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Well, is this child abuse? I would say so!
In rec.pets.herp c1c0 wrote:
was waiting in the cave where lived several big anacondas. A big one entered and attacked and constricted him. If it wasn't for the other members of the team he would've been death now. One day there'll be noone to save him from himself. And he might very well have made sure he had people around the edges (maybe not right in camera view) too to stop the croc if ti had tried anything. Alice -- The root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren't worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes 'em testy. ...Bev |\ _,,,---,,_ Tigress /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/tigress |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) Cat by Felix Lee. |
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Well, is this child abuse? I would say so!
While I wouldn't classify this as child abuse, it's most definitely child
endangerment. He may have thought he had the croc under "complete control" but bringing a 1 month old baby into that kind of an environment is completely inappropriate. It was just a pathetic publicity stunt, and it could've cost him his son's life if things hadn't gone just so. I have never thought Steve Irwin was the brightest bulb in the pack, and this just proves it. Typical poor judgement on the part of the parent. But not child abuse. And leave it to the American media to spin it up out of control as soon as there's a BAYYYBEEE involved. Pathetic. There are many "******s" in this situation... |
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Well, is this child abuse? I would say so!
"Liz" wrote in message . au...
"Rubystars" wrote in message y.com... "George Stillwell" wrote in message snip I think Steve knows what he's doing. It's not like he was dangling the baby over the crocodile. I'm also not really clear on the details.. was Steve up on one of those platforms, or really close to the croc? -Rubystars As well, Steve kind of "dances" the baby along the ground in the enclosure near the pool but you can't see where the animal is. thats a crock, pun intended. you can clearly see the animal in the foreground of the shot as he walks the baby up to the pool. I just think it was a really stupid thing to do in public. i agree with that though. john |
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Well, is this child abuse? I would say so!
"Liz" wrote in message u... "Rubystars" wrote in message y.com... "George Stillwell" wrote in message snip I think Steve knows what he's doing. It's not like he was dangling the baby over the crocodile. I'm also not really clear on the details.. was Steve up on one of those platforms, or really close to the croc? -Rubystars The footage shows him holding Bob sort of tucked under one arm (no head support at all) and with meat held out for the croc in the other. As the croc snaps at the food his jaws wouldn't be more than 2 feet from the baby. As well, Steve kind of "dances" the baby along the ground in the enclosure near the pool but you can't see where the animal is. I just think it was a really stupid thing to do in public. Surely someone might have pointed out to him that people would have an issue with seeing a 1 month old being hauled around in an enclosure with a rather large croc. All the more seeing that one young man was recently killed rather nastily by a wild croc that had his 2 friends treed overnight while it moved around underneath. He seemed very less-than-impressed on TV tonight about the fuss being made. Liz Since I posted last night, I saw the video. I think he made a serious blunder, but it did look like the kid was kept safe (when I watched the video, Murray had just gone back into the water and was a good ways away when Steve was walking his son along the ground). Still, one slip and things could've gone badly. I'm hoping he'll have a little more media savvy now that he's upset people. I'm sure in Steve's mind, he thought people would think it was endearing for his son to be involved in the action with him. -Rubystars |
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Well, is this child abuse? I would say so!
ha scritto nel messaggio ... In rec.pets.herp c1c0 wrote: was waiting in the cave where lived several big anacondas. A big one entered and attacked and constricted him. If it wasn't for the other members of the team he would've been death now. One day there'll be noone to save him from himself. And he might very well have made sure he had people around the edges (maybe not right in camera view) too to stop the croc if ti had tried anything. Alice He'll probably have an accident when there's no cameraman or anybody else, if it's that what he's doing also in his freetime. Anna |
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Well, is this child abuse? I would say so!
"Rubystars" wrote in message y.com... "Liz" wrote in message u... "Rubystars" wrote in message y.com... "George Stillwell" wrote in message snip I think Steve knows what he's doing. It's not like he was dangling the baby over the crocodile. I'm also not really clear on the details.. was Steve up on one of those platforms, or really close to the croc? -Rubystars The footage shows him holding Bob sort of tucked under one arm (no head support at all) and with meat held out for the croc in the other. As the croc snaps at the food his jaws wouldn't be more than 2 feet from the baby. As well, Steve kind of "dances" the baby along the ground in the enclosure near the pool but you can't see where the animal is. I just think it was a really stupid thing to do in public. Surely someone might have pointed out to him that people would have an issue with seeing a 1 month old being hauled around in an enclosure with a rather large croc. All the more seeing that one young man was recently killed rather nastily by a wild croc that had his 2 friends treed overnight while it moved around underneath. He seemed very less-than-impressed on TV tonight about the fuss being made. Liz Since I posted last night, I saw the video. I think he made a serious blunder, but it did look like the kid was kept safe (when I watched the video, Murray had just gone back into the water and was a good ways away when Steve was walking his son along the ground). Still, one slip and things could've gone badly. I'm hoping he'll have a little more media savvy now that he's upset people. I'm sure in Steve's mind, he thought people would think it was endearing for his son to be involved in the action with him. -Rubystars has anyone seen the followup interview with him? i have, wish he was my dad |
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Well, is this child abuse? I would say so!
What did he say?
Anna |
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Well, is this child abuse? I would say so!
In article ,
"c1c0" wrote: ha scritto nel messaggio ... In rec.pets.herp c1c0 wrote: was waiting in the cave where lived several big anacondas. A big one entered and attacked and constricted him. If it wasn't for the other members of the team he would've been death now. One day there'll be noone to save him from himself. And he might very well have made sure he had people around the edges (maybe not right in camera view) too to stop the croc if ti had tried anything. Alice He'll probably have an accident when there's no cameraman or anybody else, if it's that what he's doing also in his freetime. Anna not a great idea but the news frenzy on this is just one more example of how the media caters to a break and circuses moronic public given the really important issues in the US alone e.g. our bank records and other financial records can now be perused by the police without a warrant and our being notified [signed by Bush the day Saddam was captured - calculatively to avoid any press] e.g. having exported most manufacturing jobs, white collar jobs are now being exported at a great rate assuring that our children will live in a third world country e.g. social security is being destroyed by a burgeoning debt e.g. 46 million Americans don't have medical insurance e.g. global climate changes continue unabated etc etc etc but what we really want are silly stories about Lacy Peterson [who cares?] and alligator boy, and Kobe and Michael -- [who cares?] these tawdry little nickel dime stories are nothing but porn for the masses -- and have no significance for our lives or our future |
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Well, is this child abuse? I would say so!
"JULIAN HALES" wrote in message snip has anyone seen the followup interview with him? i have, wish he was my dad Where did you see it? -Rubystars |
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Well, is this child abuse? I would say so!
In rec.pets.herp c1c0 wrote:
He'll probably have an accident when there's no cameraman or anybody else, if it's that what he's doing also in his freetime. And how do you know he would do that without other people there to back him up? It's a bit presumptious to assume he would. Alice -- The root cause of problems is simple overpopulation. People just aren't worth very much any more, and they know it. Makes 'em testy. ...Bev |\ _,,,---,,_ Tigress /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ http://havoc.gtf.gatech.edu/tigress |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) Cat by Felix Lee. |
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