!!! I think you mean any dad that wants to be with their children doesn't need a court order, and that is true. We are talking about men who have fathered children. Any man can be a father, it doesn’t take much to have sex, and procreate, but not all of them can be dads. I know you have heard that, but it is the truth. My dad was a great man, and family came first, even after he and my mum split. My mom had a child support order, and my dad didn't get mad, in fact he paid his child support AND provided my siblings and me with the extras. My mum did work, and her earnings went for rent, food, and other bills. She didn't have any habits and we always came first. My mum put those child support checks in the bank, and when we were adults she took the money, split it three ways, and gave it to us to start our own lives. Maybe you were done wrong, but your experience is not everybody's, same as mine. A dad is going to pay the child support because he loves his kids, and is willing to swallow some of his pride. -- Message posted via FamilyKB.com http://www.familykb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...nting/200710/1 |
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Does anybody have any useful advice on how to collect a child support debt?
teachrmama wrote:
"Illiana" u38194@uwe wrote ................. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] a two parent income, and as a human being, you should as well. Unfortunately, the children are not really the issue--they are just held up to be the issue. If children and their right to be supported by two parent incomes were really the issue, then you would see stay-at-home moms arrested all over the country for not providing an income for their child. You would also see custodial parents who do not work being arrested for not providing support. But the only ones who are dealt with harshly are NCPs. And the majority of the time the ones who are penalized are the ones who really *can't* pay the full amount due to exigent circumstances. But NCP and "deadbeat dad" have become almost synonymous in the public eye. (I could tell you horror stories on this one) It is obvious that you have no regard for the children in these situations. It makes me wonder why? How much do you or a partner have to pay an ex for child support, and why are you SO bitter about it? You are responding to a person who has never had a CS order, and who shared responsibility for her children with her ex without ever needing any sort of government intervention. Why would people not want to hear advice from someone who accomplished that? Just comply with the law and there isn't a problem, because there are a lot worse things out there than child support. You are never going to change your opinion, just as I will not change mine. Why argue, and be nasty? I will take the high road, and ignore your comments. Good day, Governess. Are you implying that she has broken the law? There are a number of people posting here now that seem to interpret the advice to "get a job and/or an education and become independent of the need for someone else to help support you" as being the same as "you don't deserve child support." Those are 2 very different things. No, just that there are worse things out there besides child support that can devastate a family. There are street gangs, violence, and murder. Then you have the people that are out to only hurt the children such as, but not limited to child molesters, rapists, murderers, and pedophiles. Why cry over a few bucks? Hell, we should all be happy if our children are not targeted by those kinds of people. There are a lot of things worse than having to pay child support. No disrespect intended, but if what you say about Gini is true, then she has no knowledge or experience about how child support works, or if the system is unfair or not. -- Message posted via FamilyKB.com http://www.familykb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...nting/200710/1 |
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Does anybody have any useful advice on how to collect a child support debt?
teachrmama wrote:
"Illiana" u38194@uwe wrote ................ [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] let alone be as rude and nasty as you are being! IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY HELPFUL ADVIDE TO GIVE JUST MOVE ON. The problem is that you seem to be the interpreter of what is and is not helpful advice. Why do you feel the need to exercise such power over total strangers whose issues you pour contempt on and don't even try to understand? I just don't think she has the right to be nasty with me. Nasty is not helpful. -- Message posted via http://www.familykb.com |
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Offsite Crossposting to alt.child-support from FamilyKB
DB wrote:
"Gini" wrote in ugh What a bunch o' crap. I'm going to filter them out. Many people already have! I see she has a whopping total of 3 people that have signed her petition to put all the dead beats in jail! LOL ---------------- If we make it harder on the non-custodial parents instead of the custodial parents it would save the courts and child support enforcement agencies alot of time and money. However when we just let these deadbeats get away with it time and time again they learn nothing happens to them so they dont care. So start enforcing these laws - start putting these bums in jail - make it hard on them stop playing games with them - these are kids we are trying to feed - we are not playing make believe - we are trying to raise real kids, not babydolls. Enforce this law in all counties of Maryland. I live in Anne Arundel County If you are not a deadbeat you should not take offense. -- Message posted via FamilyKB.com http://www.familykb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...nting/200710/1 |
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Does anybody have any useful advice on how to collect a child support debt?
Shadow36 wrote:
It looks like there are a lot of deadbeat supporters, enablers, and deadbeats on this usenet group. This particular thread is not for [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] be me, but you sound paranoid. I never said anything of the sort. Do you have a comprehension problem? Your little web site that you post on Is cross posting to the usenet group alt.child-support, and It should not be. Is that simple enough for you? Do you understand now? Yes you did, so do not deny it. -- Message posted via FamilyKB.com http://www.familykb.com/Uwe/Forums.a...nting/200710/1 |
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Does anybody have any useful advice on how to collect a childsupport debt?
Illiana via FamilyKB.com wrote:
teachrmama wrote: It looks like there are a lot of deadbeat supporters, enablers, and deadbeats on this usenet group. This particular thread is not for [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] It is a parenting group (Group Name Parenting Parenting), I'm certainly not posting to that group--your posts are coming to the group I am posting to. Well I am sorry about that, but I am not the one who is in charge of the web domain, and I don’t have control as to where the thread will be posted. yes you do. it has been explained to you. just stop posting at that website. It’s nice to know that at least one person with opposite views on child support did not find a need to be blatantly nasty, and bossy. Why would the Gini identity tell me I had to leave, and she was here first? Is she like some type of psycho that thinks she is the only person with the right to post an opposite view? -- Sarah Gray |
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