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Old November 20th 04, 12:19 AM
Bebelestrnge0721
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Subject: For those that care to know
From: "Tiffany"
Date: 11/19/2004 10:11 AM Eastern Standard Time
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Subject: For those that care to know
From: "Tiffany"

Date: 11/18/2004 8:50 PM Eastern Standard Time
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Subject: For those that care to know
From:
(Karen O'Mara)
Date: 11/18/2004 12:25 PM Eastern Standard Time
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(Bebelestrnge0721) wrote in message
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My daughter has mantained residential custody of her baby.The judge
refused
the
emergency petition for the father to take the baby from our home. My
daughter
has admitted to the judge she has made bad choices and mistakes since
the
father left her, and admits he has continually emotionally abused her
,
adding
to the severity of her mental and emotional health, and that she has
never
and
will never do anything to hurt her child . Our behavioral therapist
supported
her in court, that she has been working with our family for three
years
and
our
home is a safe nurturing environment for the baby. As I have known in
my
heart
to be the truth as well. There will still be a custody conference
(arbitration
hearing) in mid January.Hopfully My daughter and her ex can agree upon
something that works for the both of them at that time. Meanwhile my
granddaughter slept snug as a bug in her nursery last night ! I am
happy
that
this has helped reasure my daughter that she is not a bad mom and that
she
can
and will be o.k. Thank you to everyone that listened and showed
support
to
our
family. Bev

Keep us posted. I have been thinking about you. I hope the father of
the baby will remain sincere and help out and I hope your daughter
seizes the opportunities to be the best mother she can be. You hang in
there, too. You are a very caring person and probably a target because
of that.

Karen


Thanks Karen, I would love nothing more than for them both to get thier
heads
outta their butts, and do what is right for the baby. I can only respond
to
what I see from each of them , I have seen my daughter struggling while
he
runs
around in his 2000 car with light effects and a stereo system you can
hear
down
the block with his friends and girlfriends( three) since the breakup,
while
claiming he can not afford to buy shoes for his child? He bailed and
left
her
holding all the emotional and financial support of this baby. It is what
happens most of the time with teenage boys that make babies, He is just
a
heat
seeking missile and my daughter got burnt.


Bev that is the most sexist thing I have heard in sometime. You should be
ashamed of yourself for putting all the blame on the boy for the
pregnancy!


Tiff holy macaroni ! I didn't mean that that is for sure .As a matter of
fact
"THEY" got pregnant on purpose remember ? I have never felt this pregnancy
was
his fault alone and that is not what I said in this post ?


Your daughter should have been thinking of HERSELF and been on a form of
birthcontrol or insisted he use a condom. Yeah, yeah, I know nothing is
100%
percent and I just bet she used something and it didn't work. Regardless,
it
is NOT just his fault. She had sex too.




I know ! If you read back I was ranting that HE is the one running around
in
the 2000, all spruced up car, that he got after he left his daughter , and
he
claims he can not afford 25 bucks a week to help my daughter financially
suport
HIS child. As it has been he has a free babysitter huh ? I am not sexist ,
I am
the mother of a teen with a baby and you bet I am gonna be upset with this
boys
actions concerning taking care of his child, that is what this thread was
about
not who's fault the pregnancy happened? So what part of what I typed is
giving
that impression that I am blaming him and a sexist?
Bev
T






"He bailed and left her holding all the emotional and financial support of
this baby. It is what
happens most of the time with teenage boys that make babies, He is just a
heat seeking missile and my daughter got burnt."


O.k. so I see that you could take that as picking on the male gender, It's just
such a damn epidemic in this town we live in. Seems all the teen girls are
pregnant, some with the same father to thier babies and the boys are swarming
all over NOT taking responsibility . So yeah I am mad.


First off...... maybe he was treated wrongly and left the situation to end
that. Sounds to me no matter what you say, you have issues with this boy and
probably did from the start. See, we don't have his side of the story but
that sentence is a good indication of how you feel about 'teenage boys'.


I liked him very much and grew to care very much for him , he and my daughter
went out for two years before the baby and were engaged last christmas, I am
actually shocked by the turn of events that have led us to all the pain we all
feel . I don't have any more of a problem with him than I would have with
anyone treating thier children this way.

Did your daughter ever sit back and think about why he left her? Maybe as
she matures, she will.


Yes she has and yes she knows he was as tired of the fighting as she was.
Leaving her may have been an emotional issue for my daughter yes.........his
lack of want to spend time with his baby or help support the baby is the issue
left to address.


Second, a lot of teenage mothers bail too. They push the baby off on
Grandma's.


Yep, this is true, my rant was influenced by the way I feel about this teenage
boy, the father of my grand daughter, I am dissapointed in him yes.
Bev
T


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Old November 20th 04, 03:29 AM
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"Joelle" wrote in message
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Hi, this is the Nazi coming out of lurking simply to say to Paul..

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I used to be called a feminazi. Is there a difference? ::sly grin::
I miss your nazi self. How have you been?
Glad you came out of lurkdom.
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Old November 20th 04, 05:34 AM
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I used to be called a feminazi. Is there a difference

No, I got that designation from the so-called "liberal" side.

Joelle
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Augustine
Joelle
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Old November 20th 04, 02:23 PM
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"Joelle" wrote in message
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I used to be called a feminazi. Is there a difference


No, I got that designation from the so-called "liberal" side.

Joelle
The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St
Augustine
Joelle



Liberal should mean that you understand others, not belittle them for their
conservative thoughts. Some liberals are pushy and basically scary to be
around. hee hee
Just my opinion, though. You are keen and give good advice, even when it is
not what one wants to hear. We need all kinds to make the world go around,
don't we?
Well, hope you post more. You have been missed!
V


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Old November 20th 04, 05:23 PM
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Liberal should mean that you understand others, not belittle them for their
conservative thoughts


Actually I consider myself a liberal in the classic sense of the word, but I
think there is enough intolerance to go around, learning how to debate an idea,
attacking an idea, not a person (or their profession), is something many people
seem to have a problem with, regardless of their label.

Joelle
The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St
Augustine
Joelle
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Old November 21st 04, 05:05 AM
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"Joelle" wrote in message
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Liberal should mean that you understand others, not belittle them for their
conservative thoughts


Actually I consider myself a liberal in the classic sense of the word, but I
think there is enough intolerance to go around, learning how to debate an

idea,
attacking an idea, not a person (or their profession), is something many

people
seem to have a problem with, regardless of their label.

Joelle
The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St
Augustine
Joelle


You are very right.
V


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Old November 22nd 04, 09:18 AM
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"Joelle" wrote in message
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I used to be called a feminazi. Is there a difference


No, I got that designation from the so-called "liberal" side.

Joelle
The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St
Augustine
Joelle


Glad to see you're back, but why the **** were you lurking? What did I
miss?

Christine


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Old November 22nd 04, 01:49 PM
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"CME" wrote in message
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"Joelle" wrote in message
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I used to be called a feminazi. Is there a difference


No, I got that designation from the so-called "liberal" side.

Joelle
The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St
Augustine
Joelle


Glad to see you're back, but why the **** were you lurking? What did I
miss?

Christine



Christine:
Why the language?
V


 




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