protective order scam

Greegor wrote:
Greegor wrote:
Exhibit A. Direct question
Kane wrote You advised someone to commit a crime? No?

Exhibit B. Direct and complete answer
Greg wrote No. It already existed when she asked for help.

Exhibit C. Characterization of Exhibit B.
Kane wrote You are dodging. That is not the issue...when?

Exhibit D. Attempt to change what "the issue" is
Kane wrote
The issue is that you advised her to use that crime to
challenge the court in the middle of a child protection case.

Kane wrote (About Exhibit D.)
Absolutely. This IS the issue.
Then how do you explain your exact words in Exhibit A?
How do you explain your attempt to change "the issue"
between Exhibit A and Exhibit D?


Greg you can't, because of your limited capabilities, properly debate
an issue here or in Court or in a Motion to the Court.

The last five years and ten months are a testament to that fact.

Just a suggestion, but the next time you jump into a dumpster for the
bottles and cans... do the world a favor and stay there.

Dan, You say I am incapable of debate. Then all you do is ad hominem.

Short on dazzling logic?

Did you miss this part?

"Greg you can't, because of your limited capabilities, properly debate
an issue here or in Court or in a Motion to the Court.

The last five years and ten months are a testament to that fact."

He is pointing YOU don't debate. That IS a valid topic OF debate.

And elegantly logical.

You have done nothing but dodge, not debate. The opponent's (us)
challenge has been made. The suspect perp, YOU, have refused to answer
the challenges made.

What more is their to do but remind you of it until you do answer, or
you simply go on with dodges like the above?

No, Greg, the lab rat, there IS no way out of this one.

Every thread with you in it is fair game for restating the challenge,
and pointing out you have dodged yet again.

Every subject other than two, at this point, the proof of your
accusation of a "computer felony" and the proof that telling someone to
challenge the court by admitting to a crime in the course of a child
welfare trial, a CIVIL trial at that, is a valid way for someone to get
their children back.

Show us a single instance, ONE instance, where someone committed a crime
and did in fact thereby get their children back from CPS.

And when you sort all this out, if you ever do, lame of brain, consider
apologizing to Brian and Ruth for the havoc YOUR buddies ran on them and
their children.

"Brain should have pulled the trigger." Remember? And remember your
argument with the cop that objected to the use of lethal force?

Answer the challenges Greg. Or run.

You are just another thug only too cowardly to act....like your coward
friends you want others to be your lab rats and then when they lose,
your excuse for yourself because "CPS is evil."

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Greegor wrote:
Dan Sullivan wrote:
Dan, You say I am incapable of debate. Then all you do is ad hominem.

Greg wrote Short on dazzling logic?

Dan wrote
Not at all.

You must have overlooked this the first time.

Greg you can't, because of your limited capabilities, properly debate
an issue here or in Court or in a Motion to the Court.

The last five years and ten months are a testament to that fact.

Please try to rescue Kane from this one!
Show us your masterful logic!
Kane got caught between Exhibit A, Exhibit D and comments about
Exhibiut D.

Can you argue without ad hom (arguing to the man)?

Show us how you dazzle those caseworkers with logic, Dan!

Greegor wrote:
Exhibit A. Direct question
Kane wrote You advised someone to commit a crime? No?

Exhibit B. Direct and complete answer
Greg wrote No. It already existed when she asked for help.

Exhibit C. Characterization of Exhibit B.
Kane wrote You are dodging. That is not the issue...when?

Exhibit D. Attempt to change what "the issue" is
Kane wrote
The issue is that you advised her to use that crime to
challenge the court in the middle of a child protection case.

Kane wrote (About Exhibit D.)
Absolutely. This IS the issue.

Greg wrote
Then how do you explain your exact words in Exhibit A?
How do you explain your attempt to change "the issue"
between Exhibit A and Exhibit D?


You want to be careful about trying to use an "Exact words" argument
Greg. Next time I might not be so generous in excusing your exact words,
and allow you explain what you meant...and that it didn't mean you
believed in the use of lethal force against caseworkers.

It's not a "change." It's an explanation of what I meant. Just as you
were allowed to say you had NOT meant to mean lethal force was
okay...after I asked for over two years before you finally got the message.

How can you explain that you still refuse to answer the actual
challenge, other than by a sick little dodge, that you told someone to
take a chance getting arrested on criminal charges during a civil trial
and risk losing her children?

Any time now, Greg.

Or run again. Up to you.

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Kane wrote
And when you sort all this out, if you ever do, lame of brain, consider
apologizing to Brian and Ruth for the havoc YOUR buddies ran on them and
their children.

My buddies? Who exactly are you referring to?
You're blaming me for something "my buddies" said??
About an incident from YEARS ago?

"Brain should have pulled the trigger." Remember?

Is THAT what you said?

And remember your
argument with the cop that objected to the use of lethal force?

You're quoting it wrong.

What was the FAKE cops name? "Oliver Sutton"??

"Greegor" wrote in message
oups.com...
Kane wrote
And when you sort all this out, if you ever do, lame of brain, consider
apologizing to Brian and Ruth for the havoc YOUR buddies ran on them and
their children.

Only the lame of brain believe citizens influenced this decision. It's not
citizens but Federal Agencies who have a history of inciting violence.

The Christine's case was most certainly instigated to violence by Agents not
citizens.

George Truro wrote:
"Greegor" wrote in message
oups.com...
Kane wrote
And when you sort all this out, if you ever do, lame of brain, consider
apologizing to Brian and Ruth for the havoc YOUR buddies ran on them and
their children.

Only the lame of brain believe citizens influenced this decision. It's not
citizens but Federal Agencies who have a history of inciting violence.

The Christine's case was most certainly instigated to violence by Agents not
citizens.

Then you'd be one of those Oregon buddies of the Christines that incited
Brian to point a gun at his children. Isn't that right?

If you think he didn't, you don't know a damn thing about handguns and
field of fire in a shootout even at close range.

Brian was stupid, his ONLY failing, really, and did things he shouldn't
have that resulted in both abuse and dangerous medical neglect. He and
Ruth were given EVERY chance to work out a plan for the return of their
children, but all along the way, even from prior to the first removal of
their children, YOU ****ants advised him to do things that were
motivated by your desire to have the misery company loves so much, and
to be lab rats for your failed political and personal agendas.

Stick your lies back up your ass, stupid.

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"0:-" wrote in message
news9WdnbpCBZ86W8TYnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d@scnresearch. com...
George Truro wrote:
"Greegor" wrote in message
oups.com...
Kane wrote
And when you sort all this out, if you ever do, lame of brain, consider
apologizing to Brian and Ruth for the havoc YOUR buddies ran on them
and
their children.

Only the lame of brain believe citizens influenced this decision. It's
not citizens but Federal Agencies who have a history of inciting
violence.

The Christine's case was most certainly instigated to violence by Agents
not citizens.

Then you'd be one of those Oregon buddies of the Christines that incited
Brian to point a gun at his children. Isn't that right?

If you think he didn't, you don't know a damn thing about handguns and
field of fire in a shootout even at close range.

You're not too ****in bright are ya Butch?? And your reading comprehension
needs some work too.

Wanna try again. Go back and start all over?

Ok - It was Federal Agents that instigated ther Cristine fiasco -

Can I be any clearer??




Brian was stupid, his ONLY failing, really, and did things he shouldn't
have that resulted in both abuse and dangerous medical neglect. He and
Ruth were given EVERY chance to work out a plan for the return of their
children, but all along the way, even from prior to the first removal of
their children, YOU ****ants advised him to do things that were motivated
by your desire to have the misery company loves so much, and to be lab
rats for your failed political and personal agendas.

Stick your lies back up your ass, stupid.

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George Truro wrote:
"0:-" wrote in message
news9WdnbpCBZ86W8TYnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d@scnresearch. com...
George Truro wrote:
"Greegor" wrote in message
oups.com...
Kane wrote
And when you sort all this out, if you ever do, lame of brain, consider
apologizing to Brian and Ruth for the havoc YOUR buddies ran on them
and
their children.

Only the lame of brain believe citizens influenced this decision. It's
not citizens but Federal Agencies who have a history of inciting
violence.

The Christine's case was most certainly instigated to violence by Agents
not citizens.

Then you'd be one of those Oregon buddies of the Christines that incited
Brian to point a gun at his children. Isn't that right?

If you think he didn't, you don't know a damn thing about handguns and
field of fire in a shootout even at close range.

You're not too ****in bright are ya Butch?? And your reading comprehension
needs some work too.

Wanna try again. Go back and start all over?

Ok - It was Federal Agents that instigated ther Cristine fiasco -

Federal agents? From what federal agency, and could you provide some
supporting evidence, by link please?

Can I be any clearer??

Yes.

As it is you are blowing way too much smoke out your ass and none of us
are interested in it going up ours.

But you once again, Troll, have given us the opportunity to bring more
clarity to the Christine case and just WHO the real perps were in
causing them to make the errors they did.

Were I one of you ****ants, when Brian gets out, I'd be hittin' the
highroad, because I think he's very intelligent, and with enough time
to think...as he has...he'll figure out just who LAB RATTED HIM.

Run suckers, run.

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Brian was stupid, his ONLY failing, really, and did things he shouldn't
have that resulted in both abuse and dangerous medical neglect. He and
Ruth were given EVERY chance to work out a plan for the return of their
children, but all along the way, even from prior to the first removal of
their children, YOU ****ants advised him to do things that were motivated
by your desire to have the misery company loves so much, and to be lab
rats for your failed political and personal agendas.

Stick your lies back up your ass, stupid.

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"0:-" wrote in message
ups.com...

George Truro wrote:
"0:-" wrote in message
news9WdnbpCBZ86W8TYnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d@scnresearch. com...
George Truro wrote:
"Greegor" wrote in message
oups.com...
Kane wrote
And when you sort all this out, if you ever do, lame of brain,
consider
apologizing to Brian and Ruth for the havoc YOUR buddies ran on them
and
their children.

Only the lame of brain believe citizens influenced this decision.
It's
not citizens but Federal Agencies who have a history of inciting
violence.

The Christine's case was most certainly instigated to violence by
Agents
not citizens.

Then you'd be one of those Oregon buddies of the Christines that
incited
Brian to point a gun at his children. Isn't that right?

If you think he didn't, you don't know a damn thing about handguns and
field of fire in a shootout even at close range.

You're not too ****in bright are ya Butch?? And your reading
comprehension
needs some work too.

Wanna try again. Go back and start all over?

Ok - It was Federal Agents that instigated ther Cristine fiasco -

Federal agents? From what federal agency, and could you provide some
supporting evidence, by link please?

You've accused Greg and his 'buddies' of instigating violence.

You provide some proof.

Or are you falsely accusing again.

The great NW has 2 agents for every citizen - folks flocking there to join
these anti-gov groups are about as dim as dim can be - there are no anti-gov
groups in the NW that aren't run by the Feds!!

FBI agents and/or imformants instigated Brian to violence he would never
have committed without theirinstigation.


Can I be any clearer??

Yes.

As it is you are blowing way too much smoke out your ass and none of us
are interested in it going up ours.

But you once again, Troll, have given us the opportunity to bring more
clarity to the Christine case and just WHO the real perps were in
causing them to make the errors they did.

Were I one of you ****ants, when Brian gets out, I'd be hittin' the
highroad, because I think he's very intelligent, and with enough time
to think...as he has...he'll figure out just who LAB RATTED HIM.

Run suckers, run.

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Brian was stupid, his ONLY failing, really, and did things he shouldn't
have that resulted in both abuse and dangerous medical neglect. He and
Ruth were given EVERY chance to work out a plan for the return of their
children, but all along the way, even from prior to the first removal
of
their children, YOU ****ants advised him to do things that were
motivated
by your desire to have the misery company loves so much, and to be lab
rats for your failed political and personal agendas.

Stick your lies back up your ass, stupid.

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George Truro wrote:
"0:-" wrote in message
ups.com...
George Truro wrote:
"0:-" wrote in message
news9WdnbpCBZ86W8TYnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d@scnresearch. com...
George Truro wrote:
"Greegor" wrote in message
oups.com...
Kane wrote
And when you sort all this out, if you ever do, lame of brain,
consider
apologizing to Brian and Ruth for the havoc YOUR buddies ran on them
and
their children.
Only the lame of brain believe citizens influenced this decision.
It's
not citizens but Federal Agencies who have a history of inciting
violence.

The Christine's case was most certainly instigated to violence by
Agents
not citizens.
Then you'd be one of those Oregon buddies of the Christines that
incited
Brian to point a gun at his children. Isn't that right?

If you think he didn't, you don't know a damn thing about handguns and
field of fire in a shootout even at close range.
You're not too ****in bright are ya Butch?? And your reading
comprehension
needs some work too.

Wanna try again. Go back and start all over?

Ok - It was Federal Agents that instigated ther Cristine fiasco -
Federal agents? From what federal agency, and could you provide some
supporting evidence, by link please?

You've accused Greg and his 'buddies' of instigating violence.

Yep.


You provide some proof.

Nope. It was in the news. Likely archived in media morgues by now and
requiring paid subscriptions to access.

Those that followed the story know the truth.

Brian didn't get the idea of using a gun all by his little lonesome.

Or are you falsely accusing again.

Never have, stupid.

The great NW has 2 agents for every citizen - folks flocking there to join
these anti-gov groups are about as dim as dim can be - there are no anti-gov
groups in the NW that aren't run by the Feds!!

You seem to be a nice honest fellow that requires proof. How about you
provide some?

FBI agents and/or imformants instigated Brian to violence he would never
have committed without theirinstigation.

Identify them please, with proof.

As you've said, you are just a troll, so your word is useless. Trolls
will say what they will to get attention, being frustrated narcissists
in the real world, where they are afraid to babble their mindless
attention getting bull****.



Can I be any clearer??
Yes.

As it is you are blowing way too much smoke out your ass and none of us
are interested in it going up ours.

But you once again, Troll, have given us the opportunity to bring more
clarity to the Christine case and just WHO the real perps were in
causing them to make the errors they did.

Were I one of you ****ants, when Brian gets out, I'd be hittin' the
highroad, because I think he's very intelligent, and with enough time
to think...as he has...he'll figure out just who LAB RATTED HIM.

Like I said,


Run suckers, run.

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And thanks once MORE, troll. You like having your little leash jerked on
do you? R R R R R R R ... you are mine, stupid. All mine, and I'll use
you every time you post here. Fancy that, eh?

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Brian was stupid, his ONLY failing, really, and did things he shouldn't
have that resulted in both abuse and dangerous medical neglect. He and
Ruth were given EVERY chance to work out a plan for the return of their
children, but all along the way, even from prior to the first removal
of
their children, YOU ****ants advised him to do things that were
motivated
by your desire to have the misery company loves so much, and to be lab
rats for your failed political and personal agendas.

Stick your lies back up your ass, stupid.

0:-

"0:-" wrote in message
...
George Truro wrote:
"0:-" wrote in message
ups.com...
George Truro wrote:
"0:-" wrote in message
news9WdnbpCBZ86W8TYnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d@scnresearch. com...
George Truro wrote:
"Greegor" wrote in message
oups.com...
Kane wrote
And when you sort all this out, if you ever do, lame of brain,
consider
apologizing to Brian and Ruth for the havoc YOUR buddies ran on
them
and
their children.
Only the lame of brain believe citizens influenced this decision.
It's
not citizens but Federal Agencies who have a history of inciting
violence.

The Christine's case was most certainly instigated to violence by
Agents
not citizens.
Then you'd be one of those Oregon buddies of the Christines that
incited
Brian to point a gun at his children. Isn't that right?

If you think he didn't, you don't know a damn thing about handguns and
field of fire in a shootout even at close range.
You're not too ****in bright are ya Butch?? And your reading
comprehension
needs some work too.

Wanna try again. Go back and start all over?

Ok - It was Federal Agents that instigated ther Cristine fiasco -
Federal agents? From what federal agency, and could you provide some
supporting evidence, by link please?

You've accused Greg and his 'buddies' of instigating violence.

Yep.


You provide some proof.

Nope. It was in the news. Likely archived in media morgues by now and
requiring paid subscriptions to access.

You are a liar. Greg Hanson never appeared in news stories about Brian and
Ruth.


Those that followed the story know the truth.

I followed the story - and I know you are a liar making false accusations -
just as CPS trained you.


Brian didn't get the idea of using a gun all by his little lonesome.

Your delusions that you can read peoples minds and know their thoughts and
motives just shows how desperate you are to make **** up and blame it on
someone.


Or are you falsely accusing again.

Never have, stupid.

Of course you are - Greg had no part in Brian and Ruths case. Your
accusations and insinuations are false. False accusations - the same kind
you used to destroy folks when you worked for CPS.


The great NW has 2 agents for every citizen - folks flocking there to
join these anti-gov groups are about as dim as dim can be - there are no
anti-gov groups in the NW that aren't run by the Feds!!

You seem to be a nice honest fellow that requires proof. How about you
provide some?

Its been archived. I've posted it here numerous times. That CPS slime like
you ignore the proof - its not my responsibility. You got a keyboard - look
it up.


FBI agents and/or imformants instigated Brian to violence he would never
have committed without theirinstigation.

Identify them please, with proof.

The video and audio is still secret - as soon as we determine it safe for
assholes like you to review I'll drop you an email.


As you've said, you are just a troll, so your word is useless. Trolls will
say what they will to get attention, being frustrated narcissists in the
real world, where they are afraid to babble their mindless attention
getting bull****.

I've provided as much as you - so if it's true of me, it's true of you.




Can I be any clearer??
Yes.

As it is you are blowing way too much smoke out your ass and none of us
are interested in it going up ours.

But you once again, Troll, have given us the opportunity to bring more
clarity to the Christine case and just WHO the real perps were in
causing them to make the errors they did.

Were I one of you ****ants, when Brian gets out, I'd be hittin' the
highroad, because I think he's very intelligent, and with enough time
to think...as he has...he'll figure out just who LAB RATTED HIM.

Like I said,


Run suckers, run.

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And thanks once MORE, troll. You like having your little leash jerked on
do you? R R R R R R R ... you are mine, stupid. All mine, and I'll use you
every time you post here. Fancy that, eh?

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Brian was stupid, his ONLY failing, really, and did things he
shouldn't
have that resulted in both abuse and dangerous medical neglect. He and
Ruth were given EVERY chance to work out a plan for the return of
their
children, but all along the way, even from prior to the first removal
of
their children, YOU ****ants advised him to do things that were
motivated
by your desire to have the misery company loves so much, and to be lab
rats for your failed political and personal agendas.

Stick your lies back up your ass, stupid.

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