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Old July 9th 07, 08:17 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids,misc.kids.health,misc.kids.pregnancy
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"Jan Drew" wrote:


"Richard Schultz" wrote in message
...
In misc.health.alternative bigvince wrote:
: On Jul 5, 12:35 pm, (Richard Schultz) wrote:
: In misc.health.alternative JOHN wrote:

: : "By this process chlorocarbons such as sucralose deliver chlorine
directly
: : into our cells through normal metabolization. This makes them
effective
: : insecticides and preservatives. Preservatives must kill anything
alive to
: : prevent bacterial decomposition."

: Someone should ask Dr. Bowen how he reconciles his belief that sugar
: and salt are acceptable dietary components with their historical
: use as food preservatives.

: As you know aspartame another chlorocarbon. . .

Try again, but this time (a) answer the point that was raised and
(b) without incorrectly referring to aspartame as a "chlorocarbon" (it
isn't; it's a methyl ester of a dipeptide)


A bit of a control problem?

Posters can answer without instructions.

http://www.quantumbalancing.com/news/splenda.htm

The Lethal Science Of Splenda - A Poisonous Chlorocarbon


See that, Jan? It's Splenda which is a chlorocarbon, not aspartame.
Now apologise to Richard.

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Old July 9th 07, 08:51 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids,misc.kids.health,misc.kids.pregnancy
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"Richard Schultz" wrote in message
...
In misc.health.alternative bigvince wrote:
: On Jul 5, 12:35 pm, (Richard Schultz) wrote:
: In misc.health.alternative JOHN wrote:

: : "By this process chlorocarbons such as sucralose deliver chlorine
directly
: : into our cells through normal metabolization. This makes them
effective
: : insecticides and preservatives. Preservatives must kill anything
alive to
: : prevent bacterial decomposition."

: Someone should ask Dr. Bowen how he reconciles his belief that sugar
: and salt are acceptable dietary components with their historical
: use as food preservatives.

: As you know aspartame another chlorocarbon. . .

Try again, but this time (a) answer the point that was raised and
(b) without incorrectly referring to aspartame as a "chlorocarbon" (it
isn't; it's a methyl ester of a dipeptide)


A bit of a control problem?

Posters can answer without instructions.

http://www.quantumbalancing.com/news/splenda.htm

The Lethal Science Of Splenda - A Poisonous Chlorocarbon

From Dr. Betty Martini, D.Hum By James Bowen, M.D.
5-8-5

James Bowen, M.D., A physician, biochemist, and survivor of aspartame
poisoning warns about yet another synthetic sweetener, Splenda.

HAWAII -- The chemical sucralose, marketed as "Splenda", has replaced
aspartame as the #1 artificial sweetener in foods and beverages. Aspartame
has been forced out by increasing public awareness that it is both a
neurotoxin and an underlying cause of chronic illness worldwide. Dr. James
Bowen, Researcher and biochemist, reports:

"Splenda/sucralose is simply chlorinated sugar; a chlorocarbon. Common
chlorocarbons include carbon tetrachloride, trichlorethelene and methylene
chloride, all deadly. Chlorine is nature's Doberman attack dog, a highly
excitable, ferocious atomic element employed as a biocide in bleach,
disinfectants, insecticide, WWI poison gas and hydrochloric acid.

"Sucralose is a molecule of sugar chemically manipulated to surrender three
hydroxyl groups (hydrogen + oxygen) and replace them with three chlorine
atoms. Natural sugar is a hydrocarbon built around 12 carbon atoms. When
turned into Splenda it becomes a chlorocarbon, in the family of Chlorodane,
Lindane and DDT,

"It is logical to ask why table salt, which also contains chlorine, is safe
while Splenda/sucralose is toxic? Because salt isn't a chlorocarbon. When
molecular chemistry binds sodium to chlorine to make salt carbon isn't
included. Sucralose and salt are as different as oil and water.

"Unlike sodium chloride, chlorocarbons are never nutritionally compatible
with our metabolic processes and are wholly incompatible with normal human
metabolic functioning. When chlorine is chemically reacted into
carbon-structured organic compounds to make chlorocarbons, the carbon and
chlorine atoms bind to each other by mutually sharing electrons in their
outer shells. This arrangement adversely affects human metabolism because
our mitochondrial and cellular enzyme systems are designed to completely
utilize organic molecules containing carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, and
other compatible nutritional elements.

"By this process chlorocarbons such as sucralose deliver chlorine directly
into our cells through normal metabolization. This makes them effective
insecticides and preservatives. Preservatives must kill anything alive to
prevent bacterial decomposition."

Dr. Bowen believes ingested chlorocarbon damage continues with the formation
of other toxins: "Any chlorocarbons not directly excreted from the body
intact can cause immense damage to the processes of human metabolism and,
eventually, our internal organs. The liver is a detoxification organ which
deals with ingested poisons. Chlorocarbons damage the hepatocytes, the
liver's metabolic cells, and destroy them. In test animals Splenda produced
swollen livers, as do all chlorocarbon poisons, and also calcified the
kidneys of test animals in toxicity studies. The brain and nervous system
are highly subject to metabolic toxicities and solvency damages by these
chemicals. Their high solvency attacks the human nervous system and many
other body systems including genetics and the immune function. Thus,
chlorocarbon poisoning can cause cancer, birth defects, and immune system
destruction. These are well known effects of Dioxin and PCBs which are known
deadly chlorocarbons."

Dr. Bowen continues: "Just like aspartame, which achieved marketplace
approval by the Food and Drug Administration when animal studies clearly
demonstrated its toxicity, sucralose also failed in clinical trials with
animals. Aspartame created brain tumors in rats. Sucralose has been found to
shrink thymus glands (the biological seat of immunity) and produce liver
inflammation in rats and mice.

"In the coming months we can expect to see a river of media hype expounding
the virtues of Splenda/sucralose. We should not be fooled again into
accepting the safety of a toxic chemical on the blessing of the FDA and
saturation advertising. In terms of potential long-term human toxicity we
should regard sucralose with its chemical cousin DDT, the insecticide now
outlawed because of its horrendous long term toxicities at even minute trace
levels in human, avian, and mammalian tissues.

"Synthetic chemical sweeteners are generally unsafe for human consumption.
This toxin was given the chemical name "sucralose" which is a play on the
technical name of natural sugar, sucrose. One is not the other. One is food,
the other is toxic; don't be deceived."

Dr. Bowen also calls attention to another seldom recognized and deadly
permanent effect of these chemicals: "Aspartame, sold as NutraSweet, Equal,
E951, Canderel, Benevia and under other names, is a hypersensitization agent
which causes Polychemical Sensitivity syndrome. Chlorocarbons strongly
induce uncurable hypersensitivity diseases which are now becoming rampant."
(James Bowen, M.D.)

Doctor Bowen has spent 20 years researching artificial sweeteners after his
use of aspartame resulted in being diagnosed with Lou Gehrig's disease. Dr
Bowen's intention is to warn the world of the toxicity of tabletop poisons
like aspartame, Splenda and Neotame.

For more information on aspartame and Splenda click on the Aspartame
Information List on
http://www.wnho.net. Dr. Bowen can be seen in the movie
"Sweet Misery: A Poisoned World" For the movie call 1 818 349 8822 or email
See how aspartame was approved by clicking
on
http://www.soundandfury.tv/pages/Rumsfeld2.html

Aspartame and Splenda Toxicity Centers, http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame
Aspartame and brain tumors cases for litigation contact Dr. Betty Martini at
or 770 242-2599. Currently taking states New York,
New Jersey, Madison County, Illinois and Mississippi

A medical text, Aspartame Disease: An Ignored Epidemic by H. J. Roberts,
M.D. presents, 1038 pages of aspartame horrors.
http://www.sunsentpress.com
or 1 800 827 7991

Russell Blaylock, M.D., has published Excitotoxins: The Taste That Kills on
the subject, http://www.russellblaylockmd.com

Dr. Betty Martini says "the controversy rages over Splenda (sucralose). Is
it safe and natural like sugar or is it a chlorinated hydrocarbon? As
lawsuits fly, consider the chemistry of this artificial compound."

She adds: "The FDA denied approval of aspartame for 16 years, then caved in
to political/economic pressure when Don Rumsfeld, CEO of the manufacturer,
was brought to Washington by Ronald Reagan. A new FDA Commissioner was
appointed to approve it then became a consultant for NutraSweet's public
relations firm for $1,000/day on a 10 year contract. Forthcoming has been a
global epidemic of disability and death. One might expect FDA to be more
cautious next time, yet FDA approved the toxic chlorocarbon Splenda without
hesitation and without any long term testing on human subjects."


-----
Richard Schultz
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
-----
"You don't even have a clue about which clue you're missing."


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Old July 9th 07, 08:59 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids,misc.kids.health,misc.kids.pregnancy
Jan Drew
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wrote in message
oups.com...
On Jul 8, 5:45 am, (Richard Schultz) wrote:
In misc.health.alternative bigvince wrote:
: On Jul 5, 12:35 pm, (Richard Schultz) wrote:
: In misc.health.alternative JOHN wrote:

: : "By this process chlorocarbons such as sucralose deliver chlorine
directly
: : into our cells through normal metabolization. This makes them
effective
: : insecticides and preservatives. Preservatives must kill anything
alive to
: : prevent bacterial decomposition."

: Someone should ask Dr. Bowen how he reconciles his belief that sugar
: and salt are acceptable dietary components with their historical
: use as food preservatives.

: As you know aspartame another chlorocarbon. . .

Try again, but this time (a) answer the point that was raised and
(b) without incorrectly referring to aspartame as a "chlorocarbon" (it
isn't; it's a methyl ester of a dipeptide)


Credulous Vince has Aspartame confused with Splenda. Don't expect him
to understand his mistake or any other aspect of chemistry.


From:


From: John Bain )


Subject: Aspartame: Any Truth to the Stories?
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
Date: 2002-09-22 04:26:41 PST


(Ilsa Nein) writes:
Jan, I'm sure that this Andrew is a fine piece of beef-cake, but I don't
see
why you air this fixation on MHA. Oh, and if you don't quit calling
me
"fake ilsa", I'll report you to Karuna's knee-jerk ISP.



But Andrew, you are not very good at maintaining your separate personas.
Do you remember this interchange where you forgot which account you were
posting from?
-----------------
Message 22
From: Kris Brys )
Subject: why do we need homeopathy?
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
View this article only
Date: 2001-10-09 03:30:51 PST
----------------------
"Ilsa Nein" schreef in bericht
...
I can say much more than one good thing about homeopathy. Not only do
I love the principle that less can be more but it turns out to be the
most 'proper' treatment I have ever received. I have used it SOLELY
for 6 years.



So, you've been taking it for 6 years and you're not cured?



Dear Ilsa,
how many years do you use regular medicine? how many years do you take
antibiotics. Did that cured you permanently?
If you start thinking, even a couple of seconds, you will find out that
people don't cure forever.
A good advice: read Organon of Samuel Hahnemann. When you haven't read
that
book you will not understand what homeopathy is all about. Read it and
than
ask questions.



greetings
Kris
------
Message 23 in thread
From: JKingoff )
Subject: why do we need homeopathy?
Newsgroups: misc.health.alternative
View this article only
Date: 2001-10-09 06:08:38 PST



Dear Ilsa,
how many years do you use regular medicine?



I haven't needed regular medicine much. I have had my vaccinations, eat
properly, exercise, and don't take silly risks.



how many years do you take
antibiotics



I have taken antibiotics once. I was Rx'd a single pill.



. Did that cured you permanently?



Well, I felt much better the following day and haven't taken one since and
that
was bout 6 years ago.



If you start thinking, even a couple of seconds, you will find out that
people don't cure forever.



Duh. However, some conditions are resolved and in the absence of
re-infection
they don't reoccur.



A good advice: read Organon of Samuel Hahnemann. When you haven't read
that
book you will not understand what homeopathy is all about. Read it and
than
ask questions.



I've read it and I've read more modern books on it. Its pure hokum and
the
few
well controlled studies support that conclusion. Even the study that is
frequently posted to MHA that supposedly proves homeopathy isn't even
FAVORABLE
to homeopathy.



greetings
Kris



Show us a replicated, controlled, peer-reviewed study which show that
homeopathy is efficacious. Homeopathy was Hahnemann's way of acting-out
against "the system". It is nothing more than superstition,
pseudo-science,
and sympathetic magic.



In the 21st century, we have real medicine and don't need to cling to the
vanity of a long deceased, disaffected 18th century doctor of voodoo.




===

Now...you were saying?.............................



-----
Richard Schultz
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
-----
"You don't even have a clue about which clue you're missing."




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Old July 9th 07, 09:09 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids,misc.kids.health,misc.kids.pregnancy
Jan Drew
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wrote in message
oups.com...
On Jul 8, 5:45 am, (Richard Schultz) wrote:
In misc.health.alternative bigvince wrote:
: On Jul 5, 12:35 pm, (Richard Schultz) wrote:
: In misc.health.alternative JOHN wrote:

: : "By this process chlorocarbons such as sucralose deliver chlorine
directly
: : into our cells through normal metabolization. This makes them
effective
: : insecticides and preservatives. Preservatives must kill anything
alive to
: : prevent bacterial decomposition."

: Someone should ask Dr. Bowen how he reconciles his belief that sugar
: and salt are acceptable dietary components with their historical
: use as food preservatives.

: As you know aspartame another chlorocarbon. . .

Try again, but this time (a) answer the point that was raised and
(b) without incorrectly referring to aspartame as a "chlorocarbon" (it
isn't; it's a methyl ester of a dipeptide)


Credulous Vince has Aspartame confused with Splenda. Don't expect him
to understand his mistake or any other aspect of chemistry.

When will all those horrific side effects of Aspartame finally
manifest?


Poor, poor Andrew been living in a cave,

http://www.sweetpoison.com/aspartame-side-effects.html

http://elvis.engr.wisc.edu/UER/uer98/author2/index.html

http://www.newstarget.com/z004416.html



-----
Richard Schultz
Department of Chemistry, Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
-----
"You don't even have a clue about which clue you're missing."




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Old July 9th 07, 09:29 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids,misc.kids.health,misc.kids.pregnancy
Jan Drew
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"Mark Probert" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
The One True Zhen Jue wrote:
On Jul 8, 5:45 am, (Richard Schultz) wrote:
In misc.health.alternative bigvince wrote:
: On Jul 5, 12:35 pm, (Richard Schultz) wrote:
: In misc.health.alternative JOHN wrote:

: : "By this process chlorocarbons such as sucralose deliver chlorine
directly
: : into our cells through normal metabolization. This makes them
effective
: : insecticides and preservatives. Preservatives must kill anything
alive to
: : prevent bacterial decomposition."

: Someone should ask Dr. Bowen how he reconciles his belief that sugar
: and salt are acceptable dietary components with their historical
: use as food preservatives.

: As you know aspartame another chlorocarbon. . .

Try again, but this time (a) answer the point that was raised and
(b) without incorrectly referring to aspartame as a "chlorocarbon" (it
isn't; it's a methyl ester of a dipeptide)


Credulous Vince has Aspartame confused with Splenda. Don't expect him
to understand his mistake or any other aspect of chemistry.

When will all those horrific side effects of Aspartame finally
manifest?


Ten years ago, Not-A-Doctor Betty Martini claimed that aspartame would
make you blind.

Where are all those blind people?



The toxic soup called aspartame

Aspartame was never and cannot be proven to be safe. It is not and
cannot be a diet aid because the formaldehyde (from the breakdown of the
10% methanol) gets stored in the fat along with some water. The
National Soft Drink Association (NSDA) did a 30-page protest in the '80s
(Congressional Record, Senate S 5511, 5/7/85) that complained that
aspartame is unstable, and that it reduces the levels of serotonin (a
substance that gives that "full" feeling) so aspartame induces a craving
for carbohydrates.

L-Aspartyl-l-phenylalanine methyl ester, 98%, aspartame CAS #22839-47-0
(a.k.a. Equal, NutraSweet, Spoonful, Benevia, Equal Measure, etc.) is
composed of (at least) three things:

1.) aspartic acid, (40%) CAS # 56-84-8 C4H7NO4 (L-Aspartic acid)
2.) phenylalanine, (50%) CAS # 63-91-2 C9H11NO2 (L-Phenylalanine)
3.) methanol (10%) CAS # 67-56-1 CH4O (Wood alcohol)

Molecular Weight : 294.30
Formula : C14H18N2O5
MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET : http://www.dorway.com/asparta.txt

O O
|| ||
NH3 -- CH -- C -- NH -- CH -- C -- OCH3
| |
CH2 CH2
| |
C=O C
| // \
O HC CH
| |
HC CH
\\ /
C
H

The phenylalanine breaks down into diketopiperazine (DKP), a known tumor
agent, and is the reason FDA mandated a PKU warning label
"PHENYLKETONURICS: Contains phenylalanine". Diketopiperazine was the
major impediment to approval noted in the Searle "Helling" memo
(http://www.dorway.com/secrets.html).

The methanol (without Ethanol, the natural antidote) breaks down in-
solution (diet coke, spit, etc.) into formaldehyde. The human liver
also breaks down "free" methanol from any solution into formaldehyde.
The body has difficulty eliminating formaldehyde so it combines some of
it with water and stores it in the fat. Formaldehyde not stored in the
fat is further converted to formic acid (same thing as ant sting
poison).

(For proof that there is methanol, and that it converts to
formaldehyde and DOES get stored in the fat.. visit:
http://www.PRESIDIOTEX.COM/barcelona/)

So, with each sip EVERY user gets a micro-dose of three poisons, two
of which (formaldehyde and formic acid) are known carcinogens... along
with that side-order of DKP, the tumor agent. A science report was done
on Diet Cokes and the results were evaluated by a reputable food testing
laboratory. The Lab proved the methanol = formaldehyde conversion
(even in unopened cans cooling off in the refrigerator) and that
phenylalanine converted to DKP. (See http://www.dorway.com/jcohen.html)

A fairly complete list of aspartame breakdown components from the
aspartic acid, phenylalanine, and methanol is as follows:

Formaldehyde CAS # 50-00-0 CH2O (embalming fluid)
Formic Acid CAS # 64-18-6 CH2O2 (fire ant-sting poison)

Beta Aspartame **
Aspartylphenylalanine **
Aspartylphenylalanine amide **
Tyrosine CAS # 60-18-4 C9H11NO3
L-Dopa **
Dopamine **
Norepinephrine **
Epinephrine **
Phenylethylamine CAS # 64-04-0
Phenylpyruvate **
Phenylactic acid **
Phenylacetic acid CAS # 103-82-2
Diketopiperazine (DKP) CAS # 106-57-0 C4H6N2O2 (Glycine anhydride)

The damages caused by aspartame are noted in FDA's compiled list of 92
symptoms of aspartame poisoning (http://www.dorway.com/badnews.html)
(includes comments on how it happens).

These symptoms were derived from what the FDA notes is the most
complained about substance in their history, at one time comprising
around 85% of all complaints. The total number of complaints FDA admits
is over 10,000 (a vast understatement because Mission Possible has sent
FDA thousands of reports they chose to ignore). Of note is that my two
CERTIFIED letters of complaint, one to FDA and another to DHHS, have
never been answered, which leads me to believe neither were counted.

FDA says less than 1% of victims report a problem. This balloons
their 10,000 complaints to over a MILLION victims who SHOULD have
complained! Please note that either number is significant, especially
for a "safe" food additive.

The proponents of aspartame admit to the 10% methanol content but
claim that fruit has more methanol. This is probably true, but where
they deviate from the truth is that nature included an abundance of
ETHANOL in fruit, the natural antidote to methanol poisoning. They omit
telling the public that aspartame has NO ethanol, which is why it is
unstable and breaks down into formaldehyde in unopened containers.

Products with aspartame in solution have an approximate 270 day shelf
life IF stored below 86 degrees F. Much less when stacked in the sun
outside a gas station!

A Nutrasweet Co. comment:

"Additionally, the comments about multiple sclerosis, systemic lupus
erythematosis, and Alzheimer's Disease being linked to aspartame are not
true. No one knows what causes these sad diseases, but they existed
many, many years before aspartame came to the market. There has not been
an "epidemic." Unfortunately these unsubstantiated statements have
frightened individuals and their families."

If "No one knows what causes these sad diseases" how can they rule
out aspartame? Simple logic nails them as liars on this one, too!

Nutrasweet also says that the amino acids in aspartame are "natural".
They are natural only IN COMBINATION with other amino acids... not
isolated as in aspartame.

Dr. Moser, the Nutrasweet spokesman, overstepped the boundary of
truth on National TV when he stated aspartame cannot get into the blood
and cause seizures. The RAO report, one of 15 "pivotal" (of seventy
four) G. D. Searle funded tests, proved that five of seven monkeys fed
aspartame-laced milk for a year developed seizures and the seventh one
died (but all data on why was "lost"). Dr. Moser privately admitted to
Jennifer Cohen (author of the Diet Coke science report):

"..the study should never have been undertaken, much less submitted as
legitimate observation. This particular experiment represents an
unpardonable breach in methodology." (H. Moser)

FDA's "pivotal" proof of safety is a bizarre inverted interpretation.
What might the other 73 Searle-funded tests reveal? Review FDA toxicologist
Dr. Gross's notarized statements to Senator Metzenbaum concerning brain
tumors (http://www.dorway.com/gross.txt) and FDA's Dr. Jerome Bressler's
76 page report of only ONE Searle test, which verifies brain, mammary,
ovarian and uterine tumors PLUS shrunken testes
(http://www.dorway.com/bressler.txt).

Simply stated... "ASPARTAME is a Pandora's box of chameleon-like
toxins and tumor agents that have 92 FDA acknowledged ways to ruin your
life, death being one of them".

Damage caused by aspartame consumption is CUMULATIVE... it adds
up with each dose. Too often the FDA mandated warning label
"PHENYLKETONURICS: Contains phenylalanine" is hidden or illegally
omitted (with impunity).

----------------

METHANOL

Methanol (wood alcohol, methyl alcohol) is a common household solvent
used in perfume, windscreen washing liquid, duplicating fluid,
antifreeze, shellac, paint remover. It is also added to commercial
glutaraldehyde for shipping. Methanol occurs naturally in fruit and
vegetables along with ethanol (alcohol). Methanol metabolises in the
body to formaldehyde, then to formic acid, and then to substances which
can be eliminated - including carbon dioxide and water.

The oxidation products of METHANOL/METHYL ALCOHOL [ie methanol =
formaldehyde = formic acid] may induce severe acidosis. The amount
causing severe effects varies with the individual especially if ethyl
alcohol (ethanol) is consumed at the same time. The two compounds share
the same degrading enzyme, alcohol dehydrogenase, and competition from
ethanol slows the production of the more toxic products of metabolism -
ie formaldehyde and formic acid. Oxidation and excretion of methanol is
slow; toxic symptoms do not develop for 12-48 hrs. Symptoms involve
the visual apparatus (severe degenerative changes occur within the
ganglion cells of the retina; the toxicity of methanol appears to relate
directly to formic acid), the CNS, and the gastrointestinal and
respiratory tracts. Clinical toxicity relates to acidosis as well as the
effects of accumulation of toxic products: nausea, vomiting, generalised
weakness, severe abdominal pain, vertigo, headache. Symptoms similar to
ethyl alcoholism appear: restlessness, incoordination... confusion and
memory defects are common. [Paper available: CIIN 0024-GOET-85-014].
The half life of HCHO in rabbits etc is estimated to be one minute.
Inhaling the fumes of methanol can cause headache, eye irritation,
dizziness, visual disturbances and nausea. It damages the liver, heart,
kidneys, and lungs.

FORMALDEHYDE EFFECTS

Skin reactions: ...chemical can be both irritating and allergy-
causing...(EPA). A slight sensation of tiny insects crawling over the
eyes, nose and pharynx (formication) is felt at 2-3 ppm. (Zurlo N, via
OSH, NZ.) Contact with the vapour or solution causes skin to become
white, rough, hard and anaesthetic due to superficial coagulation
necrosis. With long exposure, dermatitis and hypersensitivity frequently
result. Prolonged exposure may also cause cracking of skin and
ulceration, especially around the fingernails. Inhalation of HCHO
vapours produces irritation to the eyes, nose and throat and frequently
results in upper respiratory tract irritation, coughing and bronchitis.
Asthma may occur in sensitive individuals. Exposure may cause headache,
dizziness, difficulty breathing and pulmonary edema. Acute effects
include conjunctival and URT irritation from exposure to 0.1 ppm-5 ppm.
Severe exposure to fumes may lead to chemical pneumonia. (EPA
www.epa.gov). Peak expiratory flow rates in med students decreased
slightly over a 10 week anatomy course, a trend which reversed after the
course finished. But studies of routinely exposed workers, controls,
and asthmatics using controlled chamber challenges have frequently
failed to show pulmonary changes. However most patients tested for
formaldehyde asthma do not react to specific challenge or have
demonstrable antibodies present. Inhalation of 10-20 ppm can lead to
lower respiratory tract irritation manifested by cough, chest tightness,
and tachycardia. Human systemic effects by inhalation.

After ingestion, degenerative changes may be found in the liver,
kidneys, heart and brain. Experimental poison by ingestion, skin
contact, inhalation, intravenous, intraperitoneal and subcutaneous
routes. Human poison by ingestion. A woman drinking 120 mls of
formaldehyde died 28 hrs later - blood analysis showed that sufficient
formaldehyde metabolised rapidly to formic acid (large amounts within
half an hour distributing to about 70% of body water) to cause metabolic
acidosis.

HCHO is involved in DNA damage and inhibits its repair. HCHO is a
suspected human carcinogen and has been shown to produce mutations and
abnormal organisms in bacterial studies" - (EPA). Carcinogen -
(Dorland's Medical Dictionary). An experimental carcinogen, tumorigen
and teratogen. Experimental reproductive effects. The chemical has
been linked to menstrual disorders and pregnancy problems in women
exposed to high levels in nail salons (EPA). A study of lab workers in
Finland found a significant association between formalin exposure and
spontaneous abortion.

Neurotoxin (see also Formaldehyde Neurotoxicity p 29.) A good
reference: Lezak M. Neuropsychological Assessment, 1995, Chap 7).

Other symptoms of sensitivity to formaldehyde, including muscle and
joint pain, fatigue, and cross reactivity to other chemicals are similar
to those listed for glutaraldehyde p 21. Excessive thirst is noted in
The Jeremiah Project literature. John Bower, Director, Healthy House
Institute, Bloomington, Indiana: In a new study, March 1999: "One of
the most insidious problems with formaldehyde is its ability to
sensitise people to other pollutants."

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Old July 9th 07, 09:41 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids,misc.kids.health,misc.kids.pregnancy
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"Mark Probert" wrote in message
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The One True Zhen Jue wrote:
On Jul 8, 5:45 am, (Richard Schultz) wrote:
In misc.health.alternative bigvince wrote:
: On Jul 5, 12:35 pm, (Richard Schultz) wrote:
: In misc.health.alternative JOHN wrote:

: : "By this process chlorocarbons such as sucralose deliver chlorine
directly
: : into our cells through normal metabolization. This makes them
effective
: : insecticides and preservatives. Preservatives must kill anything
alive to
: : prevent bacterial decomposition."

: Someone should ask Dr. Bowen how he reconciles his belief that sugar
: and salt are acceptable dietary components with their historical
: use as food preservatives.

: As you know aspartame another chlorocarbon. . .

Try again, but this time (a) answer the point that was raised and
(b) without incorrectly referring to aspartame as a "chlorocarbon" (it
isn't; it's a methyl ester of a dipeptide)


Credulous Vince has Aspartame confused with Splenda. Don't expect him
to understand his mistake or any other aspect of chemistry.

When will all those horrific side effects of Aspartame finally
manifest?


Ten years ago, Not-A-Doctor Betty Martini claimed that aspartame would
make you blind.

Where are all those blind people?


http://www.answers.com/topic/blindness?cat=health

In November 2004 article Magnitude and causes of visual impairment, the WHO
estimated that in 2002 there were 161 million (about 2.6% of the world
population) visually impaired people in the world, of whom 124 million
(about 2%) had low vision and 37 million (about 0.6%) were blind. [9]
====

How would anyone know if anyone's blindness was caused by aspartame? After
all the health effects are denied...

For ONE reason, it's called M O N E Y.

BTW, what were you doing 30 years ago?

How about 15 years ago?

Hmmmm.

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Old July 9th 07, 10:16 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids,misc.kids.health,misc.kids.pregnancy
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In misc.health.alternative Jan Drew wrote:
: "Richard Schultz" wrote in message
: ...
: In misc.health.alternative bigvince wrote:

: : Someone should ask Dr. Bowen how he reconciles his belief that sugar
: : and salt are acceptable dietary components with their historical
: : use as food preservatives.

: : As you know aspartame another chlorocarbon. . .

: Try again, but this time (a) answer the point that was raised and
: (b) without incorrectly referring to aspartame as a "chlorocarbon" (it
: isn't; it's a methyl ester of a dipeptide)

: A bit of a control problem?
:
: Posters can answer without instructions.

I normally wouldn't bother, but now my curiosity is piqued. Could someone
out there with access to a Drewish-English dictionary please be so kind as
to translate the above for me?

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-- James Thurber, _My Life and Hard Times_
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Old July 9th 07, 10:17 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids,misc.kids.health,misc.kids.pregnancy
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In misc.health.alternative JOHN wrote:

: I love you pharma pimps, you go on about how OK poison is to drink then you
: say you never touch it yourself.

When did I ever say that poison is okay to drink?

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Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
-----
"You don't even have a clue about which clue you're missing."
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Old July 9th 07, 10:37 AM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids,misc.kids.health,misc.kids.pregnancy
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"Jan Drew" wrote:


"Mark Probert" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
The One True Zhen Jue wrote:
On Jul 8, 5:45 am, (Richard Schultz) wrote:
In misc.health.alternative bigvince wrote:
: On Jul 5, 12:35 pm, (Richard Schultz) wrote:
: In misc.health.alternative JOHN wrote:

: : "By this process chlorocarbons such as sucralose deliver chlorine
directly
: : into our cells through normal metabolization. This makes them
effective
: : insecticides and preservatives. Preservatives must kill anything
alive to
: : prevent bacterial decomposition."

: Someone should ask Dr. Bowen how he reconciles his belief that sugar
: and salt are acceptable dietary components with their historical
: use as food preservatives.

: As you know aspartame another chlorocarbon. . .

Try again, but this time (a) answer the point that was raised and
(b) without incorrectly referring to aspartame as a "chlorocarbon" (it
isn't; it's a methyl ester of a dipeptide)

Credulous Vince has Aspartame confused with Splenda. Don't expect him
to understand his mistake or any other aspect of chemistry.

When will all those horrific side effects of Aspartame finally
manifest?


Ten years ago, Not-A-Doctor Betty Martini claimed that aspartame would
make you blind.

Where are all those blind people?


http://www.answers.com/topic/blindness?cat=health

In November 2004 article Magnitude and causes of visual impairment, the WHO
estimated that in 2002 there were 161 million (about 2.6% of the world
population) visually impaired people in the world, of whom 124 million
(about 2%) had low vision and 37 million (about 0.6%) were blind. [9]
====

How would anyone know if anyone's blindness was caused by aspartame? After
all the health effects are denied...

For ONE reason, it's called M O N E Y.

BTW, what were you doing 30 years ago?

How about 15 years ago?

Hmmmm.


Jan, the leading cause of blindness in children around the world is
measles. Please remember that the next time you feel the need to
support some anti-vaccination liar.
--
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Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com
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Old July 9th 07, 12:56 PM posted to misc.health.alternative,misc.kids,misc.kids.health,misc.kids.pregnancy
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