Another victim of $cientology?

Scientology - A Question of Faith
Did A Mother's Faith Contribute To Her Murder?


Jeremy Perkins, speaking to police after he murdered his mother.


(CBS) Why would a 28-year-old man, described as sweet, kind and gentle,
take a knife to his mother one morning in 2003 and stab her over 70 times?

Jeremy Perkins, who had been diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic, came
to believe that his mother, Elli, was evil and out to get him. Experts
say the brutal murder might never have occurred, had he received proper
treatment to control his psychotic delusions. But Jeremy’s parents were
devout Scientologists and their religion strongly opposes psychiatric
treatment.

Did Elli Perkins' faith contribute to her death? 48 Hours correspondent
Peter Van Sant explores the issue this Saturday, Oct. 28, at 10 p.m. ET/PT.

"I tried to slit my wrists...but I wouldn't die, so I decided to do my
mom instead," Jeremy Perkins told police after the murder.

Jeremy’s chilling words describe his actions on March 13, 2003, while he
was in an active psychotic state.

The Perkins family cared deeply for their son and sought treatment
within the principles of their faith. A lawyer for Jeremy's father told
48 Hours that Jeremy was seen by both physicians and mental health
practitioners, including a psychiatrist. But court records unsealed by
48 Hours indicate that Jeremy’s treatment was limited to mostly vitamins
and other holistic healing methods. The family filled prescriptions for
an anti-anxiety drug and a sleeping aid. Medical experts and a doctor
who treated Jeremy after the murder dismiss these methods as ineffective
for an individual with paranoid schizophrenia.

Today the Church of Scientology claims more than 10 million members
worldwide. Its religious opposition to psychiatry is well-known. In June
of 2005, the issue was brought to national attention when actor Tom
Cruise took a very public stance on NBC’s "Today" show. "I know that
psychiatry is a pseudo-science," he told Matt Lauer. "You don’t know the
history of psychiatry. I do."

Van Sant examines the roots of Scientology’s opposition to psychiatry
and the tragic death of a caring mother who desperately wanted to help
her beloved son.

©MMVI, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.

Mark Probert wrote:
Scientology - A Question of Faith
Did A Mother's Faith Contribute To Her Murder?


Jeremy Perkins, speaking to police after he murdered his mother.


(CBS) Why would a 28-year-old man, described as sweet, kind and gentle,
take a knife to his mother one morning in 2003 and stab her over 70 times?

Jeremy Perkins, who had been diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic, came
to believe that his mother, Elli, was evil and out to get him. Experts
say the brutal murder might never have occurred, had he received proper
treatment to control his psychotic delusions. But Jeremy’s parents were
devout Scientologists and their religion strongly opposes psychiatric
treatment.

Did Elli Perkins' faith contribute to her death? 48 Hours correspondent
Peter Van Sant explores the issue this Saturday, Oct. 28, at 10 p.m. ET/PT.

"I tried to slit my wrists...but I wouldn't die, so I decided to do my
mom instead," Jeremy Perkins told police after the murder.

Jeremy’s chilling words describe his actions on March 13, 2003, while he
was in an active psychotic state.

The Perkins family cared deeply for their son and sought treatment
within the principles of their faith. A lawyer for Jeremy's father told
48 Hours that Jeremy was seen by both physicians and mental health
practitioners, including a psychiatrist. But court records unsealed by
48 Hours indicate that Jeremy’s treatment was limited to mostly vitamins
and other holistic healing methods. The family filled prescriptions for
an anti-anxiety drug and a sleeping aid. Medical experts and a doctor
who treated Jeremy after the murder dismiss these methods as ineffective
for an individual with paranoid schizophrenia.

Today the Church of Scientology claims more than 10 million members
worldwide. Its religious opposition to psychiatry is well-known. In June
of 2005, the issue was brought to national attention when actor Tom
Cruise took a very public stance on NBC’s "Today" show. "I know that
psychiatry is a pseudo-science," he told Matt Lauer. "You don’t know the
history of psychiatry. I do."

Van Sant examines the roots of Scientology’s opposition to psychiatry
and the tragic death of a caring mother who desperately wanted to help
her beloved son.

©MMVI, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.



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More info:

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/JeremyPerkins/CoverUp/

There is no such thing.

http://www.lovt.com/alerts/prescription/

I will help you *see*...

***** Experts estimate that two-thirds of the deaths and injuries
caused by prescription drugs


*****could be prevented.******


****** Adverse drug reactions in hospital patients alone account for



an estimated 106,000 deaths and 2.2 million injuries each year,
according to a study published in the Journal of the American Medical
Association. This study did not even include deaths and injuries caused
by errors.*****

****** Another study at the Harvard School of Public Health found
that 6.5 percent of the patients at two Boston teaching hospitals had
been injured by their medications. One-third of these injuries were the
result of a mistake.******


These numbers alone tell us the number of people


*****unnecessarily***** killed and injured by prescription drugs has
reached


****epidemic proportions.******



These numbers vastly eclipse the number of people killed or


seriouslyinjured in car accidents each year. These numbers also raise
some alarming questions:

*****Why is this happening? Who is responsible? Why
aren't those responsible doing more to stop it? What can we do about
it?******


More Drugs than Time


One reason so many people are being needlessly hurt and killed by
prescription drugs is because, as a society, we are using


******so many drugs.*****


******The National Association of Chain Drug Stores reported that in
1992, 2.03 billion prescriptions were dispensed in retail pharmacies.
By 1998, the figure was 2.78 billion. By the year 2005, it is expected
to be 4 billion. That means America?s retail pharmacies alone are now
processing well over 90 prescriptions per second, 24 hours a day, every
day of the year. By 2005 they will have to dispense over 126
prescriptions per second.*****


****** If retail pharmacists can hold the injury or death due to error
rate to one-tenth of one percent, one in every thousand prescriptions,
there will be over 4 million deaths or injuries from pharmacy errors.
The industry itself estimates that errors occur about one-half of
one-percent of the time. This would translate into 8 million errors
annually by the year 2005.****


****** These numbers do not take into account any of the prescription
drugs given to patients in hospitals, or in the doctor?s office. All
together, the number of prescriptions being filled far exceeds the
amount of time necessary to safely administer the drugs.******


It may be impossible for the health care community to eliminate all
deaths and injuries caused by prescription drugs.


However, given the


***** enormous scope****


of this problem,


*****something must be done.*****


*****We cannot tolerate


hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths every year. At some point


we must conclude that the cure is worse than the disease.********

************* Bad System****************


******Responsibility for this problem lies with the overall health
caredelivery system.****


*******At every step there is more that can be done, and must
be done, to improve the system.*****


Pharmacies are under increasing pressure to fill more prescriptions in
less time. Is this because Americans need the drugs? Partly. Is it
because pharmacies must reduce
prices and increase sales to stay competitive? Partly. Is it because
the pharmaceutical industry is under testing and over marketing drugs
to create markets for them to drive their profits ever higher? Partly.
Is it because doctors are overwhelmed, and failing to read the
information they must keep up with in order to adequately care for
their patients? Partly.


*****Whatever the reasons, the results have been
predictable: more errors, more needless injuries, more needless
deaths.******


The Pharmacies


Pharmacies have tried to cope with the situation in a number of ways.


Some have installed a computer system that warns of common


prescription errors, such as overdoses or potentially harmful drug
interactions.
Others have turned to using pharmacy "techs", to help the pharmacist.

However, both of these solutions have been


*****grossly inadequate.******


*******The problem is much deeper than either of these solutions can
solve.*******


The computer system


****has not solved the problem.*****


The Institute for Safe


Medication Practices recently tested the computer system in use by


many pharmacies. Their study asked 307 hospital pharmacies to fill 10
different drug orders that had killed patients in 1998. Some contained
an overdose. Others called for two drugs that were deadly in
combination. Only four of the 307 pharmacies detected all 10 unsafe
orders; a success rate of less than 2 percent,

*******far from tolerable.*******


Hiring unskilled "technical assistants" has also failed to help, and
in many cases is responsible for causing more errors in dispensing
drugs.


The problem of hiring "techs" to assist pharmacists has recently come


under heavy scrutiny. News sources have revealed that many of these
"techs" are nothing more than high school students willing to work for
minimum wage, who have very little or no training. In some cases these
people have been expected to completely process entire drug
prescriptions,

*****even though this is illegal and extremely dangerous.******


The Doctors



One of the overwhelming problems that only gets compounded by the


current systems is the lack of standardization by doctors in the way
they order prescriptions. For example, the vast majority of
prescriptions are still hand written by the doctor. In a world where
drug names can be frightfully confusing, it is ridiculous that
pharmacists must decipher handwritten scribbles when their
misinterpretation could mean a death sentence for some innocent
consumer. For instance, the arthritis drug "Celebrex" is frequently
mistaken for the anti-seizure medication "Cerebyx", and the
anti-depressant "Celexia."

While there are available methods for physicians to use automated
programs for writing prescriptions,


*******few physicians use them even when they are readily
available.*****


**** While the ultimate responsibility for making sure that the drug
dispensed is the same as the drug the doctor intended to prescribe lies
primarily with the pharmacist, the doctor
bears some of the responsibility to communicate clearly.****



Also, doctors tend to rely far too heavily on drug salespeople.


****Instead of reading and understanding the available literature on a
drug, doctors frequently prescribe medicine based only on their
conversations*****

with the drug manufacturer?s detail person. Doctors many times


****fail to do their own research to understand the drugs*****


they prescribe, the potential side effects, or the consequences of one
drug being taken with another.


*******The inevitable result is more needless suffering by the
patients the doctors set out to help.********


Drug Manufacturers Share the Blame


Drug manufacturers share the blame for this state of affairs. The
manufacturers have a duty to make sure the drugs they put on the
market


*******are safe******


, and that the drugs effectively do what the manufacturer says
they will do.


*****The manufacturer must also adequately warn of known side
effects and adverse drug interactions. In recent years the
pharmaceutical companies have been bringing drugs to the market


****with ever less testing*****


*****with ever less assurance that the drugs are safe.*****





And, most importantly, even with knowledge of dangerous side effects,
some drug manufacturers are choosing to

***************lie to the FDA************,


***************lie to doctors,***************


******** and lie to the public*******


********** in order to reap ever increasing profits.***********


The Fen-Phen fiasco well illustrates the


*****greed andirresponsibility*****


of
the drug manufacturing industry. In that case, American Home Products
(AHP), the maker of the dangerous drug Fenfluramine [the "Fen" part of


Fen-Phen], had more reports of heart valve problems by 1995 than it


did
of hair loss.

However, AHP chose to warn of hair loss, but


*****did not even report the findings of heart valve damage to the
FDA.*******


This was because
AHP knew that a warning of hair loss would probably not affect sales
dramatically.


However, if AHP were required to warn physicians and the public about
the potential for serious heart valve damage, such a
warning


*****would drastically hurt sales.*****


Therefore, AHP consciously
elected to


*****withhold vital information that would have saved lives.*****


Thousands of people now have confirmed, serious heart valve problems
because of AHP?s


************* dishonesty.****************


Increasing numbers of drugs have had to be recalled because of their
serious, often deadly side effects. The FDA is simply not big enough to
keep track of all of the new drug applications sent in by drug
manufacturers.


******The economic and political pressure on the FDA to



approve new drugs is immense.*****


Buildings full of well paid

**************lobbyists***************


for the drug industry line the streets of Washington D.C., all of
them with


***** one goal: increase profits, decrease liability.********


The result is shoddy drugs with inadequate warnings of side effects.


*******This, in turn, leads to more needless death and
injury.*******************


Blame the Patient


One of the reasons this problem has not gotten more publicity is that
there is a tendency among


*****manufacturers, doctors, hospitals and pharmacies to blame the
patient***********


This is both a natural knee-jerk
response, and a


*****calculated effort to avoid liability.***********


*****It?s not our



fault, it?s the patient?s.******


(One can see the reason ofr the NEEDLESS mistakes and deaths)

(One can also see the total lack of character and morals by Mark
Probert with his usual despicable tactics.


Jan


They argue that the patient should have


reviewed the prescription better. Or the patient should have noticed the
pills were a different color than usual. Or the patient should
have

told them more information. Or, the patient was sick anyway,
otherwise
they wouldn't have needed medicine. Or, simply, "Mistakes will
happen,
if we had to pay for all of them, we couldn't stay in business, so go
away."


These forms of "blame the patient" ignore the fact that it is the
manufacturer?s duty to make the drug safe and to warn of known side
effects; it is the doctor?s duty to read and understand the
literature
relevant to the drugs his/her patient takes; and it is the pharmacist?s
duty and the doctor?s duty to get the prescription right, and to take
reasonable steps to know any relevant patient information that might
affect the prescription or dose.


Many states require the pharmacy to keep a patient profile, listing known
drug allergies, other medications, and other relevant information.
Pharmacists have an independent duty to make sure the drugs they dispense
are the drugs the doctor prescribed, and that
they
are not dangerous because of some other drug the patient is taking,
or
because of the dose prescribed by the doctor.


The patient is most often the least educated, least informed link in the
health care chain. It is unconscionable to expect the patient to bear the
weight of all of the bad decisions made throughout the
health
care system. Patients should have a right to expect the other health care
professionals to do a reasonable job. We must all trust health care
professionals with our lives from time to time. However, increasingly,
this trust is hard to justify.


Accountability


Holding doctors, hospitals, pharmacies, and drug companies
accountable
for the injuries and deaths they cause is part of the solution. Liability
alone will not fix the problem. However, if it starts
costing


the health care industry more money to "do it wrong than to do it right,"
maybe the industry itself will start working harder to solve these
problems. As long as the industry continues to reap huge
profits
despite the horrendous number of mistakes, the problem will continue.


No civilized society should tolerate the carnage we are currently
experiencing because of prescription drug mistakes. The number of
those


killed and injured annually is probably four to eight times the
number
of people hurt or killed in traffic accidents. This means we are all four
to eight times more likely to be hurt or killed by a misfilled
prescription drug than in a car accident. And this is based on
numbers
put out by the medical community and the pharmaceutical industry itself.
The real numbers may even be higher.


The first step is to report all adverse drug events to the FDA. The next
step is for those seriously injured, and the families of those killed by
prescription drug errors to file claims against those responsible. This
kind of pressure is what finally forced car manufacturers to install
seatbelts, the makers of baby beds to put
the
bars closer together so babies don't strangle, and the maker of at least
one brand of guns to install child safety locks. Our system of justice is
not perfect. Some say it is the worst justice system in
the
world - until you compare it to the rest.


*******Accountability is at the root of our justice system. Why? Because
while freedom entails responsibility - accountability is our only civil
means


of coercing responsible, just behavior**********
==

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- The single most important way to reduce hospital infection, according to
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Mark Probert wrote:
Scientology - A Question of Faith
Did A Mother's Faith Contribute To Her Murder?


Jeremy Perkins, speaking to police after he murdered his mother.


(CBS) Why would a 28-year-old man, described as sweet, kind and gentle,
take a knife to his mother one morning in 2003 and stab her over 70
times?

Jeremy Perkins, who had been diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic, came
to believe that his mother, Elli, was evil and out to get him. Experts
say the brutal murder might never have occurred, had he received proper
treatment to control his psychotic delusions. But Jeremy’s parents were
devout Scientologists and their religion strongly opposes psychiatric
treatment.

Did Elli Perkins' faith contribute to her death? 48 Hours correspondent
Peter Van Sant explores the issue this Saturday, Oct. 28, at 10 p.m.
ET/PT.

"I tried to slit my wrists...but I wouldn't die, so I decided to do my
mom instead," Jeremy Perkins told police after the murder.

Jeremy’s chilling words describe his actions on March 13, 2003, while he
was in an active psychotic state.

The Perkins family cared deeply for their son and sought treatment within
the principles of their faith. A lawyer for Jeremy's father told 48 Hours
that Jeremy was seen by both physicians and mental health practitioners,
including a psychiatrist. But court records unsealed by 48 Hours indicate
that Jeremy’s treatment was limited to mostly vitamins and other holistic
healing methods. The family filled prescriptions for an anti-anxiety drug
and a sleeping aid. Medical experts and a doctor who treated Jeremy after
the murder dismiss these methods as ineffective for an individual with
paranoid schizophrenia.

Today the Church of Scientology claims more than 10 million members
worldwide. Its religious opposition to psychiatry is well-known. In June
of 2005, the issue was brought to national attention when actor Tom
Cruise took a very public stance on NBC’s "Today" show. "I know that
psychiatry is a pseudo-science," he told Matt Lauer. "You don’t know the
history of psychiatry. I do."

Van Sant examines the roots of Scientology’s opposition to psychiatry and
the tragic death of a caring mother who desperately wanted to help her
beloved son.

©MMVI, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.



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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n2124568.shtml

More info:

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/JeremyPerkins/CoverUp/

"Jan Drew" wrote:

There is no such thing.

What are you talking about? Are you worried about the word "victim"?
The woman refused to allow her schizophrenic son to have treatment. He
killed her because he didn't have treatment to address his illness.
She was a victim.

Oh, I get it - you , in your rigid and concrete thinking, don't
understand the word "$cientology".

When are you going to address the fact that the founder of Scientology
(Happy now? There's the correct word.) said that Jesus was a
pedophile. Do you think that L. Ron Hubbard was right when he said
this?

snip stuff about prescription drugs, which has NOTHING to do with the
anti-psychiatry actions of Scientology
--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

There is no such thing.

http://www.lovt.com/alerts/prescription/

I will help you *see*...

***** Experts estimate that two-thirds of the deaths and injuries
caused by prescription drugs


*****could be prevented.******


****** Adverse drug reactions in hospital patients alone account for



an estimated 106,000 deaths and 2.2 million injuries each year,
according to a study published in the Journal of the American Medical
Association. This study did not even include deaths and injuries caused
by errors.*****

****** Another study at the Harvard School of Public Health found
that 6.5 percent of the patients at two Boston teaching hospitals had
been injured by their medications. One-third of these injuries were the
result of a mistake.******


These numbers alone tell us the number of people


*****unnecessarily***** killed and injured by prescription drugs has
reached


****epidemic proportions.******



These numbers vastly eclipse the number of people killed or


seriouslyinjured in car accidents each year. These numbers also raise
some alarming questions:

*****Why is this happening? Who is responsible? Why
aren't those responsible doing more to stop it? What can we do about
it?******


More Drugs than Time


One reason so many people are being needlessly hurt and killed by
prescription drugs is because, as a society, we are using


******so many drugs.*****


******The National Association of Chain Drug Stores reported that in
1992, 2.03 billion prescriptions were dispensed in retail pharmacies.
By 1998, the figure was 2.78 billion. By the year 2005, it is expected
to be 4 billion. That means America?s retail pharmacies alone are now
processing well over 90 prescriptions per second, 24 hours a day, every
day of the year. By 2005 they will have to dispense over 126
prescriptions per second.*****


****** If retail pharmacists can hold the injury or death due to error
rate to one-tenth of one percent, one in every thousand prescriptions,
there will be over 4 million deaths or injuries from pharmacy errors.
The industry itself estimates that errors occur about one-half of
one-percent of the time. This would translate into 8 million errors
annually by the year 2005.****


****** These numbers do not take into account any of the prescription
drugs given to patients in hospitals, or in the doctor?s office. All
together, the number of prescriptions being filled far exceeds the
amount of time necessary to safely administer the drugs.******


It may be impossible for the health care community to eliminate all
deaths and injuries caused by prescription drugs.


However, given the


***** enormous scope****


of this problem,


*****something must be done.*****


*****We cannot tolerate


hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths every year. At some point


we must conclude that the cure is worse than the disease.********

************* Bad System****************


******Responsibility for this problem lies with the overall health
caredelivery system.****


*******At every step there is more that can be done, and must
be done, to improve the system.*****


Pharmacies are under increasing pressure to fill more prescriptions in
less time. Is this because Americans need the drugs? Partly. Is it
because pharmacies must reduce
prices and increase sales to stay competitive? Partly. Is it because
the pharmaceutical industry is under testing and over marketing drugs
to create markets for them to drive their profits ever higher? Partly.
Is it because doctors are overwhelmed, and failing to read the
information they must keep up with in order to adequately care for
their patients? Partly.


*****Whatever the reasons, the results have been
predictable: more errors, more needless injuries, more needless
deaths.******


The Pharmacies


Pharmacies have tried to cope with the situation in a number of ways.


Some have installed a computer system that warns of common


prescription errors, such as overdoses or potentially harmful drug
interactions.
Others have turned to using pharmacy "techs", to help the pharmacist.

However, both of these solutions have been


*****grossly inadequate.******


*******The problem is much deeper than either of these solutions can
solve.*******


The computer system


****has not solved the problem.*****


The Institute for Safe


Medication Practices recently tested the computer system in use by


many pharmacies. Their study asked 307 hospital pharmacies to fill 10
different drug orders that had killed patients in 1998. Some contained
an overdose. Others called for two drugs that were deadly in
combination. Only four of the 307 pharmacies detected all 10 unsafe
orders; a success rate of less than 2 percent,

*******far from tolerable.*******


Hiring unskilled "technical assistants" has also failed to help, and
in many cases is responsible for causing more errors in dispensing
drugs.


The problem of hiring "techs" to assist pharmacists has recently come


under heavy scrutiny. News sources have revealed that many of these
"techs" are nothing more than high school students willing to work for
minimum wage, who have very little or no training. In some cases these
people have been expected to completely process entire drug
prescriptions,

*****even though this is illegal and extremely dangerous.******


The Doctors



One of the overwhelming problems that only gets compounded by the


current systems is the lack of standardization by doctors in the way
they order prescriptions. For example, the vast majority of
prescriptions are still hand written by the doctor. In a world where
drug names can be frightfully confusing, it is ridiculous that
pharmacists must decipher handwritten scribbles when their
misinterpretation could mean a death sentence for some innocent
consumer. For instance, the arthritis drug "Celebrex" is frequently
mistaken for the anti-seizure medication "Cerebyx", and the
anti-depressant "Celexia."

While there are available methods for physicians to use automated
programs for writing prescriptions,


*******few physicians use them even when they are readily
available.*****


**** While the ultimate responsibility for making sure that the drug
dispensed is the same as the drug the doctor intended to prescribe lies
primarily with the pharmacist, the doctor
bears some of the responsibility to communicate clearly.****



Also, doctors tend to rely far too heavily on drug salespeople.


****Instead of reading and understanding the available literature on a
drug, doctors frequently prescribe medicine based only on their
conversations*****

with the drug manufacturer?s detail person. Doctors many times


****fail to do their own research to understand the drugs*****


they prescribe, the potential side effects, or the consequences of one
drug being taken with another.


*******The inevitable result is more needless suffering by the
patients the doctors set out to help.********


Drug Manufacturers Share the Blame


Drug manufacturers share the blame for this state of affairs. The
manufacturers have a duty to make sure the drugs they put on the
market


*******are safe******


, and that the drugs effectively do what the manufacturer says
they will do.


*****The manufacturer must also adequately warn of known side
effects and adverse drug interactions. In recent years the
pharmaceutical companies have been bringing drugs to the market


****with ever less testing*****


*****with ever less assurance that the drugs are safe.*****





And, most importantly, even with knowledge of dangerous side effects,
some drug manufacturers are choosing to

***************lie to the FDA************,


***************lie to doctors,***************


******** and lie to the public*******


********** in order to reap ever increasing profits.***********


The Fen-Phen fiasco well illustrates the


*****greed andirresponsibility*****


of
the drug manufacturing industry. In that case, American Home Products
(AHP), the maker of the dangerous drug Fenfluramine [the "Fen" part of


Fen-Phen], had more reports of heart valve problems by 1995 than it


did
of hair loss.

However, AHP chose to warn of hair loss, but


*****did not even report the findings of heart valve damage to the
FDA.*******


This was because
AHP knew that a warning of hair loss would probably not affect sales
dramatically.


However, if AHP were required to warn physicians and the public about
the potential for serious heart valve damage, such a
warning


*****would drastically hurt sales.*****


Therefore, AHP consciously
elected to


*****withhold vital information that would have saved lives.*****


Thousands of people now have confirmed, serious heart valve problems
because of AHP?s


************* dishonesty.****************


Increasing numbers of drugs have had to be recalled because of their
serious, often deadly side effects. The FDA is simply not big enough to
keep track of all of the new drug applications sent in by drug
manufacturers.


******The economic and political pressure on the FDA to



approve new drugs is immense.*****


Buildings full of well paid

**************lobbyists***************


for the drug industry line the streets of Washington D.C., all of
them with


***** one goal: increase profits, decrease liability.********


The result is shoddy drugs with inadequate warnings of side effects.


*******This, in turn, leads to more needless death and
injury.*******************


Blame the Patient


One of the reasons this problem has not gotten more publicity is that
there is a tendency among


*****manufacturers, doctors, hospitals and pharmacies to blame the
patient***********


This is both a natural knee-jerk
response, and a


*****calculated effort to avoid liability.***********


*****It?s not our



fault, it?s the patient?s.******


(One can see the reason ofr the NEEDLESS mistakes and deaths)

(One can also see the total lack of character and morals by Mark
Probert with his usual despicable tactics.


Jan


They argue that the patient should have


reviewed the prescription better. Or the patient should have noticed the
pills were a different color than usual. Or the patient should
have

told them more information. Or, the patient was sick anyway,
otherwise
they wouldn't have needed medicine. Or, simply, "Mistakes will
happen,
if we had to pay for all of them, we couldn't stay in business, so go
away."


These forms of "blame the patient" ignore the fact that it is the
manufacturer?s duty to make the drug safe and to warn of known side
effects; it is the doctor?s duty to read and understand the
literature
relevant to the drugs his/her patient takes; and it is the pharmacist?s
duty and the doctor?s duty to get the prescription right, and to take
reasonable steps to know any relevant patient information that might
affect the prescription or dose.


Many states require the pharmacy to keep a patient profile, listing known
drug allergies, other medications, and other relevant information.
Pharmacists have an independent duty to make sure the drugs they dispense
are the drugs the doctor prescribed, and that
they
are not dangerous because of some other drug the patient is taking,
or
because of the dose prescribed by the doctor.


The patient is most often the least educated, least informed link in the
health care chain. It is unconscionable to expect the patient to bear the
weight of all of the bad decisions made throughout the
health
care system. Patients should have a right to expect the other health care
professionals to do a reasonable job. We must all trust health care
professionals with our lives from time to time. However, increasingly,
this trust is hard to justify.


Accountability


Holding doctors, hospitals, pharmacies, and drug companies
accountable
for the injuries and deaths they cause is part of the solution. Liability
alone will not fix the problem. However, if it starts
costing


the health care industry more money to "do it wrong than to do it right,"
maybe the industry itself will start working harder to solve these
problems. As long as the industry continues to reap huge
profits
despite the horrendous number of mistakes, the problem will continue.


No civilized society should tolerate the carnage we are currently
experiencing because of prescription drug mistakes. The number of
those


killed and injured annually is probably four to eight times the
number
of people hurt or killed in traffic accidents. This means we are all four
to eight times more likely to be hurt or killed by a misfilled
prescription drug than in a car accident. And this is based on
numbers
put out by the medical community and the pharmaceutical industry itself.
The real numbers may even be higher.


The first step is to report all adverse drug events to the FDA. The next
step is for those seriously injured, and the families of those killed by
prescription drug errors to file claims against those responsible. This
kind of pressure is what finally forced car manufacturers to install
seatbelts, the makers of baby beds to put
the
bars closer together so babies don't strangle, and the maker of at least
one brand of guns to install child safety locks. Our system of justice is
not perfect. Some say it is the worst justice system in
the
world - until you compare it to the rest.


*******Accountability is at the root of our justice system. Why? Because
while freedom entails responsibility - accountability is our only civil
means


of coercing responsible, just behavior**********
==

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11355786/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9818616/


A routine epidural turns deadly


Free video.


Excerpt:


Infections contracted in hospitals are the fourth largest killer in the
United States, causing as many deaths as AIDS, breast cancer and auto
accidents combined.


- One out of every 20 hospital patients gets an infection. That's 2 million
Americans a year, and an estimated 103,000 of them die.


- The single most important way to reduce hospital infection, according to
the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, is for doctors and
other health care workers to clean their hands in between treating patients.


Source: Journal of Emerging Infectious Diseases, Committee to Reduce
Infection Deaths, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

You were saying.........................

Jan Drew wrote:

snip Jan's incoherent nonsense

Jan would rather a psychotic kill his own mother than to agree with
Mark P. and Peter B. that there is a role for antipsychotic drugs in
this world, and that the science fiction cult that L. Ron Hubbard
founded is a bunch of wrong-thinking creeps.

Now, it behooves us all to ignore the fact that Jan herself takes a
neurotropic (look it up, Jan) agent on a daily basis...that's her
business and no one should inject that bit of information into this
discussion...

Mark, MD

"Jan Drew" wrote in message
. net...

"Mark Probert" wrote in message
news:C7v0h.33$B44.13@trndny07...
Scientology - A Question of Faith
Did A Mother's Faith Contribute To Her Murder?


Jeremy Perkins, speaking to police after he murdered his mother.


(CBS) Why would a 28-year-old man, described as sweet, kind and gentle,
take a knife to his mother one morning in 2003 and stab her over 70 times?

Jeremy Perkins, who had been diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic, came
to believe that his mother, Elli, was evil and out to get him. Experts say
the brutal murder might never have occurred, had he received proper
treatment to control his psychotic delusions. But Jeremy’s parents were
devout Scientologists and their religion strongly opposes psychiatric
treatment.

Did Elli Perkins' faith contribute to her death? 48 Hours correspondent
Peter Van Sant explores the issue this Saturday, Oct. 28, at 10 p.m.
ET/PT.

"I tried to slit my wrists...but I wouldn't die, so I decided to do my mom
instead," Jeremy Perkins told police after the murder.

Jeremy’s chilling words describe his actions on March 13, 2003, while he
was in an active psychotic state.

The Perkins family cared deeply for their son and sought treatment within
the principles of their faith. A lawyer for Jeremy's father told 48 Hours
that Jeremy was seen by both physicians and mental health practitioners,
including a psychiatrist. But court records unsealed by 48 Hours indicate
that Jeremy’s treatment was limited to mostly vitamins and other holistic
healing methods. The family filled prescriptions for an anti-anxiety drug
and a sleeping aid. Medical experts and a doctor who treated Jeremy after
the murder dismiss these methods as ineffective for an individual with
paranoid schizophrenia.

Today the Church of Scientology claims more than 10 million members
worldwide. Its religious opposition to psychiatry is well-known. In June
of 2005, the issue was brought to national attention when actor Tom Cruise
took a very public stance on NBC’s "Today" show. "I know that psychiatry
is a pseudo-science," he told Matt Lauer. "You don’t know the history of
psychiatry. I do."

Van Sant examines the roots of Scientology’s opposition to psychiatry and
the tragic death of a caring mother who desperately wanted to help her
beloved son.

©MMVI, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.

Our culture has advanced????

To begin with scientology is strictly a mesmerizing bunch of nonsense.

Anti psychotic drugs DO work and work wonders.

Our culture is Too humane to lock up people with that disorder. We would
rather see some innocent person slaughtered than confine a dangerous person.
We actually believe that the mentally "different" people will follow our
rules. We now only confine AFTER there has been a slaughter.
Typical pseudo doctor "Take this (give this) pill and come back every week".
Can anyone here actually believe that one of these pseudo doctors would
analyze a person and call the authorities to have that person locked up? Of
course it all starts with a pseudo "analysis".

Scientology = Psychiatry = Scientology = Cult = Psychiatry

Mark Probert wrote:
Scientology - A Question of Faith
Did A Mother's Faith Contribute To Her Murder?


Jeremy Perkins, speaking to police after he murdered his mother.


(CBS) Why would a 28-year-old man, described as sweet, kind and gentle,
take a knife to his mother one morning in 2003 and stab her over 70 times?

Jeremy Perkins, who had been diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic, came
to believe that his mother, Elli, was evil and out to get him. Experts
say the brutal murder might never have occurred, had he received proper
treatment to control his psychotic delusions. But Jeremy’s parents were
devout Scientologists and their religion strongly opposes psychiatric
treatment.

Did Elli Perkins' faith contribute to her death? 48 Hours correspondent
Peter Van Sant explores the issue this Saturday, Oct. 28, at 10 p.m. ET/PT.

"I tried to slit my wrists...but I wouldn't die, so I decided to do my
mom instead," Jeremy Perkins told police after the murder.

Jeremy’s chilling words describe his actions on March 13, 2003, while he
was in an active psychotic state.

The Perkins family cared deeply for their son and sought treatment
within the principles of their faith. A lawyer for Jeremy's father told
48 Hours that Jeremy was seen by both physicians and mental health
practitioners, including a psychiatrist. But court records unsealed by
48 Hours indicate that Jeremy’s treatment was limited to mostly vitamins
and other holistic healing methods. The family filled prescriptions for
an anti-anxiety drug and a sleeping aid. Medical experts and a doctor
who treated Jeremy after the murder dismiss these methods as ineffective
for an individual with paranoid schizophrenia.

Today the Church of Scientology claims more than 10 million members
worldwide. Its religious opposition to psychiatry is well-known. In June
of 2005, the issue was brought to national attention when actor Tom
Cruise took a very public stance on NBC’s "Today" show. "I know that
psychiatry is a pseudo-science," he told Matt Lauer. "You don’t know the
history of psychiatry. I do."

Van Sant examines the roots of Scientology’s opposition to psychiatry
and the tragic death of a caring mother who desperately wanted to help
her beloved son.

©MMVI, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.

I was home and watched this program. The interview with the son is
available online.

If anyone still believes that Scientology/CCHR are benign organizations,
then they support murderers.

Don't forget the 650 Big Pharm lobbyists in DC, paid near 1/2 $mil/yr
each--we only have 550 legislators--who also all own stock in Big Pharm.
--
Mr. P.V.'d (formerly Droll Troll), Yonkers, NY
Ever-preparing for The Grand Insertion
Party Nominee, IPPVM
Independent Party of the Proctologically Violated®© (M)asses
"That's proly not a hemorrhoid you're feeling.... "
entropic3.14decay at optonline2.718 dot net; remove pi and e to reply--ie,
all d'numbuhs
"Jan Drew" wrote in message
. com...
There is no such thing.

http://www.lovt.com/alerts/prescription/

I will help you *see*...

***** Experts estimate that two-thirds of the deaths and injuries
caused by prescription drugs


*****could be prevented.******


****** Adverse drug reactions in hospital patients alone account for



an estimated 106,000 deaths and 2.2 million injuries each year,
according to a study published in the Journal of the American Medical
Association. This study did not even include deaths and injuries caused
by errors.*****

****** Another study at the Harvard School of Public Health found
that 6.5 percent of the patients at two Boston teaching hospitals had
been injured by their medications. One-third of these injuries were the
result of a mistake.******


These numbers alone tell us the number of people


*****unnecessarily***** killed and injured by prescription drugs has
reached


****epidemic proportions.******



These numbers vastly eclipse the number of people killed or


seriouslyinjured in car accidents each year. These numbers also raise
some alarming questions:

*****Why is this happening? Who is responsible? Why
aren't those responsible doing more to stop it? What can we do about
it?******


More Drugs than Time


One reason so many people are being needlessly hurt and killed by
prescription drugs is because, as a society, we are using


******so many drugs.*****


******The National Association of Chain Drug Stores reported that in
1992, 2.03 billion prescriptions were dispensed in retail pharmacies.
By 1998, the figure was 2.78 billion. By the year 2005, it is expected
to be 4 billion. That means America?s retail pharmacies alone are now
processing well over 90 prescriptions per second, 24 hours a day, every
day of the year. By 2005 they will have to dispense over 126
prescriptions per second.*****


****** If retail pharmacists can hold the injury or death due to error
rate to one-tenth of one percent, one in every thousand prescriptions,
there will be over 4 million deaths or injuries from pharmacy errors.
The industry itself estimates that errors occur about one-half of
one-percent of the time. This would translate into 8 million errors
annually by the year 2005.****


****** These numbers do not take into account any of the prescription
drugs given to patients in hospitals, or in the doctor?s office. All
together, the number of prescriptions being filled far exceeds the
amount of time necessary to safely administer the drugs.******


It may be impossible for the health care community to eliminate all
deaths and injuries caused by prescription drugs.


However, given the


***** enormous scope****


of this problem,


*****something must be done.*****


*****We cannot tolerate


hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths every year. At some point


we must conclude that the cure is worse than the disease.********

************* Bad System****************


******Responsibility for this problem lies with the overall health
caredelivery system.****


*******At every step there is more that can be done, and must
be done, to improve the system.*****


Pharmacies are under increasing pressure to fill more prescriptions in
less time. Is this because Americans need the drugs? Partly. Is it
because pharmacies must reduce
prices and increase sales to stay competitive? Partly. Is it because
the pharmaceutical industry is under testing and over marketing drugs
to create markets for them to drive their profits ever higher? Partly.
Is it because doctors are overwhelmed, and failing to read the
information they must keep up with in order to adequately care for
their patients? Partly.


*****Whatever the reasons, the results have been
predictable: more errors, more needless injuries, more needless
deaths.******


The Pharmacies


Pharmacies have tried to cope with the situation in a number of ways.


Some have installed a computer system that warns of common


prescription errors, such as overdoses or potentially harmful drug
interactions.
Others have turned to using pharmacy "techs", to help the pharmacist.

However, both of these solutions have been


*****grossly inadequate.******


*******The problem is much deeper than either of these solutions can
solve.*******


The computer system


****has not solved the problem.*****


The Institute for Safe


Medication Practices recently tested the computer system in use by


many pharmacies. Their study asked 307 hospital pharmacies to fill 10
different drug orders that had killed patients in 1998. Some contained
an overdose. Others called for two drugs that were deadly in
combination. Only four of the 307 pharmacies detected all 10 unsafe
orders; a success rate of less than 2 percent,

*******far from tolerable.*******


Hiring unskilled "technical assistants" has also failed to help, and
in many cases is responsible for causing more errors in dispensing
drugs.


The problem of hiring "techs" to assist pharmacists has recently come


under heavy scrutiny. News sources have revealed that many of these
"techs" are nothing more than high school students willing to work for
minimum wage, who have very little or no training. In some cases these
people have been expected to completely process entire drug
prescriptions,

*****even though this is illegal and extremely dangerous.******


The Doctors



One of the overwhelming problems that only gets compounded by the


current systems is the lack of standardization by doctors in the way
they order prescriptions. For example, the vast majority of
prescriptions are still hand written by the doctor. In a world where
drug names can be frightfully confusing, it is ridiculous that
pharmacists must decipher handwritten scribbles when their
misinterpretation could mean a death sentence for some innocent
consumer. For instance, the arthritis drug "Celebrex" is frequently
mistaken for the anti-seizure medication "Cerebyx", and the
anti-depressant "Celexia."

While there are available methods for physicians to use automated
programs for writing prescriptions,


*******few physicians use them even when they are readily
available.*****


**** While the ultimate responsibility for making sure that the drug
dispensed is the same as the drug the doctor intended to prescribe lies
primarily with the pharmacist, the doctor
bears some of the responsibility to communicate clearly.****



Also, doctors tend to rely far too heavily on drug salespeople.


****Instead of reading and understanding the available literature on a
drug, doctors frequently prescribe medicine based only on their
conversations*****

with the drug manufacturer?s detail person. Doctors many times


****fail to do their own research to understand the drugs*****


they prescribe, the potential side effects, or the consequences of one
drug being taken with another.


*******The inevitable result is more needless suffering by the
patients the doctors set out to help.********


Drug Manufacturers Share the Blame


Drug manufacturers share the blame for this state of affairs. The
manufacturers have a duty to make sure the drugs they put on the
market


*******are safe******


, and that the drugs effectively do what the manufacturer says
they will do.


*****The manufacturer must also adequately warn of known side
effects and adverse drug interactions. In recent years the
pharmaceutical companies have been bringing drugs to the market


****with ever less testing*****


*****with ever less assurance that the drugs are safe.*****





And, most importantly, even with knowledge of dangerous side effects,
some drug manufacturers are choosing to

***************lie to the FDA************,


***************lie to doctors,***************


******** and lie to the public*******


********** in order to reap ever increasing profits.***********


The Fen-Phen fiasco well illustrates the


*****greed andirresponsibility*****


of
the drug manufacturing industry. In that case, American Home Products
(AHP), the maker of the dangerous drug Fenfluramine [the "Fen" part of


Fen-Phen], had more reports of heart valve problems by 1995 than it


did
of hair loss.

However, AHP chose to warn of hair loss, but


*****did not even report the findings of heart valve damage to the
FDA.*******


This was because
AHP knew that a warning of hair loss would probably not affect sales
dramatically.


However, if AHP were required to warn physicians and the public about
the potential for serious heart valve damage, such a
warning


*****would drastically hurt sales.*****


Therefore, AHP consciously
elected to


*****withhold vital information that would have saved lives.*****


Thousands of people now have confirmed, serious heart valve problems
because of AHP?s


************* dishonesty.****************


Increasing numbers of drugs have had to be recalled because of their
serious, often deadly side effects. The FDA is simply not big enough to
keep track of all of the new drug applications sent in by drug
manufacturers.


******The economic and political pressure on the FDA to



approve new drugs is immense.*****


Buildings full of well paid

**************lobbyists***************


for the drug industry line the streets of Washington D.C., all of
them with


***** one goal: increase profits, decrease liability.********


The result is shoddy drugs with inadequate warnings of side effects.


*******This, in turn, leads to more needless death and
injury.*******************


Blame the Patient


One of the reasons this problem has not gotten more publicity is that
there is a tendency among


*****manufacturers, doctors, hospitals and pharmacies to blame the
patient***********


This is both a natural knee-jerk
response, and a


*****calculated effort to avoid liability.***********


*****It?s not our



fault, it?s the patient?s.******


(One can see the reason ofr the NEEDLESS mistakes and deaths)

(One can also see the total lack of character and morals by Mark
Probert with his usual despicable tactics.


Jan


They argue that the patient should have


reviewed the prescription better. Or the patient should have noticed the
pills were a different color than usual. Or the patient should
have

told them more information. Or, the patient was sick anyway,
otherwise
they wouldn't have needed medicine. Or, simply, "Mistakes will
happen,
if we had to pay for all of them, we couldn't stay in business, so go
away."


These forms of "blame the patient" ignore the fact that it is the
manufacturer?s duty to make the drug safe and to warn of known side
effects; it is the doctor?s duty to read and understand the
literature
relevant to the drugs his/her patient takes; and it is the pharmacist?s
duty and the doctor?s duty to get the prescription right, and to take
reasonable steps to know any relevant patient information that might
affect the prescription or dose.


Many states require the pharmacy to keep a patient profile, listing known
drug allergies, other medications, and other relevant information.
Pharmacists have an independent duty to make sure the drugs they dispense
are the drugs the doctor prescribed, and that
they
are not dangerous because of some other drug the patient is taking,
or
because of the dose prescribed by the doctor.


The patient is most often the least educated, least informed link in the
health care chain. It is unconscionable to expect the patient to bear the
weight of all of the bad decisions made throughout the
health
care system. Patients should have a right to expect the other health care
professionals to do a reasonable job. We must all trust health care
professionals with our lives from time to time. However, increasingly,
this trust is hard to justify.


Accountability


Holding doctors, hospitals, pharmacies, and drug companies
accountable
for the injuries and deaths they cause is part of the solution. Liability
alone will not fix the problem. However, if it starts
costing


the health care industry more money to "do it wrong than to do it right,"
maybe the industry itself will start working harder to solve these
problems. As long as the industry continues to reap huge
profits
despite the horrendous number of mistakes, the problem will continue.


No civilized society should tolerate the carnage we are currently
experiencing because of prescription drug mistakes. The number of
those


killed and injured annually is probably four to eight times the
number
of people hurt or killed in traffic accidents. This means we are all four
to eight times more likely to be hurt or killed by a misfilled
prescription drug than in a car accident. And this is based on
numbers
put out by the medical community and the pharmaceutical industry itself.
The real numbers may even be higher.


The first step is to report all adverse drug events to the FDA. The next
step is for those seriously injured, and the families of those killed by
prescription drug errors to file claims against those responsible. This
kind of pressure is what finally forced car manufacturers to install
seatbelts, the makers of baby beds to put
the
bars closer together so babies don't strangle, and the maker of at least
one brand of guns to install child safety locks. Our system of justice is
not perfect. Some say it is the worst justice system in
the
world - until you compare it to the rest.


*******Accountability is at the root of our justice system. Why? Because
while freedom entails responsibility - accountability is our only civil
means


of coercing responsible, just behavior**********
==

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11355786/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9818616/


A routine epidural turns deadly


Free video.


Excerpt:


Infections contracted in hospitals are the fourth largest killer in the
United States, causing as many deaths as AIDS, breast cancer and auto
accidents combined.


- One out of every 20 hospital patients gets an infection. That's 2
million
Americans a year, and an estimated 103,000 of them die.


- The single most important way to reduce hospital infection, according to
the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, is for doctors and
other health care workers to clean their hands in between treating
patients.


Source: Journal of Emerging Infectious Diseases, Committee to Reduce
Infection Deaths, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

You were saying.........................


"Mark Probert" wrote in message
news:j9v0h.34$B44.7@trndny07...
Mark Probert wrote:
Scientology - A Question of Faith
Did A Mother's Faith Contribute To Her Murder?


Jeremy Perkins, speaking to police after he murdered his mother.


(CBS) Why would a 28-year-old man, described as sweet, kind and gentle,
take a knife to his mother one morning in 2003 and stab her over 70
times?

Jeremy Perkins, who had been diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic, came
to believe that his mother, Elli, was evil and out to get him. Experts
say the brutal murder might never have occurred, had he received proper
treatment to control his psychotic delusions. But Jeremy's parents were
devout Scientologists and their religion strongly opposes psychiatric
treatment.

Did Elli Perkins' faith contribute to her death? 48 Hours correspondent
Peter Van Sant explores the issue this Saturday, Oct. 28, at 10 p.m.
ET/PT.

"I tried to slit my wrists...but I wouldn't die, so I decided to do my
mom instead," Jeremy Perkins told police after the murder.

Jeremy's chilling words describe his actions on March 13, 2003, while he
was in an active psychotic state.

The Perkins family cared deeply for their son and sought treatment
within the principles of their faith. A lawyer for Jeremy's father told
48 Hours that Jeremy was seen by both physicians and mental health
practitioners, including a psychiatrist. But court records unsealed by
48 Hours indicate that Jeremy's treatment was limited to mostly vitamins
and other holistic healing methods. The family filled prescriptions for
an anti-anxiety drug and a sleeping aid. Medical experts and a doctor
who treated Jeremy after the murder dismiss these methods as ineffective
for an individual with paranoid schizophrenia.

Today the Church of Scientology claims more than 10 million members
worldwide. Its religious opposition to psychiatry is well-known. In June
of 2005, the issue was brought to national attention when actor Tom
Cruise took a very public stance on NBC's "Today" show. "I know that
psychiatry is a pseudo-science," he told Matt Lauer. "You don't know the
history of psychiatry. I do."

Van Sant examines the roots of Scientology's opposition to psychiatry
and the tragic death of a caring mother who desperately wanted to help
her beloved son.

©MMVI, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Oops, forgot a URL

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n2124568.shtml

More info:

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/JeremyPerkins/CoverUp/