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Old March 1st 04, 04:15 AM
Ralph DuBose
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"V" wrote in message ...
I know alot of empowering young women and girlpower and I have read many
periodicals and books on the subject.
Now, I am searching for empowering young men and boypower. The search is very
skim. I have read, Bad Boys and Raising Boys, but there is just not as much
out there on this subject as far as programs to help boys, besides YMCA.
I know there is boy scouts and girl scouts, etc, but they are something that
is not close by in our area.
I am going to be getting some ideas together to begin a program within the
school system that empowers our young men. I have been reading a lot of stuff
to present to some rape crisis volunteers on the history of rape. This is what
got me to think about how men are raised to commit such a horrible act.
Then I think of their home life, etc. and it is a serious factor?
What do you guys think?
I will be going to school (senior highs) and speaking to young women about
rape prevention, but just what can I tell the boys?
Sorry about the long rant.
Thanks.


It is important to keep in mind thar guys/boys often will exert
themselves in extreme ways for the sake of being able to maintain
their own self respect. But if they are told straight-out in advance
that they are all regarded as potential rapists; scum until proven
otherwise, and that young women are saints until proven otherwise, you
will have blown it.
Very few young men are rapists in waiting. If you address the bulk
of them as if they are you will have lost all influence with them.
V
The teacher will appear when the pupil is ready.

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Old March 1st 04, 05:31 AM
V
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"Ralph DuBose" wrote in message
om...
"V" wrote in message

...
I know alot of empowering young women and girlpower and I have read many
periodicals and books on the subject.
Now, I am searching for empowering young men and boypower. The search is

very
skim. I have read, Bad Boys and Raising Boys, but there is just not as

much
out there on this subject as far as programs to help boys, besides YMCA.
I know there is boy scouts and girl scouts, etc, but they are something

that
is not close by in our area.
I am going to be getting some ideas together to begin a program within the
school system that empowers our young men. I have been reading a lot of

stuff
to present to some rape crisis volunteers on the history of rape. This is

what
got me to think about how men are raised to commit such a horrible act.
Then I think of their home life, etc. and it is a serious factor?
What do you guys think?
I will be going to school (senior highs) and speaking to young women about
rape prevention, but just what can I tell the boys?
Sorry about the long rant.
Thanks.


It is important to keep in mind thar guys/boys often will exert
themselves in extreme ways for the sake of being able to maintain
their own self respect. But if they are told straight-out in advance
that they are all regarded as potential rapists; scum until proven
otherwise, and that young women are saints until proven otherwise, you
will have blown it.
Very few young men are rapists in waiting. If you address the bulk
of them as if they are you will have lost all influence with them.
V
The teacher will appear when the pupil is ready.


Good point Ralph. Most men are not. I will keep this point in mind. Thanks.
V


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Old March 1st 04, 06:24 AM
Paul Fritz
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"sg34" wrote in message
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"Bebe lestrnge" wrote in message
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Empowering boys

Group: alt.support.single-parents Date: Sun, Feb 29, 2004, 1:31am
(EST+5) From: (V)

V wrote;
I know alot of empowering young women and girlpower and I have read

many
periodicals and books on the subject.
Now, I am searching for empowering young men and boypower. The search

is
very skim. I have read, Bad Boys and Raising Boys, but there is just

not
as much out there on this subject as far as programs to help boys,
besides YMCA. I know there is boy scouts and girl scouts, etc, but

they
are something that is not close by in our area.

B wrote:
Maybe a "Big Brothers " Program ?

V wrote;
I am going to be getting some ideas together to begin a program within
the school system that empowers our young men.

B wrote;
Great Idea!

V wrote:
I have been reading a lot of stuff to present to some rape crisis
volunteers on the history of rape. This is what got me to think about
how men are raised to commit such a horrible act. Then I think of

their
home life, etc. and it is a serious factor? What do you guys think?


B wrote:
This makes me think of how horrible a childs life must be to be raised
with such a disposition? I know a lot of the act of rape is about the
"power and control" and not the actual sexual gratification. I have
heard and read that these men/boys grow up with a hatred of women or a
particular woman (Mother) . I do see how poor parenting could create
this behavior, but sometimes a sick mind is just a sick mind and there
was no reason for it , no one to blame...........

V wrote:
I will be going to school (senior highs) and speaking to young women
about rape prevention, but just what can I tell the boys? Sorry about
the long rant.
Thanks.

B wrote:
To seek out professional help if they think it is o.k. to violate and
cause such pain suffering and harm to another human being? That "NO"
means "NO" and forcing beyond that point is wrong, a violent act, that
is not O.K. ever. I am thinking good moral values are indeed taught at
home, unfortunately many young men and women grow up without the
needed guidance. Many fall through the cracks .
Maybe telling the boys exactly what being raped feels like to a woman

,
how it destroys both body and mind and the struggle involved with
healing from such a despicable act. (touchy subject)
Bev

V
The teacher will appear when the pupil is ready.


Rape, unfortunately can happen to boys too. Also you have to look at

the
controversy in the Catholic Church and think about all the young boys

that
were molested. The church finally admitted it, acknowledged it.

Hopefully
it won't be pushed under the rug anymore.

My relative was molested by his uncle when he was a little boy, and he

had
repressed this memory until he was in his 60'd. I can't imagine holding

it
in for so long.

Best of luck in empowering boys! It'll help them become better fathers,
uncles, cousins and sons.



Young boys can also be raped by women, and unfortunately, when those
criminals become pregnant and give birth, the courts have deemed it just to
rape those same victims by assessing child support too.



sg





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Old March 1st 04, 07:13 AM
connor_a
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"V" wrote in message ...
This is what
got me to think about how men are raised to commit such a horrible act.
Then I think of their home life, etc. and it is a serious factor?
What do you guys think?


And the 'great' thing is, women socialise their SONS who end up raping
in the process.
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Old March 1st 04, 01:19 PM
The Mighty Quenelle
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"sg34" wrote in message ...


Rape, unfortunately can happen to boys too.


Yes indeed. What's rape today?
Drunk people having sex or people having sex and regret it later?
It happens to man too. Except that no woman is send to jail for such a
ridiculous crime
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Old March 1st 04, 02:56 PM
P.Fritz
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Last time I looked, it wasn't just 'men' sitting on the bench.

And before you bring up the strawman 'men make up most of the legislature'
arguement........women are the voting majority.

'Kate wrote in message ...
On Mon, 1 Mar 2004 00:24:29 -0500, "Paul Fritz"


Young boys can also be raped by women, and unfortunately, when those
criminals become pregnant and give birth, the courts have deemed it just

to
rape those same victims by assessing child support too.


Too bad other men, the ones in charge of courts, don't see that as
punishable by law, huh?

'Kate



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Old March 1st 04, 03:55 PM
Joelle
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I have a feeling that the 1 out of 6 is a phony statistic......


Right. People's personal experiences are not relevent to discussions, but your
"feelings" are.

Joelle
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Augustine
Joelle
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Old March 1st 04, 04:22 PM
P.Fritz
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Personal experiences doesn't alter statistical relevance, (as much as you'd
like it to) but it is very easy to generate a phony statistic by repeating a
lie long enough, or misconstruing data. I saw some stats that showed
somewhere between 3 and 5 % of men had been sexually assualted AND that 1 in
6 had occurred prior to the age of 16........it is easy to see how that
might have become what the OP posted, hence my 'feeling' If you have
information differently, please post it. Next time you might want to think
a little more before trying to flame.




"Joelle" wrote in message
...
I have a feeling that the 1 out of 6 is a phony statistic......


Right. People's personal experiences are not relevent to discussions, but

your
"feelings" are.

Joelle
The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St
Augustine
Joelle



 




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