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" krp" wrote in message
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For those facing false allegations you can join the Falseacc listserv by
using this link

http://www.a-team.org/false_accusation_list.html

Before you go to that link, read the information on the link I provide
below. History has shown that a great deal of the information is accurate,
but I cant vouch for all of it.

After all, before you join this list server you might want to know just who
is running it.

Ron

http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com/

It's still amusing to me to see the system sucks
frantically rushing to try to discredit false accusation resources.

Do you think somebody who is falsely accused
in some part of the system would prefer to get their
information on fighting the system from sources
that the system sucks themselves approve of?

Would the system sucks be so concerned if
the resource was really not effective?

Do you think the best false accusations sources
would be warmly received by the system sucks?

Grin

""Before you go to that link"" ( Trying to pre-empt the dangerous
info!)

Yes, take it from the SYSTEM SUCKS, that information
is truly dangerous for the system!

Ronald VanDyne is a former cop and a Nebraska Foster Parent.


On May 24, 8:14 pm, "Ron" wrote:
" krp" wrote in message

For those facing false allegations you can join the Falseacc listserv by
using this link

http://www.a-team.org/false_accusation_list.html

Before you go to that link, read the information on the link I provide
below. History has shown that a great deal of the information is accurate,
but I cant vouch for all of it.

After all, before you join this list server you might want to know just who
is running it.

Ron
snip!

Hey Ron!, Do you know why David Moore isn't posting? giggle

"Greegor" wrote in message
ups.com...
It's still amusing to me to see the system sucks
frantically rushing to try to discredit false accusation resources.

Do you think somebody who is falsely accused
in some part of the system would prefer to get their
information on fighting the system from sources
that the system sucks themselves approve of?

Would the system sucks be so concerned if
the resource was really not effective?

Do you think the best false accusations sources
would be warmly received by the system sucks?

Grin

""Before you go to that link"" ( Trying to pre-empt the dangerous
info!)

Yes, take it from the SYSTEM SUCKS, that information
is truly dangerous for the system!

Ronald VanDyne is a former cop and a Nebraska Foster Parent.


On May 24, 8:14 pm, "Ron" wrote:
" krp" wrote in message

For those facing false allegations you can join the Falseacc listserv
by
using this link

http://www.a-team.org/false_accusation_list.html

Before you go to that link, read the information on the link I provide
below. History has shown that a great deal of the information is
accurate,
but I cant vouch for all of it.

After all, before you join this list server you might want to know just
who
is running it.


Yes Ron and they may wish to know just WHO THE HELL YOU ARE TOO!

"Greegor" wrote in message
ups.com...
It's still amusing to me to see the system sucks
frantically rushing to try to discredit false accusation resources.

Ya think kenny's a "resource" gregg? Not the word I'd use.

Here is one I would use: Parasite

Ron

Do you think somebody who is falsely accused
in some part of the system would prefer to get their
information on fighting the system from sources
that the system sucks themselves approve of?

Would the system sucks be so concerned if
the resource was really not effective?

Do you think the best false accusations sources
would be warmly received by the system sucks?

Grin

""Before you go to that link"" ( Trying to pre-empt the dangerous
info!)

Yes, take it from the SYSTEM SUCKS, that information
is truly dangerous for the system!

Ronald VanDyne is a former cop and a Nebraska Foster Parent.


On May 24, 8:14 pm, "Ron" wrote:
" krp" wrote in message

For those facing false allegations you can join the Falseacc listserv
by
using this link

http://www.a-team.org/false_accusation_list.html

Before you go to that link, read the information on the link I provide
below. History has shown that a great deal of the information is
accurate,
but I cant vouch for all of it.

After all, before you join this list server you might want to know just
who
is running it.

Ron
snip!

"Ron" wrote in message
...

"Greegor" wrote in message
ups.com...
It's still amusing to me to see the system sucks
frantically rushing to try to discredit false accusation resources.

Ya think kenny's a "resource" gregg? Not the word I'd use.

Here is one I would use: Parasite


A VERY effective parasite that has been kicking false accusers and CPS
ass for over 30 years.

"Greegor" wrote in message
ups.com...
It's still amusing to me to see the system sucks
frantically rushing to try to discredit false accusation resources.

Given kenny's track record gregg, I'd not call him a resource. I think I
got it right the first time. Parasite is far more accurate.

Do you think somebody who is falsely accused
in some part of the system would prefer to get their
information on fighting the system from sources
that the system sucks themselves approve of?

That depends gregg, do they want their kids back, or should they follow your
example and wait more than 6 years?

Would the system sucks be so concerned if
the resource was really not effective?

My concern gregg is that kenny bilks those who need real resources. This
"A-Team" of his is more than a bit like a balloon. Nice and shiny on the
outside, but once you get to what makes it that way all you find is air.

Do you think the best false accusations sources
would be warmly received by the system sucks?

Sure they would gregg, I am all for the truth and fair play. Kenny does not
qualify as either.

Grin

""Before you go to that link"" ( Trying to pre-empt the dangerous
info!)

Yes, take it from the SYSTEM SUCKS, that information
is truly dangerous for the system!

Ronald VanDyne is a former cop and a Nebraska Foster Parent.

Its not the information gregg. Its the guy presenting it, taking peoples
money for it, and providing nothing in return.

I have never hidden who I am gregg. I am quite proud of who I am and what I
do. After fostering more than 200 kids over the last 15 years or so, of
which more than 95% returned home, I am reasonably sure that I have done
more for families involved with the system than kenny's "A-Team" ever has or
ever will. Or you for that matter gregg.

Ron



On May 24, 8:14 pm, "Ron" wrote:
" krp" wrote in message

For those facing false allegations you can join the Falseacc listserv
by
using this link

http://www.a-team.org/false_accusation_list.html

Before you go to that link, read the information on the link I provide
below. History has shown that a great deal of the information is
accurate,
but I cant vouch for all of it.

After all, before you join this list server you might want to know just
who
is running it.

Ron
snip!

"Ron" wrote in message
...

My concern gregg is that kenny bilks those who need real resources. This
"A-Team" of his is more than a bit like a balloon. Nice and shiny on the
outside, but once you get to what makes it that way all you find is air.

Yeah Ronny - you base that on WHAT? Remember when you attack the
"A-Team" you are attacking a whole group of people, including nationally
recognized lawyers, psychologists, psychiatrists and medical doctors to name
some. Maybe you should read the pages of testimonials from clients, Ron? Or
realize that we get lots of referrals from other organizations. Why? Because
we WIN. And THAT is what bugs the **** out of you.

" krp" wrote in message
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"Ron" wrote in message
...

My concern gregg is that kenny bilks those who need real resources. This
"A-Team" of his is more than a bit like a balloon. Nice and shiny on the
outside, but once you get to what makes it that way all you find is air.

Yeah Ronny - you base that on WHAT? Remember when you attack the
"A-Team" you are attacking a whole group of people, including nationally
recognized lawyers, psychologists, psychiatrists and medical doctors to
name some. Maybe you should read the pages of testimonials from clients,
Ron? Or realize that we get lots of referrals from other organizations.
Why? Because we WIN. And THAT is what bugs the **** out of you.

Lots of claims there kenny, but where's the beef?

As far as I can tell, you and only you are the "A-Team". I have visited
your web site, quite some time back when you first came to Alt-CPS and
brought your pet mr moore with you. Just as I went through mr moore's web
site. I looked at both sides of the story kenny, long before I made any
personal decisions about either of you.

And then you and I began a debate. You took quite a bit of effort and time
during that debate to prove quite a bit of what mr moore had to say about
you on his web site. A great deal of effort, just to prove that someone
else's unflattering remarks about you were accurate. Initially I found that
to be quite confusing, but that changed quickly as you continued to bury
what little positive reputation you may have had at one time in Alt-CPS.

Initially here I gave you the benefit of the doubt kenny. That's
documented, right in the google archives for anyone to look up.
Unfortunately you took little time in showing us that you preferred to dance
to mr moore's tune. You "could" have been a valuable contributor to the
news group had you strayed from what is for you a normal style of posting.
You couldn't do that. I think its a personality flaw, a serious one. Self
Destructive.

Advertising here of any kind for you is forever going to be a problem. You
have zero credibility. An achievement you worked hard to obtain. And of
course there is always going to be someone like mr moore or myself to bring
that lack of credibility to the attention of the readers.

Ron