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Michigan seeks extradition of Colorado man for child support
On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 22:47:23 GMT, "The DaveŠ" wrote:
Dusty wrote: Michigan seeks extradition of Colorado man for child support Associated Press Saturday, April 10, 2004 LANSING -- Gov. Jennifer Granholm on Friday started proceedings to extradite from Arizona a man charged with failure to pay more than $91,000 in support for his children. Granholm signed the extradition request for Christopher Carroll Aragon of Glenwood Springs, Colo. Aragon was arrested recently by law enforcement officials in Arizonas Coconino County. In March 1995, Aragon was ordered to pay $45.60 per week for support of his minor children. But Aragon has failed to comply, Granholms office said, and his debts include $19,763 to the state of Michigan. A felony warrant for Aragons arrest was issued by the Lapeer County prosecutors office in November. Lapeer authorities want Aragon to return to Michigan to face charges. Non-support of a child is a felony punishable by up to four years in prison. Aragon has failed to meet his responsibility to pay child support, and that has consequences, Granholm said in a news release. Granholms extradition request was sent to Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano. --------------------------------------------------- ------ snipped ------- Welcome to the wonderful world of child support math. Depending on your state there's a legal fiction called "potential income" -- support is based on a prospective amount they say you *should* be making. In Washington they go by "imputed income" -- some social engineers won a grant and came up with a chart that says because dad's xx years old the median income for that age is $xx, therefore child support is set based on the fictional amount. It's "legal" the same way the KKK was once legal. And sodomy between consenting adults is a felony. The root of the problem is the application of this kind of funny math which has created a generation of debtors, many with no hope whatsoever of ever digging out of it. But this "legal" methodology has a very real Achilles Heal -- apply the centuries-old common law of debt and their "legalities" begins to crumble. Then it gets simple because that area of law boils down to not much more than these basics: what is owed and the legality of the underlying obligation. I'm working on it. Anyone interested can email me. x-- 100 Proof News - http://www.100ProofNews.com x-- 3,500+ Binary NewsGroups, and over 90,000 other groups x-- Access to over 1 Terabyte per Day - $8.95/Month x-- UNLIMITED DOWNLOAD |
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Michigan seeks extradition of Colorado man for child support
When I see this kind of thing, I wonder why ANY man would put himself at risk of being treated in this way, by getting married and having children. I've been divorced for a good many years, and I got my ex-wife off my payroll several years ago, after paying her "child support" for more than 10 years. It's still an intense source of relief to me that she -- and all the wretched male-hating people involved in the CS industry -- no longer have any power over me. Why DO men get themselves into situations where they can be treated this way? A large part of the answer has to be that they just don't know about what goes on. Presumably, if men aren't supposed to be paying "child support," they don't focus on stories like the one below. And if they haven't yet got into marriage, no one tells them about the 50 percent divorce rate, the fact that the great majority of U.S. divorces are initiated by wives, and the continued glass ceiling on paternal custody. There should be some kind of advertising and PR campaign to get the message out to men. If there were a well-financed "masculinist" movement, there WOULD be such a campaign. And, if wishes were horses, beggars would ride . . . "StuKa" wrote in message ... On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 22:47:23 GMT, "The DaveŠ" wrote: Dusty wrote: Michigan seeks extradition of Colorado man for child support Associated Press Saturday, April 10, 2004 LANSING -- Gov. Jennifer Granholm on Friday started proceedings to extradite from Arizona a man charged with failure to pay more than $91,000 in support for his children. Granholm signed the extradition request for Christopher Carroll Aragon of Glenwood Springs, Colo. Aragon was arrested recently by law enforcement officials in Arizonas Coconino County. In March 1995, Aragon was ordered to pay $45.60 per week for support of his minor children. But Aragon has failed to comply, Granholms office said, and his debts include $19,763 to the state of Michigan. A felony warrant for Aragons arrest was issued by the Lapeer County prosecutors office in November. Lapeer authorities want Aragon to return to Michigan to face charges. Non-support of a child is a felony punishable by up to four years in prison. Aragon has failed to meet his responsibility to pay child support, and that has consequences, Granholm said in a news release. Granholms extradition request was sent to Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano. --------------------------------------------------- ------ snipped ------- Welcome to the wonderful world of child support math. Depending on your state there's a legal fiction called "potential income" -- support is based on a prospective amount they say you *should* be making. In Washington they go by "imputed income" -- some social engineers won a grant and came up with a chart that says because dad's xx years old the median income for that age is $xx, therefore child support is set based on the fictional amount. It's "legal" the same way the KKK was once legal. And sodomy between consenting adults is a felony. The root of the problem is the application of this kind of funny math which has created a generation of debtors, many with no hope whatsoever of ever digging out of it. But this "legal" methodology has a very real Achilles Heal -- apply the centuries-old common law of debt and their "legalities" begins to crumble. Then it gets simple because that area of law boils down to not much more than these basics: what is owed and the legality of the underlying obligation. I'm working on it. Anyone interested can email me. x-- 100 Proof News - http://www.100ProofNews.com x-- 3,500+ Binary NewsGroups, and over 90,000 other groups x-- Access to over 1 Terabyte per Day - $8.95/Month x-- UNLIMITED DOWNLOAD |
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Michigan seeks extradition of Colorado man for child support
When I see this kind of thing, I wonder why ANY man would put himself at risk of being treated in this way, by getting married and having children. I've been divorced for a good many years, and I got my ex-wife off my payroll several years ago, after paying her "child support" for more than 10 years. It's still an intense source of relief to me that she -- and all the wretched male-hating people involved in the CS industry -- no longer have any power over me. Why DO men get themselves into situations where they can be treated this way? A large part of the answer has to be that they just don't know about what goes on. Presumably, if men aren't supposed to be paying "child support," they don't focus on stories like the one below. And if they haven't yet got into marriage, no one tells them about the 50 percent divorce rate, the fact that the great majority of U.S. divorces are initiated by wives, and the continued glass ceiling on paternal custody. There should be some kind of advertising and PR campaign to get the message out to men. If there were a well-financed "masculinist" movement, there WOULD be such a campaign. And, if wishes were horses, beggars would ride . . . "StuKa" wrote in message ... On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 22:47:23 GMT, "The DaveŠ" wrote: Dusty wrote: Michigan seeks extradition of Colorado man for child support Associated Press Saturday, April 10, 2004 LANSING -- Gov. Jennifer Granholm on Friday started proceedings to extradite from Arizona a man charged with failure to pay more than $91,000 in support for his children. Granholm signed the extradition request for Christopher Carroll Aragon of Glenwood Springs, Colo. Aragon was arrested recently by law enforcement officials in Arizonas Coconino County. In March 1995, Aragon was ordered to pay $45.60 per week for support of his minor children. But Aragon has failed to comply, Granholms office said, and his debts include $19,763 to the state of Michigan. A felony warrant for Aragons arrest was issued by the Lapeer County prosecutors office in November. Lapeer authorities want Aragon to return to Michigan to face charges. Non-support of a child is a felony punishable by up to four years in prison. Aragon has failed to meet his responsibility to pay child support, and that has consequences, Granholm said in a news release. Granholms extradition request was sent to Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano. --------------------------------------------------- ------ snipped ------- Welcome to the wonderful world of child support math. Depending on your state there's a legal fiction called "potential income" -- support is based on a prospective amount they say you *should* be making. In Washington they go by "imputed income" -- some social engineers won a grant and came up with a chart that says because dad's xx years old the median income for that age is $xx, therefore child support is set based on the fictional amount. It's "legal" the same way the KKK was once legal. And sodomy between consenting adults is a felony. The root of the problem is the application of this kind of funny math which has created a generation of debtors, many with no hope whatsoever of ever digging out of it. But this "legal" methodology has a very real Achilles Heal -- apply the centuries-old common law of debt and their "legalities" begins to crumble. Then it gets simple because that area of law boils down to not much more than these basics: what is owed and the legality of the underlying obligation. I'm working on it. Anyone interested can email me. x-- 100 Proof News - http://www.100ProofNews.com x-- 3,500+ Binary NewsGroups, and over 90,000 other groups x-- Access to over 1 Terabyte per Day - $8.95/Month x-- UNLIMITED DOWNLOAD |
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Michigan seeks extradition of Colorado man for child support
When I see this kind of thing, I wonder why ANY man would put himself at risk of being treated in this way, by getting married and having children. I've been divorced for a good many years, and I got my ex-wife off my payroll several years ago, after paying her "child support" for more than 10 years. It's still an intense source of relief to me that she -- and all the wretched male-hating people involved in the CS industry -- no longer have any power over me. Why DO men get themselves into situations where they can be treated this way? A large part of the answer has to be that they just don't know about what goes on. Presumably, if men aren't supposed to be paying "child support," they don't focus on stories like the one below. And if they haven't yet got into marriage, no one tells them about the 50 percent divorce rate, the fact that the great majority of U.S. divorces are initiated by wives, and the continued glass ceiling on paternal custody. There should be some kind of advertising and PR campaign to get the message out to men. If there were a well-financed "masculinist" movement, there WOULD be such a campaign. And, if wishes were horses, beggars would ride . . . "StuKa" wrote in message ... On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 22:47:23 GMT, "The DaveŠ" wrote: Dusty wrote: Michigan seeks extradition of Colorado man for child support Associated Press Saturday, April 10, 2004 LANSING -- Gov. Jennifer Granholm on Friday started proceedings to extradite from Arizona a man charged with failure to pay more than $91,000 in support for his children. Granholm signed the extradition request for Christopher Carroll Aragon of Glenwood Springs, Colo. Aragon was arrested recently by law enforcement officials in Arizonas Coconino County. In March 1995, Aragon was ordered to pay $45.60 per week for support of his minor children. But Aragon has failed to comply, Granholms office said, and his debts include $19,763 to the state of Michigan. A felony warrant for Aragons arrest was issued by the Lapeer County prosecutors office in November. Lapeer authorities want Aragon to return to Michigan to face charges. Non-support of a child is a felony punishable by up to four years in prison. Aragon has failed to meet his responsibility to pay child support, and that has consequences, Granholm said in a news release. Granholms extradition request was sent to Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano. --------------------------------------------------- ------ snipped ------- Welcome to the wonderful world of child support math. Depending on your state there's a legal fiction called "potential income" -- support is based on a prospective amount they say you *should* be making. In Washington they go by "imputed income" -- some social engineers won a grant and came up with a chart that says because dad's xx years old the median income for that age is $xx, therefore child support is set based on the fictional amount. It's "legal" the same way the KKK was once legal. And sodomy between consenting adults is a felony. The root of the problem is the application of this kind of funny math which has created a generation of debtors, many with no hope whatsoever of ever digging out of it. But this "legal" methodology has a very real Achilles Heal -- apply the centuries-old common law of debt and their "legalities" begins to crumble. Then it gets simple because that area of law boils down to not much more than these basics: what is owed and the legality of the underlying obligation. I'm working on it. Anyone interested can email me. x-- 100 Proof News - http://www.100ProofNews.com x-- 3,500+ Binary NewsGroups, and over 90,000 other groups x-- Access to over 1 Terabyte per Day - $8.95/Month x-- UNLIMITED DOWNLOAD |
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Michigan seeks extradition of Colorado man for child support
Kenneth S. wrote:
When I see this kind of thing, I wonder why ANY man would put himself at risk of being treated in this way, by getting married and having children. I've been divorced for a good many years, and I got my ex-wife off my payroll several years ago, after paying her "child support" for more than 10 years. It's still an intense source of relief to me that she -- and all the wretched male-hating people involved in the CS industry -- no longer have any power over me. Why DO men get themselves into situations where they can be treated this way? A large part of the answer has to be that they just don't know about what goes on. Presumably, if men aren't supposed to be paying "child support," they don't focus on stories like the one below. And if they haven't yet got into marriage, no one tells them about the 50 percent divorce rate, the fact that the great majority of U.S. divorces are initiated by wives, and the continued glass ceiling on paternal custody. There should be some kind of advertising and PR campaign to get the message out to men. If there were a well-financed "masculinist" movement, there WOULD be such a campaign. And, if wishes were horses, beggars would ride . . . I have thought about teaching my boys to never get married or have kids, for those reasons, but decided not to. I do warn them what the real world is like and how people can change, but they still have to live their lives. I think most guys know all this stuff, but for whatever reason, choose to believe that it won't happen to them. Not too much unlike young guys and fast driving. -- I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. - Galileo Galilei |
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Michigan seeks extradition of Colorado man for child support
Kenneth S. wrote:
When I see this kind of thing, I wonder why ANY man would put himself at risk of being treated in this way, by getting married and having children. I've been divorced for a good many years, and I got my ex-wife off my payroll several years ago, after paying her "child support" for more than 10 years. It's still an intense source of relief to me that she -- and all the wretched male-hating people involved in the CS industry -- no longer have any power over me. Why DO men get themselves into situations where they can be treated this way? A large part of the answer has to be that they just don't know about what goes on. Presumably, if men aren't supposed to be paying "child support," they don't focus on stories like the one below. And if they haven't yet got into marriage, no one tells them about the 50 percent divorce rate, the fact that the great majority of U.S. divorces are initiated by wives, and the continued glass ceiling on paternal custody. There should be some kind of advertising and PR campaign to get the message out to men. If there were a well-financed "masculinist" movement, there WOULD be such a campaign. And, if wishes were horses, beggars would ride . . . I have thought about teaching my boys to never get married or have kids, for those reasons, but decided not to. I do warn them what the real world is like and how people can change, but they still have to live their lives. I think most guys know all this stuff, but for whatever reason, choose to believe that it won't happen to them. Not too much unlike young guys and fast driving. -- I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. - Galileo Galilei |
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Michigan seeks extradition of Colorado man for child support
Kenneth S. wrote:
When I see this kind of thing, I wonder why ANY man would put himself at risk of being treated in this way, by getting married and having children. I've been divorced for a good many years, and I got my ex-wife off my payroll several years ago, after paying her "child support" for more than 10 years. It's still an intense source of relief to me that she -- and all the wretched male-hating people involved in the CS industry -- no longer have any power over me. Why DO men get themselves into situations where they can be treated this way? A large part of the answer has to be that they just don't know about what goes on. Presumably, if men aren't supposed to be paying "child support," they don't focus on stories like the one below. And if they haven't yet got into marriage, no one tells them about the 50 percent divorce rate, the fact that the great majority of U.S. divorces are initiated by wives, and the continued glass ceiling on paternal custody. There should be some kind of advertising and PR campaign to get the message out to men. If there were a well-financed "masculinist" movement, there WOULD be such a campaign. And, if wishes were horses, beggars would ride . . . I have thought about teaching my boys to never get married or have kids, for those reasons, but decided not to. I do warn them what the real world is like and how people can change, but they still have to live their lives. I think most guys know all this stuff, but for whatever reason, choose to believe that it won't happen to them. Not too much unlike young guys and fast driving. -- I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. - Galileo Galilei |
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